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2701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Ending SOON! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 23, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
1600 Blocks to go, the end of mining is in sight.

Waffle Pool gained 1 million White Coins overnight. They will continue to knock price down.

I really don't like multipools anymore, they destroy the value of any PoW coin.

You only realise that now? Multipools are poison.

Depend how you look at crypto.

IMO mooltipools destroy ponzi scheme in POW phase but they have also +.
The biggest one is coin distribution 100 Ghs from farm is going direct to market and dump price like rock in water.
POW part is necessary to pump price you need fresh $$ from somewhere even to pump price by multipool is not
100% price up guarantee look at NXT,BC multipool can't handle high volume when 5 ghs.
Little explanation how alt pool for POS works:
1 round pool starts 5GHS - and coin price 1000 trade volume 500     -  1%impact
2 round pool starts 5GHS - and coin price  10000 trade volume 5000.... -  0,1%impact
...and you need pay off 1st miners ass you see only 1st wave of "after" mining is most profitable
next vawes are more for support coin and it doesn't affect price so much.


Longer you play with multipool more GHS you need to be effective on price.
1 Ghs is about 5BTC.... So 6GHS is about 25 BTC when you compare it to BC volume like 3000 BTC
it is clear that multipool can not hold that volume...
When WC was traded on lvl 2000sat it was about 1000BTC volume so how much you need from WC multi-pool to be effective ?
About ~10% do 100GHS ^^ this is why BC has stopped in rapid rise.
And many alts from FAC Cheesy ,C2,NXT,Mint... to Cinny all - POS want make pumping mulltipool ^^.

What you your predictions with WC price growth ? ^^

Note that WC is 24th biggest crypto with:  WhiteCoin $ 1,429,735 cap ^^ this is still impresive in 13 days Tongue.
2702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlueCoin (ß) | [BLU] | PoW Distribution | PoS |Bounties | Giveaways on: April 23, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
Red
Black
White
Yellow
now BLUE  Cheesy


in addition, blackblackcoin Roll Eyes
Grey is reserved Cheesy...

and POS gold is under IPO now.

+ all "community premined coins"
2703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 23, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
Hello BlackCoiners,

I am a BC-beginner, please don't shoot me if this is a stupid question:

Does anyone know how prices difference can be so extreme between exchanges? On https://www.litebit.eu/coin/bc/nl/ the BC price is currently €0.32  Huh while http://crypto-prices.com/BC indicates a price of USD 0.20 ?
Is litebit.eu just having customers pay too much? And if they do sell at this price, does it affect the BC value on other exchanges too?






When exchange have low volume then it goes that way.
You buy fast/sell all cheap in not popular exchanges you need wait looong to get coins on normal price
2704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Ending SOON! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 23, 2014, 10:29:16 AM


But if WC fails, then I don't think any other BC clone will be able to replicate its success.

Nope, Yellowcoin, Bluecoin, Greencoin etc will all fall behind WC as a successful clone to BC. First move advantage is important in this game. WC was there first.

Yellowcoin have tricky 10% day stake in 9-17 days it can cause some shaking and some pump action.People like HBN tricks.

CINNI - gave big promisses it can be that black horse not many was interested in it because of 3 day minig ^^
not many investors now = more can come later

BC never underestimate concurrence.
What WC gain you are interested in ?
2705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Ending SOON! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 23, 2014, 10:18:12 AM
no pump = no dump  Wink

no dump = no pump  Grin

no dump = no pump  Grin = ??

=  Mint for a 2 months... Tongue
2706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 23, 2014, 10:12:33 AM
Hi,

I'm pretty new in PoS.
I found many guides that explain well how to encrypt and unlock the wallet to make the coin eligible for PoS.
But absolutely ZERO say if or when I can close my wallet.

I mean... sometime I have to shutdown my computer ... Smiley How I know when ?

Have I to leave it open 24h/24 ?
If I close my wallet, will my minting lower ?

Is it a good idea to rent a small VPS just for minting ? This way the wallet could be open 24h/24 and maybe optimize the minting process ?

Thanks for your replies Wink
You can close wallet when you want but when you are offlane you wont hit stake (extra coins).
VPS- No way bro. 1% annual is pretty small to stack it all time online do it to secure network in free time.
You need about 700k to get hmm ~20 BC day.
Daily you will get part of that annual stake if you are lucky.
I do POS minig becouse i like get tat 0.05 BC stakes.

But don't be stupid and don't think that more %% = ^^ more income over time POS mined coins drive price down so 1% inflation is optimal to keep price and go up over time when other POW coins loose value.
BC have clones like WC,Blue,cinny,blitz,asia,dynamic,comm coin don't get full your self in long run all we know how clones are usually ends Cheesy they will have higher rates Cheesy to be diffrent than BC but take note that:
BTC clones - like ZET....
LTC clones - like Mega...
Doge clone - like Flappy...
Aurora clone - like Spa,Maza...
PPC clone - like FTC
Don't live long usually live as long as there is hype for main.
Main keep value while other go down when new next lvl coins arrives
and crypto like new "big coins" and hype becouse this is good opportunity to be rich.
2707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 23, 2014, 09:55:05 AM
As promised, heres the commercial I said I was going to make. Grin
...let me know what you guys think
Pass this around to investors and miners!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4k8q-4Xddk&feature=youtu.be


I like it, but some digital voice would be nice.  Smiley

Your screen with BC details goes too quickly to read it all. Not 100% sure I want this to be marketed as the coin that eats others... :/

Whitecoin will also be PoS soon. They will also be eating coins.

Hashrate.org is relaunching tomorrow after 3 days of upgrades. They will be very hungry for coins if they can keep the 0.009btc/mh/day up  Grin And they have 10% on top of that too as an introductory bonus, not bad if they can pull it off.

Webbson hasn't got back to me so it will be harder to compare how it does against the other pools.

Regarding the blackcoin card, am I right in thinking that this is an encrypted usb wallet and separate to the coinkite system? Is there info on the coinkite progress somewhere?

Thanks guys/gals

I hope you will get ban for advertising NXT pool here in BC thread.
2708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [YC] YellowCoin ★★ 7 Day PoW/Pure PoS ★★ Let's color the MOON !!! on: April 23, 2014, 08:42:41 AM
We should make a Greycoin, half Blackcoin, half Whitecoin...
There is name reseved Tongue haha

10% daily! carzy  Shocked

1st pump faster that you can espect ^^.
Tryicky move from devs to get volume IMO.
You dont even how people love HBN for 100% inflation.

I am sure that WC investor will have headake Cheesy
2709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | Pow phase over!| PoS | No premine on: April 23, 2014, 08:12:16 AM
PoS is fine but the distribution can sometimes not be fair... any distribution methodology that is not truly random is unfair... but I guess the dev had to do whatever they had to do. my 2cents

BC is also unfair distribution because only has 7 days POW phase, but now many ppl still wanna buy it, so if the price is going up, ppl would wanna buy it, so does CINNI
Bullshit BC (after POW part in weeks price was in 500-1000 area it was below rent/mine cost)
since then i can tell you it was even fairer distributed than you think:


BLOCK diff   BC (7 days POW)       Cinni (3day POW)

1              0.0001(1day)           0.00024414  (1day)
10            0.004              0.00026523              
50            0.710              0.00113223
100         8.018                 0.00244371
200         11.483              0.00217954
500         24.022              0.00267046
1000       51.312                       0.17107705
2000       65.594               0.17107705
5000       286.760 (4day)            2.71922232   (allmost 2day)
10000      242.371(7day)          15.98650715 (last 3day)
17279                                     38.09906188          

As see in distribution can be "magic" BC was 1st coin distributed in that way so IT should have lower hashes and lower difficulty.
(to balance that cinni need to do a lot of work get better distribution and this is fair).
2710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann]Cinni unoffical thread!!!The covered history of Cinnicoin!!! on: April 23, 2014, 07:18:41 AM
look in blockchain and see nice insta-mine
but this is for almost every altcoin... and difficult to prove its the dev. but ... duh
lets check it Cheesy

Block:BC(1st) vc Cinni (...10th POS copy)
 BC (7days POW) Cinni (3day POW)

1              0.0001(1day)           0.00024414  (1day)
10            0.004              0.00026523              
50            0.710              0.00113223
100         8.018                 0.00244371
200         11.483              0.00217954
500         24.022              0.00267046
1000       51.312                       0.17107705
2000       65.594               0.17107705
5000       286.760 (4day)            2.71922232   (allmost 2day)
10000      242.371(7day)          15.98650715 (last 3day)
17279                          38.09906188          

As see in distribution can be "magic" BC was 1st coin distributed in that way so IT should have lower hashes and lower difficulty.
When BC started not many has faith in it.
That with cinni is hard to comment now for me to be fair.(it can be even instamined scam or legit Tongue but i don't have any prove)
When i count numbers i see 3.5% of instamine.
2711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann]Cinni unoffical thread!!!The covered history of Cinnicoin!!! on: April 23, 2014, 07:09:05 AM
Where is scam they had only deleted main thread ? Deleted thread for giveaway =/= scam IMO.
...

See edge/Panda there is real scam ^^
2712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 23, 2014, 06:40:27 AM

Black and Doge live together in perfect harmony. Grin

I love the whole idea of a loose alliance. Blackcoin and Dogecoin aren't really competitors with each other anyway. In general, more people in crypto need to work together to build value in crypto-currency as a whole. We're all in the same crypto-boat.. we'll all benefit hugely if the world embraces cryptocurrency. I think this is lost on way too many people.
+1

BlackDoge rocks always.
IMO this two can live together and will ^^.
2713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | Pow phase over!| PoS | No premine on: April 23, 2014, 06:28:12 AM
Cryptsy is not best place when you want to start/establish new coin : (.        ( too many coins is there )
3 day that is new record in crypto land. // Anyway no premine.
POS problem is distribution and how to get new people on board those are real challenges.
2714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | Pow phase over!| PoS | No premine on: April 23, 2014, 06:16:31 AM
Cinni beat AC and WC to become full PoS coin.  Cinni will become greater than either BC or WC because it has a generic and fun name.  It cannot be taken as racially offensive like Black or White coin can.  CINNI has a real future.  

Already 4000+ sats on bittrex and poloniex.  #1 in volume on both exchanges.  I bet it will be auto-added to Mintpal tomorrow or the day after if this keeps up.

Today is day of BC clones.
For me looks like templar77 dev of GRUMPYCOIN is main dev here.(and this is +)
If you add all puzzle he should be involved in. (in 99% he is involved in that project, or paid creator of it )

Looks also he plan add etherum wallet to Cinni.(it is more copy paste work he will be able to do it)
Cinni features are mostly covered by it.
BC clones will soon start fight each other to get out BC from throne.

In sentence "Cinni beat AC" just i can't agree because of volume and overall market cap...
Cinni 4000 sat - 15m all
AC 1000 sat - 350m all (23x more) - No premine
WC 1200 sat - 300m all (20x more) - No premine
BC 40 000 - 75m all (1/5 of BC)
...
In therm of speculations cinni is strong in get 5-10x gain.
When POS copy coin can go higher ? That well know like WC or not knowledge by many like cinni.
IMO Cinni is better for speculation than WC,AC for sure new investors ect.
In therm hype/community IMO weak you couldn't manage it to get into eg. Mintpal during mining phase.(now after POW part 2200 votes...)
Such events shows strength of community.( this is biggest "-" of cinni which stops me invest  to get into it)

2715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 22, 2014, 11:46:12 PM
How many Blackcoin wallets are out there?
11463 with BC more >= 1BC...
about 40%more than 2weeks ago

Excellent

Are you assuming each address is an individual wallet when calculating this?
I can't just this is overal amount.
But many people who keep on exchange BC won't be listed there.
I think if someone have less than 1 he abandon that BC address.
2716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | Distribution Stage Ending SOON! ☯ PoS ☯ exchanges ☯ on: April 22, 2014, 11:42:11 PM
innocent question: why whitecoin and not asiacoin?!
(i'm mining and holding whitecoin)
Simple BC up those who miss BC train go panic into WC train...
Anyway this is plan for WC(owners) as far i see.
All want to cash out into incoming BTC whales.

You see in volume that WC attracted more attention than AC.
In copies more attention wins in short so far WC is winner in copy race IMO...
But new copies are under way Blue,BlacBlac,Yellow,Grey... ^^.
And old like Blitz,Dynamic are fallen.

2717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 22, 2014, 11:26:25 PM
How many Blackcoin wallets are out there?
11463 with BC more >= 1BC...
about 40%more than 2weeks ago
But some people will use exchange wallets/accounts.
So in real can be higher.
2718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cinni | Pow phase over!| PoS | No premine on: April 22, 2014, 10:56:06 PM
People understand the success HBN had, and want to buy in low because no matter what dumpers do, this coin is set up for success and the buy support is already there. Keep buying while you can, it's only going to rise and people will hold their fat stacks for that sweet compounding interest. Why blow it now when you can hold long term and beat out any silly bonds, loans or other interest based BS.

 Look out moon, HERE WE COME!
Do you realy uderstand HBN mechanic ?
It have 100% stright year inflation and POW part in same time this is 150% inflation in one year...
This one have only 3,5%... So to compare it to HBN inaccurate you should compare Hbn to Asia coin not Cinni...

Cinni is more like BC with their low inflation...
When it delivers promises fast it will go high for sure ^^.
2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 22, 2014, 10:13:50 PM
the top 100 BC wallets have over 30million BC





sub exchanges and you get about 10-15m Tongue haha
You know we have 2.5m $ volume day... and coinmarket cap 11m Tongue
2720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlueCoin (ß) | [BLU] | PoW Distribution | PoS | Launching Midnight EDT! on: April 22, 2014, 10:03:09 PM
Whitecoin have a premine of 0.7%, this is already a lot.
I am not sure how those copy and paste of whitecoin think
Yellow coin have a premine of 4.1% and this blue coin have premine of 3%.
Do you really think it can go with a premine of 3% or 4%?
I suspect both yellow coin and blue coin are created by the same person, trying to get a few btc by creating and dumping each premined coin.
Be careful when you buy these coins.

Expect tomorrow they can create purple coin, pink coin..... etc.

In the end, only one or two of these color coins will survive, i believe bc will be one, and apparently this bluecoin will not be.
Crypto is simple 1st successful non premine/IPO POS like BC brings new type copies premine :
-Dynamic,Blitz...
-Whitecoin
-Bluecoin
-Yellowcoin
more late you join more premine you need to eat some BTC cake at end.
There will be pump to dump premine allways and then some devs run away.
(premine is usually for hidden reason ^^)

Same is with Aur and copies and Doge copies.
Who now cares Maza or Cat ?...
I don't know about Blue future but they follow that pattern today.
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