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1821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 03, 2020, 06:25:45 AM
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I got sick as fuck this summer.. Maybe I had it..
I want an antibodies test..

If you had a coronavirus based common cold within the last few years you'll likely come up hot for so-called 'covid-19' on an antibody test.  And if you had such an infection, even if it was so mild that you didn't even know it, you probably cannot catch 'SARS-CoV-2' even if you tried.

I have tried to catch SARS-CoV-2 just going out and about and touching things.  Hard to know if I succeeded or not because it is so mild for most people that they don't know they had it.  And none of the so-called 'covid-19' test are reliable at all so even if I did want to get ripped off on such a test it would not tell me anything useful.

This thing would be totally laughable charade but for the fact that they used it to ruin millions of people's lives and small businesses and the like.  I suspect that the carnage is only the start of what these people have planned in part because they have written about what they 'need' to do for a long time and it isn't pretty.

My best guess is that there really is a 'SARS-CoV-2', it is a virus, and it does contain some 'gain of function' research.  Probably this research did happen in Wuhan, but under funding and guidance of entities including evil dwarf Fausti's NIAIA when they were banned from doing the research within CONUS.  https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/faucis-niaid-gave-3-7-million-to-wuhan-lab-to-study-coronavirus-in-bats-ben-swann-investigates/  Fortunately it seems that 'this one' would be tuned mostly to manipulate some of it's propagation parameters and not it's actual lethality.  Or else they tried to make it worse than the common cold and failed.

But fear not.  Bill Gates and his wife-thing promises a newer and better one to appear soon.

1822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 03, 2020, 02:39:02 AM
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Lol. So the scientists and doctors in favor of vaccines are "bureaucrats with questionable financial arrangements", but those against vaccines have "impeccable credentials". Confirmation bias much?

That's what the objective facts look like to me.

You are pretty typical of a 'covid-19 believer'.  A 'professional' and 'expert' who won't even use his real name when providing medical advice.

I'll stick with getting information from people like Wodarg, Ioannidis, Yeadon, who have names and reputations.  I'll avoid nameless 'experts say' types alluded to by the mainstream media or jackoffs on message boards who claim to be busy doctors while 'helping' people move BTC around.

1823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK? on: December 02, 2020, 06:45:16 PM
The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?), I have chinese friends who told me even in late summer that life is back to normal back then, no lockdowns or any bans on activities, nobody's talking about the virus or vaccine anymore.
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Wuhan back in August celebrating their victory over covid-19...





...or are they celebrating their part in a successful psy-op to get the (very very willing) Western countries to shut down their economic activity.  They are going gangbusters now so I hear.  Apparently that was their pay-off by the globalists (who have their financial capital moved over to China by this time so it is in their interest that the nation thrives...for the next cycle until they suck this host dry as well.)

The footage from Wuhan seemed HIGHLY suspect to me back at the start of this thing.  Why are we not seeing anyone esle litterally 'dropping dead' in the streets like we did there?  The really telling thing was when one of their fearless CCP leaders was touring and the locked-in residents of a giant stack-n-pack apartment complex were shouting 'HOAX!' from their windows.

1824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 06:26:03 PM
If a person has a decade of engineering experience, no one will have a second thought about going into a building they designed.

I will.  Even within the realm of civil engineering, a career centered around, say, designing road systems will not be all that useful in the task of designing a building.  Beyond that, 'a decade' sounds like a big deal, but it really isn't.  It's about five two-year projects and unless the guy is a real hot-shot he/she will probably have been fairly junior on many or all of them.  Probably without even holding a PE for some.

Why are so many people questioning the decades of experience of these infection experts?

The most notable 'experts' I can think of on the 'covid-19 is real' side are a career bureaucrat with questionable financial arrangements (Dr. Fausti) and a gaggle of celebrity doctors such as Gupta.  Throw in a few people who used to work with and for Gates in his other organizations before they worked for his WHO organization.  Tedros and that creepy Irish guy.

Even ultra-vaxxers such as Hoetez and Offit are getting cold feet on what's shaping up as the covid 'vaccine', and it seems to me that it's because they know that the carnage from this one won't be able to be swept under the carpet.  Both of these two probably are quite aware of what vaccines are actually doing to 'the nations'.

On the other hand, more and more doctors, scientists, etc with impeccable credential are coming forward saying, some times in so many words, that this thing is a fraud.  Generally they are a little less blunt, but not a lot.  As of the last few months they are being censored like crazy by the like of Google and Facebook in a desperate attempt to 'control the narrative.'  These honorable folks tend to bend over backward to provide clear and complete data in sharp contrast to the covid hoax pushers.

As usual, one has to ask what is the benefit either financial or professionally for a career doctor, scientist, or academic to go against the grain?  There really is none in almost any case.  It's pretty much suicidal for a career or a pocketbook.  Seems to me that a lot of them are realizing that a career in the 'new normal' version of scientism is not even worth preserving.

1825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 03:59:38 PM
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i personally will wait for further data on the effectiveness, but i dont fear the vaccine causing harm. just think

Logic dictates that if you are not worried about harm, there is no reason to wait.  Why don't you signal your virtue and get as many vaccines as you can in the interest of helping science and humanity?

logic dictates that a vaccine of 10-80% is better than nothing for the extreme vulnerable. and with limited supply for january. let the vulnerable have that chance

Lol.  Nice try.  There are about 100 million Americans (and growing) who see how this scam is going down would be more than happy for you to take their share.

1826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 01:15:59 PM
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i personally will wait for further data on the effectiveness, but i dont fear the vaccine causing harm. just think

Logic dictates that if you are not worried about harm, there is no reason to wait.  Why don't you signal your virtue and get as many vaccines as you can in the interest of helping science and humanity?

1827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 06:55:36 AM
Ignorant people believe in gods, aliens and conspiracy theories.  ...

By definition it is impossible to 'believe' a 'theory'.  Upon doing so it changes from a theory to a fact.

and there lays the problem
idiots call the theories facts by believing in them.
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So what?  Freedom is the ability to believe whatever you want.

When you outlaw 'wrong ideas' it becomes a 'fact' that the sun revolves around the earth because it is the only idea which is allowed to exist.  Only 'idiots' believe something other than what the authorities mandate as a 'fact'.

Back in the day the king didn't like the irksome .1415... part of pi so he mandated that the ratio of the circumference of circle to it's diameter was 3.  Period.  End of story.  It set back architecture and engineering by a fair bit.

1828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: December 02, 2020, 06:28:40 AM
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It's a fact that the PCR test multiplies whatever bacteria/virus is "fed" to it.
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Allow me to make one modest correction because it is important.

What they do is to try to find a piece of the genetic material which is supposed to be present _only_ in a particular _species_ of bacteria/virus/whatever and use that to make a 'primer'.

If the segment of genetic material is present in the sample, it is bound by the primer sequence and amplified.

One of the problems with using 'PCR' for detecting infection is that these sequences might, for various reasons, be found in samples of people who are NOT sick.  Or they might be found on a papaya.  They can be found in minute quantities just by someone breathing them in from the environment.  They can also be found by someone who had an infection in the distant past and killed it off because the waste products from the destroyed viruses are encapsulated and excreted over a long period of time.

Even Dr. Fausti admits that when it takes over 35 'cycles' to get a positive, the person is almost never able to pass on the disease to anyone else even if they were at one time infected.  'Replication competent'.  Yet they are getting the news media to cause a panic over 'new cases' which require cycles up into the 40's.  Why?

The reason why is that this thing appears to be a pure scam which is being used as an operation to get as many people as possible injected with a brand new technology involving re-programming their cells with designer genetic material.  Why might they want to do this?  It's a legitimate...if not a critical...thing to get to the bottom of.  And get to the bottom of BEFORE you or your kids get the jab if possible.

1829  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 06:07:07 AM
"some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?"

The vaccine is being fast-tracked and companies are incentivized with more money and less risk for failure than for any other thing before. Yes. I believe they are already [successfully] testing vaccines from several manufactures.

I'm not rushing to be the first even though I'm vaccinated for everything my insurance will cover.

When they say "everyone on the frontlines will get it first", my first thought is: can't they do this in stages?
 *laughing at myself because the movie 'I am Legend' comes to mind except that we've killed off all the Dr.s and scientist and we're left with an 'Idiocracy'

Why people would assume (with rock solid conviction in a lot of cases) that all vials contain the same thing is beyond me.  When they did the 'tetanus' covert sterilization in Kenya recently it is said that a fraction of the vials come from a specialty lab in Canada while others seemed to have come from a factory.

The Achilles' heal of these programs is that it is quite difficult to implement a situation where vaccines are selected for each _individual_ person.  The fallout was that in the 90's when they used the 'tetanus' trick in The Philippines, they hit a medical doctor and she got suspicious and did the investigative work on herself (and found herself to have antibodies for the hormone which is necessary to maintain a pregnancy which is how this 'vaccine' works to cause abortions and sterility.)  If they could make sure that 'front liners' who often have some technical expertise get one thing and the 'poor' who are in the next batch get another, such issues are less likely to meet scrutiny.

Unsurprisingly (to me) technological solutions to the problems of individual selection, tracking, and 'pharmicavigilance ' are front-and-center in the efforts to 'solve' the so-called 'covid-19 epidemic' by use of 'vaccines.'   As a welcome side-effect, greatly enhanced general surveillance comes along for the ride.

Seriously though, that we no longer have Polio to plague our lives and many other diseases (that most of us are already vaccinated for) is a testament to science.

I am Pro-Vaccinations but by choice.

Could or will governments make it mandatory for it's citizens? Hope not
Will private businesses? We will see *airlines come to mind

Most diseases had declined sharply before a vaccine was in use, and it was almost certainly associated with developments in food and sanitation.  Some rather unpleasant things, like scarlet fever, never had a vaccine at all and are things of the past.

I'm in favor of people choosing to vaccinate.  In fact I specifically asked for a particular vaccine (only) for my daughter (only to find out that they had broken our agreement and vaccinated her with what they wanted anyway when they took her alone into the back room.)  This was a result of research into the risks in my environment and the technology used for different vaccines (there are several technologies which are utterly different from one another.)

I can tell you first hand that trained medical doctors who specialize in pediatrics even are often woefully ignorant of much of the science behind these things.  Doctors themselves will sometimes admit that they had half a day on vaccines of an 8 year study course and don't know shit about them.  All they need to do to maintain their careers is memorize a few pharma generated talking points and repeat them.  Such as 'safe and effective.'

1830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 02, 2020, 02:44:11 AM
It doesn't matters you trust it or no, most likely that you will have to get vaccinated if you want to live normal life again. It will be not mandatory, but people will need it if they want travel abroad, same like now some countries requires to be vaccinated from maliaria and other diseases. Your children may be not allowed to go into school and there may be more similar restrictions which will make your life more complicated. It's likely that not vaccinated people will be required to wear masks.

So, the unvaxxed wealthy class cannot mingle with the vaxxed 'useless eater' classes?  Oh No!  Please don't throw me in that thar brier patch Br'er Bear!

The 'new normal' calls for a much reduced use of energy (to save the world and all) which means much less travel.  If you or your friends have a private plane travel is not a problem and of course you won't be bothered by the health SS troops.  If you are part of a plane load of specialized work detail bound for a task somewhere you'll have to be vaxxed and tagged of course.

I'm not saying no to Covid-19 vaccine, but I prefer not to be vaccinated, same like I'm not going to get flu vaccine every year. But if there won't be other choice, I will go for it.

I read vaccine will give immunity for 6 months, so we will have to get it quite often and it doesn't sound good for me.

H. G. Wells and other early technocrats couldn't shake the vision/fantasy of humans differentiating into several different species.  Having one species constantly injecting custom designed genetic material into another species could be a means of accelerating the process of evolution.

1831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: December 01, 2020, 01:08:06 AM
Ignorant people believe in gods, aliens and conspiracy theories.  ...

By definition it is impossible to 'believe' a 'theory'.  Upon doing so it changes from a theory to a fact.

Are you going to say that 'ignorant' people generate/evaluate/entertain 'conspiracy theories' and by logical extension, 'informed' people do not?  Or is it more the case that it is OK to theorize about 'conspriacies' which might exist among certain groups of people (e.g., 'the Russians' interfering in elections) where others (e.g., politicians, wealthy people, and industry leaders) should never be the subject of certain hypotheticals.

1832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did Bill Gates create Corona Virus (Covid-19) ? on: November 30, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
We don't know what is happening behind the shadows, right? There are a lot of suspicions that it might be a plan, we don't know. All we know is that this virus mutated from the past corona viruses that we knew.

I have my suspicions and even if Bill Gates is a software geek, he might be one of those people.

As far as I can tell, Gates is not really that much of a 'computer geek' though he knew something about hacking code as a kid back in the early days.  Lots of kids did though.  It was basically all you could do on an old 6502 or 8080, and it isn't rocket science.

What Gates has is a maternal side who were central bankers and a mother who was in the same club as the president of IBM and was able to do her a favor by helping out her son.

On the paternal side, it seems that there was an unusually strong interest in eugenics (later known as 'population issues') as his dad headed up Planned Parenthood.  Planned Parenthood was a re-brand of some of the pre-WII eugnenics organizations before the nazis gave the idea a bad name.

Bill Gates is obviously a hell of an intelligent and capable guy, but has always been highly cut-throat in business.  He wanted to outlaw open-source software because it threatened his business model.  He and his pal (and fellow tribesman?) Ballmer tried to cheat Paul Allen out of his share when Allen was sick with cancer (if Allen's side of the story is to be believed, and from all else that I can see about Gates, I don't have any reason to doubt him.)

In the final equation, I see ZERO reason to believe that Gates would be in this thing (vaccines and a host of other technocratic efforts) to help anyone but himself and his class.  And I see all kinds of reasons to suspect that, like many of the other ultra-wealthy, he greatly fears the loss of control over the plebs and put a lot of focus on methods of ensuring that it doesn't happen.

1833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 30, 2020, 08:10:37 AM

Good luck detecting long term effects with a few months worth of exposure.

Given that there are no long term significant effects from other vaccines, where as there is a significant risk of significant long term effects from COVID (including so called "Long COVID", cardiomyopathy, encephalomyelitis, chronic inflammation, etc, not to mention the risk of death) then the risk benefit calculation comes out strongly in favor of the vaccine.

You seem quite confident in the 'data' considering that the purported virus which supposedly causes this thing cannot even be reliably identified or described.  I guess the 'Long COVID' you know all about came out of the same computer models which  promised 2,500,000 deaths in the UK if they didn't lock down?  I mean this thing was supposed to have originated out of bat soup less than a year ago, right?  That's not a long time to discover 'Long COVID'.

Also you have a lot of confidence in a procedure which is legally defined to be "unavoidably unsafe", has an insert which, under a magnifying glass, reads like a medical horror show in order to achieve the necessary 'informed consent' legalities, and for which taxpayers have paid out billions to maimed victims.  Note that it's taxpayers who pay the damages because vaccine makers won't even try to sell the stuff if THEY have to pay for the damages with their own money.  You remember how important it was to Bill Gates that the pharma companies got legal immunity for their 'covid-19' so-called 'vaccines' right away I am sure.  I mean he was all over the media mentioning this.  There's a reason.

Anyway, no need to worry about mortality with this supposed virus.  'Covid-19' has caused a one-for-one reduction in deaths due to all kinds of other things since it has such a remarkably wide range of effects.  Just ask the scientists at CNN, MSNBC, etc.

To put it another way, for every person who 'dies of covid-19', there is one fewer death from heart attack, stroke, motorcycle accident, etc.  So it comes out a wash.

But don't take my word for it.  Look at the government's numbers:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/y0L4wVmmGDmj/

Reported COVID-19 Deaths 'Almost Exactly Equal To’ Total Decrease In Deaths By All Other Causes

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By the way, I would like to thank those who may be responsible for the attacks on Bitchute.  When I get excessive buffering and the like, I simply download the file and watch it later.  From thence it finds it's way to my long-term archives for the enjoyment of 'future generations.'  That is to say, it is no longer subject to Google-n-friend's memory-hole algorithms.

1834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 30, 2020, 05:48:43 AM
Can't wait to get it. I'll be first in line when it is offered at my hospital.

It's impossible to tell without concrete evidence. Nothing should be taken for granted in today's world.
Agreed. Good thing we have multiple randomized double blind control trials confirming their safety and efficacy.

Good luck detecting long term effects with a few months worth of exposure.  But I'm sure that the scientpriests have 'computer models' which prove that zero people will have any problem.  And with 10 or 20 years of 'pharmacovigelence'  (aka, spying) they can detect that there were 30 million excess cancers (to treat at $1M per case) but of course every rational person would much rather have cancer than the dreaded Kobe Wirus which is so mild that most people don't even notice they had it.

For how many years did they inject Simian Virus 40 into people which came along for the ride with the polio vax?  A decade wasn't it?  Clearly these people have no qualms about injecting things they don't understand into someone else's arm.  I've heard that many doctors and medical professionals don't do themselves or their own kids with most vaccines, and after studying things I certainly can see why.  Of course they SAY they would/will (see above...they also may even SAY they are real doctors sometimes because so many people will believe anything they read on a forum.)

My mom once asked her doctor about liver damage from one of the statin drugs he was trying to push.  His response?  "Oh, we can do liver transplants now."  True story!  It takes 12 years of dedicated study and training to become corrupt and incompetent enough to get a state license to practice medicine.  Looks like you have to prove that you are on-board with the project of killing off the useless eaters which is exactly what one would expect schools and training programs funded into existence by eugenicists would be selecting for.

1835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 29, 2020, 06:41:21 AM
I'd rather quarntine and wear a mask than be a guinea pig on a new vaccine.

That's today's world.  The controllers magnanimously give the plebs a choice between two completely awful options both of which server the objectives of the controllers.  That's the 2020 version of 'democracy.'

1836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 29, 2020, 05:58:56 AM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

I feel really scary when i hear about the vaccine. As every country is in a hurry to create the covid-19 vaccine, i feel that some vaccine may be developed without proper testing and it can be more harmful than the virus itself.

It would be nearly impossible to come up with a vaccine or treatment which is LESS harmful than so-called 'covid-19'.  Maybe a saline injection, but even here, the psychological impacts, local infections, and accidents on the way to the clinic would probably do more harm than 'the virus'.

Here's more info on the nuts and bolts of how they pulled off the scam:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/y0L4wVmmGDmj/

1837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 29, 2020, 04:11:53 AM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

I would as long as they provided medical results from all the experiments they've done these past few months, there are a few promising vaccines from the trusted companies as well, my country already signed a contract to order a few million vaccines in the near future. If there are vaccines I would be scared to try, it's maybe from China. But yup if it is already tried from other people, and there are no severe side effects, then I'll take it.

Let me guess.  The 2M vaccines are being paid for in significant part by certain 'private sector' entities, but it's a secret which entities they are.  How very confidence inspiring!  Especially in light of the fact that the probable country is one of the ones mentioned here.

Even while the technology is rapidly moving to the point of specific-to-individual vaccinations with the data analytics, tracking, and surveillance developments necessary to do it, perfectly intelligent people simply cannot conceive of the possibility that every vaccine all over the world is not exactly the same.

1838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: November 29, 2020, 03:38:22 AM

Trump was president for the authorization and distribution planning so all hard-core Trump supporters who 'trust the plan' should feel it safe and fight for their right to get it first.

Biden and his team will have least have begun the transition and be able to verify that, because Saint Fausti was at the helm through the dark days of Trump, all is well.  So Biden voter should fight for their right to get it first as well since they totally won the election for sure.

Almost everything and everyone who had anything to do with the vaccine, any vaccine, or anything related to the vaccine (like the surveillance systems which come along for the ride) were funded by Gates, and because he is super rich, he is super good.  So, everyone  who wants to be rich should fight for their right to get the vaccine first.

The only people who should defer on their 'right' to the vaccine and let a needy poor person (aka, 'useless eater') have it instead would be the wealthy politicians and media personalities who already bravely fought through their totally for-real 'covid-19 infection'.

1839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Situation Update 11/26/20: Flynn in place, DoD aligned, rendition flights ACTIVE on: November 28, 2020, 05:18:27 PM
Oh goodie.  Trust the plan!  How many times are you going to fall for this crap?  You people are so gullible.


Well, what is your suggestion? Most of living with other people around involves trust. When you walk down the sidewalk, you don't know for a fact that the person walking towards you is an average, friendly person. He may smile. He may wave. He may say "Hi." But he might, as he walks by, suddenly pull out a knife and stab you. If he can do this, what about people in banking and government?

So, what is your suggestion? It's rather worse over in the Philippines, isn't it?


Security is more of a 'roll your own' thing in The Philippines, but there are more tools for the job since fewer people rely on the government for support in this respect (or in almost any other respect for that matter.)  I find it refreshing, and, after getting some certain things organized, I sleep more soundly at night than do most Americans in most cities I'll wager.  You know what they say about 'play stupid games'.  Most people who get into trouble here seem to map to that dynamic.

The Philippines is sending Filipinos around the world to take care of old and sick people (and toilets);  NOT to kill people...although I sense that plenty of Filipinos are getting sucked into the Greater Israel project as truck drivers in the occupied territories and such.  Even if the government were acting as USrael's bitch as are most of the Western countries, they would not be doing it in my name because I am not a citizen.  I would once again vote with my feet if they started.  Things that are being done in my name and with my money are what I care about the most.

As for 'fighting for America', there simply is not much left to fight for.  I'll support any country which embraces some of the old principles of the republic whether it is the U.S. or some other country.  None of the ZOG and almost none of the peeps are currently willing to do such a thing, and a precious few could even conceptualize most of these principles any more.

1840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Privacy Culture Manifesto on: November 28, 2020, 08:38:19 AM

Breaking my rule of not participating in lame-ass self moderated threads...

 - Public Servants:       Zero Privacy.  Everything, including who and how they fuck, is public record for anyone who cares to look.

 - Public Contractors:  See above, but maybe relaxed a little.

 - Everyone else:         100% Privacy.

Severe penalties for breaking the rules.  Basically, if you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen and don't leach off the taxpayers.  Perfect freedom of choice here.

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