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2681  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone else got their BFL Order adjusted? on: May 08, 2013, 10:16:37 AM
With my order not the price but the shipping status was updated yesterday.
it's now "fulfilled", afaik that means its shipped. I can't believe.

Can anyone confirm another 2012 jala order to be fulfilled the last 3 days?

What date in 2012 was your order?

2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] P2Pool code base for CNC/FTC/JKC/BQC based on newest p2pool on: May 08, 2013, 08:10:18 AM
I am getting heaps of Warning: local node 127.0.0.1:40100 misbehaving errors in the bbqcoind debug.log like 39,625 of them in the past 12 hours.

Process on socket 40100 is the python script run_p2pool.py

tcp        0      0 localhost:40100         localhost:19323         ESTABLISHED 11818/python    
tcp        0      0 localhost:19323         localhost:40100         ESTABLISHED 1528/bbqcoind  

Any idea what's causing that and how to stop it filling the debug.log?


Can anyone else check their bbqcoind debug log for similar errors?

Hmm not sure. How you tried to start bbqcoind on other ports by changing bbqcoin.conf ??

Make sure to reflect changes when you start up p2pool in the command agrs.

No hmm, the errors is in the debug log file bbqcoind ?

Nothing in p2pool log ?

Could putting -debug in the p2pool startup command cause that? I took it out and restarted p2pool and the errors seem to have stopped.




2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] P2Pool code base for CNC/FTC/JKC/BQC based on newest p2pool on: May 08, 2013, 07:33:51 AM
I am getting heaps of Warning: local node 127.0.0.1:40100 misbehaving errors in the bbqcoind debug.log like 39,625 of them in the past 12 hours.

Process on socket 40100 is the python script run_p2pool.py

tcp        0      0 localhost:40100         localhost:19323         ESTABLISHED 11818/python    
tcp        0      0 localhost:19323         localhost:40100         ESTABLISHED 1528/bbqcoind  

Any idea what's causing that and how to stop it filling the debug.log?


Can anyone else check their bbqcoind debug log for similar errors?
2684  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 08, 2013, 06:45:31 AM


Won't scale to 72GH/s for 340 USD... more like 10.000 USD, which is in line with what Avalon is charging.

BFL might be trying to get economies of scale as they (possibly) realized they shot themselves in the foot with pricing. Then again, their ASIC is on a smaller process so each unit might be cheaper than the Avalon ones (so many variables...).

The Avalon 66GH/s has been measured at 620watts by at least one owner, and uses 240 chips that run at 275MH/s not 300MH/s even at 300MH/s we would be talking over 40watts per 16chip Klondike board. Personally I would wait until the chips have arrived, been fitted to a board and measured running before making efficiency and cost claims. You might suddenly find the 16 chip board needs more cooling or who know what other issues.




2685  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 08, 2013, 05:17:05 AM


No more vapourware to those on the back end of the BFL order train right? Especially given what we are seeing from the open source designers. There is more than just an idea here it is moving forward and this will happen. And to be brutally honest who you would put more faith in at this point? Avalon releasing the specs and DIY'ers making these boards work or BFL?

You are trying to deflect what was a pretty straightforward question. As far as I am concerned the Avalon chip DIY based project are not  an option until the designs and chips are shipping from Avalon, and then starts the actual building of products like the Klondike and assessment of market penetration. At that point you can start making claims as to BFL's relative success in the marketplace, before that it's wild speculation.






2686  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 08, 2013, 04:54:02 AM
This will be mass produced (if it works) and replicated locally across the world... BFL will not get a second run at this. It could be game over for them and given their delivery delays I can't see anyone going with them ever again when these cheaper and better built alternatives come out in a few months.

I am waiting on my 540 chips... and my plan when they are up and mining is to reproduce the boards locally here in Indonesia for the Indonesian market only. I won't be the only person doing this trust me things have changed and BFL will have to either change or face the fact they will be pushed completely out of the market.

Understood, but the Avalon chips are vaporware atm, possibly months off. Have they published the schematic and open source board design yet? It was meant to be May

2687  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 08, 2013, 04:43:47 AM
So instead of 8 chips, the single will use 16 chips, it is a nice move that leaves a lot of room for chips. I remember that they said the test for running at 500Mhz is problematic but chips can run stable at 300Mhz, e.g. 4.8GH per chip

So if BKKcoins actually builds a functional Klondike, a 16 chip board that could clock to 300 Mhz per chip on a 10 cm x10 cm square at 32W as a DIY project in a few months what the hell has BFL been doing these past 10 months?

Quote
Each Klondike board has a 6 pin PCI Express power connector allowing efficient powering of many boards from a decent ATX PSU. A 16 chip board should be capable of 4512 MH/s and consume about 32W power. A low cost Corsair CX-600 PSU should easily power 16 boards using readily available power splitters. This provides for 72 GH/s off one low cost ATX PSU.


And costing roughly https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike/blob/master/docs/Parts%20List.pdf what only $26.48 per manufactured board with runs of 25+ board minimum and $8 for an Avalon chip and then in heatsinks, the psu and time and sweat you could put have the following.

16 Avalon Chips............................  $128.00
1 Board......................................... $ 23.68
Corsair CX-600 PSU.......................... $70.00
1 Extruded Al Heat sinks....................  $6.00
Blood Sweat Tears.........................  $100.00
USB cable........................................ $2.00
32+ Watts.
4.8 GH/s
No extra shipping charges
Easily scales to 72 GH/s

For 330 USD?

Hmmm.

I see a tough road ahead for any BFL products if the Avalons DIY'ers get this working. This might prove the end of BFL considering this will be open source.





Has anyone received the chips to make a board yet? 99% of miners are not going DIY.

2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] P2Pool code base for CNC/FTC/JKC/BQC based on newest p2pool on: May 08, 2013, 03:59:08 AM
On the p2pool GUI there is allways a sentence that say something like:

"Expected after mining for 24 hours: 2.70 BQC per block."

What does that actually mean? I have not seen a block pay the default address that much, it's usually around half that figure. How is it calculated? I thought it might be all the local payouts added up, but even that didn't match.

The variable is called expected_payout_amount and the line in index.html that calculates it says:

Code:
d3.select('#expected_payout_amount').text(d3.format('.3r')(local/global_stats.pool_hash_rate*local_stats.block_value*(1-local_stats.donation_proportion)));


I just want to modify the text to describe more accurately what the figure means to people viewing the page.





2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Difficulty Skyrocketing. on: May 08, 2013, 03:21:00 AM
Personally I blame it on sites like coinchoose.com that shows the most profitable coin to mine at this point in time.

I checked Allchains like 3 days ago and the difficulty was suppose to drop 12% when the other coins where more profitable.  Now that it's number one the difficulty jump up 16% instead?

Coinchoose.com is broken, in as much as the profitability calculation can reorder the list every few minutes, it should be calculated on a weighted average of the trade ratio with BTC, over at least the past hour, even the past 24hours, not the spot price, to be meaningful to miners.

2690  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 08, 2013, 02:43:53 AM
Another useful BFL thread ruined by trolls.
Are there no mods?

I am use to a forum with over 10,000 active members, where mods would have deleted half the posts in this thread in seconds as off topic or abusive.



I have most of them ignored, what gets me is the retards who quote them.

Same, if you check the forum stats here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats  you will see that the worst trolls of BFL threads are also the turbo posters right across these forums.

2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] 500 BQC on: May 08, 2013, 02:25:54 AM
https://bter.com
2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BBQcoin.org Official Thread on: May 08, 2013, 02:24:38 AM
Almost 3 million feathercoins were mined in the first 24 hours. Same effect as a pre-mine.

Except it's nothing like it. Firstly Feathercoins are 200 per block, that's 4 time LTC with the same 2.5min block rate.

Check the payout addresses of the first days blocks, they go to lots of different wallets not just a few like a pre-mine would have.

Nice conspiracy theory though, keep it up you might eventually convince some noobs.

2693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] CHNcoin (CNC) GiveAway thread - 10000 to give - 5 CNC each on: May 08, 2013, 02:21:44 AM
CLN3M5xMaevxNteYKSnWSiQtLMCdkkZjg3

tyvm
2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BBQcoin.org Official Thread on: May 08, 2013, 02:19:00 AM
Hey, someguy mined and sold 380,000 china coins in one night, and nobody told him nothing... that was really a scam, same with feathercoin.
This coin BBQ got adopted in first place because its funny and because its not premined. almost nobody owns lots of BQC coins today.

Rubbish, there were no Feathercoin blocks mined before the client became publicly available. Look at the time stamp of the first block and when the client was uploaded.



2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BBQcoin giveaway thread!! 5 for every BBQ address. on: May 08, 2013, 02:05:36 AM
bULRFVo4dX3qJmkuUjTKTjWGm3KRPYiswk

Taa
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Giveaway] Scrybe's Smokehouse, now featuring CaptChadd's BBQCoins on: May 08, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
bULRFVo4dX3qJmkuUjTKTjWGm3KRPYiswk


Smokin!
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BBQCoin Difficulty Rising on: May 08, 2013, 12:38:00 AM
Did the difficulty just drop?

I doubt it   Net Hashrate: 299,362.17 KH/s

2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BBQcoin.org Official Thread on: May 07, 2013, 10:11:41 PM
Patches to make p2pool node for BBQcoin in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178298.msg2063855#msg2063855

And this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198175.0

I will try them both.



2699  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 6 May 2013 ASIC Update on: May 07, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
Another useful BFL thread ruined by trolls.
Are there no mods?

I am use to a forum with over 10,000 active members, where mods would have deleted half the posts in this thread in seconds as off topic or abusive.

2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need help editing the p2pool code to add support for mincoin and bbqcoin on: May 07, 2013, 08:11:56 PM
only one change I would do:

change
litecoin=math.Object to bbqcoin=math.Object

so you can start with --net bbqcoin instead of --net litecoion and it puts it's data in a bbqcoin cir instead of litecoin dir.




My private p2pool is connecting ok, it show about 13MH/s going on in the net, there are a lot of peer connection errors in the log that I am not use to seeing, someone who know a bit more about the logs might want to have a look though them.


Getting more orphans than I did with CHNcoin

Code:
Version: 11.3-14-g2d6a878-dirty

Pool rate: 13.2MH/s (12% DOA+orphan) Share difficulty: 0.0291

Node uptime: 0.026 days Peers: 4 out, 2 in

Local rate: 1.49MH/s (3.4% DOA) Expected time to share: 0.0232 hours

Shares: 18 total (6 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 75.93%

Current block value: 42 BQC Expected time to block: 0.374 hours
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