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2681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Whale moved $225 million worth Bitcoin on: November 12, 2020, 08:31:35 AM
Nothing. Such news are almost every day. Just recently we had 1 billion $ transfer from silk road related wallet and ... nothing.

69k BTC from silk road 8 days ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/1-billion-of-bitcoin-linked-to-silk-road-is-on-the-move-elliptic.html

88.8k BTC moved 2 weeks ago
https://nairametrics.com/2020/10/27/bitcoin-whale-transfers-1-1-billion-worth-of-crypto-for-3-58/
2682  Economy / Economics / Re: Still confused why bitcoin is so bullish? on: November 12, 2020, 07:40:33 AM
You wanna know the real reason?

0 - printers doing brrrr to buy treasury bonds
1- this makes negative real yields on bonds (this push money down)
As of 2017, the size of the worldwide bond market (total debt outstanding) is estimated at $100.13 trillion, 100 trillion is looking for alternative
2- interest on term deposits in banks are close to zero (this push money down)
3- corporate bonds risk of not being paid is bigger than expected ROI (this push money down)
4- inflation and fear of inflation getting bigger and bigger forces people to look for assets that will protect their funds from inflation by accepting even greater and greater risk (because safe assets guarantee a real loss (expected profit - inflation))
5- this push money to real estate makes them super expensive (3-4 % real profit from renting is still not enough to cover inflation)
6- this push money deeper and deeper (stocks and dividend profits) but they are cosmically overvalued and dividends are very small
As of December 31, 2019, the total market capitalization of all stocks worldwide was approximately US$70.75 trillion. so 70 trillion is looking for alternative
7- this push money deeper into very high risk assets (bitcoin) - the profit opportunity is usually better than the loss guarantee - and bitcoin is worth only 300 bil $ so even a small fraction moved from above assets will cause huge pump here.

This pump is not caused by Paypal or halving. Who TF takes care about paypal? We have 100000000 ways to buy crypto. Paypal is only another one. Pump is caused by panicked investors searching for good place to hide from inflation.

“The United States printed more money in June than in the first two centuries after its founding,” Morehead wrote. “Last month the U.S. budget deficit — $864 billion — was larger than the total debt incurred from 1776 through the end of 1979.”
https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-printed-more-money-in-one-month-than-in-two-centuries

"In response to the coronavirus, the Federal Reserve has printed approximately $3 trillion. The total assets of the Federal Reserve as of the end of February 2020 was $4.16 trillion. By the end of July, total assets was $6.95 trillion."
https://medium.com/discourse/do-you-realize-the-massive-amount-of-money-printing-happening-due-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic-1f4347cc0404
2683  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: November 09, 2020, 03:39:23 PM
Pięknie  to zanalizowaleś Tytanowy Janusz Smiley
No wlasnie miałem tez dopisac, ze pewnie jest druga czesc, która traktuje btc jako "lottery-like investment "
Wiec generalnie jest jeszcze jedna kwestia. Dobre dane = brak powodu do zwiekszenia dodruku.
I teraz pytanie, jeśli ta kroplowka zostanie odcieta z rynku to czy w jej miejsce beda plynac zyski z "normalnych" dzialalnosci?  

Moim zdaniem to chwilowa euforia i zaraz się wszystko odwróci. Covid to jedyny problem świata. Analitycy wieszczą kryzys od lat (i to bez covida). Wielokrotnie czytałem, że USA przeszło już dawno przez poziom z którego jeszcze dało się wyjść z zadłużenia bez "wielkiego resetu". Covid jedyne co zrobił to zbliżył reset o kilka lat. Ale ... skoro mamy chwilowe odwrócenie sentymentów, to czy nie jest to najlepszy czas na mini alt season? Nie mówię tu o powrocie 2018 roku, ale takie 50% w stosunku do BTC wydaje sie prawdopodobne:

Na przykładzie BNB/BTC:



Takie odreagowanie spadków (-34% jednym susem bez odreagowania) aż prosi się o solidny plus w rejony 0.0024 BTC (+25% w stosunku do BTC). Co sądzicie?  Reszta altów ma podobne spadki do nadrobienia. BTC na swoim rajdzie z 10k do 15k zostawił wszystko w tyle. Chyba czas podgonić króla.
2684  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: November 09, 2020, 02:19:42 PM
No i wlasnie dzisiaj  Pfizer oglosil, ze maja szczepionke skuteczna w 90% !

https://businessinsider.com.pl/gielda/wiadomosci/szczepionka-na-covid-19-dziala-w-90-proc-euforia-na-rynku/4d9h1z0
Efekt? Dax +5% Sp500 futures  + 4.5%
Btc? -1% (czyli wychodziloby ze btc byl ostatnio postrzegany przez czesc inwestorow jako safehaven ? )


Złoto -3.5%, sredbro -5%, dolar i frank też na minusie. wszystki aktywa na trudne czasy w dół. BTC też choć biorąc pod uwagę zmienność to wyjątkowo słabo w dół. Jak złoto zrobiło 3.5% to BTC powinien minumum 6%. Wynika z tego, że bitcoin stoi okrakiem. Ma w sobie zarówno charakterystykę safe haven jak i aktywa wysokiego ryzyka. Mam na myśli to, że część inwestorów traktuje go jako aktywo wysokiego ryzyka (dumpuje jak robi się gorąco) a część robi odwrotnie, a kurs jest wypadkową tych 2 działań. Mi bliżej do traktowania BTC jako safe haven, ale chłodno szacując, obserwując ten rynek codziennie, uważam, że BTC jest w 30% traktowany jako safe haven i w 70% jako pump and dump. Wierze również, że za kilka lat zależność ta się odwróci.

Ciekawie widać ogłoszenie na niskich interwałach:



Złoto na pysk, sp500 w niebo a BTC? Na poczatek w górę jak SP500 (krótkoterminowi szybko działający spekulanci potraktowali go jak SP500) a następnie, po 15 min (3 świeczki 5 min) został zdumpowany goniąc złoto. Ciekawe jak to się bedzie rozwijało przez najbliższe godziny.
2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 08, 2020, 07:28:24 PM
when sharding?

When ETH 2.0? Under development ... like everything in crypto... Dunno about sharding ETA but you can find the latest updates here: https://t.me/IdenaGithub - telegram notifier about every GitHub update. After recent mainnet release (that Andrew decided not to announce - are you scared of hype?) GitHub is on fire. Update few times daily.
2686  Economy / Speculation / Re: This rally is driven by institutional investors - what are the implications? on: November 08, 2020, 03:32:28 PM
Every bubble has to have its own paradigm. No one, who already burned his fingers on last bubble will invest again without new story. 2017 bubble was backed by "bitcoin - new whole world money that will replace fiats". Old paradigm faced high fees/scalability issue and bitcoin bubble bursted. Then we had alt season - XRP, LTC and many more "faster coin with better scalability than bitcoins was being pumped (alt season paradigm - be better than BTC in terms of speed). Then money floated to all crypto market.

Now we see creation of new paradigm - Bitcoin as part of well diversified portfolio.

It seems to me that this may be the basis for the creation of a new paradigm on the basis of which the next bitcoint bubble will be based.

According to the newest Fidelity* paper "BITCOIN INVESTMENT THESIS BITCOIN’S ROLE AS AN ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENT" - Bitcoin is an "alternative asset" not related/connected to other assets and is a great hedge against them - in case of their failour. They suggest building diversified portfolio in a way that min 5% of it is allocated in Bitcoin.

Fidelity - "It is one of the largest asset managers in the world with $3.3 trillion in assets under management as of June 2020 and a combined total customer asset value number of $8.3 trillion"


If they will apply this strategy into their portfolio than 5% from $8.3 trillion is equal to $ 415 bilion. Marketcap of Bitcoin is equal $ 240 billion. So there is not enough bitcoins only for them (at current price).

This paradigm is just in creation stage. The foundations for the next pump are being created in front of our eyes. This will not be dumped right after new ATH. It will be dumped on retail investors right after you will hear from your aunt/uncle during family diner that he is spending 10% of his income on bitcoin as pension fund for retirement. That's how bubbles work. But this time ... bitcoin will leave alts behind and even if we will see alt season too it will be much weaker than in 2018.
2687  Economy / Economics / Re: The Difference Between Staking and Investing on: November 08, 2020, 03:13:34 PM
Basic knowledge ... your post is below this.

1 - staking involve investing. they should never be considered separately
2- here we come to quantitative and qualitative ROI - you may get 20% from stacking and still be on loss when your coin dump 50%
3 - investing does not give much higher/lower percentage of profit. It is completely different.
4 - you should also write something about gross/net profit from stacking. If you have 10% annual from stacking while coin supply grow 8% annually than your net profit is equal to 2%. Whats better? stacking a coin with 10% annually with 8 % supply grow (2% net profit) or holding coin without stacking that is deflationary (burn 7% of supply annually)

And maaaany more that should be added to call your post valuable knowledge.
2688  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reminder: prepare your wallet before the next bull run on: November 08, 2020, 08:46:08 AM
I've listened to advices and did a transfer with very low fee (5 sats/vbyte) to consolidate my inputs. It was stuck for 8 days but eventually went through. Well Its great to know that almost every weekend fees drops significant and its best time to transfer founds but I can't imagine waiting 8 days at the top of next bubble seeing how price drops from 100k $ to 30k$. I still advice to consolidate inputs because with 5 vsat/byte its only few cents and it saves you few $ (15 in my case) trying to do instant transfer during high fee days (200+ sat/vbyte).

Also, this website is helpful to check the status of the mempool and tx fees.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h

Once again ... great tool. Thanks. On my daily use now.
2689  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reversal Patterns in trading (DEMAND/SUPPLY EXHAUSTION PATTERNS) on: November 08, 2020, 07:56:53 AM
Yes you make it sound so easy because you picked all the examples where those patterns worked. However look at how many times in the past your double,triple, head and shoulders patterns failed to hold. Basically in hindsight it all looks easy however try and trade it in real time.

Believe me about a decade ago I bought all the courses and eBooks that though these patterns, however they are very difficult to apply to real forward trading. The best indicator is maybe trend and maybe some type of fundamental news like the Paypal or election news. And then use you those patterns to pin-point a great trade. Use a tight stop with good risk reward and you are set.

The key about technical analysis is that it gives you statistic advantage. In theory this patters work more than 50% times. Thats it. So after 100 trades you should be on  profit with more than 50 if you apply them perfectly. And you will not because you will not open position in perfect spot because bunch of trading bots will do it before you pushing price, you are only human and you will make mistakes etc. This few factors may push you from >50% wins into <50% wins. Thats why manual trading based only on technical analysis is hard and in most cases yeld worse returns than other methods. But ... it doesn't change the fact that it is worth to know TA and those patters because it will help you find good price to exit from long trade based on FA (or FA news) and in "whale hunting" strategy - When i see that, based on TA, price should dump but it doesn't I know that whale use huge TA lovers and algo bots demand to fill bags.

About pure TA strategy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4420866.msg39412664#msg39412664
2690  Local / Polski / Re: Pospekulujmy o aktualnej i przyszłej cenie BTC. on: November 08, 2020, 07:09:05 AM
Jakaś poważna afera z Tether przyczyniająca się do gigantycznych strat. Można powiedzieć, że ten stablecoin, a raczej jego powszechność jest jednym z głównych źródeł ryzyka systemowego.

Upadek Tethera miałby moim zdaniem nieobliczalne skutki dla bitcoina zarówno krótko jak i długoterminowe (nie jednoznacznie negatywne). Z jednej strony wyparowuje częśc gotówki z rynku (a fud powoduje, że wszystko spada) a z drugiej ... spada w stosunku do czego?... przecież nie do stable coinów, bo umiera etos strzymania stable coinów jako i wilk syty i owca cała - trzymam krypto z wszystkimi korzyściami z krypto ale bez ryzyka w postaci zmienności. A nie każdy chce/może sprzedawać do walut fiducjalnych, bo zaraz uderzy go podatek dochodowy. Może to spowodować przelanie kapitału z pozostałych (BUSD, USDC, TUSD i tysiąca innych) do bitcoina. No nieobliczalne skutki.

Albo bardzo negatywne wieści ws. koronawirusa, np.: zrobienia skutecznej szczepionki jest niemożliwe, a przeciętna odporność wynosi mniej niż rok.

Też nieobliczalne skutki. Zobacz, że przy kilku tysiącach chorych US500 -40%, BTC -60%, a obecnie przy kilkuset milionach chorych wszystko bije w AYH. Przy obecnym poziomie socjalizmy jaki jest na świecie drukarki będą drukowały. Biedny i tak żyje od wypłaty do wypłaty więc inflacja na poziomie 50% rocznie mu aż tak bardzo nie zaszkodzi, jak ma coś uciułane w BTC to sprzeda by było za co żyć natomist duży kapital będzie panicznie szukał ucieczki do czegoś czego ilość nie przyrasta >20% w skali roku:


“The United States printed more money in June than in the first two centuries after its founding,” Morehead wrote. “Last month the U.S. budget deficit — $864 billion — was larger than the total debt incurred from 1776 through the end of 1979.”
https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-printed-more-money-in-one-month-than-in-two-centuries

"In response to the coronavirus, the Federal Reserve has printed approximately $3 trillion. The total assets of the Federal Reserve as of the end of February 2020 was $4.16 trillion. By the end of July, total assets was $6.95 trillion."
https://medium.com/discourse/do-you-realize-the-massive-amount-of-money-printing-happening-due-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic-1f4347cc0404
2691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Any relation between market dump and Biden's win? on: November 07, 2020, 07:29:30 PM
If I'm not wrong Biden is less into crypto than Trump was (trump was sceptical, Biden looks to be against). So if we will see any crypto regulations in USA they will be more stricct and less crypto user-friendly than it would be if Trump will stay in charge. But on the other hand ... there might be no change during his cadence. So in conclusion. Biden win will have moderate/negative fundamental impact on crypto while Trump win would have moderate/positive.
2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it over for Binance IEO? on: November 07, 2020, 07:23:34 AM
My concern, however, is in the performance of its recent IEOs such as thoseof Injective Protocol(INJ) and Axie Infinity (AXS). In the past, investors are often certain of getting almost ×10 of their capital once the token is launched after IEO but these two tokens hardly did ×2 of their IEO price. Does it mean that the Binance Effect is already waning or has weakened?

Few first IEOs yeld 10x. Then Band, Perl and KAVA gave only 50-70% in profit. Then we had second IEO wave with another 4x-10x profit and now again ~x2 and most likely back to 50-70%. Bitcoin is that strong that no one is looking at alts/IEOs. Thats the reason of bad performance of last 2 IEOs. INJ was also a DEFI project - who is buying dead overhyped defi now? 2 months too late for such IEO.

When BTC will chill out then binance IEOs will start to give better ROI (at least interesting once - not dead post bubble boring stuff)
2693  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance will delist POE and TNT on: November 06, 2020, 06:53:14 PM
I don't think that low volume was the case. If so these are coins with the lowest trading volume:



Not TNT that had 6 BTC trading volume 2 days before announcement (its 250 now but only because of the fact that people are dumping hot potato)
2694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance will delist POE and TNT on: November 06, 2020, 05:33:34 PM
You know what was the reason?

BTW They should delist coins much more often. 400 coins/tokens are now listed on Binance. I doubt that 100 are worth more than a penny.
2695  Economy / Economics / Re: Nice price for bitcoin on the coinmarketcap.com . A little less, as 1.00 BTC :D on: November 06, 2020, 01:08:32 PM
FYI



1 BTC is worth almost 1 BTC after 7.21% pump. Damn i missed the opportunity to buy some BTC using my BTC Smiley

It reminds me something. Someone once was asked:

- Do you really think 1 btc will be worth as much as 1 million dollars?
- No. million dollars will be worth as little as 1 bitcoin.

Can't find oryginal quote.
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 06, 2020, 12:45:11 PM
Yes, we now see good support for buying there, although the trading itself is still quite sluggish ,and judging by the latest official announcements, the initiative to list the coin was from the ViteX exchange itself  Wink

Yea. 3 huge walls. At total 2 BTC (1% of idena supply) is protecting 670-550 sat. This is impressive considering weak volume:



Speaking of which ... its very small and ... looks kinda fake. Just take a look at that:



Small order (random in range ~2-5$) each 8-10 min. Its looks so ridiculous. Is vitex really thing we are that stupid? Damn ... didn't expect that from "DEX"
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My suggestion for new projects team who want to promote their projects on: November 05, 2020, 12:56:05 PM
My suggestion for homeless people.

1- find nice house
2- buy house

Thats how your sugestions looks like for someone who is in crypto for few years. I have one more:

My suggestion for starving people.

1- buy food
2- eat food
2698  Local / Polski / Re: System kreacji pieniądza. Czy dotyczy to również bitcoina? on: November 05, 2020, 12:43:12 PM
czy to jest raz w roku, czy częściej? bo przyznam ze na kanałach gdzie się w tym czasie udzielałem nie było o tym mowy, a inicjatywa warta uwagi
z drugiej strony od tego czasu się rozwinął udział różnego rodzaju dexow, uniwsapow itd.

A jak widzicie BTC jako instrument bazowy w kontekście LN gdzie byłyby emitowane tokeny najpierw odpowiadające 1:1 zamrożonym BTC, ale stopniowo inflatujące dające w rezultacie nową odsłonę systemu rezerwy cząstkowej?

Taki główny, najbardziej popularny dzień, jest raz w roku (o ile można mówić o jakiejkolwiek popularności, bo jak zauważyliśmy w wątku w ten dzień nieobserwowana jest żadna zmiana w obciążeniu sieci).

O tym z LN nie słyszałem, ale wątpię, by to przeszło. Czym innym są skamerskie scentralizowane korporacje a czym innym open source bitcoina ale może się mylę. Napisz coś więcej.
2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 05, 2020, 12:36:34 PM
Vitex is a pretty good DEX exchange even tho they have low volume in comparison with other centralized exchanges, don't forget they have 2x the volume of Binance DEX. And btw, VITE their token is listed on Binance and this says a lot.

According to coingecko Qtrade daily volume is equal to 42k $ and vitex daily volume is 727k $ so its quite big step forward. Vitex is also a DEX so we will be trading wrapped coins (BTC-000 and IDNA-000). Things start to be interesting. Also ... I think that we are on mainnet now:

"The seamless hard fork update mechanism is a major step towards decentralized onchain governance. We consider the Idena blockchain to be switched to the mainnet status once the network becomes capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions based on the agreement of the network’s majority. Every validated participant will be empowered to decide which node version to support."

04.11 we had first seamless upgrade so network is capable of seamlessly upgrading protocol versions so its mainnet (Andrew is no longer responsible for anything. Nodes are - we are voting for or against update). Andrew what are you doing not announcing that officially?
2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 02, 2020, 12:23:40 PM

Once again.
When ?!
You answered your question by yourself in quoted text:

"We plan to release the Idena app version that will automatically identify secure flips and calculate the security score. We’ll gradually extend the list of criteria for AI-hard flips with further Idena app updates."

By the way. These sreen shots have to be passed here from telegram. Just take a look at this:

https://t.me/idena_trading/29236

https://t.me/idena_trading/29238

https://t.me/idena_trading/29240

https://t.me/idena_trading/29242

Build in oracle and ADS are right behind the corner.
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