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2761  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 10:40:11 PM
"The problem is that if we all wait to spend our coins until they're worth a certain amount, then how does that help the coin?"

How does spending the coin at any price "help" it? These people just do not get it- at all.


Poor kid. Hopefully total lack of common sense did not get passed on to you.


2762  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 10:22:16 PM
Ruh Roh Reorge! RayRoin Ropping Rast!





And meanwhile the passengers on the Paycoindenburg are chatting away about spending their $20 Paycoins:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28684/at-what-price-would-you-spend-your-xpy/2

Oh, the humanity!
2763  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
Wow, this question has a massive scope. Please read this thread. We go over it many many times. At least read the first three pages (and links) to start. Then come back here and ask this.

I have.  I did before I dropped some BTC on ZenCloud.  It's a lot of accusations.  And a lot of bad business practices.

If you actually researched GAW by reading this thread and then still decided to invest with them you have obviously failed passed this test:



2764  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 07:57:30 PM
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https://hashtalk.org/user/cyberlizard REAL Second Tier Cult Member and Josh's underling. Enabler of this ongoing scam.

Hilarious, you do know that wrongly accusing someone of wrongdoing is an offence just like knowingly being involved in a scam right? You're screaming for class action while dragging others into your FUD baking at the same time. Laughable.

---

Funny to see Lizard back at it on HT. The poor SOB can't figure out what side he is on from one minute to the next.  Roll Eyes

Thanks for the SOB.

I have a very clear cut opinion on ZC and Paybase and raised it several times. Don't judge what you don't know shit about because it's temporarily. Read my posts and show my a recent one that is defending the current state of GAWminers or Paybase. Until then, SOB right back at ya.

Awe.  Are you going to cry now? There, there, everything is going to be just fine. Cry
2765  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 07:37:02 PM
GAW faithful starting to use the neato "Paycoin ticker" widget:

and they see this:


And react like this:




Cool widget!
2766  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 07:15:03 PM
They just can't figure it out: https://hashtalk.org/topic/28648/why-cant-we-still-use-xpy-on-the-hash-market-gawminers-com-and-hashgear/34

Paul Revere, a lot of your posts are funny--but come'on mayne--why you gotta call us chumps ?   Grin

Chumps, morons, idiots, retards, etc. remarks tend to disarm the good info posted.

Kicking someone when they are down does not create an ally - only more animosity.

Then again, this is btctalk. We get it all here.

I disagree. When people are deeply psychologically invested in something like the whole Paycoin scam/cult, the best tool one has to knock them out of their delirium is the "Shamehammer".

Edit to add: Some sort of weird quote vortex happening with this post even though there are no quote brackets at the end of it.
2767  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 06:57:12 PM

Paul Revere, a lot of your posts are funny--but come'on mayne--why you gotta call us chumps ?   Grin

Because I was getting flak for calling GAW cultists morons too often! Figured I would mix it up a bit... Grin
2768  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
They just can't figure it out: https://hashtalk.org/topic/28648/why-cant-we-still-use-xpy-on-the-hash-market-gawminers-com-and-hashgear/34



 Why would they accept your XPY when they are sitting on a mountain of it and have designed the system so that they have "Prime Controllers" that shit out vast amounts more of XPY into their pile everyday??

The whole purpose of this scam is to take YOUR $ & BTC and put it in Josh&Co's pocket. Figure it the Eff out already, morons.

You have been Paycoined, Chumps!


Funny to see Lizard back at it on HT. The poor SOB can't figure out what side he is on from one minute to the next.  Roll Eyes
2769  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 05:17:18 PM
Check it out, you lot need to come to http://weeklyponzi.com/ its way better than  CD and you can  5 times your investments just keep receiving and placeing them again at weeklyponzi im in profit for over 5 btc now! 100 btc gets you 30 btc in some hours. You can also watch the blockchain of the wallet paying out

JUST DON'T GAMBLE ON THE LAST DAY OF THIS WEEK AS YOU WILL BE LIKELY TO LOSE


Can we please do something to slow this train derailment for the next 160-ish days?

I have staked coins that I need to cash out, and need the value of XPY to stay about the same.



You've been Paycoined in agonizing slow motion!




https://hashtalk.org/topic/28669/paybase-buy-sell-spread-and-merchant-adoption

Ya, you are missing something. You forgot the nottafee spread paid to get XPY at Paybase in the first place for one thing. And most likely credit card fees as well. I am sure there are more "nottafees" I have overlooked here as well..

2770  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
Right, I do understand that the "merchant integration" plans currently being bandied about in GAW land do not involve merchants directly accepting XPY, but most of the posters there DO think that is what is going to happen. Any way you slice it, it is the same result, though. When someone spends a crypto it is converted into hard currency and the crypto is dumped back into the market creating a buyers market, as these dumps will always be priced to sell now on the exchanges. The more that is spent, the more gets dumped and the lower the price goes.

P.S: This downward pressure from merchant integration is one of the things that BTC is struggling with right now. The only way it will change is when there are enough people using a crypto that hold some amount in their wallets at all times, thus creating a price anchor. The jury is out as to if and at what price this anchor will hold BTC. As for XPY, there simply isn't anywhere remotely close to enough people who will use it to create such an anchor. Then factor in the millions of XPY belonging to "investors (aka GAW insiders) who are waiting to dump XPY and the whole thing goes south real fast. Spending XPY WILL drive the price down, it is simple math.
2771  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
Another point of stupidity in the HT camp is the inability to understand that merchant integration = continuous downward market pressure. You have the same morons yelling "Down with Dumpers" and pleading for everyone to max out their credit cards to buy up all the XPY (@ a 10% fee no less) on the exchanges to drive the price up (never mind that Josh & CO are those endlessly dumping into the market right now) and in the same breath these idiots say that people buying from merchants with XPY will bring the price up. Completely effing stupid. Merchants do NOT hold crypto, they DUMP it as soon as they get it.

2772  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:45:56 PM
I also thought that most of the cultish braindead remarks from people over there must be from shill accounts. Actually , most of them turn out to be real people. I have checked many dozens of accounts after reading things thinking this has to be a shill, and then you check the account and they have been posting for months about all kinds of things, complete with active FB pages and such and are in fact real people (cult zombies). From what I have seen only maybe 1/10 of the "Buy Paycoin and HOLD! To the Moon! We LOVE YOU JOSH" posters turns out to be an obvious shill account. SCARY!

Did Josh recruit these people from various churches and/or mental institutions?

I'm being serious here,
What if Josh bought a email lists of mental patients from various hospitals in the USA and spammed them all with Paycoin?
What if he has huge email lists of 'life churches' and promised them a second life if they support his company?

No is no other explanation for being so fucking stupid.

I really don;t know exactly how these morons were recruited. I suspect it is just having the right lie at the right time. Things are going badly for a lot of people these days and they are looking for the "Golden Ticket" out of this mess, and Josh has no moral issues with lying to them and saying he has it. All you have to do is send him all of your money and BELIEVE! Pretty much a duplicate of every cult, except this one is purely driven by greed, whereas some cults may have a kernel of spirituality at their core.

Lets examine a current thread full of people who obviosuly do not know their ass from a hole in the ground on HT: https://hashtalk.org/topic/28638/cc-purchase/3

Here is my analysis of the effing idiots talking about how much they have run up their credit cards to put cash directly into Josh's pocket in return for a couple of Shitcoins taken from his endless reserve of them:

OP https://hashtalk.org/user/mtaretto  REAL Braindead Cultmember
https://hashtalk.org/user/unclebuck REAL Seems to have two brain cells, but they argue with eachother.
https://hashtalk.org/user/albundy FAKE Obvious shill account.
https://hashtalk.org/user/colaxais REAL Just plain Effing stupid person
https://hashtalk.org/user/ricardo  REAL Braindead Cultmember
https://hashtalk.org/user/frant100 REAL Dazed and Confused Braindead Paycoin Cult Member.
https://hashtalk.org/user/mobileghod REAL Braindead Cultmember
https://hashtalk.org/user/cyberlizard REAL Second Tier Cult Member and Josh's underling. Enabler of this ongoing scam.

8 posters in that thread of effing morons complaining about how they can't put more of their money in Josh's pocket faster. Conclusion: 7 are real people, one of which is a cult insider. 1 obvious shill account.

Edit to add: Here is some ST for all you HT Cultmembers. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESWRtaHNU8
2773  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
I also thought that most of the cultish braindead remarks from people over there must be from shill accounts. Actually , most of them turn out to be real people. I have checked many dozens of accounts after reading things thinking this has to be a shill, and then you check the account and they have been posting for months about all kinds of things, complete with active FB pages and such and are in fact real people (cult zombies). From what I have seen only maybe 1/10 of the "Buy Paycoin and HOLD! To the Moon! We LOVE YOU JOSH" posters turns out to be an obvious shill account. SCARY!
2774  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 01:58:30 PM
Well I gotta give Homero some credit....at least he knows that he's too stupid for a LIVE debate.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28616/response-to-andrew-re-debate

This guy here is going to be banned shortly , I would suspect...



Josh: " I challenge you to a debate, Andrew!"

Andrew: "Challenge accepted. Lets do it"

Josh: "Did I say debate?? Oh I meant send me some questions and I will have some SmaRt PeEple come up with some snakey non-answers"

What is wrong with these morons who worship this shitbag?



Exactly.

Scott-

Hey i'm BCT famous!

I've been watching this thread since like page 100.

Just to clarify, i'm not a shitbag that worships the moron Josh. I've actively argued against him several times and I pretty much agree this is a ponzi and that Josh needs to stop running his mouth with announcements.

I should have said something like "Why are more people on HT not asking questions like this guy, instead of worshiping this shitbag (Josh)". You are obviously one of the few people over there that questions what is going on, and I apologize for lumping you in with the mindless multitudes.
2775  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:28:52 AM
Well I gotta give Homero some credit....at least he knows that he's too stupid for a LIVE debate.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28616/response-to-andrew-re-debate

This guy here is going to be banned shortly , I would suspect...



Josh: " I challenge you to a debate, Andrew!"

Andrew: "Challenge accepted. Lets do it"

Josh: "Did I say debate?? Oh I meant send me some questions and I will have some SmaRt PeEple come up with some snakey non-answers"

What is wrong with these morons who worship this shitbag?

2776  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:18:02 AM
LMFAO! This is indeed an operating mining center, but I have about 1/20 of what is pictured here, and I am definitely a "hobby miner" What a complete fucking joke. Here are the S3's that are currently for sale I guess. Take your pick...
2777  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 10, 2015, 02:14:49 AM
I think those are real pictures BUT I have no doubt that the units pictured are not operating, which i guess was alluded to by Garza at some point when pinned down about it. This shot is the most damning as far as saying this is a"data center" There are ZERO conduit drops from the ceiling, no wires running to any machine, and the rest of the warehouse is full of wrapped pallets of boxes. They probably rented or borrowed the shelving and unpacked some of the miners they were selling and *PooF* instant data center. How can anybody put faith (and MONEY) in this obvious habitual liar?
2778  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 09, 2015, 08:25:46 PM
Hmmm. So your saying if I am selling pieces of toilet paper for $4.40 it makes more sense to take one off the roll I got for free instead of buying a piece of toilet paper for $4 and then reselling it for $4.40 . Quicker delivery time even!  I think I am getting a handle on this sales stuff, very fascinating.

What is your take, Daffy? Please explain sales to me again, you know, the part about why someone would pay for a product they are selling when they have an endless supply for free.
2779  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 09, 2015, 08:00:47 PM
Yes they are. But that was not I was answering to. I was saying that the few transactions that are split in half and to the same address are the staking transactions. The other are indeed sales or transfers to other user owned wallets.

So, what part of Josh &Co are selling pre mined (FREE) coins do you not understand? Do you also believe that NONE of these pre mined coins have been dumped into the open market? How about the Tooth Fairy? You believe in that, too?  Fools like you are why these scammers are able to keep  repeating this same scam with a new coat of paint on the same turdwagon over and over.

What part of sales do you not understand?

I understand sales quite well. What part of "you have given a lot of money to a dirty, stinking, rotten, lying con man and now you are making yourself into an even bigger fool by defending him" do you not understand?

Also: I would like to ask you a question. WHY are you posting here? The dumbest of the dumb could figure out that you are not going to make a believer out of anyone who has read the proof of scam presented here, so WHY are you posting here?

So even when I agree with you you don't accept it? Why do I post here i'm really beginning to wonder that because even the simplest sentence are misunderstood.

I think your family should put you on suicide watch. You are clearly delusional and grasping for some magic excuse that will explain why you have not been taken for a fool by a con man. It does not exist. You have been Paycoined. When you finally wake up and realize what a fool you have been, and then pile on top of that your childish public defense of the shyster who played you for a fool,  that is going to be one hard day to face, friend.
2780  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 09, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Yes they are. But that was not I was answering to. I was saying that the few transactions that are split in half and to the same address are the staking transactions. The other are indeed sales or transfers to other user owned wallets.

So, what part of Josh &Co are selling pre mined (FREE) coins do you not understand? Do you also believe that NONE of these pre mined coins have been dumped into the open market? How about the Tooth Fairy? You believe in that, too?  Fools like you are why these scammers are able to keep  repeating this same scam with a new coat of paint on the same turdwagon over and over.

What part of sales do you not understand?

I understand sales quite well. What part of "you have given a lot of money to a dirty, stinking, rotten, lying con man and now you are making yourself into an even bigger fool by defending him" do you not understand?

Also: I would like to ask you a question. WHY are you posting here? The dumbest of the dumb could figure out that you are not going to make a believer out of anyone who has read the proof of scam presented here, so WHY are you posting here?
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