Yes, I disregarded future demand (should there be any) for the remaining 5 million bitcoins which are still there to mine because this demand exists in the future. I don't know how much it might be and whether it will be at all, that's why I estimated what the price might have been today against only 16M bitcoins which are already mined (the numerator in the 16/21 ratio). If I knew what the price would be in December, 2017, I would tell you what it would have been if we assumed that all bitcoins had been mined till then. You, on the other hand, just chose to ignore the already known demand for the time span since November, 2012, through December, 2016. And claimed that the price today would be the same as in that November (if all coins had been mined by then)...

Namely, several orders of magnitude lower than the Bitcoin price we actually see nowadays (~6 dollars per coin)

Seem the proponents of man-made climate change, are also incapable of looking at repeating history further back then a 50 year myopia. Back tested, statistical confidence intervals doesn't seem to be a math concept they comprehend.

Please tell me that they will at least go to jail.

Leftists Europe stealing from 91 year old women:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/91-year-old-woman-court-sides-with-bank-her-cash-saving-illegal/


Typical leftist propaganda which argues that in order to end poverty, we must steal from 91 year old women.

Totally illogical idiots that need to be shot in the head. Which they will do to each other.

The leftists feel no shame for their megadeath philosophy. Repeating every time throughout human history, yet they are so proud of it.


Often those who are pictured in the Philippines these sob stories pitched by Children's International, are Bajao (sea people). They refuse education, they refuse to be properly settled. They roam around begging instead of pursuing their former life of being sea nomads, because they find it more lucrative to beg than to live off the sea as they had done for centuries. The necklace on the little girl makes it almost certain she is a Bajao.

Typically the filipinos are farmers and have very strong extended family networks for their sustenance.

I think this is the most interesting change in narrative we've seen.

Say it all you like.  It may or may not be true, but what you say about it has no weight at all because you are clearly an ignorant goober.

[Anedoctes that may be true or not but have nothing to do with the discussion]

In this mall shooting case the shooter was forced to switch the phase of his operation and focus on his own suicide due to the presence of a CCW.  Or so the story goes.

[Aley jones brain force produc placement]

Right.  They ran across a CCW which fucked up their show.  That's why almost all future psy-ops were staged at gun-free zones.  Mostly schools.  This also helps tug on the heartstrings of the sheep to see 'young people cut down at the beginning of their lifes' and all that baloney.  When you see footage of a couple of grieving fat women hugging on one another over and over on the nightly news then a few days later the president himself shows up to 'console the grieving community', it's a sure sign of one of these psychological operations.

My 'heart goes out' to the idiots who buy this BS.  Lulz.

In fact, you did a totally different thing

At first, you calculated how much Bitcoin would be worth in November, 2012, if all bitcoins had been mined by that time, using the same approach as I did (that's true), but then you basically started claiming that the price you thus obtained wouldn't change all these years since then till today. In this way, you have discarded all the demand that has accumulated through these years and brought the price to where it is now. As you yourself now confirm, that doesn't and couldn't possibly work. With this point specifically I fully agree

Malls in this country consist of hallways with shops off of them.  They don't appear as a stadium.  The halls are also often filled with things which can be used as cover such as furniture, signs, booths, etc.  Also there are a lot of them and they are often severely underutilized and look like ghost ships a lot of the time even during business hours.

Next, there is the apparently little known phenomenon that even the mythical AR-15 does actually require re-loading.  It doesn't spray smart-lead infinitely without ammunition management as in the movies.  The user in this case seems to have fumbled with magazines.

Looks like as the kid was dicking around with ammo when he noticed that a CCW had drawn down on him.  One can presume that he intended to commit suicide from the get-go, and had no interest in being winged by Joe Citizen CCW and taken alive by the cops.  So he completed his 'killing spree' with a count of two down and switched focus to killing himself.

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Well, looks like this one was probably a psy-op as well.  I never really looked into it, but it's the same pattern of non-people and/or politically connected and/or actors who came back from the dead.

https://archive.org/details/OregonMallShootingHoax-TheClackamasMallrampageNowAProvenFake

This was one of the earlier stage renditions.  Perhaps the CCW meeting was an unhappy chance and the drill was terminated early.  Most of these things are staged in 'gun free zones' probably mostly to avoid chance encounters.  Roseburg years later was another instance where most of the 'victims' researched turned out to be un-people.  The Sheriff who was notably pro-2nd said as clearly as he was able that there would be a lot of fed money pouring into the community because of the 'event'.  Lots of the Roseburg witnesses were associated with one of those creepy and recently set up new-age churches.

Indeed, they can't mirror reality simply because we had two halvings in the past and still have plenty of years ahead till the last bitcoin is mined. And as I specifically emphasized it, there are a lot of ifs that would make the actual price differ from my estimates even if the reward hadn't been halved. But your estimates (6 dollars per coin) are totally off the reel as I already explained it to you. Simple common sense would suffice to understand that if we have already mined over 76% of all bitcoins, and the price is at 950 dollars right now, it can't possibly be in single digits if the remaining 24% had already been mined by now too...

You just can't throw out the window all that demand which has pushed the price so high

What you do is just extrapolating based on current price and maximum possible supply.

It was a mall which gets around 10k visitors per day (in my minimal research and familiarity with reality.)  You don't think that everyone who visits a mall in a day group themselves into a human-ball of 10k souls do you?

Between 8,000 and 10,000 people were inside the mall at the time.

Allegedly... but exactly my point!

An AR-15 is just another rifle.  I suspect that the idiots who think that an AR-15 some magical power to self-aim and shoot around corners have very limited hands-on experience with firearms and it is crystal clear that their brains have been highly affected by well funded public relations campaigns.

Any somewhat clear-thinking gun-grabber will readily admit that they are starting with 'assault rifles' simply for PR reasons, and intend to move on to everything which compromises the ability of the state to monopolize security.  I expect that most of them have really not thought beyond that and asked themselves 'why?' exactly.

AR-15's 'look scary' which is why they are a useful propaganda tools.  They don't have any magical powers at all.  Indeed, firearms in general are sub-optimal to cause significant casualties in crowded areas relative to other technologies.  The biggest 'problem' with guns is probably that they allow individuals to not need to rely on the state for protection.  This is a bigger issue for people in rural areas where law enforcement is spotty and absent.

Yes, and I even gave you the rough estimate of the price which would have been today if the reward halving didn't happen, and all bitcoins would have been mined by July, 2016. Ironically, it turned out to be pretty close to the exact value of what three fourths of the current price are equal to, namely, 723 versus 712.5 dollars at 950 dollars per coin. Since all bitcoins would have been mined by July, 2016, it was also interesting to estimate the price which might have been by then too. In short, you basically have nothing of substance to challenge my estimates with. Empty verbiage obviously won't count...

Your approach to extrapolation is laughable if not outright ludicrous

Nope!