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2761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Lightning Network centralized? on: October 19, 2018, 01:13:39 PM
but there are things such as lightning explorers
they reveal many things, balances per channel, who the nodes connect to. they actually reveal alot more then the bitcoin block explorer does about individuals

Actually, you are right. 1ML.com is an example of such explorer. However, it is possible to open a private channel which is only known to nodes which maintain it. Such channel is excluded from routing outside payments since other nodes don't know that it exists. LND allows their users to open a private channel by adding --private parameter while opening a channel. I guess it's only useful for people who often trade between themselves and don't wont other people to interrupt.

--private make the channel private, such that it won't be announced to the greater network, and nodes other than the two channel endpoints must be explicitly told about it to be able to route through it

i can also without LN make private payments. yep you dont need LN nodes.
people have been using multisig for years and doing things privately.
many exchanges have had multisig reserves between themselves for years without LN and without needing to broadcast every trade to a blockchain

people have actually done physical bitcoin trades (paper wallet and casascius coins) without needing to broadcast to a blockchain

in 2012-2013 i remember arbitraging between mtgox, btc-e and bitstamp without seeing bitcoin broadcast onchain


But that should not suggest that layered protocols for Bitcoin should never be explored. If the Lightning Network fails then it fails. What should matter is the base layer, it should remain censorship resistant, secure, and immutable, not taking risks like this,


Maybe you should start working for a risk dept in a bigger institution first - than you learn what it means and what to do about.

But thx that you brought up that very good point!
2762  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: October 18, 2018, 10:27:29 AM
Tataaa

https://www.it-finanzmagazin.de/paukenschlag-bitcoins-erlaubnisfrei-79213/
2763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 18, 2018, 05:02:50 AM
Accept BCH and have fun

https://twitter.com/usebitcoincash/status/1052671069176455169?s=21
2764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2018, 05:09:53 PM
https://www.hackathon.cash/scholarshipapplication
2765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2018, 01:59:25 PM
Think for yourselves. Use it or see how others use it

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9ov47h/bchiness_meeting_north_queensland_style/

The future is not written, you can do new stuff and find if it fits for you or others.

 Cheesy
2766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2018, 06:16:41 AM
Cool stuff here

https://the-bitcoin-token.github.io/bitcoin-token-website/
2767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Lykke - Trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, FX and Digital Assets on: October 16, 2018, 08:46:26 PM
https://abacusjournal.com/exclusive-goldman-sachs-and-bakkt-goldman-wont-go-it-alone-with-crypto-custody-product-will-rely-on-bakkt-infrastructure/

Anything you fear here?
2768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 16, 2018, 08:45:03 PM
https://abacusjournal.com/exclusive-goldman-sachs-and-bakkt-goldman-wont-go-it-alone-with-crypto-custody-product-will-rely-on-bakkt-infrastructure/
2769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 16, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
https://abacusjournal.com/exclusive-goldman-sachs-and-bakkt-goldman-wont-go-it-alone-with-crypto-custody-product-will-rely-on-bakkt-infrastructure/
2770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2018, 10:07:20 AM

BCH is real cash.


"Real cash" doesn't lose 12% of its value over 24 hours.

Cryptocurrency wasn't meant to be held. It's a tool for moving value across the internet. If you hold Bcash like you hold real cash, you've been nothing but disappointed across the entirety of 2018.
anti-hodlers'
https://youtu.be/sGsFK52L0lk?t=899


Thx, for sharing... already 1978 known stuff about fiat. Wow
2771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2018, 09:55:44 AM
Good ideas from Ryan to get involved for anyone

https://youtu.be/5ja653_UzJY
2772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2018, 06:15:03 AM
Stop moaning, start helping


https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9o03vl/a_completely_nonexhaustive_list_of_ways_to_help/


Work for Bitcoin Cash, keep the base protocol simple and easy to scale.

Keep the good on chain safety up, and keep the crypto space clean from middle men like blockstream and co.
2773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 14, 2018, 05:37:21 AM

BCH is real cash.


"Real cash" doesn't lose 12% of its value over 24 hours.

Cryptocurrency wasn't meant to be held. It's a tool for moving value across the internet. If you hold Bcash like you hold real cash, you've been nothing but disappointed across the entirety of 2018.

If you hold ‘real cash,’ you’ll be disappointed.

Let’s not forget most of us on this forum are not retarded and got our Bitcoin Cash out of the fork...We’re up, crazy amounts.

Let’s also not forget BCH ranks 4th on CMC. And is 5+ years younger than all those ahead.

Bitcoin Cash will not go away.


... in terms of following the road of pur on chain PoW, BCH is the oldest crypto cash system on the planet... SW forked away, killing it softly. Wink
2774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 13, 2018, 05:30:51 PM
Things are coming

https://www.techbullion.com/the-evolving-cryptocurrency-regulatory-landscape/
2775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 13, 2018, 04:43:52 PM

BCH is real cash.


"Real cash" doesn't lose 12% of its value over 24 hours.

Cryptocurrency wasn't meant to be held. It's a tool for moving value across the internet. If you hold Bcash like you hold real cash, you've been nothing but disappointed across the entirety of 2018.

and real cash does not increase its value like 12 percent or more in seconds, minutes, the entire crypto market as a whole is just lots more volatile than stock market

Still too much dominated by traders and bots.

But 1 BCH = 1 BCH all the time.

Adoption is chicken and egg and so it runs in bumpy iterations.

Use more of your given brains and see.

We are still in the beginning.

The protocol is still hot.

2776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 13, 2018, 10:50:55 AM
Bitcoin is cash. Cash does not have consumer protection, but governments enforce laws which protect consumers. Cash is instant, and so is BCH. If you think 0-conf is unsafe, send me some BCH and double spend it back to yourself.

BCH is real cash.


Compare:


 So if you get a 100 USD in notes, you can check it and go away in some seconds.

If you d get 10Mio USD in notes, you need some decent time to count them until checked


Same holds for BCH. Small amounts, easy going, and who wants to risk reputation for low amounts?

Big amounts with BCH, give it some block time to be confirmed.
2777  Other / Meta / Re: Should Gavin Andresen be given a better rank on this forum? on: October 12, 2018, 08:07:17 PM
He won't be given one....for political reasons. That is not to say that he doesn't deserve one.

True. And proven very easily by reading some conservative supporting  comments upthread.

 Roll Eyes
2778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2018, 07:51:55 PM
On how some devs could irritate the entire economy of BCH with some (un-needed?) lines of code :

https://blockmanity.com/news/gemini-lists-litecoinltc-postpones-plans-list-bitcoin-cashbch/

When lessons learned from Segwit injection?

Better: Remove code, that is easier to scale.
2779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin is Dead" - Mike Hearn on: October 12, 2018, 04:36:56 PM
... not yet. But the killing is in the making

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9nfv5q/blockstreams_end_game_is_now_fully_exposed_they/
2780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 12, 2018, 04:34:46 PM
Yes , not many might want to know... read... admit this here

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9nfv5q/blockstreams_end_game_is_now_fully_exposed_they
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