Just keeping everyone up to date : signature bounty is halfway done I'll do the rest tomorrow (been working on it for the past 8h so in less than 24h this will be completed). After that I'll open up appeal form if someone thinks there was a miscalculation done on his part - you'll have 5 days after that the signature count will be final no more changes after that date. I'll provide further info on how you will be able to claim your bounties tomorrow as well  stay tuned! P.S. for all of those asking when you will get your bounties (cause I have been asked for many times and probably will be many times more  ) - bounties cannot be paid before main net launch so you will get them the same time as main net launches as all other will get their tokens at that time. What's about refund? 24Hrs have passed and still no update...How do we claim refund?
The official statement will be in the next 24h on the process. |
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Lisk is all BS
Relax! You don't need a Bachelor of Science to understand Lisk |
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I would assume you are looking... If it is Lisk who knows if that network will function enough to even send them lol.. Let me check this out.... Yep! Mainnet rock like a star! Particularly between ex-supporters & poloniex... |
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Well I do agree with you on that one! During the ICO, Jani & other team members where here almost every day to answer any questions we had.
Like you, I was in regular touch with Jani & even build with another funder the (now defunct) iconomi.rocket.chat with the intent to provide a first class LIVE helpdesk channel in behalf of ICONOMI.
As soon as the ICO ended, we got no support as promised and all our emails/messages are left unanswered. Even the slack channel originally moderated by Jaka went dead.
I do understand the team is probably busy trying to develop the funds but going missing particularly with the funders is unacceptable.
Also, I would rather prefer to get a weekly update on ICONOMI's development instead of reading unnecessary blogs about the psychology behind ICO funding. We didn't fund writers but a financial platform that so far has not delivered what we've been promised (just my personal opinion...)
A large part of the collected funds is earmarked for the ICONOMI.performance fund that aims to invest in other good ICO projects. But how do you tell good projects from bad? It turns out that it's quite complicated and many factors have to be taken into account. The recent series on ICOs wants to show our thinking behind ICO evaluation and get feedback from the community and the ICONOMI investors. That said, while a few of us are very busy analysing different ICOs and speaking to potential investments, the devs are working hard on developing the platform. Wednesday 21st December we'll give access to the very first few from our early access list (we expect feedbacks from those users). Maybe same day, maybe within next 2-3days early access will be given to all on early access list.
A day after access willl be given to all 3,508 investors.
Wednesday 28th December is THE launch date for all.
This is Jani's post on a recent reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5hd6de/its_almost_middecember_whats_the_official_launch/?st=iwm2indj&sh=3bf85687 , where we also hold regular Q&A sessions. I would hardly call that missing |
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you seem like a cool guy, don't take it bad Why should I? |
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can we have some updates regarding refunds?
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have you ever heard of bot trading? What is the idea behind a sell wall? Motivating people to buy cheaply before the wall gets hit or what? Whatever... Most if not all crypto are bot traded. it is a long-established and legitimate activity, & it’s easier than anywhere in the cryptocurrency markets. These "wall" appearing & disappearing are created to either inflate, deflate or stabilise a value. It's called price manipulation and some guys are making money out of it. |
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have you ever heard of bot trading? |
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What is your favorite Lisk is also a lot of things promised and nothing has been done so far. Go to poke a stick in Max, it seems dead. (just my personal opinion...) Yes Lisk is one the many projects I'm involved with. As for you, please tel us why you call yoursel LiskQH? and why do you define yourself a "Lisk Wolf"? |
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it will be a long way till the price will go UP to 1$ looong loong way....
It will never reach 1$ unless it will be on poloniex which it will not be, since this coin is full of shit. If they would normally reply to their investors, than mayby. Communication is key! If u are not transparent to your investors, than u don't deserve to have succes. Well I do agree with you on that one! During the ICO, Jani & other team members where here almost every day to answer any questions we had. Like you, I was in regular touch with Jani & even build with another funder the (now defunct) iconomi.rocket.chat with the intent to provide a first class LIVE helpdesk channel in behalf of ICONOMI. As soon as the ICO ended, we got no support as promised and all our emails/messages are left unanswered. Even the slack channel originally moderated by Jaka went dead. I do understand the team is probably busy trying to develop the funds but going missing particularly with the funders is unacceptable. Also, I would rather prefer to get a weekly update on ICONOMI's development instead of reading unnecessary blogs about the psychology behind ICO funding. We didn't fund writers but a financial platform that so far has not delivered what we've been promised (just my personal opinion...) And one finale point for the newbies: Don't expect ICN to reach a $ it won't happen this year, neither next year. Remember ICN are tokens that will pay out dividends to investors, that's all. The real deal will be with the funds that ICONOMI plan to create. Expect a lot of dump in the coming days since everyone will want to enter the funds and will need liquidity in order to do so. |
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Should change the name of the project from LISK to Max? Max is the CEO, he holds all the funds, he is a delegate too, he uses advisory fund to vote for himself and his friends, he uses his own account to vote for his friends. Where is decentralisation in LISK?
As the CEO, Max rightly hold some funds but he's far from the only one and obviously your are not one of them |
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Why Max and developers, still did not remove the voices from delegates? Why they told lies? They promised to make it at once.
They do it that the circle of their friends could catch enough free Lisk to vote the friend for the friend?
It is corruption. Developers should not vote. The community has to solve.
Max has started to unvote folks. Thanks to his backup, trustworthy delegates (who proved so with testnet) were selected & prioritised ahead of opportunists to secure the mainnet in its early days. Now that the network is stable, the community will progressively take over. I wonder if you would still talk like this if you would have been selected... obviously your anger reflect differently |
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Why don't you implement some 2fa function on your web wallet ?
You can set a second passphrase for added security. In the event that your first passphrase is compromised, your second passphrase is still required for every transaction. And is it possible to vote offline for delegates ( like offline sign with electrum in bitcoin) or do my coins have to be in an online account all the time ?
no is it not possible to vote/transact offline. |
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How do we claim refund?
The official statement will be in the next 24h on the process. Thx |
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So how much lisk would I need to vote myself into the top 100? I really want to help start projects and help the project, I won't dump any, pinky promise lol
the fucked up thing is, if you bought enough to guarantee one node, you actually guarantee yourself enough to forge all 101 delegate spots. think about that shit.... Man you should seriously review your language skills.... honestly! It really doesn't look good for a PR to speak the way you do. |
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scam, fraud and corruption.... same blabla over & over.... what are you still doing here? I really wonder... |
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the answers are clear in the FAQ and WhitePaper So what does the FAQ and whitepaper say is the answer to my scenario I outlined to Jani below? I never found a clear answer there. "Finally, at some time in 1Q 2017 you will make your first dividend payment to the original ICO participants who funded the ICNP original $4.6M. Say for example you invested $500K of ICNP money in the ICO of a new coin. In the week after launch, that coin doubles in price so your $500K investment is now worth $1M, giving an ICNP profit of $500K total. 20% of that $500K or $100K is the amount of profit to be distributed among the original ICO participants.
WHERE DO YOU GET THIS $100K TO DISTRIBUTE AS ETH DIVIDENDS?
Specifically, do you sell 10% of your holdings in the new coin at the end of the first week and hold on to the other 90%? Or do you get the money for dividend distribution from some other source? And if this, WHAT other source?"Mal, this answer is simple, I apologize if it was not addressed before. But first, let me again say that the fees for ICNX or ICNP have not yet been confirmed, so this is just hypothetical ... If ICNP would have 20/2 fee structure, then 20% of all REALISED PROFITS would go from ICNP to ICONOMI as fees. But "realised profits" means that ICNP has to CLOSE its position in that "new coin" first. Only if ICNP liquidates whole $1M investment, then $100k (20% of 500k profit) go as fees to ICONOMI. And this can later be distributed as dividends to ICN token holders. And since vast majority of ICNP's investments will be done in digital currency, so will be later liquidations... For example ICNP recently invested 5000 ETH in Golem, and I expect when this position will close, ICNP will do sell it for ETH... Clear? best, Jaka Since dividends won't be paid regularly and not before q1-q2 2017, I guess the real deal are the funds, not ICN in itself. I've the feeling a lot will dump ICN in order to enter into the funds. Also why Golem? BOINC does the same and are already well established. Beside Golem are not going to deliver before 2018 (if they ever deliver...) so liquidation/return will not take place in a near future... |
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