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2801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 21, 2017, 04:25:28 AM

How is the price of BCH "quite low?" Over 5 billion in market cap and a price similar to what BTC lingered at for much of 2015. It's abundantly clear 2017 has spoiled many people.  Roll Eyes

i like your opinion
but it's not fundamental
with make a based price from 2015
so u think BCH is seriously continue with history of BTC ?  Huh

I really do not think Ver nor Jihan are going to let their baby fester into oblivion. Ver is probably a Bitcoin billionaire; and Jihan is close to one, if not one outright. And that is only two supporters of this coin. How many coins out there have the backing of at least two billionaires? This coin is going to eventually be the go to coin for every big block advocate out there. Sorry, 2x blocks just isn't enough to satisfy big blockers. And many absolute hate Segwit. (Jihan is one because he can't use ASICBoost with Segwit. What good is Segwit to him when it makes his patented technology obsolete?)
2802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2017, 04:18:37 AM
Market Cap $0.101T Shocked

$6100 incoming? TONGIHT?? TUNITE?? SOON?


Market Cap$0.102T

NAO!

Too bad that I quit drinking years ago. This calls for some champagne. I live in Colorado, though. Guess some Skunk Galaxy Kush will have to suffice.  Grin
2803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2017, 04:11:13 AM
Bitcoin ELIMINATOR. For when just segregating the witness data isn't enough.

Is that the name of the suppository we should use to flush our systems from all of these forks?
2804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2017, 04:05:16 AM
hey guys, check out my new fork  BITCOIN DOMINATOR EXXTREME ULTIMATE PLATINUM!

Are you hardcore enough for this coin?

Is it 16X powered, with EDA-SuperMegaAsicBoost built in?

Seems very similar to some toys available at the local adult bookstore, or the Adam and Eve webpage.  Grin Let me guess, they will come in both green and red colored varieties...
2805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 21, 2017, 03:48:19 AM
Now the price of BCH is quite low. If the developer makes a number of serious announcements, then the price can well go up.

How is the price of BCH "quite low?" Over 5 billion in market cap and a price similar to what BTC lingered at for much of 2015. It's abundantly clear 2017 has spoiled many people.  Roll Eyes
2806  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 21, 2017, 03:42:12 AM


So, you have to be clearer; do we dump BTG then, or not ? Just asking . . .  Smiley


Well, yeah there could be some BTG factor, too, perhaps.  But BTG is not the total explanation for our current pump, nor is it the explanation that currently Alts seem to be dumping... the issue is likely a bit deeper than questions about what to do with BTG and whether BTC holders and/or buyers even know what the fuck BTG is (besides some of us nerdy folks following this thread).

I doubt BTG has much to do with this pump. I have a suspicion that it will probably be worth next to nothing. I am certainly not going to keep my BTC in stasis from October 25, 2017 until sometime in November when they release it. If I end up screwing up any potential BTG I get, oh well.
2807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2017, 02:17:12 AM


So, one of my problems, currently with my Bitfinex holdings relates to my Ethereum Classic holdings and my Monero holdings. I don't have any other wallet or exchange or location in which I can hold such coins. For the purpose of just managing those two coins, I am thinking about opening either a Poloniex account or a Kraken account.. In that regard, I am thinking that I have to have a means to liquidate them quickly and easily, if I so choose.. .  



     Poloniex is OK, but there is no option to withdraw or deposit fiat via wire transfers, AFAIK. (Only USDT, tether) Furthermore, they have margin lending. XMR is one of the coins you can lend. But not ETC.
     I have little experience with Kraken, but the word from the grapevine is that their interface can be particular slow/unresponsive at times: more so than other exchanges.
     Bittrex is OK too, but AFAIK, I think they also do no have wire transfer options. Plus, there is some controversy as of late because there was a major dump on most of their alts in a short time; and they are doing a "security audit" that has locked quite a few people's accounts. Furthermore, if you have a dynamic IP, it may be a bit of a hassle to log in.
2808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2017, 07:06:24 PM
i'm sorry. why is it BCH in Poloniex?

The BCC ticker was already taken by Bitcoin Connect. BCH is an acceptable alternate ticker. However, Polo does not list Bitcoin Connect. 
2809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Gold Mining on: October 17, 2017, 06:53:19 PM
Only problem with Bitcoin Gold is that it is going to be distributed to everyone that has Bitcoin. Expect a lot of dumping on the markets when it makes its debut. By the time you move your coins from pool to market, it's profitability may vanish.
2810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2017, 06:26:12 PM
And I was about to buy a fuckzillion antminers and they're only taking bcash

If that is really true then they are desperate. Jihan is on the brink of bankruptcy.


It's true. Read item # 4 under payments. Not just latest batch of S9, but L3 too.

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020171017100722398DVYSGAeU067B
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020171012101234461U4tES2cP065E

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4. Only BCC payment method is accepted in this batch, please use the exact amount mentioned in your order and complete the payment within one hour. After one hour, the order will expire and your payment may not be detected by the system automatically. Payment must be in BCC. We cannot accept payment in BTC. If you send BTC to the BCC wallet the coins may be lost. If the payment is submitted but the receipt is delayed, we will make your payment "Valid" manually

Currently, the BCC blocks are coming at an average of about 40 minutes. Guess if you order, you have to hope there isn't bad "luck" on the network, that would make the confirmation more than an hour...

2811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 17, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
Well, looks like my earlier speculative analysis was total BS.  Cheesy I didn't see that breakout coming.
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2017, 03:08:36 AM
So question, is BCH ever going to get pumped again? Wondering when I should jettison the rest.  Huh

In the short term, it "might" experience a sucker's rally due to all the fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding the S2X fork. The rally may even be enhanced if the fork actually has negative consequences.  However, many will opt to hedge by picking any old alt that strikes their fancy, or make an exit with fiat. If the S2X fork is of no consequence, expect more dumping of BCH when people start getting the all clear signals. (Many have held their airdropped BCH to this point, as some kind of hedge to the S2X fork.) I wouldn't expect it to pump again until an extended consolidation period that may come after Coinbase users get their BCH in January.(I don't think it will happen at all if nothing is done to repeal and replace the EDA feature.)
2813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 16, 2017, 11:05:34 PM
I agree with the distribution phase idea, and wonder what the low price point will be when it's done...

Although the price is important, you actually have to look at the possible mindset of any holders who are not exactly staunch Bitcoin Cash supporters. Bitcoin Cash may see a slight rally coming up, as the impending Segwit2x fork draws closer. However, many may simply chose to get a hedge on this expected event by converting their BTC to fiat or other alts, so the rally may be tiny. Once the Segwit2x fork drama is in play, if it is not going well for the other chains, expect this rally to continue, and this will probably be a good time to consider accumulating. However, if it appear the fork is going well for either new forks, expect a dump of BCH. Many people have decided to HODL the original BCH that they received as a hedge for this upcoming fork. Once they feel they have the "all clear" signals after the fork, they are liable to feel they no longer need the hedge and dump. The other dumping phase will begin after Coinbase distribute the BCH to their users in January. After this all plays out for a couple of weeks, I think the accumulation phase for Bitcoin Cash will definitely have arrived.
2814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BCH kill BTCSegWit while reinstating BTCSatoshi? on: October 16, 2017, 08:59:29 PM
Why on Earth would Wu implement this attack on the mainnet? It would likely end up killing his goose that lays golden eggs for him. With the low liquidity in the markets, he would likely only gain a small morsel of foie gras from this. Even if he tried to implement this attack on the down low, since his company is the one most likely to implement such an attack, he would be under extreme suspicion and become anathema to the community.
It would probably be more prudent from him to demonstrate that this attack is possible on a testnet. After releasing his demonstration, he would be seen as the hero; confidence in Core would be shaken; and people would likely buy up BCH and anoint it as the true bitcoin.
I suppose that it is possible that even if he demonstrated it with a testnet, the people that have swallowed the Blockstream Kool-Aid would discredit it, even if valid. Perhaps a black hat demonstration on the mainnet would be the only demonstration that would get through to them.  Cheesy

2815  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread on: October 16, 2017, 08:37:56 PM
Which chain is the S9 hash going to be pointed to? I gather that it will probably be the seg2x chain. <Sigh>, looks like I am going to have to liquidate my S9 hash soon since I don't want to be participating in mining that fork. That really sucks since I haven't ROI. Thankfully, it's only 157 MH.
2816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 16, 2017, 08:27:08 PM

WOW!!!!!

I initially thought that Bitfinex were going to restrict USA customers from fiat bank encounters and a few other asset trading restrictions - yet this announcement appears to be a complete severance of USA customers from any kind of service on their platform... ... seemingly too much liability for Bitfinex to have USA exposure... would be a prudent move for them, but gonna screw around a lot of USA folks who are currently using their platform.. and had wanted access to some of that Hong Kong based market (arbitrage or whatever).

Guess that I will definitely be losing some dust. I haven't used them since they were brought back online after the hack in the summer of 2016. Unfortunately, during my hasty exodus, I managed to leave some dust behind. They can keep my 0.15(XXXXX) USD, 2784 sats BTC and 2377 sats BCC.  Grin I gather that Spoofy isn't associated with a US customer. I think Spoofy is actually an alien anyway. https://twitter.com/bones261/status/917980409417359361
2817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: October 16, 2017, 03:34:10 AM
^

It's not about "weak" hands. It's about money. If it's going down to $150, why hold on to it at $300? Keep the money on the side lines and get double BCH instead of one but I gladly will promise to hold on to my BCH if you donate me 1 2 3 or more BCH. *lol* Lips sealed

I implied that the accumulation stage has not started, yet. I see a consolidation trend with BTC/BCH market, over the past couple of days. I speculate that we are still in the distribution phase. So the right move is to distribute your BCH to someone else. (ie treat it like a cheap whore.  Grin)
2818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 16, 2017, 03:04:22 AM


So basically we're looking at a repeat of BCH. There will be a split, BTC will dump to make room for the new token/s, then the new token/s will slowly die, bleeding back into BTC. That the long and short of it?

Unfortunately, this fork, at its current state, is much more dangerous than BCH since the S2X devs have not enabled strong replay protection at this time. AFAIK, they briefly included some bullshit opt-out protection where people would have to include some dust transaction to a certain address; if they wanted the transaction to only be played on the BTC chain. (This would have effectively bloated the BTC chain)  However, I believe even that BS has been yanked. I hope Garzik does the right thing and implements strong opt-in protection. If not, this may be a mess. We could hope that no pool dare go through with it; just like they did with XT, Classic, and BU. However, S2X has a definite coordinated block number and an "agreement" with this fork. Therefore, many pools might be emboldened to take the plunge with this fork.

I'm hoping Slush implements an easy way to split my coins in my Trezor wallet. However, I think many casual users may end up losing coins. Some of these instructions on splitting your coins made by Bitmex make my eyes glaze over. https://blog.bitmex.com/segwit2x-b2x-hardfork-protect-potentially-profit-part-1-split-coins/
2819  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 16, 2017, 12:44:46 AM


Another case of oversold.   Cry Cry Tongue

How is selling .01 BTC at 53xx being oversold? Especially when the market rose like $500 USD the last time that I made a trade. I'm now employing the same system you are employing. Unfortunately, there hasn't been many dips lately to properly get the BTC back.


There are several of us who have boat loads of bitcoin and we never employed leverage to get them.  We either dollar cost average bought or bought on dips and maybe just sold small amounts as the price goes up to buy back, and with a key component of either hodling when the price is going down or buying.

You probably still don't have as much a Spoofy.  Grin You really think Spoofy actually owns all that fiat and BTC to put up those walls on Bitfinex?
2820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2017, 11:56:14 PM

So.. take loan then bail with the tools offered by that legal system of that per said country?? .. CooL!!! Smiley

Meanwhile in BTC troLaLaLand... :




Yep, that's they way you do it. Don't worry; the banks will make it up by loaning more of their proof of debt currency to poor sheeple who actually think they are morally obligated to pay their debts.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag
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