There is no MASS consensus - this ur private dream.
Of course there is. Its the community: the miners, the users, the merchants, the exchanges -- they have all came to the consensus that Bitcoin = BTC and everything else are altcoins. You are in the minority. You will always be in the minority. Don't reply to me until BSV has even begun to approach the hash rate of BCH. Sure - the mearchants that where kicked out with NO2X ? U are in a twitter troll bubble - this is ur mass   |
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^ oh they're scared of Libra? that's hilarious. we aren't lol. it's a shitcoin. like bsv
I wonder how u ever could compare libra with BitCoin - is there some Zucki u have to ask for permission to join / pay him 10Mio USD ? Is Libra PoW ? Is it bottum up ? But thx for brining that one up BTW : BSV is BitCoin just clean & working from 2009 -> and no segwit . How can this be shit? |
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From September last to this year, Ethereum total supply was 101 millions and today 107.7 millions. In one year 7 millions than after 5-10 year!!. Constantinople fork was helping to reduce mining reward and uncle rewards.
So it is central controlled / governed - what a shit coin. A protocol that needs real altering (except tiny bug fixes) is no protocol- it's an Experiment (see btc segshit) that never should be on public sale. And it's not working - we debunked for years / from the start that full programming / scriptable coins never can scale, are highest risky (for self-attack etc) and ultimately lead to total central control - PoS is such cause it is a DB where u just need to buy admin rights ONCE and never could be revoked for ever. It's only 'good' for scammy ICOs and crap apps. - High fees payed by scammers to scam others DAO 2.0 |
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I am also banned there. After the bullshit they were pulling, I couldn't stand anymore and went on berserk mode.
I'm glad I did. Now I can't post even if I wanted to. Let them suffocate to death.
Reddit is great shit - useless |
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I d be happy BitCoin will replace any PM like Gold & Silver any time soon.
Think of all that crap the digging & chemistry it does to mother nature - mining BitCoin could be done with sustainable sources. [b2But to get a real use case, BitCoin must scale[/b]
Yes it must, but not in the direction the big blockers took. Bitcoin's value-proposition is in its decentralization. From it, came censorship-resistance, and security. Giving up decentralization to make it "scale up" would be a bad decision, and reduces its primary value-proposition. Decentralization, censorship-resistance, security. What Bitcoin Core developers should do is improve latency, to make it scale out, make it easier for new nodes to do the initial blockchain download. Open PoW protocol is always decentralized enough - so big block don't kill that. Sorry, but good try True P2P txs have 'no' latency - that's an issue if u can do RBF and fees fck u up only |
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Yes - BSV is that stone now. Good to keep any crappy ppl out of the protocol alterations with that.
thx
yeah, about 100 other people who have copied bitcoin and created about 100 garbage altcoin with a name like bitcoin-foo are also saying the same exact thing as you are  here are some of the garbage that are accompanying your vision:  Sure 99% shit coins |
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There is no doubt some ppl mixing up
COIN (Ticker)
with
SYSTEM (Protocol)
Language is guided by more than that. Definitions of words are created by mass consensus. The consensus is BTC is Bitcoin. It's always been this way. You can continue - hopelessly I might add - to pretend that an alternate reality exists where this is not true, and the real world will continue to operate as it currently does despite your personal beliefs and preferences. There is no MASS consensus - this ur private dream. Bitcoin is bigger than the btc ticker. The MASS is using banks and fiat or even NOTHING - a very strictly controlled and assessed Regime & risk averse, where BTC is not accepted. Never will cause it has altered and does not work - only for speculation and crime wanting to pay the fees. |
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JJG always struck me as a perfect match for the standard 'voice' of BCT:
You should have quit while you were ahead here... -Weak/Broken English
-Inability to control emotions
Obvious digs and largely inaccurate. JJG's English (the times I read it anyway) is top notch, which leads me to believe your failure to recognize this means you are the one who is not a native speaker. My guess has always been: -Lower status younger Southern/Eastern European: nope
-Missed out on BTC early days: not compared to you
-Sees no way out besides a belief in BTC hitting 100k+: negative, he's laid out dozens of scenarios in the past that suggest otherwise
I've always guessed that JJG was a well-educated American of perhaps 50% hispanic descent, just going by his use of the double-space between sentences and his name. Also the times of his posts, though scattered, would suggest he resides on the east coast or somewhere in middle America. It's quite funny that one (here) believes that such needs to be commented / stated in an educated env. It also says much about what ppl believe what Bitcoin might need to work and even go out for commenting / stating on such... Most simple things are just no-brainers |
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Sure a fork is technically an altcoin, but if the economic majority accepts it as the new bitcoin, then it will be bitcoin. Bitcoin is whatever people want it to be.
And you will be left with the bloated 1mb coin bag of the old coin, sitting at 1 cent price, wondering why you are wrong.
| Symbol | Hash Rate | Market Cap | | BTC | 98.4 Ehash | $183.8 B | | BCH | 2.45 Ehash | $5.546 B | | BSV | 0.95 Ehash | $2.178 B |
There is no doubt about which coin "bitcoin" is. There never was. Its never been close. As far as whether or not the laws of bitcoin are immutable I would say no, but its fundamental principles are. Bitcoin should be allowed to evolve just like any other technology. The idea that Satoshi got everything perfect in his first go is ludicrous. There is no doubt some ppl mixing up COIN (Ticker) with SYSTEM (Protocol) BTW: U can piss on SATOSHI only iff u ve fully proven, that his work does NOT WORK. |
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I d be happy BitCoin will replace any PM like Gold & Silver any time soon.
Think of all that crap the digging & chemistry it does to mother nature - mining BitCoin could be done with sustainable sources. But to get a real use case, BitCoin must scale
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Yes - BSV is that stone now. Good to keep any crappy ppl out of the protocol alterations with that.
thx
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I don't have a dog in the core vs bch/bsv fight although I do find what BSV is doing is interesting, whether it will succeed long-term who knows. But one thing I've always rejected is this idea that everyone should be running nodes. The only people who run coin nodes are nerds with an altruistic mindset run, there is virtually no incentive for the average person to contribute electricity and keep their computer on 24/7 or even worse, to dip into their own pocket to run a cloud server. Human beings are inherently selfish and the best way to entice someone to do something is pay them. This is the heart of capitalism. Miners get paid for the work they do, why shouldn't node operators, even if it is just a pittance in fees since the overhead is much cheaper? While cheap, it is still overhead though.
You know what is actually true decentralization? Millions of people actually spending and USING Bitcoin around the world and the numbers being so gargantuan that the governments of the world can never hope to shut it down. People distort what decentralization really is IMO. The fight in my mind should always be to evangelize and spread Bitcoin/crypto's use, not have academic arguments over which network of 0s and 1s is more spread apart than the other.
I didn't say everybody should be running a node. I just said that if the BSV blockchain gets too unwieldy in size, for example bigger than the biggest commercially-available hard drive, its going to be a real turnoff for service providers with a capitalistic interest in BSV to run nodes. And you seem to be confusing a fork of a fork altcoin with Bitcoin. "Bitcoin SV" isn't Bitcoin. Its an altcoin that desperately wants to trick new users into believing it is Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash already tried this (along with the whole bigger block thing) and failed. What is so special about BSV that would make it succeed where BCH failed? Really, the whole debate is completely tired by now. BSV lost to BCH, which lost to BTC. Wake me up when BSV's hash rate begins to approach that of BCH's. Then we'll talk. Until then, I'm not bumping this thread anymore. I say - only trusted services should run and care about CRITICAL IT infrastructure - esp if it aims for >> GLOBAL FINANCE ( yes banks, govs, exchanges, merchants ALL INCLUDED = GLOBAL). I m sure u do not want anyone's money depend on how twitter trolls will collude and decide on the next CODE FUCK UP like segshit or NO2X next time. This is utterly LOL - like RBF and many more 'TROLL FEATURES' inside a global finance protocol ! |
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Everything will be fine with Ethereum since this platform has already taken very big roots.
.. big scam roots- absolutely . Try to sell the dumbest world Computer to the Kids - what a DAO |
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Hahaha!!! No merit left to give  Same here - cannot stop giggling  |
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Why I sold BSV and bought DASH:
1. at BSV blocks time up to 1.5 hours, it's not good enough for pay in stores, but dash now sends all payments instantly, the miners is an optional second layer of protection
2. BSV has not privatsend, the recipient of the payment can see how much money you have in your wallet
3. BSV is controlled by Bitmain, but the Dash's chainlocks makes such control impossible
Why i dropped DASH for VIOG and BSV
Because VIOG is almost the same as DASH with the same functions except that it costs extremely less, practical to discover the environment as an MN for $1 so largely at a lower cost because 1 VIOG = 0.0008€ the Coin Supply (VIOG) is 2.100.805 In addition it is developed and followed by a small community of enthusiasts who do not seek history to anyone and who try.
Why I choose BSV? Because right now they are the only ones that are cut to meet a global scale, it's like Bitcoin version 3.0. There is a lot of development around BSV which makes it exciting, new and constantly advancing. The only regret is the constant censorship that BSV is undergoing, especially here and there where there is a concentration of "infinite morons" who take turns only stirring poop in the fan. Or account blocking when you publish to make BSV known has become very common here.
For the following I still have particular tastes because I also like CRW and CROWN for what he tries to develop all in opposition to the "classical currents".
NicoDropped and delisted https://cryptonews.com/news/okex-korea-axes-privacy-coins-as-south-korean-purge-intensif-4654.htm |
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SV blocks continue to grow in size. Despite drop in price, SV still more profitable to mine for the last 2-3 weeks. What’s going to happen if the blocks continue to grow in size at this rate? https://sv.coin.dance/blocksAnyone? BitCoin will win |
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It would be interesting to see how many of these transactions are done with Monero and Dash compared to Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash. Every time a story like this pops up, I take a look at the most recent data and news articles, and every time they say something different. It is difficult enough to get numbers of bitcoin transactions taking place on the dark web; it's impossible to get numbers of monero transactions. Some reports say that monero is the most offered payment option, but actually monero payments rank below bitcoin and litecoin in terms of volume. This is reason why the crypto markets needs to be 'shut' down and only most transparent regulated P2P BitCoin must survive this. This is reason why the internet needs to be shut down and only the most transparent regulated P2P connections must be allowed to survive. This is reason why encrypted communication needs to be shut down and only the most transparent regulated plain text emails must be allowed to survive. Why does this happen at all after ur logics? https://cryptonews.com/news/okex-korea-axes-privacy-coins-as-south-korean-purge-intensif-4654.htmAll ICOs needs to be removed as well, or do you want the SEC to clean things up? https://www.investopedia.com/news/sec-chair-says-bitcoin-not-security/Self regulation has to be done. Or govs will do it , like for Liberty Reserve - doesn't matter what techy args u have or how u define 'decentralized' - (global) lol ! >> https://coingeek.com/us-treasury-cryptos-must-adhere-to-tough-market-regulations/It is not about some text msg in the internet - it's getting a GLOBAL finacial product with all implications. So better learn what that means - or shut up ur anno anarcho scams |
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This is reason why the crypto markets needs to be 'shut' down and only most transparent regulated P2P BitCoin must survive this.
Or - we will see another global shut down for all crypto - see Liberty Reserve
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Wow, some guys bought 31k cheap ?
Lol - just do not pay attention too much to speculation ( for gamblers) - better build useful apps on top-
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