So "we" are the the christians. The rest of us that have read more than one book are not counted
No. We are all the children of God. Only some, like atheists, believe something else. It doesn't make their beliefs reality.  No. None of us is the children of God. Some just believable it because their holly book says it. No. There is more. Some of it is proof. But why go into that, since one has to first understand the proof that God exists. Then, after he knows that God exists, he can start to look at the proof that shows that the Bible was written at God's direction. Then he can find the proof in the Bible, and to some extent outside it, that shows that people are the children of God. |
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Nope. It doesn't. Its shows that God breaks Newtons 3rd law How does it do that? We don't know anything about "stuff" outside of the universe. So how would anyone know that God breaks Newton's 3rd Law?  He had to have a cause. newtons 3rd law doesn't say anything about "outside of the universe" God is from outside the universe. Newton's 3rd doesn't apply to God. We have no clue from just thinking about God whether or not he had a cause. |
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so you understand my question after all.
I am not really interested enough in smocking to attempt to understand your question, or to answer it. |
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So "we" are the the christians. The rest of us that have read more than one book are not counted
No. We are all the children of God. Only some, like atheists, believe something else. It doesn't make their beliefs reality. |
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Nope. It doesn't. Its shows that God breaks Newtons 3rd law How does it do that? We don't know anything about "stuff" outside of the universe. So how would anyone know that God breaks Newton's 3rd Law? |
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What are you smocking?
Do you mean smoking? Or do you mean mocking? Or might you even mean something else? Smocking is an embroidery technique used to gather fabric so that it can stretch. Before elastic, smocking was commonly used in cuffs, bodices, and necklines in garments where buttons were undesirable. Smocking developed in England and has been practised since the Middle Ages and is unusual among embroidery methods in that it was often worn by laborers. Other major embroidery styles are purely decorative and represented status symbols. Smocking was practical for garments to be both form fitting and flexible, hence its name derives from smock — a farmer's work shirt. Smocking was used most extensively in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. |
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What are you smocking?
Do you mean smoking? Or do you mean mocking? Or might you even mean something else? |
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so can you reply to the question?
We are children of God. Some of us are against Him. Some of us are in favor of Him. |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true? I didn't say I had a book Well, say it again, a different way. Because it sure sounded like you were saying that you had a book. |
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Who is "we"?
"We" is plural. There isn't any "is 'we'." I'm not English. Who are we? Huh? You are coming to understand after all. |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. So you are in that gang that says my book is right , because my book says it's true without researching it I didn't even know you had a book. What does your book say is true? |
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Who is "we"?
"We" is plural. There isn't any "is 'we'." |
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.
Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force .  Well that would be cool . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. Linki 1 says pretty much nothing Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Like I said. You barely can understand things. God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning. And that breaks Newtons 3rd law No it doesn't. Why not? Because Newton's laws only factually apply to things in the universe. If they apply to things outside the universe, we don't know it. |
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But big bang is something that has not been proven to exist. Because of the kind of thing it would be, it probably will never be proven. But, even if it were prove possible, if can never be proven to be the thing that started the universe. According to the definition of "religion" - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - everyone has religion, even atheists. For the atheists, atheism is their religion. But the "Big bang theory" is a scientific theory, scientists are constantly looking for evidence to support or disprove the theory and look for alternatives. You dont hear the religious state "the God theory" or "Jesus theory", you just blindly accept what is written in an old book and never look for validation. Science has created modern society not religion. This is the whole point about big bang theory. There is no theory of God or Jesus, because those who believe, understand God to be real without having formulated a theory about Him. Science formulated theories because they were and are honestly trying to find out what is real. Their theories start to become religion when they start to believe that they are true and real, even though they don't know that they are true and real. Many people believe big bang to be real. Big gang is theory. So, believing it to be real is forming a religion about it. When they do this with many theories, like relativity, evolution, and black hole, they are turning science into a religion for themselves. |
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I read it again. Want me to repeat the answers I gave in another thread?
No. Don't repeat. We all understand that you don't understand much. |
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I read. You are lying
Why didn't you say you don't know how to read. From #6 in the definition: something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.You have this point that you believe in, or you wouldn't be promoting it so extremely much in the forum. It's your religion, by definition. Wake up. And since atheists don't bereave, it doesn't cover atheism What don't atheists believe? If they knew, they would know that God exists. |
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I have always think about what happens after dying, do you even know that you already died or what happens to the memories that lies in you brain would they just vanish after dying or would the memories remain. After death is something a person who died can answer, but after dying there's no chance that a human being can solve this conclusion.
Science hasn't really found a big spot where memories are stored in the brain. There are places spread out through the brain where some small piles of memories are located. But the big spot hasn't been found. Some people think that there is a spiritual body that contains the true memories. This spiritual body is much larger in its realm than the physical body is in this realm. The spiritual body is the real person, riding in the physical body like people ride in machines. A good movie example of this was the movie Avatar.What, a fictional story? Yeah I agree. was a good example. Star Wars war machines are another. Thanks. Robots from Star Wars... Hmm if you think on that stupid trooper robots from Episode One, that thanks but no thanks XD . I would rather die that turn into that thing XD . Maybe it would be nice if Force exist. Whole Jedi view of things, Force everywhere. In every living thing, just like Jedi code said There is no death, there is the Force . Well that would be cool . The point is, our bodies are like almost infinitely more complex machines. Our spirits ride in our body machines, controlling them like storm troupers controlled their humanoid, robot-like machines that they rode in. It's all way more complex than science has come close to figuring out. The initial poster highlighted the fact you went against what he asked for you not to do and you still go on. BADecker (chuckles) I initially enjoyed our discussions, however, you have now proven you are nothing more than a serial Troll. You ignore requests for no religious points and push your own agenda. Show some respect please and have the decency to allow a topic to progress without your need to attempt to indoctrinate others. He also highlighted the fact that I remained within his requests. So I go on. But what are you doing with your post that doesn't do anything to further the "after death" discussion, but only attempts to pick on me? You have a problem. You can't find anything wrong in what I say. You can't rebut my facts. So you attempt to demean my character... mostly with direct lies. Start to realize that the things that I post are for the most part truth. Check out what I said about after death... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187756#msg17187756. I checked it out and sorry Chuckles but you totally ignored the request. Now check out the original post..... He has asked for you not to discuss the christian or muslim belief. So what do you do..... sprout your crap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716341.msg17187572#msg17187572All I do is highlight your rudeness and your one minded philosophy of crap. That shouldn't worry you but for some reason it does. If you don't want me to comment, then I suggest we both drop the religious discussion and allow this thread to be about "non-religious" aspects and thoughts of after death. I know I can do that.... but can you? You are speaking about yourself ^^^, not me. No.... it's about you. So we have an agreement. This topic is about non-religious thoughts and ideas. Good working with you! Why do you bring up such a minor agreement? Of course all thoughts and ideas that are unsubstantiated are non-religious until they are thought about. Then they become a part of the religion of the thinker, one way or the other, believed or not believed... at least until they are substantiated. The thing that we are talking about is the proof... proof for the existence of God. No religion there. Only knowledge. Of course, there are people who won't look at the proof for fear that God just might be real. They would rather keep their knowledge of God in a religious position where they can believe or not believe about God. Religion following the proof starts for some people when they believe or don't believe the things that God says... and in some cases, that God even says things. Once a person understands that God exists, his next step would be to understand the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Then he can start to believe in the things that the Bible says... often things for which there will never be any proof before the Judgment Day. Proof that the Bible is the Word of God is secondary to what we are discussing. Let's get the proof for the existence of God clearly embedded within ourselves. Then we can tackle the proof that the Bible is the Word of God. Thank you Chuckles..... you have proven my point you are a self righteous, egocentric individual who pushes his own agenda even when asked not to. That alone is enough to drive people to the truth of "There is no God". You appear to be desperate to prove your point. Good luck squire. LOL! You are so funny. Listen to you. I have science facts on my side. And you can't even bring any up. In fact, you probably wouldn't know how to rebut anything even if it were not fact. All you have is hot air. The fact that God exists has been scientifically proven long ago. I simply point out how. However, thanks for blowing your hot air around. Doing so only serves to strengthen the fact of God's existence in the minds of those who are open to science. Keep it up. Hmmm lets look at the way you argue points. 1. Following the words of the bible - BADecker says that by not following the words of the bible exactly, is following the bible..... WTF? 2. By saying that because the Universe cannot be proved as a big bang, therefore he assumes that a God has created it......WTF? Sorry squire.... that is not science fact, that is delusion. Seems that you still haven't looked at what I say about the proof that God exists. Here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. However, thanks again for hinting that I should post it. Other people will read, and some of them will start to understand that God exists. Linki 1 says pretty much nothing Link 2 breaks newtons law. God have to have a beginning. link 3 is bs Link 4 breaks newtons 3rd law. God must have had a cause to pop up Like I said. You barely can understand things. God, being outside the universe, doesn't have to obey universe laws, like having a beginning. |
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Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.
Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this. It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion Are you saying that you are not an atheist? Who cares? The fact that you have firmly embedded beliefs within yourself shows that you are religious, and have a personal religion going for yourself. It's in the definition of religion. Take a look. I even gave you the link... even though I wasn't responding to a post of yours. Or are you v1ryspro as well as Gimpeline?I'm saying I don't believe. If I don't bereave in Santa, I'm not a Santa follower. I know that Santa doesn't exist, just as your God doesn't exist. Its not religion, it's logic. What does that have to do with anything? Lots of people believe stuff that is not true. Otherwise there wouldn't be any accidents or plane crashes. Don't believe the proof that God exists. Understand it, so that you pass from believing to knowing. There is no proof. I have asked you over and over again to show me the peer rewired paper and so far you have not delivered. I really don't think that you would understand the proof if you looked at it. But here it is again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. |
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Still lying
Yep. You are still lying. |
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