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1941  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 22, 2019, 06:03:00 PM

ETH ist ein zentral gesteuerter ICO shitcoin, der nun durch zentrale Steuerung auch noch mehr zentralisierter werden soll, denn PoS ist nichts anderes (Proof of Shit), wer sowas promotet, der hat BitCoin nicht verstanden.
...

Zentralisierung³ durch PoS sozusagen???  Cheesy oder aber muß man auch nicht verstehen.



Denk ich aber auch, ich denk mal, dass man das differenzieren muss.
Zur Distribution war PoW perfekt.
Aber wenn alles verteilt ist, müsste eigentlich selbst BTC einsehen, dass ein sauberes PoS besser ist.
Oder wollen wir tatsächlich dann nur noch wegen der Transaktionsgebüren, die ja eigentlich so klein möglich sein sollten zig Megatonnen in die Atmosphäre blasen?

PoW ist absolut nötig. Es ist die einzig sichere Firewall für eine offene BlockChain und klar man muss ständig Arbeit in Systeme reinstecken, insbes in eine Firewall!. Bei PoS ist das zuende und fix nachdem man die Stakes / DB Rechte gekauft hat. Mit PoS ist das System nicht mehr genügend offen / dezentralisierbar und damit eine geschlossene Oligarchie.

Bitte dies nicht darstellen, als wäre PoS Sicher für Bitcoin. Es ist ein Schritt zurück in herkömmliche 'verteilte' Datenbankdesign. Stakeing ist Authority . Nix anneres.

Es gibt genügend Material dazu. Bitte das durcharbeiten bevor Blödsinn gepostet wird.

Einfache Regel

Permanente Sicherheit = kostet permanent Energie.

So isses halt. Nix zu machen
1942  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: September 22, 2019, 10:11:13 AM
I fear we re running (again)  into the age of

User

Activated

Satoshi

Fakes

 Grin
1943  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Adoption! Finally? on: September 21, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
Hodling -> selling to greater fools is not (healthy) adoption.

Use is.

Scarcity is not enough, it is needed, but not everything

Gold has lots of different use cases, so it got to the 4000y old 'store of value'.
1944  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 21, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Gut, um vll mal wieder ne Diskussion hier anzustoßen, behaupte ich folgendes:

Sollte die Implementierung von ETH 2.0 problemlos ablaufen, wird das Flippening spätestens 2021 passieren.

Gründe:
  • Zahl der Developer bei ETH, rasante Entwicklung einer Industrie rund um Ethereum
  • Staking
  • DeFi

ETH ist ein zentral gesteuerter ICO shitcoin, der nun durch zentrale Steuerung auch noch mehr zentralisierter werden soll, denn PoS ist nichts anderes (Proof of Shit), wer sowas promotet, der hat BitCoin nicht verstanden.

Ein PoS Consortium is reine Oligarchie, die nicht mehr wie offenes PoW durch offenen Wettbewerb gechallenged / zerschlagen/ dezentralisiert werden kann. Ich kann nicht verstehen wer das zu Ende gedacht hat und dennoch will.

Wer 'Stake' voting will, der kaufe sich Oracle / Corda DB Lizenzen und baue ein DLT mit anderen, nichts anderes ist PoS
1945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 21, 2019, 12:15:43 PM
[edited out]

Hey, don't dodge the question. How much did "hypothetical" little you buy around $1163 in 2013?

If we are going to deal with reality rather than hypothetical, my first BTC purchase was 1.24 BTC on local bitcoins in the end of November 2013 for $1,200 per bitcoin, which would have been $1,500 for that transaction.



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Lol, its a small blockers jjg and co filling the blocks here, cause he cannot on btc

 Grin
1946  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 21, 2019, 06:15:07 AM
Update on many new projects from Winner

https://mobile.twitter.com/BitcoinAssn/status/1174737468224147456

Edit: one detailed one about bootstrapping

https://youtu.be/JUV3u-jGhXQ
1947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: German Government adopting blockchain strategy on: September 21, 2019, 05:20:40 AM
I just read a news about German government adopting blockchain strategy, Will this have a huge impact on bitcoin and do you think other countries will follow
Germany can be called the leading European state in the field of cryptocurrency and blockchain in general. In general, this state has always been friendly to the use of cryptocurrency. True, now I am a little worried by the statement of the German Finance Minister that since the currency is a key moment in the sovereignty of the state, they will not leave the cryptocurrency in private hands. Apparently, this means the release of cryptocurrency by private individuals. Perhaps it is in this connection that Germany and other countries of the European Union so categorically negatively oppose the circulation of Libra coins on its territory. Of course, private cryptocurrency carries a lot more risk to users than cryptocurrency issued by the state. However, states create only a centralized cryptocurrency and in this regard there will always be a difference between them.


I d rather vote for Switzerland to be the leading state in Europe in terms of blockchain and crypto dev and adoption. Have a look how far FINMA is compared to BAFIN
1948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: German Government adopting blockchain strategy on: September 20, 2019, 08:06:48 AM

As Bitcoin is declared legal in Germany it is right that they should adopt the blockchain technology too for their system. The blockchain is proven fast and secure it could be applicable in any system specially if the security is concern. Like in US Pentagon that they have already applied the blockchain technology to their defense system.

Yes - they looking for a very efficient transparent scalable BLOCKCHAIN tech - I cannot see segwit / LN / cripplechain in it ...
1949  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 19, 2019, 08:35:07 PM
Im Übrigen finde ich es auffällig, dass der aktuell wieder leicht schwächelnden BTC-Kurs zum ersten Mal seit langem wieder einher geht mit einem leichten Erstarken der Shitcoins.
Das könnte auf eine veränderte Dynamik hinweisen, nach der wieder zwischen Coins "umgeschichtet" wird, wie wir das auch in früheren Blasen erlebt haben.
Wenn mich meine Erinnerung nicht trügt, waren solche Umschichtungen im letzten Hype-Cycle typisch für die Anfangsphase der Big Bubble.
Neues ATH noch in diesem Jahr? Mein Bauch sagt 50/50. Cool

Hmm...
Würde man das so weiterspinnen und die vergangenen Zyklen einbeziehen, dann gehen sowohl BTC als auch die Top Altcoins steil, der Tod der Shitcoins wird erneut verschoben.
Ob das noch in diesem Jahr passiert... ja gut, weiß ich nicht. Mein Bauch sagt: keine Ahnung.  Cheesy

Ohne hartes Durchgreifen vom Regulator wird es kaum ein ShitcoinSterben geben. Aber es kommt...

https://www.coindesk.com/doj-brings-extortion-charges-against-early-advisor-to-ethereum-tzero
1950  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 19, 2019, 11:59:50 AM
What happens if u dev & sell shit in the space ( not only crypto ...) :

https://www.coindesk.com/doj-brings-extortion-charges-against-early-advisor-to-ethereum-tzero

https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1174408215674728449?s=19
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum SCAM? on: September 19, 2019, 11:57:04 AM
Even the 'leaders' of ethihirium knew it wouldnt work and was a scam but listen to them here

https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1174408215674728449?s=19




HAHAHAHAHA THEY KNEW ITS A SCAM AND THEY STILL TOOK THE MONEY hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
typical delusional efirium bagholders will defend this

What a shit - now they finally lock ppl up

https://twitter.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1174439011567448064

https://www.coindesk.com/doj-brings-extortion-charges-against-early-advisor-to-ethereum-tzero
1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 19, 2019, 09:08:00 AM














"People are not relevant too much?" Looks like you guys are trying to distance yourselves from Calvin and Craig.  Grin

Looks like the tech has issues chief......might want to speak to the "devs".

Nice scam, make a wallet that doesn't allow withdrawals thats one way to burn coins out of the exchanges. Smiley

There is always the option of boycott, other wallets exist, like https://simply.cash/
If major issues WeiBlock.app would be full of complaints



.  aaand it s very easy to distinguish trolls from constructive critics   Grin
1953  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: September 19, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
Hier mal was zum Regierungs- Kursverlauf   Wink


https://www.blockchain-strategie.de/


Wo geht die Reise hin ?
1954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright is official a fraud on: September 19, 2019, 05:55:15 AM
Come on guys, right from the  start Craig Wright was Wrong when he said he is Satoshi because he can't prove what Vitalik wants him to do which is put a signature using the private key using bitcoin block #1.  Well, there are many things we can add up to prove he is just another conman. But we still give him props because he was one  of the Faketoshi who made it big and have his own cult.

If Vitalik commands u to prove - would u really?

LoL - never


Edit:  Not to this scammy folks ever: https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1174408215674728449?s=19
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 18, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
Pls be serious - there is no reason why that should happen at all.

if we no longer have the right to dream, then where the world is going Cry

You decided to not go the path of a philosopher. U will not find the truth if u believe into dreams
1956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 18, 2019, 12:55:36 PM
The Fed is rushing 53 billion dollars of liquidity into the financial system.

Markets were caught in a "perfect storm" on Tuesday, forcing the U.S. Federal Reserve to intervene for the first time in ten years.
This is the kind of emergency response that brings back bad memories, those of the 2008 financial crisis. The US Federal Reserve (Fed, central bank) was forced to inject $53 billion (€48 billion) of liquidity into the financial system on Tuesday morning to contain the level of interest rates on the repurchase market.

This market allows cash-strapped institutions to find the funds they need to spend the night, by temporarily selling securities in exchange, most often treasury bills. Repurchase operations are low-risk and are financed at rates that are expected to move in the same direction as those of the Fed, within a range of between 2% and 2.25%.

But these repo rates have tightened sharply, reaching 6% on Monday afternoon and 10% on Tuesday morning. Financial markets have been caught in what the Financial Times calls a "perfect storm", forcing the Fed to intervene for the first time in ten years. Clearly, there was no longer any money at a reasonable price and the Central Bank of New York had to make 75 billion dollars of liquidity available urgently (53 billion dollars were consumed).
There are many explanations: first, American companies had to pay their taxes on September 15, which reduced the amount of dollars available. Then, the U.S. Treasury, whose deficits are soaring, held auctions that were supposed to be settled on Monday for $78 billion, and the banks, by subscribing to them, had to consume their reserves in dollars. Finally, the same Treasury had an extremely low level of reserves with the Fed ($184 billion on September 11, compared to an average of $400 billion since 2015) and it would have been tempted to increase the level of its bank account after the debt ceiling was raised by Congress.

This would explain the crisis. According to a source close to the central bankers, it is assured that this is a technical problem and that there are no hidden wolves. Rates had returned to their normal level on Tuesday afternoon.
Nevertheless, the case raises concerns, as the Fed closes its two-day meetings on Wednesday, September 18. A debate is starting to take place as to whether there is enough liquidity in the financial system.

Since the 2008 crisis, the Monetary Institution had bought the banks' claims (the famous quantitative easing) to maintain liquidity in the markets, but it has since reversed its course and reduced the number of securities in its portfolio. As a result, banks have less cash reserves available from the Fed (USD 1,300 billion compared to USD 2,900 billion in 2014), making them more vulnerable to a sudden need for liquidity. Interventions of this type were frequent before the 2008 crisis," says French economist Thomas Philippon, a professor at New York University.

Finally, the Financial Times explores a final possibility, that of the recent ups and downs on the black gold market that could have created a market effect. In addition, there is the problem of Saudi Arabia, the kingdom being partially deprived of dollar revenues with the temporary paralysis of its oil installations. To meet its expenses, Riyadh could have drawn on its dollar reserves.

In any case, the case shows the nervousness of the financial markets despite the accommodating policy of the central banks.


Let us look at it positively, these 53 billion will most probably be squandered in the crypto world BSV - CLOAK - CROWN and others...

Pls be serious - there is no reason why that should happen at all.

1957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion? on: September 18, 2019, 12:52:28 PM
I don't think it's that important, because if we find Satoshi, a lot of people might be disappointed in him.

Fully agree - he is a myth already and many ppl like to have their own idea about what Satoshi should be - and what not
1958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 18, 2019, 11:59:13 AM

I say - only trusted services should run and care about CRITICAL IT infrastructure - esp if it aims for  

       >> GLOBAL FINANCE  ( yes banks, govs, exchanges, merchants ALL INCLUDED = GLOBAL).

I m sure u do not want anyone's money depend on how twitter trolls will collude and decide  on the next CODE FUCK UP like segshit or NO2X next time.  This is utterly LOL - like RBF and many more 'TROLL FEATURES' inside a global finance protocol !

  


You just described XRP  Grin

NOPE - u got it that way - but wrong. XRP is not global at all and is a scam coin / must be registered as security. It's just created out of thin air with no PoW at all.

Its indeed created like any other ICO, just with long sale period...but then again, big chunk of BCH and BSV is created the same way...out of thin air,
piggybacking on BTC success

Segwit was created out of thin air - sorry.

BSV is just locked down Bitcoin from 2009

For Libra, as u might need to learn, watch  FT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gblzpAzikMA

btc is also not the real blockchain any more.

1959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 18, 2019, 10:10:45 AM
Now fraudtoshi aka Craig Wright writes shit about Hal Finney

https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1173953365342117893 (thanks again to Arthur Van Pelt)


Finney was arguably the major contributor to PGP, so his coding skills were top notch.

See what he wrote about Bitcoin, and we KNOW he mined Bitcoin very early.



What did Satoshi think about Finney ?


Two humble ultra skilled coders with mountains of respect for each other. Just the opposite of the fraud wannabe Satoshi.

Thx - nice to see - but u ve proven just nothing - except maybe that Hal was hired by Satoshi - and he got into the stuff - but not as close as Satoshi might ve liked to.

And again - BSV does not need both - its protocol is locked up - no Need for central governance like for any other shitcoin on the plantet.

How good is that?

That's BitCoin
1960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: September 18, 2019, 07:22:27 AM

I say - only trusted services should run and care about CRITICAL IT infrastructure - esp if it aims for  

       >> GLOBAL FINANCE  ( yes banks, govs, exchanges, merchants ALL INCLUDED = GLOBAL).

I m sure u do not want anyone's money depend on how twitter trolls will collude and decide  on the next CODE FUCK UP like segshit or NO2X next time.  This is utterly LOL - like RBF and many more 'TROLL FEATURES' inside a global finance protocol !

  


You just described XRP  Grin

NOPE - u got it that way - but wrong. XRP is not global at all and is a scam coin / must be registered as security. It's just created out of thin air with no PoW at all.
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