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1881  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a Form of Anarchy on: October 06, 2019, 07:31:12 PM
Nope

It needs rules and consensus about. Anarchy doesn't want rules at all

It needs an existing economy and rule based (minimal is ok) capitalism to allow maximum open competition between miners.

And P2P trade function, where traceable txs are done and need a legal basic framework to be embedded into


No. Anarchy is not good for any global monetary settlement system like Bitcoin
1882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Can We Find Him ? on: October 06, 2019, 07:24:55 PM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1123946538131251200.html

Craig Wright proved in court that he is Satoshi

He seems to know a lot of Satoshi and what he did, also how he came to get it done,

https://youtu.be/QaafKXd9uK0

Some trolls want to tear that down.

Cause why?
1883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 04:02:08 PM
That reads kinda Silk Road.

Wtf. That killed a lot adoption

WTF is right. How can you be even dumber than roachie to not know that's a take on the Jolly Roger pirate flag? Its only one of the most iconic images of all time. Here was the logo for Silk Road you dunce:



It was defunct by 2013. Bitcoin didn't even start to take off in terms of real-world adoption until 2016. There have been darknet markets that process 100x the number of transactions of Silk Road that have already come and gone, and Bitcoin now has more adoption than ever.

Go back to your troll cave and continue masturbating over your pictures of Calvin and Craig.

Lol. Trolls get triggered by the truth.

Thats well known truth.


So who s getting triggered all the time?

  Grin
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: October 06, 2019, 03:55:33 PM
Italien goods for BSV

https://www.italiaclick.com/
1885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: October 06, 2019, 11:43:40 AM
Real SPV - as outlined in the Satoshi White Paper -

Coming to BSV - soon!

https://mobile.twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1180692841929986048
1886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2019, 11:38:21 AM


Lol, this guy knows how to describe one of the reasons why Buffet can't understand this world.



That reads kinda Silk Road.

Wtf. That killed a lot adoption
1887  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin so valuable just because it was first? on: October 06, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
The Bitcoin Blockchain is created as a functional successor for tries and studies from Stornetta (referenced 4 times in the Satoshi White Paper!) In order to have an immutable open electronic ledger that can store any important information along a tx . That was created to reduce fraud a lot since u can now really trace if 'shit' happens. That will reduce shit a lot.


All efforts to make BitCoin annonymous will distroy that most important feature for our world and lower the adoption potential and lower the value

https://youtu.be/_EQDiJ92VaI

The power and value is in the chain. On chain
1888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still excited when there is news about the real Satoshi coming up on: October 06, 2019, 08:28:57 AM
Only with doing own PoW
Own research
Own thinking

U ll find out.

Critical watch and think


https://youtu.be/QaafKXd9uK0
1889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We still don't have any idea about the real Satoshi, stop false info on: October 06, 2019, 08:27:20 AM
Nobody knew such stuff

Only this guy

https://youtu.be/QaafKXd9uK0

Trolls want to tier down cause the ll lose their uasf powers
1890  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: October 06, 2019, 06:55:49 AM
...

Was machen LTC und BCH denn noch so weit oben? Ich kapier es einfach nicht. Sinnlose Abklatsch-Coins. Eigentlich gehört Monero an deren Platz. Da ist wenigstens jemand einen eigenen Weg bewusst gegangen, der ganz anders als der von BTC ist. Auf ne ehrliche Weise. Es gibt einen guten Grund, Monero zu verwenden oder zumindest besser zu finden als andere Coins. Aber BCH/LTC? Was wollen sie denn jemals machen, um ihr dasein zu legitimieren?

Es gibt FIAT-Geld, es gibt Gold, und es gibt seit 2009 eine dritte Macht: Bitcoin. Alles andere ist Kinderquatsch mit Michael.


Und ich verstehe nicht, was daran so schwer zu verstehen ist.

BCH ist kein sinnloser Abklatsch sondern durch eine Abspaltung enstanden, weil sich Teile der Bitcoin Entwickler und der Bitcoin Community nicht über zukünftige Fragen einigen konnten und wollten.
Die eine Seite wollte eine Erhöhung des Blocksize-Limits, die andere Seite wollte das nicht implementieren. Dieser Teil wiederrum wollte SegWit vorantreiben, was die anderen nicht wollten.
Die Diskussion war endlos bzw. dauerte etliche Jahre, war verbunden mit vielen diversen Versuchen und unschönen, für die Kryptoszene lächerlich albernen Kleinkriegen von beiden Seiten.., und vor fast zweieinhalb Jahren wurde dann ein Hard Fork bzw ein UAHF durchgeführt... So entstand letztendlich BCH.
~zugegeben - etwas kurz umrissen~

In meinen Augen ist das legitim und demokratisch genug, selbst wenn die  BCH Beführworter in der Minderheit waren und wohl immer noch sind.
Spielt aber keine Rolle. Denn wer bestimmt denn, was das Wahrhafte ist und was nicht?
Ich habe diese Community, wenn ich das mal so nennen darf, eigentlich als offen und weitblickend kennengelernt, zugänglich für Neues und für ordentliche Diskussionen und nicht als Sekte, bei der es nur Platz für das eine Wahre gibt und wo Meinungsführer in Form von Hohepriestern den Leuten versuchen einzupauken, was richtig und was falsch ist.

Was du Kinderquatsch nennst, wahrscheinlich weil du alles nur aus der Sicht von Wertvermehrung, Rendite, Profit etc. betrachtest, mag für andere User eventuell alles andere als Quatsch sein und einen Sinn ergeben.


LTC und BCH  hab ich  die letzten Jahre mehr als  Zahlungsmittel  benutzt als  98% der unten aufgeführten Fiatwährungen somit zumindenst für mich nicht ganz sinnlos, ganz im gegenteil  Wink .

  

Super Grafik, am interessantesten finde ich den MC von Indien,... halb so viel wie die Schweiz. WTF
1891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: October 05, 2019, 08:40:44 PM
Quote from: nutildah link=topic=4985868.msg52662707#msg52662707

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Ur design snapshot from segshit?

Nice though
1892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: October 05, 2019, 05:47:28 PM
Try to get 20% off for using BSV

https://mobile.twitter.com/tabalini/status/1180481202085617664?s=20



https://tabalini.com
1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: October 04, 2019, 03:08:54 PM
I'm also curious to know which coin is already has maximum supply in cryptocurrency. Bitcoin has 30 millions to mining or reach to maximum supply. This way Ethereum is scam. Ethereum mining supply will overcome the first total supply.

BitCoin has 21Mio max supply. It is defined by original code and halfenings. All the rest is written up and specified in the Satoshi White Paper.  Any alterations from that is not BitCoin and sold to you by scammers.

ICOs are illegal by security law if not properly registered. They take your money and sell you stock / promise.
1894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
If you have 15 spare minutes, very interesting yet entertaining speech by Saif:

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Excellent presentation by @saifedean at @mises on why so many Bitcoiners want to learn Austrian economics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkNhSPxFsnY


https://twitter.com/stephanlivera/status/1179660970840379392

Mises is the right path to understand BitCoin economics IMO. But that includes the true powers of the original Satoshi version without any central planned devs injections and open markets for block space / onchain capacity ...

Meh
1895  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: October 03, 2019, 08:18:59 PM
Bump, Craig is a fraud.

I see him rather catching all the anno and anarcho frauds who try to do all sorts of illegal stuff with crypto

No wonder they hate him and want him to be called out...



Like impersonating Satoshi
Like plagiarism
Like tax fraud
Like faking diplomas
Like contempt of Court
Like Perjury
Like using fake emails from dead people
Like writing shit about Hal Finney, Martti Malmi and other people
Like filling a blockchain with BS data, the weather blockchain
Like promoting a fork as being Bitcoin

Which blockchain has stored child pronography? -> Bitcoin SV

Well said, except that the last point is an issue that can happen to any blockchain, it's not entirely their fault.
The unnecessary high size limit of blocks surely helps such situations, but just a low quality image would be store-able in most blockchains I suppose.

You are right, as long as the data fits the block size you can put shit in any blockchain. BUT, as you said, on some blockchains you can put 1MB of shit if you can afford the TX cost (very costly on the real Bitcoin), on BSV you can fit 2GB of trash, and they're planning for trash unlimited with their unlimited block size.



Notice that Cryddit employs two spaces after a full stop. Cryddit's goes by Edward as in Snowden.

Fine...
So go and show that experiment to work and scale somehow other than onchain. But pls don't call that one NOT BitCoin.


Satoshi called his BitCoin and it will scale as Moores law does - on chain.

1896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If not a "store of value" or "medium of exchange" ... on: October 03, 2019, 08:14:01 PM
Isn’t POW going to kill the planet with its waste of electricity?

Lol. Nope. It will save the world from stupid gold / PM mining that is really killing the planet.

And printing paper money

And running many central it depts

And many more true onchain scaling bitcoin can do for safe IT tasks.

Even get chips run more efficient is a good outcome of PoW and open compatition
1897  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: October 03, 2019, 03:44:13 PM
And from Satoshi's e-mail's, in response to Mike Hearn:

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The final number I’m interested in is the 500kb limit on block sizes. According to Wikipedia, Visa alone processed 62 billion transactions in 2009. Dividing through we get an average of 2000 transactions per second, so peak rate is probably around double that at 4000 transactions/sec. With a ten minute block target, at peak a block might need to contain 2.4 million transactions, which just won’t fit into 500kb. Is this 500kb a temporary limitation that will be slowly removed over time from the official client or something more fundamental?


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A higher limit can be phased in once we have actual use closer to the limit and make sure it’s working OK.

Eventually when we have client-only implementations, the block chain size won’t matter much. Until then, while all users still have to download the entire block chain to start, it’s nice if we can keep it down to a reasonable size.

With very high transaction volume, network nodes would consolidate and there would be more pooled mining and GPU farms, and users would run client-only. With dev work on optimising and parallelising, it can keep scaling up.

Whatever the current capacity of the software is, it automatically grows at the rate of Moore’s Law, about 60% per year.


Thx. Yes it reads pretty clear what BSV is all about.
And also clear why btc segwit scammers do not want ppl to read and learn.
So very clear they must shout "scam" louder , that what trolls can do better and end up in fuck ups like uasf etc
1898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: October 03, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
Daily status update: Bitcoin SV - Thursday the 3rd of October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkSgK3uKD9U

Time has clearly shown that BSV is very stable and reliable cryptocurrency.

Click "Oppose" there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=109

Thank you for supporting us


I did and do as long it is about original stable BiCoin.

Sadly I cannot dispute my funny trust. But I d write this:


I do not give investment advice. I only give advice to do own efforts into find out what true original BitCoin was all about.

No wonder I get into trouble with trolls who have hidden agendas with the 'cryto space' and so called side chains or 2nd layer crap that falls back to the old things we had before.

Bitcoin onchain is the most important thing to support.

Not Segshit, LN , ctor , dsv , checkpoints ..  whatever ppl try to tell u BitCoin desperately needs to work.

I rather suggest put more trust into the genuis of Satoshi Nakamoto. The man of truth and P2P trust
1899  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: October 03, 2019, 10:37:52 AM
Bump, Craig is a fraud.

I see him rather catching all the anno and anarcho frauds who try to do all sorts of illegal stuff with crypto

No wonder they hate him and want him to be called out...



Like impersonating Satoshi
Like plagiarism
Like tax fraud
Like faking diplomas
Like contempt of Court
Like Perjury
Like using fake emails from dead people
Like writing shit about Hal Finney, Martti Malmi and other people
Like filling a blockchain with BS data, the weather blockchain
Like promoting a fork as being Bitcoin

Which blockchain has stored child pronography? -> Bitcoin SV

Well said, except that the last point is an issue that can happen to any blockchain, it's not entirely their fault.
The unnecessary high size limit of blocks surely helps such situations, but just a low quality image would be store-able in most blockchains I suppose.

You are right, as long as the data fits the block size you can put shit in any blockchain. BUT, as you said, on some blockchains you can put 1MB of shit if you can afford the TX cost (very costly on the real Bitcoin), on BSV you can fit 2GB of trash, and they're planning for trash unlimited with their unlimited block size.

I really hope that the internet will be shut down for ur guys after ur logics.

Lol
1900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If not a "store of value" or "medium of exchange" ... on: October 03, 2019, 10:31:11 AM

Nope

The only kick for activation came from the 2x promise / NYA.


Was the community represented in the NYA? No, running full nodes rejecting "2X" did. Cool

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Wanting to ignore this makes u full retard ponzi scammer.

This is proof


Not proof, troll harder.

Newbies, listen to HV, and learn. The hard way. Cool

Learning is mostly a hard way. All is proof of work. Bitcoin does teach u this in a very nice and strict way.

Everybody needs to do own reseach as much as possible also to find out that Bitcoin is a perfect tool to store the truth and enables trust and honesty in the internet where this was missing before.

This is also the reason why there is a need to put permanently work into keeping the protocol clean , stable and on purpose. Put all efforts and work for onchain scaling cause this is the only true place for the ultimative truth.

All ur little changers of that do not want this and have other agendas off truth by wanting off chain crap which is not Bitcoin but the old crap we had before. It is normal that closed minds work such retarded, fall back into their old home they knew and scam others by stealing the name of Bitcoin.

I m here ONLY for that real Bitcoin.

If it is clean and simple as a Singularity must be, its use and value is infinite.


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