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September 24, 2014, 02:25:48 AM

With the paypal news, all those people with wallets collecting dust will probably want to buy some BTC just to test the waters. Coinbase will probably have a backlog of orders to fill. As long as we stay clear of further news/noise like bots, margin calls on long positions, ethereum sales, Alibaba, etc. maybe bitcoin will rediscover its bullish course. GABI also can play a positive role in new price discovery.
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Adam, I have been kind of waiting around and stalking the boards to see if you show up...

Does it mean that you were shorting and you were really serious about some of your low calls of $320 or whatever you were suggesting? 

Some suggest that BTC prices are going back there.. and surely many of us have our doubts, and can we really know what some of the whales have in store for us?  it is possible that prices will drift back down, or even go down quickly... who the fuck knows..  but hopefully, you really did NOT short in an attempt to eek out some extra profits with all of these uncertain indicators and the appearance that BTC prices are truly undervalued... even though we know that they can be further manipulated downward.. but will they be?  that is one of the BIG questions.
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September 24, 2014, 02:32:14 AM

lol yeah he must get the award for worst timing trade haha.

Shorts are still over 10.5k, there's strong bid support, bears still think it's going down, things are looking good  Grin

many people feel we still need to revisit low 360 ish territory and maybe crash through, I don't see a need in it...besides bears being negative to the year of forward progress in the fundamentals.

Its not btc its ltc that needs to test $2 breakout. I said $2.50ish and we never hit btce crash doesnt count.
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I'm outta here

Oh.. and one more thing that is probably a psychological problem for you is that you seem to be viewing your interactions here on the interwebs as some kind of competition, including these recent posts with me.  There may be some posters who are competing, but I am NOT one of them..    So step back from the keyboard, sir, ma'am or bot!!!!!!   Cheesy
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September 24, 2014, 02:41:26 AM

With the paypal news, all those people with wallets collecting dust will probably want to buy some BTC just to test the waters. Coinbase will probably have a backlog of orders to fill. As long as we stay clear of further news/noise like bots, margin calls on long positions, ethereum sales, Alibaba, etc. maybe bitcoin will rediscover its bullish course. GABI also can play a positive role in new price discovery.

Yes, we need more people to come in, and more margin facilities to be available to play effectively with the whales. Otherwise, we will always be led by them.
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September 24, 2014, 02:44:07 AM

YOU KNOW WHAT CAUSED THIS?

I FUCKING SOLD 15 LAST NIGHT THATS WHAT CAUSED THIS

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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September 24, 2014, 02:47:18 AM

YOU KNOW WHAT CAUSED THIS?

I FUCKING SOLD 15 LAST NIGHT THATS WHAT CAUSED THIS

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK



I remember reading about your selling $6k or something... b/c you "need it".. right before the green dildos...      Who the fuck knows really?  Except maybe a few insiders?
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September 24, 2014, 02:55:50 AM




Adam, I have been kind of waiting around and stalking the boards to see if you show up...

Does it mean that you were shorting and you were really serious about some of your low calls of $320 or whatever you were suggesting? 

Some suggest that BTC prices are going back there.. and surely many of us have our doubts, and can we really know what some of the whales have in store for us?  it is possible that prices will drift back down, or even go down quickly... who the fuck knows..  but hopefully, you really did NOT short in an attempt to eek out some extra profits with all of these uncertain indicators and the appearance that BTC prices are truly undervalued... even though we know that they can be further manipulated downward.. but will they be?  that is one of the BIG questions.

i never short, never ever...  I have a long term position, do some mid term trades, and sometimes i even start working the daily spread... but i never play with leverage, if i wanted to risk more fiat or BTC trading, i'd simply send more fait or BTC.

so no i did not short, and i never will.

I didn't sell either, it didn't even cross my mind, I believe bitcoin is undervalued, I believed bitcoin was undervalued sub 600, and i still believe it, but just because its undervalued doesn't mean its not going to go any lower...

I think she's been manipulated down as far as she goes, but who knows!

mostly i sent some more money to the exchange for the off chance that shit hits the fan, short of that, i will use it to balance my book when making purchases, selling bitcions to friends, etc etc. also and probably start working the daily spread for fun, and buying into large dips.

the way i see it, every little bit helps  especially at bottoms, and when bitches dump like mad fools, its my duty to catch the resulting knife.

because i want to be the change i want to see

drop your bags bitches!
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September 24, 2014, 02:56:32 AM

YOU KNOW WHAT CAUSED THIS?

I FUCKING SOLD 15 LAST NIGHT THATS WHAT CAUSED THIS

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK



I remember reading about your selling $6k or something... b/c you "need it".. right before the green dildos...      Who the fuck knows really?  Except maybe a few insiders?

Yeah my wife needs knee surgery. Nothing urgent but just figured I'd put the money in the bank now because it'll be in the next week, I could have liquidated some of my brokerage account + lost money on exchange rate + fees, wired from the UK + lost money on exchange rate + fees, or sold btc on LBC.

Selling on LBC I get bitstamp rate here, so I figured fuck it. Probably was just gonna go sideways for another few weeks until I had the chance to buy them back.

Already regretting it.
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September 24, 2014, 03:00:22 AM

Upward momentum is back for btc.
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September 24, 2014, 03:02:51 AM

Bitcoin core wallet is not working for anybody else???

It's just loading and says verifying blocks?
What is this useless shit?
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Bitcoin core wallet is not working for anybody else???

It's just loading and says verifying blocks?
What is this useless shit?

people still use BitcoinQt?
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September 24, 2014, 03:09:30 AM

Party's over... dump dump dump  Grin Grin Grin

Only people with coins can dump Smiley

Nope, i just took a dump Wink

Ha. True.

In other news we can expect the bears to start posting something, anything to encourage others to sell Smiley
Not sure wtf these guys are talking about..
If you're one of the bulltards, then you should just click that logout button and come back when btc is worth $10k...
Can't understand why these guys argue with people who trade everyday.. LOL

I doubt this thread is ONLY useful or inviting to day traders.  Sounds a bit over the top.  

Also the fact that you refer to people who are bullish about BTC as "bulltards" demonstrates that you are lacking in some perspective regarding how you refer to people who may have a different perspective from you.

Even people who are bullish about the price direction of BTC may want to monitor this thread because they may want to continue to buy on dips and attempt to predict when those BTC price dips are going to occur based on ongoing market movements, news, TAs, FUD spreading, etc.

So, where did I say that those bullish about btc are bulltards? Stop making stories..  Roll Eyes
For me, bulltards are those  who attack people when they say something like btc is going down and they think that the price should just shoot straight up.
And bullish are people who believe in bitcoin;s future and they aren't affected by these dumps .

Why call anyone "bulltards"?  Makes little sense to me, because NO matter what the term is inaccurate, even if you attempt to define who is in such a camp and who is NOT... .. .. but whatever, you feel it is helpful to categorize some posters as bulltards, then I suppose that is your choice.    Embarrassed

Why call them bulltards? Because they behave like retarded bulls.  Tongue
I searched what a "bulltard" is and here's what I found:
-a bull tard is person who is both retarded* and extremely aggressive. Often possesses "tard strength." This person would rather fight you than talk it out; would rather use violence than intellect
-An idiot who thinks that stock markets always rise.

From that, I could say, my own definition of "bulltard" is not far from what others think what a bulltard is.
I don't even understand why you're being affected with my post  Roll Eyes



I am just responding to your perceived need to Name-call.  I don't see it as necessary, except maybe under rare circumstances.

Sometimes I have been accused of name calling; however, I deny employing such tactics because I usually, instead, describe the idiocy of the behavior that I witness rather than calling names... Anyhow, it may be merely a personal choice regarding the extent to which you think that it is fruitful to engage in calling people "bulltards," even if you believe that their conduct rises to the level to meet such definition...

Like i said, in the end, it is your choice regarding how you want to communicate in a public thread (even if you happen to be posting under a pseudo-anonymous name, which a large majority of us are).

So who among us started name-calling? Why didn't you react when he said "bear"?
From his post "expect the bears to start posting something, anything to encourage others to sell", I could clearly say he's one of the "bulltards". And I could feel the sarcasm in his post.
A normal person who uses his brain would usually ask the poster "why" he think the price would go down.
And a bulltard would just call people a "bear" and most would resort to personal attacks.



I suppose name calling is all a matter of degree, and it is almost as bad to call someone a bull as it is to call them a bulltard, but of course the term bulltard is more derogatory... that should be obvious.. .. and the higher the level of derrogatory-ness may cause more attention.. and of course, each of us may NOT closely read every post.. especially if the post is NOT initially directed towards us....

A similar  problem in my thinking would be to call someone a bear or a beartard, both are bad, but calling someone a beartard would be more derogatory..which also should seem obvious... and unnecessary.. no? except maybe rare circumstances...

I would think that it would be better to criticize someone's view by describing their actions or the subject of their posts or to suggest that they cannot see the facts correctly because they are scewed by bearish or bullish preconceptions..

Anyhow, frequently, in my humble bumble opinion, there are better ways to criticize poster for their ideas or the scewed nature of their ideas rather than to getting into name calling. or categorizing people... sometimes I may refer to some poster as a bot.. which I suppose is a bit derrogatory, but many times it is said in jest... I suppose a poster could be a bot-tard, and maybe that could be funny too, if it is NOT over used... or used as a distraction from their ideas... truly there are some ideas that are circulated in this thread that seem to be somewhat devoid of meaning.. and are robotic in nature.. and other ideas are fleshed out more thoroughly...
Ah! So you're trying to be the Guidance Counselor/prefect of discipline in this thread? The righteous one who protect the oppressed? How come I didn't see you protecting me when this guy called me cuntface. I don't think you didn't see what he posted. Roll Eyes

I guess that post explains why you reacted with the word "bulltard"

Heh! I just said "570s" which is the price of btc at that time and someone called me cuntface and the O righteous one joined the bulltards..  Grin Grin Grin


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You are sounding a bit delusional,  paranoid and self-absorbed in your attempts to justify your supposed important claims about BTC price movements.  
Nope. If I am, I would have posted long winded post explaining it like what you do  Roll Eyes
And aren't we talking about the "bulltard" thingy and about the "name calling"  Roll Eyes
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I barely remember the June 2014 dialogue to which you referred, until you now cited it.

It is possible ChrisML was on to something when he referred to you as cuntface.. and it appears that I was laughing at the seemingly clever comment JimboToronto regarding the inappropriate degrading of a woman's genitals..... I cannot even recall if I agreed substantively with him about to whom the content was directed.. ... I suppose it is possible that I did... . but in the context of any of my comments today, I forgot about all of that until you just reminding me of such... so that previous comment did NOT affect my earlier comment today... but it does seem to establish that you have some preoccupations with pettiness... and potentially taking matters too personally... and that may explain your tendency to call names rather than to engage on a more meaningful level.... possibly mom's basement is getting a little too claustrophobic for you?  
Deny all you want.. heh! Birds of the same feather flocks together they say..  Roll Eyes
I called someone bulltard, he came out like a hero protecting his fellow bulltard... Someone called me cuntface and loser for posting bitcoin's price, he joins the bulltards.. haha and he pretends he dislike name-calling in this thread..  Roll Eyes
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That goes back to you.. LOL! I'm not even talking to you when you pop out like a mushroom. Seems like I hurt your feelings when I said "THOSE bulltards"  Roll Eyes
Possibly mom's basement is getting a little too claustrophobic for you...  Roll Eyes

 
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Oh.. and one more thing that is probably a psychological problem for you is that you seem to be viewing your interactions here on the interwebs as some kind of competition, including these recent posts with me.  There may be some posters who are competing, but I am NOT one of them..    So step back from the keyboard, sir, ma'am or bot!!!!!!   Cheesy
Heh I posted that when I got bored waiting for a reply  Roll Eyes I can't believe you'd even say something about that... I guess that is probably a psychological problem for you... LOL!
You step away from the keyboard bulltard...  Roll Eyes
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September 24, 2014, 03:10:34 AM

Give it a few minutes? Varies based on your hardware but mine always takes 30 secs to load.

Still running 4 full nodes here.
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September 24, 2014, 03:12:10 AM

Bitcoin core wallet is not working for anybody else???

It's just loading and says verifying blocks?
What is this useless shit?

people still use BitcoinQt?

I do  Cheesy
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September 24, 2014, 03:12:43 AM

Bitcoin core wallet is not working for anybody else???

It's just loading and says verifying blocks?
What is this useless shit?

people still use BitcoinQt?

I do  Cheesy

its my understanding that  using this kind of wallet makes you a full node on the network. heavy duty shit...

I just work with my paperwallets and blockchain.info JS wallet.

no headaches.
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September 24, 2014, 03:14:39 AM

I don't understand the other wallets, they got to much confusing shit in them
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September 24, 2014, 03:19:47 AM

I don't understand the other wallets, they got to much confusing shit in them

You should just learn to use electrum or blockchain.info wallet (which is really really basic as long as you don't use the advanced features). Running a full node just to make BTC transactions is a bitch. If you're going to run a full node keep it up as close to 24/7 as possible to support the network, otherwise you should save yourself the headache Tongue
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