Length of post is a discretionary and judgement matter, in which each of comes a varying conclusions regarding how much we need to say or how much we feel we need to explain and/or what kinds of words to use.. or the tone, etc.  There could be some examples of long-winded, but really I do NOT know about what you speak.  You may conclude that my post is "long-winded" because you do NOT understand the significance of the language that is being used or maybe you do NOT agree with the contents, so instead of responding to the substance, you conclude that what was said was, "long-winded." 





I believe that was the main topic that we started with was my comment that it seemed inflammatory to be throwing out the term bulltard, when there may be better ways to express some of your ideas, to the extent that you may have substantive ideas, which I am beginning to have my doubts.








There seems to be quite a bit stream of consciousness going on here, and loose connections, and seems like you are getting a bit worked up over this, at least to the extent that your sentences are NOT really comprehensible in a self-contained manner, but hinge on a form of fill-in-the-blank puzzle.





You seem to be devolving into a status of wanting to argue, just for the sake of it... and even using the lines that I had used on you, directed towards me?  At least you could come up with something a little more substantive and/or original.









Again, you do NOT seem to be saying anything new, here.  You are merely taking the lines that I used that were directed towards you, and then directing the lines towards me.  Seems like you are running on pure emotion rather than reason.  Maybe on the positive shows that you are a human rather than a bot...?   And, if you are a bot, you are sure seeming to be an emotional one.. that is lashing out and grasping at straws....   

I know that there can be some unexpected needs for cash.. from time to time.  I am in the red on my BTC... since my average buy-in price is $600... Accordingly,  I attempt to have enough of a cash flow in fiat on reserve in various accounts.. so I do NOT have to sell BTC .. especially while I am in the red... however, i do understand that sometimes the situation could be forced for whatever reason or even seem to be the least of the evils (regarding which account should be cashed out).

Great set of practices!!!!   I was getting a little bit worried by what i perceived to be your bear talk.. even if it was merely a temporary state of affairs.

I remember reading about your selling $6k or something... b/c you "need it".. right before the green dildos...      Who the fuck knows really?  Except maybe a few insiders?

Oh.. and one more thing that is probably a psychological problem for you is that you seem to be viewing your interactions here on the interwebs as some kind of competition, including these recent posts with me.  There may be some posters who are competing, but I am NOT one of them..    So step back from the keyboard, sir, ma'am or bot!!!!!!   

Adam, I have been kind of waiting around and stalking the boards to see if you show up...

Does it mean that you were shorting and you were really serious about some of your low calls of $320 or whatever you were suggesting? 

Some suggest that BTC prices are going back there.. and surely many of us have our doubts, and can we really know what some of the whales have in store for us?  it is possible that prices will drift back down, or even go down quickly... who the fuck knows..  but hopefully, you really did NOT short in an attempt to eek out some extra profits with all of these uncertain indicators and the appearance that BTC prices are truly undervalued... even though we know that they can be further manipulated downward.. but will they be?  that is one of the BIG questions.

You are sounding a bit delusional,  paranoid and self-absorbed in your attempts to justify your supposed important claims about BTC price movements. 

I barely remember the June 2014 dialogue to which you referred, until you now cited it.

It is possible ChrisML was on to something when he referred to you as cuntface.. and it appears that I was laughing at the seemingly clever comment JimboToronto regarding the inappropriate degrading of a woman's genitals..... I cannot even recall if I agreed substantively with him about to whom the content was directed.. ... I suppose it is possible that I did... . but in the context of any of my comments today, I forgot about all of that until you just reminding me of such... so that previous comment did NOT affect my earlier comment today... but it does seem to establish that you have some preoccupations with pettiness... and potentially taking matters too personally... and that may explain your tendency to call names rather than to engage on a more meaningful level.... possibly mom's basement is getting a little too claustrophobic for you?   

NO.... I am the first!!!!    I invented the number 8,888, or at least I was the first to identify it in the wild.  

I suppose name calling is all a matter of degree, and it is almost as bad to call someone a bull as it is to call them a bulltard, but of course the term bulltard is more derogatory... that should be obvious.. .. and the higher the level of derrogatory-ness may cause more attention.. and of course, each of us may NOT closely read every post.. especially if the post is NOT initially directed towards us....

A similar  problem in my thinking would be to call someone a bear or a beartard, both are bad, but calling someone a beartard would be more derogatory..which also should seem obvious... and unnecessary.. no? except maybe rare circumstances...

I would think that it would be better to criticize someone's view by describing their actions or the subject of their posts or to suggest that they cannot see the facts correctly because they are scewed by bearish or bullish preconceptions..

Anyhow, frequently, in my humble bumble opinion, there are better ways to criticize poster for their ideas or the scewed nature of their ideas rather than to getting into name calling. or categorizing people... sometimes I may refer to some poster as a bot.. which I suppose is a bit derrogatory, but many times it is said in jest... I suppose a poster could be a bot-tard, and maybe that could be funny too, if it is NOT over used... or used as a distraction from their ideas... truly there are some ideas that are circulated in this thread that seem to be somewhat devoid of meaning.. and are robotic in nature.. and other ideas are fleshed out more thoroughly...

Level - because it is the safest bet.. when a person does NOT really have a strong belief either way...

I am just responding to your perceived need to Name-call.  I don't see it as necessary, except maybe under rare circumstances.

Sometimes I have been accused of name calling; however, I deny employing such tactics because I usually, instead, describe the idiocy of the behavior that I witness rather than calling names... Anyhow, it may be merely a personal choice regarding the extent to which you think that it is fruitful to engage in calling people "bulltards," even if you believe that their conduct rises to the level to meet such definition...

Like i said, in the end, it is your choice regarding how you want to communicate in a public thread (even if you happen to be posting under a pseudo-anonymous name, which a large majority of us are).

Why call anyone "bulltards"?  Makes little sense to me, because NO matter what the term is inaccurate, even if you attempt to define who is in such a camp and who is NOT... .. .. but whatever, you feel it is helpful to categorize some posters as bulltards, then I suppose that is your choice.   

I doubt this thread is ONLY useful or inviting to day traders.  Sounds a bit over the top. 

Also the fact that you refer to people who are bullish about BTC as "bulltards" demonstrates that you are lacking in some perspective regarding how you refer to people who may have a different perspective from you.

Even people who are bullish about the price direction of BTC may want to monitor this thread because they may want to continue to buy on dips and attempt to predict when those BTC price dips are going to occur based on ongoing market movements, news, TAs, FUD spreading, etc.

O.k.  I am going to go on a limb and make a bold prediction. 

Five days from this post (date and time), we are going above 8,888 pages in this thread, unless the post-dumpers go on a dumping rampage, for shits and giggles, then INEVITABLY they will NOT be able to dump beyond 8 days - therefore, the outside INEVITABILITY will be that this thread will go above 8,888 pages in 8 days from this post (date and time). 

You heard it here, first!!!   

NO matter what, SHROOMIE will find a reason to complain.   

HDBuck:    I realize that you are trying to maintain the image that you are NOT influenced by my prophetic posts, but really, dude, you stole all my idears, in your post.      I don't mind though, because I am a kind of charitable and sharing guy..    I cannot help myself like that.  

It's bullish that some articles are promoting the concept of shorting?  Some naive people may think, "oh, I can short BTC?  Maybe I should try that?" 

Which would really be stupid in my thinking for people to be shorting (or learning about shorting), now. 

Surely, there are a few of us, even in this thread that are probably contemplating shorting (or have already shorted around this price territory) b/c they believe BTC prices will go down somewhere between $50 and $350. 

I do NOT have enough confidence to even contemplate such.. and just like always, I feel fairly clueless about the short-term price direction of BTC.

One more point.

I came across this reddit article:  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2h6yl3/no_faith_in_bitcoin_profit_from_shorting_it/

 I found it very interesting that people are promoting some ideas about shorting BTC... which in principle would NOT be a bad idea, but getting involved in shorts NOW seems really looney.. .to suggest merely because BTC has  gone down in price for nearly 10 months that NOW would be a good time to learn about shorting.. or to get involved in shorting seems to be totally looney, in my thinking.

Thanks for que-ing that up Adam - to the Bitcoin section of Peter Schiff's discussion.  He talks such NON-sense out of his ass, but he attempts to make it sound so reasonable and measured.

Remember some of us began to believe that Peter Schiff  may have becoming more bullish on bitcoin  when his gold-selling website began to accept bitcoin as a measurement of payment.  Even though Peter attempts to frame that as merely practical, it does show a little supportive of the bitcoin infrastructure (even though he attempts to argue it as totally undermining bitcoin b/c he supposedly converts all of his received bitcoin into dollars, right away). 

In this video, Schiff does NOT exactly call any specific BTC bottom, but he asserts that the odds are pretty good that he is correct and BTC is on a downward slide, and he would NOT really feel comfortable gloating before BTC prices reach below $100, which he believes is going to happen sometime soon (without exactly specifying when).  Ultimately, a reasonable inference would be that Schiff is predicting NO more bubbles and NO more ATHs - though he does NOT assert that either.

Also, from his comments, a person would assume that Schiff would want to short BTC and/or to bet against it - though I have my doubts that he is doing that - even though he continues to trash-talk btc... Actually, sometimes when I listen to how knowledgeable that Schiff is about some of the market movements of BTC, I begin to think that maybe he has a stake in BTC or at least should take a hedging stake into BTC (just in case). 

Schiff is different from Jorge b/c at least Schiff is an investor in various assets - I don't know about whether Jorge invests in anything.. Maybe a 401k or stock index funds?

Pretty big personal sacrifice for Snowden to leak that information in order to shed light on some of the down and dirty of the government's actions.  Very rare person would be willing to make such an individual sacrifice.    One question remains, too, about whether we are better off as a society by knowing these kinds of things regarding governmental actions and the use of technology?  I am fairly certain that people wonder how secure that they are in their internet life, including bitcoin transactions, if the government has the potential ability to engage in ongoing monitoring of transactions... and we may NOT even know it.. and we may be an innocent target or we may be a fall guy because there could be guilt by association or guilt because we thought that we had free speech but we supported the wrong cause.. or we spoke up regarding governmental actions that we thought were misleading the people.  NOT easy to fairly effectively shed light on the underlying nefarious conduct that may be occurring by people who were elected or people who were appointed or people who were contracted out to carry out duties that were supposedly on behalf of "the people."