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2721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 26, 2016, 07:29:17 PM
Gambling is not wrong, but some people are doing it on the wrong way and due to that it will be fucked up, the fact is that if you are getting addicted its your own mistake because you are doing this.
Overall I think that gambling is not bad but that people do it wrong and make it look bad and wrong to do.
yes i also agree with you, it totally depend on the way you play gambling, if you play gambling in a wrong way then certainly it is wrong but for you otherwise gambling is too good and can really give you good profit.

Gambling is really design for entertainment and not designed as gamblers way to milk money out of it. Otherwise, there will be no casinos operating right now. With regards to professional gamblers however, they tend to gain many bet experiences and they have figured some strategies that will favor them based on their experiences.
2722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: September 26, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
Is it really true that if someone want to earn big from gambling he need to make a higher bets? Yes he can also loose but if he is lucky enough he can earn big amounts too. People can not make profits with lower bet amounts like .05 etc. you need a higher amounts bets.
Lol, that is the fastest way to become poor, gamble for fun or entertainment and not for money, unless you are a professional gambler and you have a skill in a game that can be beaten by skill.

But even for professional gamblers still, depends on luck because there is no such thing called sure win gambling everybody guesses the end results based on some knowledge. So it is very dangerous to bet high amount to become rich in a faster way from gambling.
Correct, that is why if you are a professional gambler you should bet when you can overcome the house edge like in sports betting and as you said even then you may still lose.

You will eventually lose in gambling especially if you will never stop betting and exposing yourself for so long because casino house edge will hit you like a lightning with a thunder. Gambling sites are design for entertainment and for the owner to profit money otherwise, there will be no casinos around that is operating right now.

In slot games, the casino owner's will make a big profit because the winning will depend on the their site. But in sports betting, we can make a profit. Here the result does not depend on casino sites, and it's depend on games result. So if we choose a correct bet and place our bet we have a chance to make a big profit in sports betting.

That is so true. In slot games, you cannot really control how you are going to win because the odds is really not in your favor but for the casino. With sports betting however, you can have the chance of researching on the team stats and current news about injuries and the like and analyze the 2 teams and bet on the team that you believe will gonna win based on your research.
2723  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: September 26, 2016, 07:24:42 PM

I'm afraid that you can just make decent regular profits if you have at least 10 btc or so, no?
I mean, what's there for a poor guy like me? Who can barely make a single BTC.

you can work your way up...invest a little here and there...

That is right. Take it slow and work it out. I would suggest not to focus your time yet in growing your few satoshis there. Try to find some day jobs first and make a budget for your bitcoin investment that way, it will be easier for your to obtain a bitcoin of your own and have a potential of growing it by trading with other altcoins or investing it.
2724  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2.5 Years in Bitcoin and still holding. on: September 26, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
I think bitcoin holds more value than even useless gold for future.
It might really become money of all digital world. Because its easier for lots of operations.
So hold and wait. Dont hold just for price. Hold for future.
In terms of adoption, gold is still ages ahead of Bitcoin, so I would be careful here. Still there are plenty of people who doesn't fell well with computers, let alone leaving their hard earned money for the speculation that Bitcoin is at the moment.

For people that are in the retiring age now and are not really into computer, they surely prefer investing to gold. Well, unless one of the members of their family or friends introduce bitcoin to them and they check and do extensive research about bitcoins then there is a possibility that they too will invest to bitcoins along with their gold investment.
2725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: September 26, 2016, 07:18:53 PM
I haven't seen girls gamble with my own eyes, that doesn't mean they don't gamble. girls can do anything they want.

I've seen many on PrimeDice. There are a lot of girls especially on online betting websites, it's just us not being able to see whether there is a man or a woman behind the screen.
yeah i have seen a lot of women playing gambling and it is definitely not a new thing for them in my opinion

That is correct, gambling is no longer new thing for girls out there that uses bitcoins. They are also not only found in primedice but in other online casinos as well. The most obvious and easy way to locate them is to go to chatrooms of these online casinos and you will that there are indeed a number of girls already gambling online.
2726  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: September 26, 2016, 07:16:30 PM
For me both, i used bitcoin as currency and investment.
As currency, i used it to buy load shopping online.
And as investment ofcourse, i used it to earn more btc in
investment.

currently im use itcoin for payment processor only, for investment i choose other crypto curency like ethereum classic.
bitcoin is very simple to be a payment processor, easy to use tha paypal
you are right and use bitcoin as a better payment option like me . since i am.using bitcoin as investment but it is a work of patience to get profit . but overall i like bitcoin to find it as internet currency

I'm still building up enough bitcoin reserves, so not using it as a payment mechanism yet. When I get enough bitcoin funds behind me then I'll start using it to pay for things too. I'm probably 6 months away from getting to that level though. Can't wait till I get there. You are right, patience is the key with these kinds of investment.

I am doing the same thing here. Instead of using bitcoins for purchasing anything online, I just use fiat money to do those processes. What I do with my bitcoins is to hold some of it while I trade and offer for loans the rest of my bitcoins. I just make it sure that I always finds a way to make my bitcoins grow as time goes by.

Eventually I plan to siphon off a defined percentage of my profits into a spending or 'output bucket', but I want a large 'reserve bucket' before I get there, I'm still increasing my 'trading buckets' and not really filling up the reserve yet. I will also have a 'reallocation bucket' which will be used to invest a percentage of profits in other types of investment such as shares, index funds, commodities etc.

You are talking of both bitcoin and fiat money, right? Because I believe we can't still use bitcoins to invest in index funds and other commodities and the like. I presume that your bucket are assigned to bitcoins and fiat money for an investment. It is good and healthy to do it that way as long as you really know what you are doing in these kinds of investment vehicles.
2727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 26, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
The only thing that I can think of is by just go out and looking for a other hobby that is going to help you for sure if you manage to find the right one for you.
If that does not help then you will have to get some help from a professional.

I guess that is the primary concern that OP is facing right now. It is very easy to say that you have to go out and find another hobby but the problem there is how he is going do to it because in reality it really isn't that easy.
His facing some problem with gambling as the OP said but if he wants really to quit gambling for good then he shouldn't in gambling anymore find some hobby that he can do or repair their house plant some vegetable at your back of the house then chilx.


But the thing there is how possible it is. Especially if OP is being hook up by gambling too much as advice i think if the problem is really fatal OP should take first a good advice from the professionals
In that matter when the addiction is really serious, it is better to be bankrupt so he can realize that what he is doing is not right.

Well, a number of addicted to gambling are bankrupt and even try to borrow from relatives and friends to have a fresh bankroll that they can gamble again. They will utilize everything to turn it into working bankroll for their gambling addictions. This is really bad and life is not meaningful that way. We are design to move and be happy not in a sedentary lifestyle and stress because of losing more and more money because of gambling.
2728  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 26, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
I buy bitcoin when for example my wife is in a gambling mood and likes to play a bit then I load up some bitcoin to her seperate wallet.
Also I buy some bitcoin when prices drop hard so that I can profit from it as much as possible.

Lol its good to hear that your wife is using bitcoins and is aware about it, and its good to spend bitcoin on gambling sometimes to have fun, but majority of them should be bought to make good profits from it in future.

Correct. When gambling I am only using bitcoins. I usually don't gamble wth fiat money. Sharing bitcoin information with wife is a healthy share because she will have an idea on what you are dong with bitcoins and hey, bitcoins is the best alternative for fiat money in your online transactions in terms of its features and convenience.
2729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: September 26, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
Thinking bitcoin can make banks dissappear is maybe a little bit too ambitious but it can make banks lose money ofcourse I think it's already doing that.
Ofcourse banks don't feel the pain yet but when it gets more globally adopted then they will feel the pain for sure.

Bitcoin may not make banks disappear completely in future but it can surely reduce the number of customers of banks, as when people will get aware about bitcoins they may switch to bitcoins keeping banks behind.

Yup it will most probably happen in the future, if indeed the bitcoin replaced the position of how transactions and also the storage too expensive if done in the bank. all of this will be something quite difficult for the bank, but I believe that the bank will remain standing. Because the bank is the agency controlling the circulation of money is there in the world and they are very important for this

I really don't think so. Why? Because bitcoins cap is just 21 million bitcoins and once we reach that amount, there will be no more bitcoins to produce. Hence, fiat money will still be here in the future and so with banks. We must look at bitcoin as an alternative to fiat money in our online transactions and other uses of bitcoins.
2730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 26, 2016, 07:04:01 PM
I would gamble because I love the fun in sports gambling, maybe when I will be able to accumulate a great amount I will just invest then.


But you know that how much gambling is risky for you? you can loose your investment. And if there is a competition between gambling and investment, i will choose investment because gambling is too much risky and winning chances are very low so choosing gambling will lead you towards a big loss so  i would say if you want to loose your money within hours, join gambling Tongue

All your mind is indeed a rational and credible. Because of the investment it is certain we will get, but investment also have risks similar to gambling. because in the investment we should be willing to wait for the funds that we have in use or stored until the specified agreement has been completed

That is right. When we invest, we let our money work for us - we usually don't let our money sleep in the hand of the other party holding it when we invest that money. We actually let that money of ours to work hard for us - so, when we don't have the money already because we have it invested, just think of it that it started working for you already. (Note: Granting that you are investing only to reliable, reputable, and legitimate third party.)
2731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 26, 2016, 07:00:45 PM
because you think that it can make you endless money but you actually would lose a lot of money in a short time
this the common idea coming from those very lazy people who loves to earn in a easy ways thinking that they can easily doubled their moeny in such a way of gambling but unfortunately ending it up losing it and feel sorry.
Always gamble what you can afford to lose , with this way you will never get addicted.
People is too greedy make them did not think clearly and just gamble the money more than they have.
This leading to an addiction especially when you lost money , your desire to win it back always there.

greed is indeed something very serious problems in the gambling, each greedy will certainly be damaged or their life will fall apart or poor. all this happened because it is overly confident or thinking that they are the ones who ought to be appreciated or respected. Addicted to the beginning of all vices, gambling by way of doing good and never wear the greed

You are correct , being greedy is one of the  most problem when we  are playing gambling  because  with this  kind  of   rage we couldnt  already control our selves especially on make bet which  we would  definitely  choose the  wrong  decision and  decide to  bet even more which causes of being  broke in the end,

In gambling, when we cannot control ourselves, we can dictate it to cashout and stop playing already - we just play on hoping to win more profit - greediness on the making. When we are done betting, that will be then the time to ponder that I should have not gamble today and I should have still my money with me now.
2732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 26, 2016, 06:58:39 PM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

Of course that most of gamblers plays for money, and they are not "smart" as often they do very dumb mistakes like betting all in and such, so they lose everything
well yeah, i used to play only for profit too and it was a bad decision to make because i have lost money
That's what you get for playing gambling the other way, it should only be for the purpose of having fun and never dream of making money in gambling because the is hardest job in the world and only few had succeed, maybe you need to learn from your mistakes and play for fun.
Indeed, if someone gamble for profit it will make us bet continuously to seek victory. It would make a person become addicted and can not control themselves. Gambling was to have fun and have to have a good self-control in order not to lose.

There is really no way amount of best strategies in the world that will make you not lose in gambling. Even the best professional gambler will lose some and win some. What professional gamblers does is divided into many sessions their bankroll and play a pre-bet according to their plans of executions. Hene, there are no emotions involved, only following the pre-bet system.
2733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: September 26, 2016, 06:55:35 PM
My strategy
1. Never be all in
2. always flat betting
3. don't bet the amount you can't lose
4. do deep research on sports.


Nice strategy. I don't believe you can significantly improve the chances of winning by doing a "deep research" on sports, but I agree with this on all the other points. The best part of your strategy IMO is the "don't bet the amount you can't lose" part. Anyone who will follow this advice will not regret gambling in the future.
With respect to the poster above you, that listed strategy is really good and should be followed by a certain gambler, but the flat betting is really hard to do, I think we need to be discipline enough to be able to do that, we cannot maintain flat betting especially when we are losing.

Thank you for your compliments. Just my many years betting experience, I male moneu from betting, especially sports betting, do deep research can give me more advantages and higher prediction rate. If you do flat betting, your winning rate is 55% in the long term, you can make decent money if your bankroll is large.

I know there is google but can you elaborate more about always flat betting strategy? Does it mean, no need to increase or decrease amount of bets and just bet the same amount of bets all of the time? Is this different with martingale strategy? I am really curious because it is really my first time to hear this strategy and interestingly it is being applied in sports betting which I do betting like once a week.
From where ever he picks this strategy no matter. But this is a good strategy. If we follow his method, then our losing chances in gambling will be reduced. Yes, all four points are perfect. My strategy also same I will never go All In and I like sports betting. If I don't know the sport, i will search that games in Google or Bitcoin discussion forum, and I will place my bet.

I agree with you that as long as you have a working strategies, you will do good with gambling just like the professional gamblers out there. What I was trying to ask was not where he get the strategy but I was asking to elaborate more the always flat betting. I wanna know it from the poster's own explanations about it.
2734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 26, 2016, 06:51:58 PM
playing gamble is really make us curious, we can do gambling for profit or just fun although i only play gambling for fun, but sometimes i wonder can i make profit too with playing gambling. but as long as i am playing gambling, i can only win in small amount because i don't make a high bet in gambling so i think i will stick with playing gambling as for fun and i really enjoy while i am playing gambling.

for me there's no need to win some money, but how we can enjoy the games, and no matter we got win or we loss, just enjoy the games and we can playing again in next week later.

Before, my reason for gambling was just out of curiosity as to what is it like to having bitcoins of your own. And then, as times passes by, my goal was to earn big profits from gambling (which proves that goal as wrong because I always keeps on losing from time to time) Until I was adopting some strategies - it does well and I am even always breaking even - at least I break even than losing it all like the majority of the new gamblers.
2735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 26, 2016, 06:49:17 PM
well i think gambling is makes me cry when i only got loss in everytime i make a bet, and i don't win at all. although i only make a small bet but it still makes me sad. but i hope in the next week when i am playing gambling again, i can make my winning for easy and i hope that i got a good luck when i make gambling and make some winning at the end.

You are right about hoping to earn when you get lucky. Winning on online of offline casinos are really based on luck and some professional gambler's strategies. But you know what, if you are just new to gambling and you aim to get lucky all the time, chances is you will just get disappointed when you are keeping on losing most of the time.
2736  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: September 26, 2016, 06:47:01 PM
Investing in altcoins is the best thing to do at a moment so if I have 10 btc with me without thinking twice I will go for altcoin trading and start making regular profits.

I'm afraid that you can just make decent regular profits if you have at least 10 btc or so, no?
I mean, what's there for a poor guy like me? Who can barely make a single BTC.

you are too pessimistic in thinking about your life, so that your mind is less supportive to you could grab it. Get rid of the thought that you could not do anything, and try to do something that could make you have the passion to fight and work hard with the extraordinary. Because without it then what you say is going to be something the real thing

Exactly and you won't be able to make profits anytime if you don't take risk, you need to take risks in order to enjoy higher rewards and with 10 btc you can surely achieve that.

With 10 btc, you can earn decently and securely when you even offer it for loan in poloniex and earn from interest rate fee to you. The percentage or interest rate is very high especially when there is pump and dump scenario in the said trading platform. Wherever the market and prices moves through trading, you will surely earns when someone get a loan from you and other people that offering their coins for loan.
2737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you want to become Rich you need to Put Higher bets on: September 26, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Is it really true that if someone want to earn big from gambling he need to make a higher bets? Yes he can also loose but if he is lucky enough he can earn big amounts too. People can not make profits with lower bet amounts like .05 etc. you need a higher amounts bets.
Lol, that is the fastest way to become poor, gamble for fun or entertainment and not for money, unless you are a professional gambler and you have a skill in a game that can be beaten by skill.

But even for professional gamblers still, depends on luck because there is no such thing called sure win gambling everybody guesses the end results based on some knowledge. So it is very dangerous to bet high amount to become rich in a faster way from gambling.
Correct, that is why if you are a professional gambler you should bet when you can overcome the house edge like in sports betting and as you said even then you may still lose.

You will eventually lose in gambling especially if you will never stop betting and exposing yourself for so long because casino house edge will hit you like a lightning with a thunder. Gambling sites are design for entertainment and for the owner to profit money otherwise, there will be no casinos around that is operating right now.
2738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: September 26, 2016, 06:41:55 PM
Hello guys I am addicted to gambling.How can I quit this?
Hello. There might be different ways to quit gambling but, as for me, you need to find something to replace gambling. Something that also involves some risk and enjoyment of victory. I think you need to take up some sport activity and try to become the best in it. Sport also involves risk of being damaged or of just losing the game and get excited if you win.
To find something else to do is the right choice, but I think replacing gambling is incorrect since you will just become addicted to this new activity, whichever it is, that is why is important to receive professional help in order to overcome the reasons that push you to become addicted to gambling.

the activity you choose as a replacement is important not the replacement itself. you should only choose an activity that is good for you and helps you grow not a bad addictive other activity.

for example that replacement can be excercising or some sports that is really good for your health and also good to forget about gambling.
I think you are missing my point even if you chose an activity that in theory is good for you, if you don’t get professional help you could get addicted to almost anything and any addiction is bad for you. For example exercising is good for you, but some people have become addicted to exercising and that has brought a lot of problems to their lives.
You have good point almost all if you abuse your self you will sick in the end so before it will happen do something to fix your life..
If you can control your self from being addicted you can gamble but for past time only not for making profit because it can trigger your self to be greed.

The main thought here is  everything  in this world is being abused would surely give  some bad effect on you thats why  we should  do things  moderately in able to balance . Self control would  be  a very big  help especially when you are playing gambling because  if you are aware with  your decisions and  good money management then you could surely  fight addictiveness on gambling.
Yes, moderation is key but for those already addicted to gambling or anything else, and active effort must be made in order to combat their addiction, if you can do it alone fine, but most people will need professional help.

That is right. When you think and know that you are a person that has no patience and cannot control yourself when you get emotional high or excited and when you are emotionally low or sad and depress, then better stay away form gambling because it will destroy your being. Better stay away and never ever attempt to bet or sorry.
2739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: September 26, 2016, 06:38:03 PM
gambling is almost difficult and not easy, but if you have some experience and skill in gambling then you can surely make good money in gambling and gambling will be  too easy for you.

For me, there are actually two people that will profit big and most of the time with gambling - they are first: 1. the lucky one and 2. the professional gamblers. The rest are just average and most of the time loses or just breaking even. Well, I know personally of a person that is very lucky when in terms to gambling and he just capitalize on it.
2740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 26, 2016, 06:35:17 PM
Gambling. Is It Wrong?
Sometimes
Sometimes?
There gamling not some wrong to do, this just game. But anythings looking be wrongs when people do it for wrong ways Smiley
So there like back again to yourself to did all.

It's not just a game, it's a money game, and money is one of the most valuable resources in human life, so people should be extremely cautious when money are involved, because life without money becomes extremely bad.

In short, if you really want to gamble whether be it for fun or something else, you must only use money that you can afford to lose otherwise, your financial will get affected and mess up even your relationship with friends and loved ones. Gambling should be treated as entertainment unless you want to be a professional gambler your entire life.
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