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2641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 09:21:19 AM
There is no way to gamble in a safe way because the chances of you winning are still going to be the same no mater what you try to do.
With most of these gambling games luck is required in order to win and that is a fact.
How can you require a luck when you cannot control it, skills is more important because we can develop it by reading the relevant method to win in gambling, part of our strategy should include controlling our self because if we fail we will suffer in the end.

That is definitely true! You cannot control your luck and that is why you need to hone your skills in order to have more chances of being lucky. You will not just bet randomly in one setting and before you know it, all of your bankroll are now gone - compared to have a good strategy of having many sessions and pre-planned bets where all of your bets are planned already and you have them in control.
2642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 09:17:52 AM
May be not if I was much more rich than now. I can just imagine how the things would look like if I would be rich someday. I surely will have business of real world and then to extend them more and simply to mange them better, needs lot of time. I think I would not have time for gambling as for now making profit is my main idea of playing.

That is right, when you get your richness out of wise decisions, then it just doesn't make sense if you gamble them all when you reach to that point. Pursuing and maintaining a real business is the best and wise decision to make while gamble only during your free time and just for fun or just gamble to network with other prospect for the growth of your business.
2643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 03, 2016, 09:14:42 AM
From what I know there is not reason to gamble in a smart way because the odds are going to be against you no matter what so it does not matter what you do.
You just need luck and that is what is comes down to luck and more luck.

You are right that gambling is based on luck. There are professional gamblers though that finds a way to have more chances to get lucky and that is by creating more sessions and play according to plan of betting - following strictly the system no matter what. They have mastered these by experienced and many tests.
which is right mate the more you play the more chances that you can build your safety system but that one cant be the same with another gambler so theres nothing but your own good understanding about the game you are playing. smart means some edge in accordance to the game you gamble.

I could not agree more to that mate. You are right, each gambler has his/her own comfortable strategy that is best suited to that person and is effective as well. Hence, when someone gives you proven strategies, think twice and try it with small amount of bets coupled with pre-planned bets and the goal you want - if you reach your desired profit goal or limit loss, stop at once.
2644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 03, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
no matter how great your strategy in gambling, you will never win.

That is correct because gambling is not made to make money but is meant for having a fun. If you use it to earn money from it then at the end you may lose lot of money and don't even enjoy the games. Hence don't use gambling for earning money.
So you think if you gamble for having fun will not make you losing anything in the end?
No it was big mistake you have a mindset like that.
Gambling is of course about when people realize one day they will get lost and full of regret , any strategy wont help with this fact.

To gamble for fun is independent of the outcome of the game - whether win or lose. The main goal of the player that only gambles for fun is for fun, period. Now, if he win or lose, it really doesn't matter at all. He may lose or win but the outcome does not affect the player as long as he/she is having fun while gambling.
2645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 03, 2016, 09:07:27 AM
i only use gambling when i need a payment and i need only 1$ more so i bet for x1.1 profit with and amout 10$ and when lose i'm feeling like i will thow my pc from the window but it is only 10$ after all that can't make a person cry :p

Hahaha cool story, but if I'm the one that lose that $10 I will definitely not only crying but I will think about it all over the time.
And for sure, I can't sleep if that happens to me.
You are not a men if you cry about gambling because you know what can happen with your money if you decide to go out and gamble with it.
So if you lose you just have to accept that fact and keep it going.
thats true, such things shouldnt make you cry because it is just dumb to do that, then just dont gamble if you are so scared to lose
Yeah I think true gambler will not cry because of gambling, addiction in gambling is their lifestyle, and that's addicted person how it was and for me they will never cry because of it when they lose instead they will play again and again until they win.

And when they win, they want to win more. Come on, we all know this doesn't stop anywhere. If you wanted to gamble, you should have already knew the risks you're taking when doing so.
Those the one who are addicted are the once that will never stop until they don't lose all of their money in their pocket, once addicted always addicted.
That's definitely true, when a person is already addicted he will be having a hard time to control himself in gambling because he will just decide base on what he feels or he will just let his emotion take over the game and in that cases we normally lose in the end.

In that scenario, we lose because we keep on betting - which is by the way, driven by our emotions. The more we are very emotional in gambling, the more we tend to bet on. In the process, by playing on for a longer period of time, you are already exposing yourself to house edge and sooner or later, you will eventually lose.
2646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 03, 2016, 09:03:57 AM

Exactly, it is a personal problem. Only determination and dedication to get rid of it can help the addicted person. And hence I consider gambling as one personal problem and not as a sickness.
It is our choice to play in gambling so it is not gambling itself that is the problem for this. "You" that is already addicted is the one that is the problem and not the gambling itself. It is our choice to put ourself in a situation that we don't wanted.
Gambling is a choice and to not gamble is choice as well, I know that for those that are addicted to gambling choosing to not gamble is very difficult but at the end of the day is a decision they will need to take or they will probably wreck their life’s.

Simple, sweet, and direct to the point. We are primary responsible to our actions, decisions, and our self as a whole. So, when we are on a bad situation, we can either give up or fight on - same thing with gambling addiction, you are the primary person that can help yourself to stay away from it and live a life that is more healthy and happy Smiley
2647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 03, 2016, 08:50:53 AM
I will also second the suggestion about going for third option that can be anything like some physical start up as you have many chances to grow your business much more. It had better to stay away from gambling as gambler or investor at all. This thing is tricky and will drag you to play to gain much more from it. I have met 2 persons which started with investing and ending at gambling.

I just do hope that those 2 known persons of yours are doing good at gambling by following pre-planned betting, proper bankroll management, creating many sessions, and the like. People really tend to shift focus from investing to gambling especially when they find investing as a slow yield process compared to gambling that if you are lucky can gain very big profit in matter of minutes.
2648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 03, 2016, 08:48:06 AM
From what I know there is not reason to gamble in a smart way because the odds are going to be against you no matter what so it does not matter what you do.
You just need luck and that is what is comes down to luck and more luck.

You are right that gambling is based on luck. There are professional gamblers though that finds a way to have more chances to get lucky and that is by creating more sessions and play according to plan of betting - following strictly the system no matter what. They have mastered these by experienced and many tests.
2649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 03, 2016, 08:43:32 AM
betting willl never be wrong if you play only with faucet in my situatcion it is always win situation for me Smiley



Faucets are very time consuming and in return you earn very small amount, and if you earn money from faucets then you have to wait for many years to get some dollar so it is not a good option, try signature campaign it will give you some good amount. And gambling is wrong in the sense you can loose your money because winning chances are low.
Definitely I will not waste my time doing faucets, it's true that we all want money and we want to earn it but there are a lot of ways that you can use your skills and passion to earn a bigger amount and so you can also develop your skills. Do not do a job for the kids. Faucets are for kids to be frank.

I agree with the statement. Although I am guilty of doing faucet before when I really don't have any idea yet about bitcoins and was just trying to get some feel of how it is to have some bitcoins. Although that was just for a very short period of time because I was then introduced to gambling with bitcoins and I bought big amount of bitcoins ever since then for gambling, exchange, and loan.
2650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 08:38:31 AM

I would surely do the same thing too since money is  so hard to earn this days  you would  make such hard work, time and  efforts to attain it. If  i would be rich then  i wont mind to waste my money for leisure times since  i could do other things aside from gambling.
That's true, if I were become rich I would surely use my money in wise way and not just to waste them in gambling because I have no assurance in gambling since gambling is more on luck.

Thats correct. Setting up an new business or investing the money is a proper manner is much better than wasting it on a casino where only luck is predominant. One should never feel lucky if they get rich rather be more cautious about their money and spend it wisely.
Yeah, and for me rich people don't just waste money that is no purpose, they value each centavo they have in their pocket. Because for me, rich people become rich because they know how to handle money wisely.
Well i do not agree with you that rich people doesnt need to gamble or i would even say that gambling is only for the richer peoples not for the poor ones.Becuase richer people can afford to loose money so they can gamble but its definitely not for poor ones.

Maybe they need gambling, maybe not. But I think, rich people will not waste their hard earned money into gambling. Their money and time is too valuable to be spent into gambling. They would rather invest their time and money into businesses that guarantees profit. Or they would rather play golf with business partners than  play in  a casino.
Gambling for them is just part of the entertainment they can get to enjoy as rich people, while the poor people has no privilege to enjoy as we also seek for the money, rich have a good self control that's why they are in the top level of the society so nothing to worry actually.

That is correct especially to rich people that got their richness through hard labor and constant wise decision, they won't let gambling destroy what they have founded for so long. They just play for entertainment and if they play hard, they have certain limitations that can't affect heavily on their entire wealth.
That's still base on the decision on every rich gambler, if you have watch a documentary about a rich gambler you will tell that rich people do gamble and this guys every time he goes to vegas he is a VIP because they know that he will spend big to gamble.

Rich do treat that purely as for fun although they are losing big.

That is true. Most of the VIP's are the sharks with big bankroll, not just the rich as general. Reason is that, there are many rich people in brick and mortar casinos that are playing for fun, socialization, and networking yet, they are not treated as VIP's because they just play minimal and their real intention is not to play but to network as to compared to sharks that only purpose is to gamble.
2651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 08:35:20 AM
There are girls ! The pretty ones that stand behind the tables and get you to bet all of your money. XP lol Dont fall for it ! Its a trap eek ! They do that because it's mostly men who gamble. But its not uncommon to see women. There is nothing abnormal about hearing about women gambling. There lots.
I know some girls that gamble sometimes but they do not gamble to often and to not play which much money. Girls know how to manage their money on a good way.
Most of them would not spend it to gamble.
i believe you mate unlike men we intend to be more risk taker in the wrong ways we always have that fate that we can regain back our loses unlike women they are afraid losing big amounts of money thinking that they can use it in more profitable ways, they will buy make up or things that will make them happy instead of playing it and lose money in gambling their might be some women that deal with gambling but not that much and not that so addicted as well.

Partly true and not true to all. Check some high rollers in online gambling sites, there are some women out there on the list. Check primedice there are big bettors out there that are women and even give tips to players in the chatroom. But yes, we see men most of the time because there are really more men gambling than women does.
2652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 03, 2016, 08:32:00 AM
Gambling is using your chance if your luck is at top you will win else you are going to loose. There is absolutely nothing safer even I will say further that any game any sports and thing where you are placing bet and can loose too. I will not consider that safer because it is against the meaning of safety.
well if you are or if you can bet with fixed betting thats safe for me if you can buy or if someone can make an assurance that you are betting with some fixed thats safe method knowing and taking advantage with your bet can make you safe while playing or if you are in a casino or dice that have some bugs and you get a chance to take on it thats safe but in a fair game i cant say but theres no safer bet indeed.

There is really no fixed strategies to win over casinos because they have this house edge. Even professional gamblers have multitude of strategies that they will apply on certain sessions - not just sticking to one strategy. If someone assures you of best strategy and you only do that all the time when you bet, then there is a big chances that you will lose or busted because you will be caught up by the edge of the house.
2653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 08:28:49 AM
In my opinion don't exist any easiest way of making profit from gambling in any form. You need to put lot of efforts whether you are gambling services provider, a simple player or promoter like affiliate to earn by referring people. There are things which everyone of these categories faces in their ways. Most difficult from these is making profit as gambler what I have seen so far.

That is correct. I have a friend that is really doing well with gambling and he has different strategies, not just one. He is actually a professional gambler and does a living out of it. He's shown me his strategies and it is book bind that is very thick. I just can't imagine how many set of strategies he has on that book of him. When we get a chance to chat, he is still finding new strategies from time to time even if he has more already - that is how much work he have during the day - it is really a job and not just random gambling.
2654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 03, 2016, 08:23:35 AM
My reason to gamble is profit
sometimes only for fun too, if I want to play it for fun I bet a small of amount.

Winning against the house is very difficult. So you can win bit by bit but in the long run, you will still end up losing. Are you able to afford the losses when the time comes?
It is really risky although their are still lucky persons that is winning in the end when they play gambling. They wanted to get more money and they are really lucky to get what they want, but still they are really persons that luck is not enough for them to win. I don't why many people are really losing in gambling than winning.

in some games you only need luck to win and nothing else in the world can help you to change this fact .

but also at the same time in some other games you need luck plus some skills to win . for example there is no way in hell you can win in sports betting consistently without having any skills in the game yourself.
Yeah probably you are right. We all know that in gambling it is really MORE on luck but sometimes, there would really also gambling games needs strategy and that is the time that we need both to win.
Yes indeed to win in gambling we need some luck and the game also requires a strategy. But win or not remains to luck gambling. I gamble just for fun because I know that gambling is just luck.
to win in gambling you actually need huge luck to be honest, i never manage to win a lot of money

Not only you but no one can win money from gambling if they gamble on a regular basis. Gambling is made to have fun when we need some entertainment and during this entertainment, if we are lucky then only we can earn some money. But don't gamble only to make money because you may lose more money in this process.

Correct. As long as you are gambling for fun and not looking for profit, you are good to go because whatever the result be at the end of the day - whether you win or lose, it doesn't really matter to you because after all, you only play for entertainment and not for profit. So, as long as you are having fun, you get your goal and all is well.
2655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 03, 2016, 08:20:08 AM
I think you have to do other fun things besides gambling. you can spend time with friends or family because I believe it would be more fun than gambling. you can also use other ways to earn money other than gambling, for example such as trading and mining bitcoin

I do believe that day job could solve gambling addiction aside from using most of your time with your family. When you have a job, your way of thinking is different compared when you are just sitting in front of your computer or have nothing to dedicate your efforts to. the busier your mind is, the smaller the chance that you have time to think about gambling.

That is correct. When you have something very important thing to do, then you will not be tempted to gamble. The more free time you have and spend it gambling to casinos, the more chances you get hooked and the chance of losing. The less time opportunity you have gambling, the less you will get hooked to it. Well, each person has its different characteristics and tendencies to becoming hooked to certain things. Know yourself and protect it from getting hooked and lose big in gambling.
2656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: October 03, 2016, 08:16:54 AM
no matter how great your strategy in gambling, you will never win.

That is correct because gambling is not made to make money but is meant for having a fun. If you use it to earn money from it then at the end you may lose lot of money and don't even enjoy the games. Hence don't use gambling for earning money.
Although there is a chance for every gamble to win in gambling but that is hardest job to do and maybe for the total gamblers who attempt that, only 1 percent succeeds, and that is a low success rate. You need to be very lucky to win in the gambling.

Precisely. Gambling like dice games or slots, are based on pure luck. With the house edge advantage of these online casinos and even offline casinos, then you need to be more luckier than you have to Smiley What I mean is that, when you win some, you better learn to stop and cashout before you are going to lose because you will eventually will!
2657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 03, 2016, 08:12:28 AM
No, i am not become rich from gambling. And I am not sure that in future also I will not become rich from gambling. Because I will play only sports betting that too very low bet. and in gambling, the winning chances is very less. In slot games, i never made any profit, and I don't have any hope that I will make a profit in future.
buy i think no one know about the future therefore to predict about the future is not so easy, i also not rich from gambling but i know about some people who are really rich from gambling and still doing gambling and making money.
well yeah i dont know and no one knows what is going to happen in the future, im not rich from gambling and i never will be
maybe they already master their skills so possibly they keep on playing to win more and they control their self in order for them to keep winning
i think it is really hard to master that skills and so hard to  be rich in gambling it is just luck and hard work for them who does.
Gambling si the easiest way to play but the hardest way to win, if someone can win in the long run, I have to call him a gifted person because it is very rare it will happen, most of us loses in the long run just like the others. Gambling is not a professional for me so I will never be rich with it.

When you have a big bankroll and plays like professional gamblers (sharks) then you will become really rich when you are lucky enough. I said lucky enough because gambling is a based on pure luck (except games that requires skills like poker). However, if you have no strategies and is still new with gambling, then you will lose if you keep on playing on without calculated stop.
If a certain gambler can set up a huge bankroll, I call him as rich already.

Setting a big bankroll is necessary for a certain gambler if you are convince already that you can make money in gambling, and when based on your experience you already make a good record that would convince yourself to take it seriously.

That is exactly the point. So, when you can't afford that big bankroll, then you better gamble small money that you can afford to lose and just for fun and nothing more looking for profit because you will eventually lose due to house edge. But if you are serious enough and have that big bankroll to learn to become a profitable and professional gambler, then by all means.
2658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 03, 2016, 08:09:38 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
When you gamble a a casino then your main reason needs to be because you want to win some money and not just for fun.
Only rich people can spend money on gamble and say that it is for fun.

There are still people who gambles just for fun even if they are not rich. One basic example is lottery - they know for a fact that they will not win but still they keep on betting lotto tickets. Also, there are young professionals who gambles for fun with their co-workers during friday nights just for fun and only spending small money that they can gladly lose - they knew that they will lose and just play for fun. If they win, then it is a bonus already.
2659  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 03, 2016, 08:06:30 AM
Its amazing to see the casinos keeping being a profitable investment, and several casinos able to allow such investment into them, those makes them more safety, and for sure a good option to invest, almost without a risk, i do remember someone earning 10% weekly soo sound a great opportunity.

Investing to reputable online casinos is better than gambling on those casinos. However, regarding your take that there are almost no risk, I disagree on that because there is still a risk in investing to these casinos unless you regularly invest for a long period of time - that way house edge is at your advantage.
2660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 03, 2016, 08:02:14 AM
gamble, better i play my money by myself than i invest it to people or site which i don't really know , but different story if invest in something liek gold , or maybe land , etc
I would not gamble. Investing is the way to go.
You will make so much more money and all it would take is you being patient and waiting a month or two. Bitcoin is going to rise very soon.
For me you will really earn money if you trade for a year or many years, because in trading we need more more patient for us to earn. Unlike gambling we just need a minute for us to lose or win.
Yeah true in gambling you can lose/profit within minutes, but in trading it requires time to see your actual loss/profit.(depending on your strategy)
Yes, That's true, I've also known some of investors really can earn huge amount. They take seminars so that they can learn more about investing and I also want to be one of them someday. If I have a chance why not.

Investing will really give you profit but it will take longer than gambling. The chance of losing in investing is low unlike the chance of losing in gambling. My investment are doing good until now just be sure that when you invest you really know the company first.
That's true always check the company if it is always in a profit side. If you think that the company you want to invest is good don't hesitate to invest because for sure when time comes you investment will grow. And for me investing is really better than gambling.
assessment and research will helps a lots in deciding which investment are you going to enter i seen most of rich people are those who are into investment they start to place their money and start getting big profits in returned in due time it is just needed more education and experience to make it successfully.
I suggest we choose investing over gambling, and we should always start with a little amount to prove to ourselves our capability in investing, that is advisable for every investor as if we will fall it is not that hard, you cannot expect to succeed all the time in investment.

Investing is really preferable than gambling. Although there are risks involved in both of them, the risk can well e mitigated in investing as to gambling. Much more if you do not know what you are doing and all of your actions are not well calculated. Both investing and gambling needs good calculations as to what to expect to win or lose on that given session.
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