WELL get your god or gods to give everyone 1 million bucks  ..No not much of a god so my logic tells me no GODS .. Ok that to hard for your god or gods? lets make it easier.. Get your god to make me a cup of tea?..Even i can make a cup of tea  .. So if i go down the stairs in 5 mins i should have a cup of tea..A small price to make me believe he is real..Just think what i would do i would spread the word of god..Just a cup of simple tea..  :'(OH come on god me wife never makes me one  ..Joking she does.. BUT the main one i would like god to do is stop killing the children of the earth in many numbers..  Or ask god could he take the hunt out of money it kills so many .. I am going to see if i got a cup of tea ..But i suppose my logic tells me i am making it myself? I can't debate with people that speak irrationally, I'm sorry. I would rather be the offspring of two apes than be a man and afraid to face the truth. .. What would your parents think?  |
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... Burning witches is wrong. We should put them into insane asylums, and give them electric shock treatment. And everyone who follows them as well. But, if you determine that anyone is a witch, and you are wrong about it, you get the punishment that a witch would have gotten. Are you insane? You believe witches are real? The poor, old ladies who lived alone, used herbs to heal themselves? What kind of twisted deceiver are you? It doesn't matter what I believe. If you can't find any witches, you can't put them in jail, right? Are you out hunting witches?
They were accused of 'witchcraft' because they saw what the religion really was and skipped few masses.
Witchcraft is a religion, no matter how simple it might be. Didn't you see the rest of my post? Anybody who causes a person to receive the punishment for witches, when that person is NOT a witch, the accuser should be punished with the punishment for witches himself.
Witchcraft, hell, heaven and of course God are imaginary concepts. I hope you realize this after pages and pages of arguments.
Since science proves God, and God tells us about the other, the only imaginary concept here is your idea of imaginary concepts.
Did you read on how science is done? How scientific proofs are validated, invalidated and re-checked (constantly)?
Did you ever get into the language of what science theory is? If you did, you would see that science theory is something that is not know to be factual.
Please stop this insanity, get yourself out of this cult.
Exactly what I have been suggesting to you for a long time now.
World is not 6000 years old, flood could not happen, we are not a product of 100 generations of incest.
Instead, the world is 14+ billions years old, Earth is 4.5 billion years old, we a product of billions of years of evolution.
We are mammals, we are all decedents of apes. Evolution is indisputable fact.
Since you know so much, grow yourself another arm or leg. Live for a thousand years. Heal the sick by a touch of your hand. Or at least find all kinds of medical remedies that really work. After all, you know exactly how it all works. Because you know just exactly what could happen and what couldn't. And you were there in the beginning of the world, so you know exactly how old it is. You dummy. You know essentially nothing. And the little bit you DO know, like how to post in a forum, you use to spread your stupidity. Are we having fun yet? |
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The real question is: "Can you be good with a bronze age or 6th century God?" I think good people will be good despite their Gods. The answer is, since God created all things, He also created the natural goodness that you might have, in you. Consider the bad guy... the real bad guy... a guy who goes around killing and stealing and raping and doing every other bad thing. As long as he is alive, he will do good now and then. He has a few people who are friends. He might even do the good of giving his life up for his friends when necessary. Good is something God put in us all when He made nature. |
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Nobody created God. God created the universe. God is different than the universe. The "physics" of God is different than the physics of the universe.[...] So BADecker, pray tell, how can any of your "proofs" (which are, by definition, based on the physics of the universe) tell us anything about a god which doesn't abide by those laws of physics? Your "proofs" are ridiculous, both scientifically and philosophically. That's exactly the point. The thing that the proof does is prove that God exists. Why? Because the laws of physics don't explain where they come from. The proofs do... Something that is outside of physics. No no no, you cannot claim that evidence, (they're not proofs really, as I said earlier the only true proofs are things like mathematical proofs, so from now on I will call them evidence), based on the laws of physics, can tell us anything about a being that doesn't follow the laws of physics. How can you not understand this? All the science we know was written by man, under the influence of the standard laws of physics. Therefore any scientific theories, laws or even proofs that they observed, can only be valid on an entity that is under the influence of those same laws. If god isn't under the influence of these laws of physics, or has "different physics" to the universe, then none of that science can prove or disprove him, because the science was formulated under different conditions. Physics shows that it exists by something that is so extremely powerful, and intelligent, and full of knowledge, and full of understanding, etc., that we can't even imagine what It is like. Even our term "God," in all of the best of the glorious descriptions wherein many people have described Him, falls way short of the glorious thing that He is. All of this is proclaimed by physics showing us the greatness of itself (physics), without any explanation at all of where it comes from. To put it simply, stuff like physics simply doesn't come into existence through itself, or through any means we have been able to find. God is outside of physics, but He is the only way physics can have come into existence. Someone might say that the thing I am talking about is not God. What else can it be? It has to be God, because It is intelligent like people, It has strength like people, It is emotional like people (where else did emotion come from?). It is somewhat people like, yet It is way greater. That's what God is. Aaand the rest of your post was incoherent babbling... I think what you're trying to say is "physics is so great, it had to have been made by god". Not a valid argument I'm afraid, you're making claims with zero evidence. Also even if you do believe that "god made physics", it could have been any god, nothing to suggest it was your Christian god. I have absolutely no problem with you having faith in god, you're free to believe what you want and that's fine. But there is, and probably never will be, any scientific proof of his (or her, or it's) existence. If you believe in god you need to rely on your faith in him, not in some pseudoscientific "proofs" of his existence. And your claims of this proof is not only tedious, it strikes me that maybe you do not have as much faith as you think you do. Maybe that's something you could bring up with your vicar/bishop/pastor/cult leader. Ouch! With a burn like that, BADecker...... i suggest this cream.  No wonder you jokers believe in science or atheism. Like brute beasts, you do and live the things you learned earlier in life, and can't even think on your own. |
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God is imaginary thing, created to confuse people. I'm sad when I see believers, so much pain in the world cause of faith and God's and you are still pushing the same fucking thing.
I feel sorry for this people who live in illusion, thats why there is more people who live in poverty and pain. When you people will rise above imaginary God, and start to love people who are close to you.
Nobody has an explanation of how life and the universe came into being. Science isn't even close. They tell you this themselves by calling their "stuff" theories, things that haven't been proven true, make-believe things, like unicorns and dragons and science-fiction stories. People can go along in life ignoring ideas like where this all came from. Or they can believe the science fiction stories of science theory. Either way, the best answer is that God made these things. Why? Because we can't make them, and we don't know of any other place they could have come from. |
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I have to have a god-given right to protect myself and my family. In the house should be hidden and secured safe with a gun in it. Or, let there be no weapons, no one except the police.
When gun freedom exists, there are the criminals that you need to protect yourself from, using guns. There are, also, the criminals you need to protect yourself from using words. The latter is the gun control groups. The former might be the common thief. Cops fall into the category of both. Sometimes you need to protect yourself from them with guns. But mostly with words, in court. |
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Bitcoin cant die I just got here! What is this why would bitcoin die?
Don't worry. Bitcoin won't die... at least not till it comes to life, that is. |
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The one in my shower makes way more sense to me. |
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$10,000 minimum. |
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I'm agnostic. I believe that a god's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. I cannot say for certain that a god does exist, and I cannot say for certain that a god does not exist. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.
You use no logic ..What you just said your basically saying something made all this?.. So who made god?.. Mummy and daddy god?.. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.. 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no god.. O.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 A god.. So what's with the 50/50.. A GOD  .. You need some SPOCK LOGIC ..Not BADLOGIC Sorry but I have no idea what you just tried to say. He is basically saying where do you get the physical evidence to support 50% chance that God exist? Please share it. I'm sure many scientists and engineers here would like to look at it. God, unicorns, winged horses have pretty much the same probability of existence. Thomas Huxley was an advocate of agnosticism, he coined the word. He was one of the first adherents to Darwin's theory of evolution and was a scientist, above all else. Allow me to quote him, it's one of my favorite quotes of all time. In matters of the intellect, do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable. That I take to be the agnostic position, which if a man keep whole and undefiled, he shall not be ashamed to look the universe in the face, whatever the future may have in store for him.
The agnosticism he defined was a belief in the scientific method, and amounted to a form of demarcation. No objective testable evidence = a subjective unfalsifiable claim. You can believe in some sort of god or higher being, you can not believe in some sort of god or higher being, or you can take the agnostic position and understand that us humans can't, and possibly never will know the answers to these these questions. That position is as good as a religious cop-out. "Something is unknown, I don't understand it (or never will), let's just say God did so that we don't have to worry about it." If all of us were like that we'd still be burning witches.... Burning witches is wrong. We should put them into insane asylums, and give them electric shock treatment. And everyone who follows them as well. But, if you determine that anyone is a witch, and you are wrong about it, you get the punishment that a witch would have gotten. |
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Nobody created God. God created the universe. God is different than the universe. The "physics" of God is different than the physics of the universe.[...] So BADecker, pray tell, how can any of your "proofs" (which are, by definition, based on the physics of the universe) tell us anything about a god which doesn't abide by those laws of physics? Your "proofs" are ridiculous, both scientifically and philosophically. That's exactly the point. The thing that the proof does is prove that God exists. Why? Because the laws of physics don't explain where they come from. The proofs do... Something that is outside of physics. Physics shows that it exists by something that is so extremely powerful, and intelligent, and full of knowledge, and full of understanding, etc., that we can't even imagine what It is like. Even our term "God," in all of the best of the glorious descriptions wherein many people have described Him, falls way short of the glorious thing that He is. All of this is proclaimed by physics showing us the greatness of itself (physics), without any explanation at all of where it comes from. To put it simply, stuff like physics simply doesn't come into existence through itself, or through any means we have been able to find. God is outside of physics, but He is the only way physics can have come into existence. Someone might say that the thing I am talking about is not God. What else can it be? It has to be God, because It is intelligent like people, It has strength like people, It is emotional like people (where else did emotion come from?). It is somewhat people like, yet It is way greater. That's what God is. |
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Please tell us more
Do you even Science, bro ? Of course he does. Mountains and valleys show us that earth is not flat at all! |
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But in this case, the links are so abundant, that they are almost self evident. This means that if I provided them to you, you wouldn't look at them anyway. If you would, you would have done the simple research and found the info already, long ago. I'd take a look at them and read them, since that would be the scientific proof of gods existance but since you're avoid that, that means that suck links do not exist at all. How can I avoid you looking at and reading websites? What does that even mean, me avoiding you doing something? I don't have anything to do with you or your research. Are you saying that they don't allow you to do Internet research where you live? If that is the case, it wouldn't do you any good if someone listed a whole bunch of links right here on Bitcointalk. No, all I'm saying is that if you're presenting something as a fact, you provide links to that. But, since you can't provide any links regarding your claims, and you're constantly avoiding the answer by asking questions yourself, that tells me that you know that such links do not exist and you just won't admit that you're wrong. Is it a fact that people breathe air? Is it a fact that they drink water? When I claim that they do, do I have to show you a bunch of links before you will know it? You can look all over the Internet yourself to find places that explain all about breathing air or drinking water. While the info in my links might not be quite as readily expressed all over the Internet, it is still shown all over the place. All you have to do is put it together. If you can't do that little thing, I guess there isn't any reason for you to look for it. I just punched BADlogics "proof" stuff into Google and this appeared at #1. http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/04/10/the-21-dumbest-things-christians-have-ever-said/ The dumb part is the responses to the supposed dumb things that Christians say. It seems that when people are opposed to Christianity, they come up with all kinds of non-logical responses to the things of Christianity. This is what has happened at Fluffer's referenced site, above. |
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All of us are blessed with lots of beautiful things and moments each and every single day.
 That's why miracles happen and people heal and why the prayer has so much power.
If you're claiming miracles happen, you also have to claim you know how everything in the universe works in order to call it a miracle. It's a miracle that you can even finish eating that whatever-it-is in your avatar. From Dictionary.com at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/miracle?s=t: miracle
[mir-uh-kuh l]
noun
1. an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
2. such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
3. a wonder; marvel.
4. a wonderful or surpassing example of some quality:
a miracle of modern acoustics.
5. miracle play.
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U.S.A a nation of evil? The rest of the world, nations of greater evil. Some of the other nations are evil as well. But no one is capable of giving competition to the United States in this regard. Right now, United States is the ultimate warmonger nation in the world. Most of what the U.S. is doing in this regard is bringing freedom to people of other nations by putting down evil people in their governments. If a person in one of those other nations gets drafted into that nation's army, and dies fighting for the evil of his government, sure he is going to call the U.S. evil. If he would desert, and go over the the U.S., he would find the peace of the greatest nation in the world right now, America. |
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But in this case, the links are so abundant, that they are almost self evident. This means that if I provided them to you, you wouldn't look at them anyway. If you would, you would have done the simple research and found the info already, long ago. I'd take a look at them and read them, since that would be the scientific proof of gods existance but since you're avoid that, that means that suck links do not exist at all. How can I avoid you looking at and reading websites? What does that even mean, me avoiding you doing something? I don't have anything to do with you or your research. Are you saying that they don't allow you to do Internet research where you live? If that is the case, it wouldn't do you any good if someone listed a whole bunch of links right here on Bitcointalk. No, all I'm saying is that if you're presenting something as a fact, you provide links to that. But, since you can't provide any links regarding your claims, and you're constantly avoiding the answer by asking questions yourself, that tells me that you know that such links do not exist and you just won't admit that you're wrong. Is it a fact that people breathe air? Is it a fact that they drink water? When I claim that they do, do I have to show you a bunch of links before you will know it? You can look all over the Internet yourself to find places that explain all about breathing air or drinking water. While the info in my links might not be quite as readily expressed all over the Internet, it is still shown all over the place. All you have to do is put it together. If you can't do that little thing, I guess there isn't any reason for you to look for it. |
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Perhaps if you considered the reasons why God does the things that He does, and why they appear to be inconsistencies when they are not, you would find out that they are not inconsistencies, just like when you walk into the kitchen and then out again. But since you don't even take the time to find out that God exists, no wonder you talk about Him like you do. Check into Him before it is too late for you. No, I considered that god exists because you do believe in him. Finding such script wouldn't affect me at all since im not a christian nor do I believe in any other god but that script would affect the christianity and the world itself, so stop turning it around and just tell me how would you feel if that kind of script was to be found. You consider that God exists because I believe in Him, believing what He says? How strange. What kind of script are you talking about? That's the same thing religious people tend to do with god. Probably somewhere in the desert, deep beneath the sand in some secret chamber lies a script, a true word from God indeed and it says:" Fuck you, you were all a mistake, I'm out of here. You're on your own." But it is so well hidden that nobody ever read it but it is there. See? I did the same bullshit as you did. That kind of script. Well if I were to be talking to a muslim person I'd use Quran and Allah as an example, and that doesn't mean I'm a muslim... You are quite strange. The script that proves God exists is all over the Internet. You can find my links to see what to look for and why. The script that shows what God says is the Bible. You can find my posts that tell you why, or you can search the Net to find why God tells us the things that He does. Hidden right out in the open. Stop looking for it in far away places, and look right out in the open. |
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Perhaps you should let us know which funny farm you are at, just so we can drop by and say hi sometime. And there you go again BADecker, choosing to belittle those of us who challenge you. Tell me, what is wrong if people do have a mental illness and require therapeutic interventions for help? Are you so perfect that you feel the need to highlight their "failings" in your eyes? The problem that you have is that you are so self indulgent that you believe the bullshit which you write. That is not a problem for the rest of us, but when questioned you become aggressive and insulting. Yes I do question you for I seek knowledge. Is there a problem with this? I spend my days working with people with Disabilities and Mental Health issues, yet you, by your comments above choose to believe that they are lower than you and condemn them. Personally, I would rather spend my days working with these people than an afternoon with you. You BADecker, are not a very nice person and I hope you wake up and see the person you are before it is too late. What? Here you go again, belittling me when all I was doing was agreeing to what you express about yourself. I don't have anything against you at all. But when are you going to wake up to the reality of the truth that God esixts? But all I have done is agree with the way in which you represent yourself. I have nothing against you, but you seem to have lots against those less fortunate, why? When are you going to wake up to the reality that God doesn't exist? The problem isn't the less fortunate. The problem is when the less fortunate like to stay in their less fortunate position. At the judgment, if you haven't changed, God won't consider your less fortunate position, because you had the chance to calculate out the proof for His existence, but rather decided to remain intentionally ignorant: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380. So someone born with an intellectual disability who doesn't know your god will suffer because your god let him be born with an intellectual disability. Hmmmm Strange God you got there. And quoting yourself doesn't make you right, it makes you appear psychotic and delusional. Perhaps if you took the time to figure out the science that proves that God exists, perhaps then you could come to accurate conclusions about the things that God does, and the way He works. But since you don't even want to take the time to ask questions about the parts of the proof that you don't understand, no wonder you come to faulty conclusions about God. How many times do we have to point it out that posting your own posts as evidence doesn't count, you jsut look stupid. I stil haven't seen any article or a small thing that hints to science proving gods existance... Strange god, stats, you say? it's not that strange, like hwo he ordered people to kill the heretics, how he destroyed two cities for sins, how he sent his own son to die, how he aparently loves us all as his children but will still send us to hell for an eternaly, how he will doom you if you dont recognize him as the only god... a truly strange, masochist, egocentric, angry god... You are really good at warping a bunch of things about God. Look at the reasons He did what He did. They all have to do with attempts to save people from their own self-destruction. Of course my posts aren't evidence. The evidence is the information within the posts. You can find oodles of it all over the Net if you look. You can't find any information on the Net at all if you don't look. |
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Again, outside of the shape of the letters of the alphabet, the Hebrew Isaiah at the time of the printing press is essentially the same as that in the Dead Sea Scrolls from 2,000 years earlier. The minor changes don't change the meaning in any way. Check it out. Btw, the reason most of the people came to North America back when the United States was formed, was for religious freedom, to get away from religious persecution in Europe. And the religion was Christianity. Wasn't it the gold rush? So they went to america because of christianity because christianity was already a main religion in Europe.. .wat Btw you still didn't name one country. All right. Play your game of writing nonsense. Yes, I'm the one who's writing nonsense... I think we can all agree with that. Hey, man. Don't pick on yourself like that. Just because you write a little nonsense here and there, doesn't mean that you do it in general. Don't degrade yourself like that, by saying you write nonsense. |
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Well, if they travel to America, they are from other nations. If they do it illegally, aren't they evil? |
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