^^^ If anyone would like an classic example of 'dogma', here it is ^^^

It's also antithetical to the concept of 'science'.  This guy exhibits exactly what the school system is designed to teach.  The public school systems are not failing.  They are, in fact, succeeding behind the wildest dreams of the people who fund and who designed them.

It's amazingly profitable to get 80% of a population taking prescription drugs, particularly when there is no limit to what can be charged for many of them thanks to the magic of lobbying.

Not completely.  There are other deeper philosophical reason involved.  Ask almost anyone if they think planet earth (aka, 'mother gaia') has an overpopulation (of humans) problem and they'll say 'yes', but it's especially the case for those having dynastic wealth.  The money part is the primary component which lubricates all of the moving parts of the whole process though.  The fact overpopulation is a quasi-religious issue for those who happen to have control of the money supply is why the vaccine 'loss leader' has such traction.


Sure.  Most of these illnesses had dropped to very low numbers before the vaccine was even introduced.  Not only that but getting something like measles and staying home from school for a few days confers life-long immunity which is passed to a breastfeeding infant in their first year while they are vulnerable.  Vaccines 'immunity' gives neither of these features and as a result the natural ecology of these mild right-of-passage ailments (chicken-pox, mumps, measles, rubella, etc) has become totally messed up.

Any 'scientist' or 'doctor' with a few hours to kill can understand these phenomenon.  It looks to me as though what Joe Sixpack considers a problem (e.g., a life-long debilitating medical condition) is not considered as such by TPTB.  In other words, the autoimmune conditions that vaccines create "is not a bug; it's a feature."

I've never seen any discussion from the pharma industry about why the need to inject human cells and human DNA from someone else into people and what other options might exist to overcome whatever problem they are working one.

Recently it was found that Jeffery Epstein has some program going to seed his DNA into future generations and had some sort of a weird breeder ranch thing in New Mexico used for this purpose.  Epstein was rather well integrated with persons at all levels of our government and also with various celebrity-scientists who visited his ranch and had conversations with him.  I really have to wonder if some of the human DNA stuff they are trying to mandate that everyone in the world be injected with has something to do with the cult that the real powers-that-be who hold seats on the boards of directors of some of these corporations belong to.

A frank discussion of the technology would (or at least has the potential to) explain this DNA mixing that 'they' are trying to do.  Most people will be perfectly comfortable to be injected with whatever some powerful group says they need as evidenced by the comments from so many people on this forum.  A small percentage of us 'crazies' would like to know more before we let them stick a needle into our kid's arm.

Put numbers on this stuff if you want people to take it seriously.  You know:  like "5000 per 100,000 prior to widespread use of the vaccine"

When I look at this stuff, the rates of, say, mortality for measles is amazingly low, both historically and now.  On the other hand, half of the kids in America are now on prescription meds.  That's 50,000 per 100,000.

All of the so-called 'medical professionals' who know for sure that the vaccines have nothing to do with the rate of, say, allergies and auto-immunity issues claim they have no idea what's causing the alarming rates.  The only thing they seem to 'know' is that vaccines have absolutely nothing to do with it.  When you dig into it you find that studies demonstrating safety are just flat out missing, or showed a problem and were covered up much of the time.  Almost without exception the money for what purposefully defective studies do exist comes from big pharma by one route or another.  Often through 'grants' to academic institutions.

What are you talking about?  Everyone knows that MBS had it done by a team of his men and it was 'strongly suggested' that he was in real-time contact as the event was taking place.  MBS wanted the world (and in particular, his enemies) to know and they practically advertised in detail which left relatively little to the imagination what went down in the first few days with the help of the Kushner team and certain U.S. Congressmen.

This isn't some sort of a blemish on MBS's record although it did probably cause a few minor political complications.  What it is is like when a fighter pilot paints a mark on his plane for every one to look at.  It's also not a 'crime' in any practical sense of the word.  People like MBS don't commit 'crimes'.

Last I heard they knocked out Khashoggi before they started to saw him up if the transcripts are to be believed.  That surprised me.  The Saudis are big into dismemberment but usually they do it while the target is fully conscious in order to enhance to level of terror.

Houthi Rebels Take over 2,000 Saudi Prisoners" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rehaeyZRI28

Ba-hahaha.

This from Woodrow Wilson under who's watch we got the so-called 'Federal' reserve, and who also got us into 'The Great War.'  You know; the one which resulted implementation of the Balfore Declaration and the 'return' of the so-called 'Jews' to the so-called 'promised land.'


Logic kind of implies that Wilson's friends were referring to the international banking cartel and the relatively few people who operate them.  It's getting illegal here in the U.S. to imply that, say, the Rothschild dynasty might have anything to do with international banking so I guess we'll never know.  Oh well <shrug>.

I think I know what you mean.  For some reason people have a visceral fear of saying anything which is even possibly at all negative about anyone who might be in any way associated with 'Jews'.  Most people who live in any large city in the U.S., or who watch a lot of television, get a jolt of terror when such a thing happens.

It's an interesting phenomenon.  People have the same reaction that slugs have to salt when certain topics are broached.  I used to get have myself but it wore off after a few years of living in an electromagnetically quite area researching reality.

It's actually fairly absurd to be terrified to even repeat things that a certain group teaches quite openly for fear of .  But the U.S. is on the cusp of making it arbitrarily and nebulously illegal in a formal manner under 'antisemitism' laws promoted heavily by Espstein's special friends.  That means that real living breathing thought police (or automated robots) could come to your real door, break it down, and haul you away for 'badthink' and not giving certain chosen people an appropriate level of respect and support.

It would be a welcome new rule if it is one.  Normally 'self-moderation' is used by people who have an agenda of some sort and who want to control others so that they don't interfere with the hidden planning and scheming.

More and more people are shocked and chagrined that they cannot just present a particular viewpoint or 'fact' and not have it go unchallenged.  'self-moderation' is the most obvious solution to this 'problem'.

Generally speaking, someone who wants to self-moderate is better off with their own web-site.  Hijacking someone elses' more popular platform and taking full control of a little piece of it (e.g., 'your' thread) is kind of pathetic.

The sense I get from most of these earth-is-gonna-die eco types is "There is just the right number of me and way to many of you."  They can make careers out of trying to figure out how to stop the darkies from breeding and often they do.

The problem with 'over populations' is that people get what they need to survive.  Total spend is cost/head * heads.  Twice as many heads means half the profit from one's pineapple plantations.  You can reduce the cost/head, but you get closer and closer to revolt then you have to spend a lot on paramilitary operations and the like.

Kissinger('s people) captured it pretty well in NSSM 200  From wikipedia:


It would be a good idea for the 13 countries who were specifically named as targets in the above memorandum to pay particular attention the the vaccines that the cooperating agencies (UN, USAID, etc) are bringing in, though it looks like their efforts on the 'injection' side of things have been adopted for world-wide use.  The nature of the effects they have on differing populations is adjusted accordingly.  In the U.S., for instance, giving people non-lethal ailments requiring life-long prescription drug use makes sense because the peeps have money to shake out where in less wealthy countries there is not point.  Just sterilize them or get them to die off quickly.

By the way, the reason why so many people can make a pretty good living working on depopulation programs of various sorts is that the likes of Kissinger are behind it.  Money is not one of the resources that his class lack...and they have a set of ethics which propels them forward rather than holds them back when it comes to eugenical implementations.

I mean that Americans cannot fathom that people could be so bad as to deliberately sicken other people.  Even tough examples like the Sackler family with their valium->oxyconten->fentanyl franchise are outed in reasonably clear (if still redacted) form, they still hold to the basic assumption that demons don't exist.  Those few who do live in trailer parks, and certainly are not the people who rule over them.

Perhaps if they got kicked in the balls more by their own class they would not have such a hard time accepting that people can be ball kickers.  And thus, of course, would be better prepared to recognize and confront their assailants.

This failure to recognize evil is what I consider 'blowback' from an educational and societal framework with rejects evil in the same way the proverbial ostrich rejects danger.

I'm unconvinced that there is a problem here.  Perhaps Gunnery Sargent Hartmann has a perfectly good solution supposed problem: https://youtu.be/5NP8y63Ms4o?t=40

  Hartmann: Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate it is an unlocked footlocker.  You know that don't you?

  Pyle:  Sir, yes sir!

  Hartmann:  If it wasn't for dickheads like you there wouldn't be any thievery in this world would there?

Could it be that all we are doing in striving for a utopia where everyone is honest and no-one takes advantage of another is creating simpleton sheep who are easier for the powers that be to shear?

Would we have a 'stronger' society if we accepted as normal that people are by nature somewhat exploitative and almost always seeking advantage?  Such behavior is probably hard-wired in as a survival mechanism and trying to 'solve' it is a Sisyphean task which carries a very real risk of horrific unintended blow-back.

Could some of the problems that my country (the United States) faces right now are in part somewhat illustrative of such blow-back?

Some will, some won't.  I, for instance, was a vaccine proponent before I started to study the science behind them.  Even earlier in this thread I can be caught towing the party line on the miracle of vaccines 'stopping polio'.  Now, after hundreds of hours of research I see how I was so ignorant back in the day.

Same thing happened with 'global climate change', but even more-so.

If someone steals from you, is it ethical to steal the money back?

Of course one 'should' go to the cops or court system, but what if the rich people who stole from you own the cops and the court system and it would be pointless (and possibly dangerous) to seek relief from them?

I suppose that one could argue that the peeps should 'vote harder' if they live in a democracy, but what if the rich people own the political system and will not allow any changes?  Revolution?  That would be absolutely dangerous, and likely to result in an even worse situation vis-a-vis theft.

These are not actually theoretical problems that people face.  In fact they are probably more common than not.  The most practical thing to do is to sit there and suck it, and that's exactly what most people do.  Those who do 'steal it back' seem to tend to get side-tracked and steal from those who didn't steal from them in the first place because they are more practical targets.

The Philippines where I am now is funny about these things.  I'm property searching at the moment.  I don't think that anyone has yet told me the truth about property lines for instance.  Just today someone tried to tell me that capital gains tax was 10% higher than it actually is.

What is funny to me is that people are so stupid about lying and cheating.  Most populations are bright enough (or something) not to lie about things which are almost certain to be discovered.  Not Filipinos.  Half the time I already knew the answer before asking the question, and the other half I planned to (and did) find out the facts before laying any money down.  I just validate things a lot more and make sure that everything is done in such a way that the seller could not make money by cheating me.  Most Filipinos don't have money for attorneys, or at least don't choose to allocate money in that way, so I guess they don't imagine that the other party would have one.  Of course attorneys themselves are not above cheating and are hardly the most reliable people either so they must be watched and double-checked as well.

All this stuff is just part of learning a new country and culture from the inside.  It's kind of fun actually.  At least the challenges are entertaining.  Like I say, the people are so inept at being dishonest that it's relatively easy to avoid being cheated.  The real danger is that the criminals are every bit as stupid.  You cannot count on one of them recognizing that doing a real crime against you will result in their own certain death or imprisonment.  They simply do not or can not think that far ahead.  To protect yourself you need to think differently than in a place like the U.S..

Filipinos are amazingly suspicious of their own countrymen, and especially if the person is from a different part of the country.  I can now see why.  Many/most Filipinos live relatively safely because they really don't have much to lose to someone else.  Most people who do choose (wisely) to lives in a gated and guarded community.

Um...you meant to say 'physics' right Mr. Science?

I know of no 'climate denier' who thinks that the earth is flat.  'Flat Earth' is a psy-op developed specifically to associate with people who don't go along with the corp/gov line on such things as 'global warming', 'vaccines', etc.

Here's the kind of fraud that 'high school' level science buffs fall for complements of Bill Nye the propaganda guy:

  https://wattsupwiththat.com/gore-and-bill-nye-fail-at-doing-a-simple-co2-experiment/

I loved Nye's excuse I saw down in the comments.  What a fuckin' loser.

That is technically true with Polio.  More cases of paralytic polio are of the vaccine strain than wild strain polio now.  It is possible to argue that 'Yeah, but if the vaccine program did not exist then there would be far more wild strain than what currently exists now.'  OK, fine.  It could well be true but I want to see valid studies which prove this and which prove the premises upon which the suggestion is built rather than hand-waving assertions by the those being paid off by profits from the pharma sector.

The real problem is that they are badly warping the ecology associated with the illnesses the vaccines target in many cases.  Vaccines have some serious flaws compared to natural illness.  Specifically that they don't confer life-long immunity, and immunity is not passed from mother-to-child in the first year as is the case with many of these illnesses when caught naturally by a mother when she was a kid.

What they have done is to force the illness into an older cohort so that 'right-of-passage' things we all used to get like mumps which are trivial in childhood are now being caught by older people when they tend to be actually threatening.  And they also leave the infants vulnerable even if they are breast feeding.  In the case of measles and mumps they have totally fucked up the ecology and since the initial promise of long duration immunity was a lie, they now want everyone to get boosters for the rest of their lives.

Probably more people will die in auto accidents on their way to their monthly vaccine booster shots then ever did back in the day when we all used to get these trivial things and miss a few days of school.

One of the most pernicious harms is that in order to cover their asses, and protect their profits, the whole industry (including the so-called 'regulatory agencies') are pumping out propaganda, lies and junk science and setting the whole field of medical science on a backslide.  How long before they bring back bloodletting?

For FREEEEE.  Whoooopeeee!

Remember:

  "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product."

Nowhere is this more true than in the vaccine 'franchise'.  The vaccine producers know that if they give even a modest percentage of victims some awful non-curable disease requiring palliative care, the bigger their bottom line.  And Big Pharam's bottom line is huge with 50% of KIDS on overpriced prescription meds of some sort.  The longer a sick person is dragged out before they kick the bucket and stop paying for meds, the more profit the medical/industrial complex makes.

Hey, it's the 'free market', bitches!  Corporations are mandated by law to maximize shareholder profit, and the people who sit on the boards of directors tend to think that there are to many useless eaters running around anyway.  The herd doesn't breed right without proper management, and they've not yet figured out a 'sustainable' breeding regime for the herd.

Be ready for one of the KNOW, ADMITTED side effects of your average flu shot.  Under the 'informed consent' principle they still have to make the info available, but they don't have to make it easy to find.  They know damn well that not one person in 100 will find the insert, read it, and understand it.  They know this because they also have had control of the school system for a century and they've gotten most people poisoned that retardified already by some combination of programs.

From:  https://www.globalresearch.ca/flu-shot-hoax-admitted-no-controlled-trials-demonstrating-a-decrease-in-influenza/5427871

• Blood and Lymphatic System Disorders: Lymphadenopathy.
• Eye Disorders: Eye pain, photophobia.
• Gastrointestinal Disorders: Dysphagia.
• General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions: Chest pain, injection site inflammation, asthenia, injection site rash, abnormal gait, injection site bruising, injection site sterile abscess.
• Immune System Disorders: Allergic reactions including anaphylaxis, angioedema.
• Infections and Infestations: Rhinitis, laryngitis, cellulitis.
• Musculoskeletal and Connective Tissue Disorders: Muscle weakness, arthritis.
• Nervous System Disorders: Dizziness, paresthesia, hypoesthesia, hypokinesia, tremor, somnolence, syncope, Guillain-Barre syndrome, convulsions/seizures, facial or cranial nerve paralysis, encephalopathy, limb paralysis.
• Psychiatric Disorders: Insomnia.
• Respiratory, Thoracic, and Mediastinal Disorders: Dyspnea, dysphonia, bronchospasm, throat tightness.
• kin and Subcutaneous Tissue Disorders: Urticaria, pruritus, sweating.
• ascular Disorders: Flushing, pallor.

To add insult to injury, in this insert they also say that they've not studied the effects on fertility and don't have any studies showing that the vaccine is even effective at stopping the flu in kids!  Read it!

I'm a straight-up atheist.

A certain small segment of the medical and scientific community thought they'd 'play God' and eliminate measles (a benign right-of-passage childhood ailment which everybody got almost never caused any problems.)  This they did "because they could."  Everything they claimed to think they could do was wrong and now we've got a totally screwed up ecological balance.

The fundamental tenant of ecology is "You can never do just one thing."  Playing God often results in tears.  Literature is filled with it...both fiction and non-fiction.  Leaving things alone when possible is not some spiritual purist belief as much as it is a practical strategy born of the school of hard knocks.

The real problem is that a totally screwed up ecology which requires every person to visit a clinic for their monthly 'booster shots' is, to Big Pharma and the socialists who desire ever tightening government control over every member of society, not a bug.  It's a feature!