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2721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 31, 2016, 12:18:39 PM
They're not fucking refugees either, even the EU is openly admitting that they don't qualify for refugee status and many of them are actually economic migrants, I'm fucking sick of this. I hope that Theresa May doesn't screw us over on the EU issue like so many are wanting because I am convinced people like Merkel will fuck us over big time.

Call me paranoid, but I think one of the reasons the EU was so desperate for the UK to keep us in was not only so we would have to pay to keep all these migrants but it would also mean she could just dump the problem on us like with France. So rather than having to actually deal with the problem or deport them she could simply let them cross the borders freely and end up looking like a hero while the migrants from the middle east go and trash another country.

My understanding was that refugees had to move to the neighbouring country to be considered refugees but these people are traveling much further than that to gain entry to germany france and the uk. In my opinion they shouldn't be let into any of these country's because the only reason they are moving their is to milk those country's for everything they can. Its basically on turkeys shoulder to accomodate most of these people not europe, especially since noe of the countrys they come from are even in europe but once they get in they seem to get free reign over wherever they want to go.

Milk those countries?
Hmm... I wouldn't like to insult you, but as far as I know they don't milk anything as they don't receive anything from governments as they don't have the citizenship.
Sure they receive money food and shelter from associations, but that's why associations are created.
But they don't "live as a burden for the country" as they have 0 right to any state help.

And I find it very funny to see someone crying for dogs in south Korea but saying we shouldn't let humans come here... how hypocritical again.

And i find it funny that you care so much about these refugees when you dont seem to have much of a regard for life in general. You where living and breathing violence earlier and now your sticking up for the poor refugees? And im the hypocrite?

Besides, id much rather let the dogs in anyway, at least i can be sure that they wont blow us up, shoot us or make any other kind of terrorist acts. Letting in refugees we might as well just open the gates and let isis stroll on in. We could have them all sitting on benefits so they can concentrate on their terror plans in peace.

Im not sure what countries do and dopnt give aid but some do if not all, https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/sep/06/uk-cost-refugees-government-pledge
I didn't breath violence, I was stating logical arguments saying it was laughable to care so much about dogs in south Korea but not caring about what's going on in your home.

And I have much more care for fellow humans than for dogs yeah sorry.
Linking terrorism and refugees is dumber as hell.  Terrorists will pass even if you close your gates, and they'll pass easily! You can't close the whole EU borders good enough so terrorists don't go through. Difference is that ONLY terrorists will pass, not the normal refugees or economic migrants.
2722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 31, 2016, 11:26:38 AM
And what about the massive increase in rapes, complete lack of integration and the host country facing demands by the immigrants to change to suit them e.g. sharia courts, increased pressure on housing, pressure on infra structure such as schools and medical care (NHS)

VEry easy but thanks for asking ^^
-Crimes/rapes: Criminality is and has always been linked to financial and economical status. You don't rape/steal/beat people when you don't have money problem, that's as simple as that (unless you have mental health issue of course). You won't the end of crimes? Stop unemployment, legalize drugs and prostitution. You won't see kids shooting themselves anymore.

-Integration problems: You wanna know why there are education problems? Simple, because we put them all in the same places and put them all together in the same schools. You gotta mix them with the rest of the society otherwise OF COURSE they won't integrate themselves!

-Housing problem: You kidding me? I won't talk about whole Europe but I know for a fact that around 30% of Paris isn't rented by anyone simply own by banks and that's all.

-Medical problem: Again, in France NHS costs around 2billions a year. Private sector makes 6.5 billions of profit. Need another explanation?
2723  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 31, 2016, 09:01:13 AM
The problem with mass uncontrolled immigration is not only financial.

If as you state m0gliE that it is a financial benefit then why is Europe proposing increases in taxes to fund it?  shouldnt it be self funding if it is financially positive.

George Sorros is stating that EU countries should designate 10% of each countries GDP to deal with the immigration crisis, doesnt sound financially benefitial to me.


Then there is the complete lack of integration, the increase in crime, the demands made to the host contry to change their way of life to suit the immigrants.



Of course you gotta pay to absorb the wave of immigration ^^
But once the wave is absorbed, the benefits are much higher, especially considering the low quality jobs and demographic impacts. Looks at Germany,  not even 1.2  child per couple. We dont even talk about "positive impact" here, we talk about necessity of mass immigration xD

For the moral/crime aspect that's very different. Easy solutions exist but governments refuse them simply because they are far too corrupted...

You want to stop every crime in the city? Easy. First create mandatory work to benefit from unemployment help, anyone wanting to receive unemployment benefit should still work 20h a week for public causes (cleaning the streets, helping schools, recycling...). Second legalize drugs and prostitution,  it will completely destroy the criminal organisations, and after all why alcohol is legal but booze is not? You got the right to drink or smoke whatever you want.

You should reduce unemployment by 70%, create new taxes incomes and erase criminality easily, of course that's just the first 2 steps but it would be a good start.
2724  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: July 31, 2016, 08:40:23 AM
I don't understand.
You say house edge is 1%
But if I bet on the price, it can go up or down and if I win I win only 190%. So house edge is obviously 5% no?
2725  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 4 ! 🎲 Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: July 31, 2016, 08:35:18 AM
what are you talking about? if i have 1k sat faucet, and 50 times in 24 hours, thats 50k a day. what difference does it make if i use it up in 10 minutes or 3 hours?

If it takes long time to use all your claims then less people will use all their claims...
For example I would have time to spend 10 minutes claiming the faucet but I don't have time to claim it for 3 hours and because of that I don't use all my claims so they save money.

But is the faucet actually making them lose money? Because you can't claim faucet if you still have money on account so... people always bet what they claim in faucet.

Some people are "farming" faucets and when they reach minimum tipping limit they send them to their second account so they can claim again.

Strange. It's really a weird way of spending your time. Clearly not worth the time xD

Yeah and I was surprised when people were actually paying good money to buy those accounts with those faucet limits. So I am not surprised they are doing this. They probably lost a little money in the past because of this.
Wait, you mean I can sell my account because it has a high faucet? Oo
2726  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 31, 2016, 08:33:41 AM
They're not fucking refugees either, even the EU is openly admitting that they don't qualify for refugee status and many of them are actually economic migrants, I'm fucking sick of this. I hope that Theresa May doesn't screw us over on the EU issue like so many are wanting because I am convinced people like Merkel will fuck us over big time.

Call me paranoid, but I think one of the reasons the EU was so desperate for the UK to keep us in was not only so we would have to pay to keep all these migrants but it would also mean she could just dump the problem on us like with France. So rather than having to actually deal with the problem or deport them she could simply let them cross the borders freely and end up looking like a hero while the migrants from the middle east go and trash another country.

My understanding was that refugees had to move to the neighbouring country to be considered refugees but these people are traveling much further than that to gain entry to germany france and the uk. In my opinino they shouldnt be let into any of these country's because the only reason they are moving their is to milk those country's for everything they can. Its basically on turkeys shoulder to accomodate most of these people not europe, especially since noe of the countrys they come from are even in europe but once they get in they seem to get free reign over wherever they want to go.

Milk those countries?
Hmm... I wouldn't like to insult you, but as far as I know they don't milk anything as they don't receive anything from governments as they don't have the citizenship.
Sure they receive money food and shelter from associations, but that's why associations are created.
But they don't "live as a burden for the country" as they have 0 right to any state help.

And I find it very funny to see someone crying for dogs in south Korea but saying we shouldn't let humans come here... how hypocritical again.
2727  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 31, 2016, 08:29:19 AM
They're not fucking refugees either, even the EU is openly admitting that they don't qualify for refugee status and many of them are actually economic migrants, I'm fucking sick of this. I hope that Theresa May doesn't screw us over on the EU issue like so many are wanting because I am convinced people like Merkel will fuck us over big time.

Call me paranoid, but I think one of the reasons the EU was so desperate for the UK to keep us in was not only so we would have to pay to keep all these migrants but it would also mean she could just dump the problem on us like with France. So rather than having to actually deal with the problem or deport them she could simply let them cross the borders freely and end up looking like a hero while the migrants from the middle east go and trash another country.

And so what?
Even if 90% of them are economic migrants, what about it?
It doesn't change the positive impact this immigration has on economy, it doesn't change the fact that it prevents EU population from shrinking as we don't make enough kids. It doesn't change anything, that they are refugees or economic migrants doesn't make much difference.
2728  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 4 ! 🎲 Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: July 30, 2016, 09:40:29 PM
what are you talking about? if i have 1k sat faucet, and 50 times in 24 hours, thats 50k a day. what difference does it make if i use it up in 10 minutes or 3 hours?

If it takes long time to use all your claims then less people will use all their claims...
For example I would have time to spend 10 minutes claiming the faucet but I don't have time to claim it for 3 hours and because of that I don't use all my claims so they save money.

But is the faucet actually making them lose money? Because you can't claim faucet if you still have money on account so... people always bet what they claim in faucet.

Some people are "farming" faucets and when they reach minimum tipping limit they send them to their second account so they can claim again.

Strange. It's really a weird way of spending your time. Clearly not worth the time xD
2729  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 30, 2016, 09:35:21 PM
That seems to be messed up. With all the recent terror bombings from these syrian refugees you would think she would get a clue by now Roll Eyes
You can see the issue letting in a million of them into your country at the same time. What did you think was going to happen Angry
Ever heard of slow progression Undecided
Everybody knows that she did this just to show off in a certain way to other countries that German is a more humanitarian  then the others in the EU are. PFFFFT  Tongue
That snobby rhetoric backfired didn't it Merkel.
If you try to close the borders what will happen? Nothing. It will stay exactly the same. Closing borders won't prevent terrorists from entering EU, it's simply not possible.
Why not letting everyone entering?
Why would you let everyone in? Impact on European economy would be negative.




Each and every studies ever made prove the contrary.
You either prove what you state or I take this statement and put it in the "bullshit bin" ^^
Where are these studies? The world has billions of people, do you want to put them all in Europe?  Huh

Just write "refugees economical impact" in Google and you'll find everything you'll need Wink
And we could put most of the population in europe without any problem. We would still need a low part of the population (like 10%) in the rest of the world to produce food and seek natural ressources, but we could easily fit the 6 other billions of people in europe sure. It's not like place is missing.
Probably biased reseach.

Lets turn the situation around: You move to an Arabic country: You don't speak the language, don't have any valid degrees, job competition from native population, no permanent visa, an accent when you talk, strange custom. You won't find a job in short term.

Short term it will cost money, long term it could be profitable but that is totally questionable.



Maybe biased research, but that's weird no study ever showed the other way around ^^

The difference is that we need people working in low quality jobs. There is unemployment but there is also jobs that are not chosen because people refuse them because of quality. And the refugees are and have always been filling those jobs.
2730  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: I need 10002BTC loan for completion of building and business uplifting on: July 30, 2016, 05:41:29 PM
You need stupid ones to rip off, but people around here aren't that idiotic.
Those with nearly enough funds to cover that incredible amount even less.
Being mocked is the most you will get with that request and frankly, you deserve it.
Well what I like the most is the 2.
He doesn't need 10000 btc no. He needs 10002 btc.
Just why? Why the 2?

Anyway no one has 6.6 millions ready to be invested on a shady forum ^^
2731  Economy / Lending / Re: need 0.01 within the day on: July 30, 2016, 05:36:19 PM
i need 0.01
back 0.012
within the day in my time..

I don't even understand how you can post that. Don't you see the number of threads where people did the same and had nothing but red trust in return?
2732  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: July 30, 2016, 05:34:31 PM
Trading is just a gambling game. A gambling game where you don't even know the odds...
People lose 99% of the time trading. Sure when you're the lucky one you earn a lot, but trading isn't an investment, trading is a full time job.

If you're not a trader, don't trade, go invest your money.
2733  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 4 ! 🎲 Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: July 30, 2016, 05:32:43 PM
what are you talking about? if i have 1k sat faucet, and 50 times in 24 hours, thats 50k a day. what difference does it make if i use it up in 10 minutes or 3 hours?

If it takes long time to use all your claims then less people will use all their claims...
For example I would have time to spend 10 minutes claiming the faucet but I don't have time to claim it for 3 hours and because of that I don't use all my claims so they save money.

But is the faucet actually making them lose money? Because you can't claim faucet if you still have money on account so... people always bet what they claim in faucet.
2734  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitvest bans me because I support Trump on: July 30, 2016, 05:30:43 PM

Well, I'm just really skeptical about you being "civil" and answering "leftist dumb statements" with "facts" xD

Anyway, if you're from Trump you must be for freedom and deregulated economy. ...

I gonna try to explain you in a simple way:
You're for deregulation of economy right?..

I'm going to explain it to you in a simple way.

Fuck Bitvest and the horse they rode in on. 
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OK.  That's not an explanation that's just plain insult. But it's not like you ever made a logical statement since I saw you posting so that was to be expected.

Again you don't understand anything. Not saying they're right, just that I find it really ironical that a rightist is whining écluse a company did something. That's like a leftist whining because of taxes. Not logical.
2735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 30, 2016, 05:25:49 PM
That seems to be messed up. With all the recent terror bombings from these syrian refugees you would think she would get a clue by now Roll Eyes
You can see the issue letting in a million of them into your country at the same time. What did you think was going to happen Angry
Ever heard of slow progression Undecided
Everybody knows that she did this just to show off in a certain way to other countries that German is a more humanitarian  then the others in the EU are. PFFFFT  Tongue
That snobby rhetoric backfired didn't it Merkel.
If you try to close the borders what will happen? Nothing. It will stay exactly the same. Closing borders won't prevent terrorists from entering EU, it's simply not possible.
Why not letting everyone entering?
Why would you let everyone in?  Impact on European economy would be negative.




Each and every studies ever made prove the contrary.
You either prove what you state or I take this statement and put it in the "bullshit bin" ^^
Where are these studies? The world has billions of people, do you want to put them all in Europe?  Huh

Just write "refugees economical impact" in Google and you'll find everything you'll need Wink
And we could put most of the population in europe without any problem. We would still need a low part of the population (like 10%) in the rest of the world to produce food and seek natural ressources, but we could easily fit the 6 other billions of people in europe sure. It's not like place is missing.
2736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Germany's Chancellor Merkel "firmly" rejects calls to change refugee policy desp on: July 29, 2016, 06:15:38 PM
That seems to be messed up. With all the recent terror bombings from these syrian refugees you would think she would get a clue by now Roll Eyes
You can see the issue letting in a million of them into your country at the same time. What did you think was going to happen Angry
Ever heard of slow progression Undecided
Everybody knows that she did this just to show off in a certain way to other countries that German is a more humanitarian  then the others in the EU are. PFFFFT  Tongue
That snobby rhetoric backfired didn't it Merkel.
If you try to close the borders what will happen? Nothing. It will stay exactly the same. Closing borders won't prevent terrorists from entering EU, it's simply not possible.
Why not letting everyone entering?
Why would you let everyone in?  Impact on European economy would be negative.




Each and every studies ever made prove the contrary.
You either prove what you state or I take this statement and put it in the "bullshit bin" ^^
2737  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitvest bans me because I support Trump on: July 29, 2016, 06:08:10 PM
Well, I'm just really skeptical about you being "civil" and answering "leftist dumb statements" with "facts" xD

Anyway, if you're from Trump you must be for freedom and deregulated economy. Then you also must agree that each company makes its own rules. Then you must accept that bitvest ban you just because they don't like your political orientation ^^

Always funny to see people defending total freedom but whining because others use this freedom.
Well, I never said my comments on BTC Talk were civil in this thread nor in previous ones.  Yes, repeating leftist cliches about George W Bush is stupid and easily refuted with facts.  Sparked didn't mention anything tangible so I made statements that were uncomfortable for him to hear as he probably hasn't been in the presence of anybody stating otherwise. 

So, Bitvest can make its own rules I can't criticize them for it?  But wait, there is more!  I am a customer of Bitvest with an implied contract.  They, in fact, can't do anything they want!!!!   A basic understanding of political economy would help you from making these basic mistakes.  I never called for government intervention to rectify the situation.  You should think that through a bit.  Another is that it has never been stated that comments in chat must follow progressive orthodoxy.

So, what happens when one business has a relationship with another business?  They both do what they want.  How does anything get done?

Fascism isn't just government restricting freedom of speech.  It is the use of both government and non-government violence and other means to eliminate opposition's actions and speech.  Outgroups are intimidated into falling into line or are used as a scapegoat.  At it's heart is corporatism which seeks to coop various stakeholder's.  Hence, Bitvest is merely doing it's part.  Yes, Fascists used violence and intimidation before they were governments.

As I said, with Bitvest there is a relationship beyond mere chatting.  I deposited money, played games, gained access to VIP chat a result.  One reason I deposited was that chat existed and so did rain in chat for those who make comments.  They removed from me one of the rewards for depositing.

Anything else you want clarified?  Maybe some Butter?

I gonna try to explain you in a simple way:
You're for deregulation of economy right?
So you're for companies to be free of acting as they want as long as they respect any contract signed right?

Well I bet when you signed up you accepted the terms and conditions and I'm ready to bet whatever I have that it's clearly stated that they have the right to ban you from chat and get rid of your account without any reason to be stated. So they never broke any contract with you.

You got the right to come here and complain, and to say bitvest is not cool and all. But it doesn't matter that in any kind of deregulated economy, they got the right to do what they did.
2738  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 01:50:24 PM
Right! And how do we stop all the torture of the microbes that all the immune systems in the world, be they plant, animal, or human immune systems, are torturing?

Cool
Exactly ^^
If you start condemning violence of any kind, where do you stop?
Violence is part of nature, you won't get rid of it simply because you don't like it.
2739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Was Melania Trump's speech plagiarized from Michelle Obama? on: July 29, 2016, 12:56:56 PM
Melania Trump's speech Monday seemed to go off without a hitch.

But shortly after the opening night of the Republican National Convention concluded, an observer on Twitter noted that a small portion of her remarks was remarkably similar to a passage from first lady Michelle Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention eight years earlier in Denver...
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/07/19/melania-trump-republican-convention-speech-plagiarism/87278088/

Good, we need more news about Melania Trump.

https://www.pinterest.com/iolip/melania-knauss-trump/

http://nypost.com/2015/08/16/melania-trump-would-be-a-first-lady-for-the-ages/ 

Then people read about Melania Trump.  Then they see her pictures.  Then they like her.

Yeah cause the only thing she can offers is her look considering what she showed.

Funny how trumpers don't give a fuck about the sense of their actions or the representants, they're just happy to do something stupid!
2740  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [PETITION] Stop BOKNAL, the South Korean dog meat festival on: July 29, 2016, 12:51:36 PM
Lol you all make me laugh a lot.
Funny how so many people are offended by seeing Muslims signing petitions to ban oktobeerfest in Germany,  you all find that disgusting that they dare asking the end of this "cultural activity" even if they live in Germany.  But here what are you doing? Asking the end of a cultural festival, same way Muslims do. You just try to impose your culture. Nothing else.

If you can't see the difference between those two petitions then i suggest you seek immediate mental help.   No matter what culture your from the torture of animals should not be tolerated.  I understand that the western world Eat pigs for example which are as intelligent as dogs but there are laws in place to treat these animals as well as possible.  Dogs and cats in china and korea are literally boiled alive and tortured while the other animals watch because it's Beleived the more scared the animal is when it dies the better the meat is.  I hope anyone who partakes in these things meets a fate worse than those animals had to endure.

Ah! Laughing again!
So you consider animal torture shouldn't be tolerated in any culture? Well I don't see why, there is no reason animal suffering can't be part of a culture. But I could answer you vegetal suffering shouldn't be tolerated, what are you going to do about that in your barbaric culture?  XD
After all, it has been proven that all vegetals produce the same signals than animals when they're torn, cooked or cut. So they do suffer, and you're still doing it.

3 centuries ago it was considered as perfectly normal to do whatever you wanted to animals. There no REASON behind the "don't hurt animals" trend, it's just an evolution of mentalities. So why your mentality should be considered as better than the Asian ones?

Do you mean vegetables?  Are you a half wit or are you just arguing for the sake of it?  You obviously struggle with day to day life if you compare a petition to do with drinking beer and slaughtering animals as similar and you also considor dogs and cats to be the same as a vegetable.

And 3 centuries ago it was considored normal to do whatever you wanted to fellow humans.  I'm sure you would be one of the first to throw someone in the cooking pot,  i mean why not?  Humans are the same as vegetables as well are they not?

What I try to explain but what you seem to not understand, is that your problem is EMOTIONAL and not RATIONAL. You have a disgust for animal suffering. Fair enough, but it's not because you do that it becomes good to have this disgust for animal suffering and bad to not having it.
And you shouldn't just laugh about my green argument ^^
It has been proven that vegetables suffer in the exact same way that you do or your beloved cats and dogs.

And yeah why not cooking humans too? Well maybe because it would have negative impacts on the whole society. Which is not the case when you cook alive lobsters or cats or dogs.
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