@mprep
Why are you even wasting your time on this person. He doesn't have a life! This pointless argument can go on forever and just wastes your precious time.
I was just having some fun. Considering his last response, I feel my work here is done since it's no fun discussing with someone who not only keeps repeating himself but also ignores any explanation to his inaccurate accusations. Guess this month's "poke the pompous prick" carnival ride broke and I'll have to wait for the next one. |
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@mprep, when you deleted this thread where did it go? BitNet (official) did not receive copies of those deleted posts in his PM inbox. I archived that thread, but I had edited the last post of the thread and added some important links in the last post in that thread which I wasn't able to capture in another archive before you nuked the thread. Can you please return that valuable work to me? I expended hours finding the links I needed for my future research.This is research work for my project and I don't appreciate it when you nuke my work and don't return copies to me!! Damn it!  I know you are a complete dunce and don't understand the incredible technical expertise in that thread you nuked. That was a very important thread for coalescing the debate between @dinofelis and myself about whether Satoshi's design was genius or not. It contains highly technical analysis which is probably beyond your level of comprehension. Please don't tell me the data is lost forever. With a blockchain, this will never happen! Your ban evading account was nuked by another mod (that being a ban and auto-deletion of all posts, only possible on Newbie rank users). Also you don't receive notifications for deleted threads (just posts), however if you PM Cyrus and/or theymos, who have access over deleted content (especially in theymos' case), I'm sure they'll provide you the BB code and text. Even if they didn't, by the time you were posting on your Bitnet account, you were already refused service and merely used deception and secrecy to maintain unrestricted access to this site. I am Shelby Moore III. My photos and LinkedIn are public knowledge. @mprep who are you in real life?
Don't tell me you are going to hide behind anonymity while you make such slanderous allegations and misrepresentations. If you believe you are correct, then certainly you can put your real name on it, as I have done. What sort of slanderous allegations have I put forward? You do know that my opinion of your behavior and character isn't considered slander, since I'm not claiming any sort of facts, but merely providing a perspective of how I perceive your demeanour? Also, my identity should matter the least to you - according to you, I'm stupid and insignificant, did you already forget? Or do you simply want to boast how much better, more skilled and experienced than me you are, in an attempt to discredit my arguments about your IMHO clear superiority complex? |
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(note this post is made from the same IP address @iamnotback used)
@mprep, you're very slow to understand. Let's try one more time to drill some simple information into your retarded brain...
Readers note that the reason I am not restraining myself because the clusterfuck software here doesn't offer the features needed for me to operate amicably within my followers set, while allowing me to filter out all the riff-raff outside my followers set (presuming my followers would typically choose to filter the posts according to my moderation decisions). I am responding in kind to the abuse being levied against my 4 years of work. Also I am obviously trying to maximally offend @mprep to make a philosophical point that when we grow up and enter the real world, we come to understand that we don't have any control whatsoever over others and only some control over ourselves. @mprep can be offended until his head explodes, yet he will never be able to control me. And I have no desire whatsoever to control him. Sure, you're not restraining yourself not because of your ego but because you can't have your own dedicated echo chamber. Also if you're trying to offend me - enjoy trying. I'm merely having fun with someone who's of above average intelligence yet thinks he's a visionary genius. You're merely the flavor of the month self-entitled prick - controlling you (as in unrelated to my job as a moderator) is of my least priority. Ironic how you lecture about none of us having control yet you actively keep coming back trying to fight anyone who disagrees with you or attempt to shut down or at least dominate discussions that didn't go your way. It is a delusional ludicrous concept that because this is a privately owned forum, thus they have the incentive to abuse 4 years of investment in their forum made by an expert such as myself. What they have accomplished is made me see very clearly the very strong demand for a decentralized forum. BCT will decline in a waterfall collapse within the next year or two.
Did anyone notice LTC declined to below 0.011 yesterday as I had precisely predicted in this thread when the price was much higher. You really seem to struggle to not stroke your ego while trying to make your point. Putting that aside, you're free to back all your posts up and host them somewhere where you're welcome (writing a scraper for someone like you shouldn't cause much trouble, won't it?). Every time a post is deleted, you should've received a deletion PM - backup that too. Other than that Bitcointalk owes you nothing - it provided a service for free and it can revoke that service at any point in time (which it did for breaking the rules multiple times). If you don't like it, go and actually spend the time developing that decentralized forum software you keep talking about, instead of trying to prove a point your followers probably already agree with and other people don't give a crap about. It will be more hilarious when what I have written comes true and you eat humble pie.
You are not an expert. Thus you can't very well discern fact from opinion. Great, then stop talking and start building. Also, it doesn't take an expert to tell that your ideology of centralized systems being inferior in every way to even the most basic decentralized ones is an opinion, not a fact. No man (are you?). I don't derive any pleasure from wasting my time with worthless morons like you.
You're so self-important.
What have you ever accomplished @mprep?
As I said, once we have the decentralized forum with the proper set of features, then I won't even need to respond to idiots any more. I will just click "delete" and all my followers who choose me as the moderator for my threads, will not view those posts (their client will automatically filter them but of course they could go peek at them if they wanted to but eventually they will come to see that my moderation decisions are expert and accurate). As for the riff-raff, you'll be able to see all your nonsensical noise trolling, which is perfect. Highlighted for irony. You seem to have an obsession with achievements, acolades and appraisals of your intelligence. While I can understand and sympathize with the reason behind it, I can't really sympathize with a person who berates others for not chasing pointless social validation, that in the end will be forgotten by all come pass a few generations. We may be vain creatures, but try being at least a bit self-aware about it. Is this your final idiotic reply? You're baiting and you know it. Do you ever do any real work? I've been working. Where can we see your work? My work can be seen in the shit I clean every day, dropped by serial visionaries like you. Unlike you, I don't try to pretend I'm important. I'm a digital janitor in a small to medium community. What I think you're mistaking as "self-importance" is my thorough annoyance and dislike towards people like you - vain, egoistic lunatics, who think they're hot shit, just because they achieved something in life. News flash: to me, you're just another guy dragging his ass across the floor I try to keep clean for people who actually enjoy being here. Frame this. This is going to be so humiliating in retrospect.
@mprep, you are obviously not capable of distinguishing expertise from trolling.
But obviously you've dug in your heels as all idiots do. So please dig them in deep, so when the time comes, you can't climb out of your tar pit.
Just when I thought you calmed down, you're back to ranting how I'll regret everything and how I'm an idiot. Figures... Censoring content that some readers want to read in order to have all content be acceptable to add readers (i.e. the least common denominator clusterfuck) is destructive to network effects. You're concept of constructive dialogue seems to revolve around personality. But entirely the point is that we should have a common hub for discussion but allow different groups to prioritize/filter what content they don't wish to interact with. So that everyone can co-exist in the greater economies-of-scale of a common nexus of activity without forcing all users to the least common denominator.
With a proper forum software design, every user could filter the posts differently, thus your view of the database (and any of your followers) would reflect your opinion of what is of value.
I of course don't agree with your estimation of the value of my expertise and content. This should be falsifiable. We'll have a truth metric eventually on the Bitnet decentralized forum wherein we can compare the number of followers I will have to anyone else on this forum.
I predict you will have humble pie rammed so far up your ass the you vomit it out the other end where all the bullshit normally flows out. Your usual "dick measuring contest" crap aside, great. You have your idea of a perfect community, so enjoy developing and managing it. As long as it's not here. I created Cool Page which was a million user downloaded software back at the turn of the century when the Internet was 1/10th the population it is now. Obviously the theme of that product was making website creation and publishing drag-drop and "one click publishing" (this was before others copied the concept). So I am very much aware of user friendly issues and human nature. So obviously I had a long-time ago already thought of the issue you raise above and had already solved the issue. I am not going to tell you now how I will solve the issue, because I am not going to give you or any competitors to my idea any premature assistance. Awesome. Since you seem to have both the tech and social design down, the only possible pitfall for the project is that the dev is an emotionally unstable asshole. That and possible societal changes in the past 20 years. Nobody even knows the feature exists. On top of that, trust is not something that we need immediately when using this forum. It is something we might need as a refinement later. Whereas, the filtering of posts is something we are very much battling over and aware of. There is an entire game theory on Reddit about how to get posts ranked higher, etc.. Posting and readership is the primary activity here. Trust is not. Fair point. And it really offends you doesn't it. How dare I come here and become more important than a mod or Theymos or even eventually possibly more important than Satoshi (although I hope this doesn't happen because it will destroy my life). Your ego issue is your problem. Not really. See my previous comments in this post for clarification. Also, it isn't even Christmas and your dishing out gifts one after the other: the irony of a self-entitled self-righteous smug guy lecturing me about how my ego is the main problem is sweeter than honey. I won't even know you exist any more. You are an entirely irrelevant grain of sand for me.
You were only ephemerally relevant because I allowed you to be, because I was attempting to use this BCT for discussion. Yet you keep coming back every time I post an answer to your bullshit. Hipocrate through and through, ain't ya? Also, that cult leader comparison is getting more and more apt. I don't tolerate. I disrupt and improve. I've always been that way, even since before age 5.
I pushed BCT as far as it could go, and then BCT failed, which was the push I need to Cross the Rubicon. That's what assholes say to justify their inconsiderate and self-centered actions. Another keyboard revolutionist that argues with a janitor about how the place should be round instead of a square... Someone like you would have said the same thing to Satoshi if he had been discussing Bitcoin years before its launch.
Idiots can't ever see beyond the tip of their nose. Except Satoshi wasn't a self-important dick (comparing yourself to Satoshi, really?) who thought his ideas / systems were perfect (or at least he didn't show it). Then why did you have checkboxes signifying a checklist of violations alleged against @iamnotback justifying his ban as quoted below: [X] Ignore this, as well as countless efforts by global mods to reduce sig spam while still maintaining a free space for constructive discussion. Now you're just lying and backsplaining. Shelby has never advertized any signature spam on any of his accounts.
You're delusional and trying to reaffirm your confirmation bias. Again, not quite sure how this applies to you. Why aren't you banning @smooth, @Icebreaker, @generalizethis and all the Monero supporters who have continuously complained about Dash. You're stating that the forum policy is to disallow discussion about possible scams.  Dude I think you've dropped all the marbles out of your skull. For a man of your "intelligence" you sure are having a lot of difficulty in understanding that possible scams aren't moderated to allow the community (or in some cases official authorities) to make their opinions on what is a scam and what isn't. Or are you trolling again (something you claimed you weren't doing, but merely providing "expertise")? How are you going to lie and backsplain what you wrote in that context insinuating that I had violated a policy by complaining about scams in a random thread as quoted below: I wasn't complaining about lack of forum moderation of scams. Sigh, you truly are thicker than you comprehend (that or you're pathetically trying to grasp at straws that aren't even there). The checklist was an expressive form of "checking off" all the obvious answers the user ignored (that being the explanation of why possible scams aren't moderated, the efforts of global mods to enforce stricter guidelines) as well as pointing out the user's disposition towards people holding a different opinion. A suggestion for next time: before attacking someone, make sure the statements are actually aimed at you. Are you so delusional that you're pretending that I am butthurt because you've got yourself mired in a centralized clusterfuck that is dying  As much as you try to deny it, you're still here, you're still replying to my posts while simultaneously talking about how you're not going to post here anymore. Stop pretending that your forum has any remaining value to me. I have no desire whatsoever to contribute content to your corrupt business.
@ArticMine please do not request that I am unbanned. Don't worry at all. We will all have a much better place for discussion soon. BCT will die. Yet you're here, doing exactly that. Ironic, huh? Try to stop me if you can.  You can't. When it comes to this forum, we'll sure as hell try. Sure you can do that for your followers, but to impose your (imo erroneous) opinion of the quality of my activity on my followers is the corruption and theft.
But no worries, the end is near of this clusterfuck morass. I didn't ban you for trolling nor have I (AFAIK) deleted your trolling posts - not quite sure how my opinion on your posts factors in all of this. I've only dealt with your ban evasion, a few consecutive posts and your cripplingly paradoxical character traits (which confirmed my suspicions on you being a troll). @mprep, I think we're beating a dead horse. Let it die already. Move on. We're wasting time and effort. We're never going to agree. The outcome won't be known until a future juncture.
You are free to stop at any time. For me, this is merely verbal exercise that I enjoy partaking in my free time. |
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So this has turned into a discussion wherein the mod of Altcoin Discussion (the subforum where Shelby did most of his posting over the years), is explaining that he is clueless and delusional. So I think this deserves one final clarification for the official record, so when we look back on this some years later, we will realize that Shelby was correct about this issue at hand, and @mprep had his head so far up his asshole that he couldn't even see the bark on the trees, not to mention seeing over the weeds. Even the biblical must acknowledge Jesus said he came bearing a sword, and of course wise parables for those whose eyes were open. Don't expect me to be nice to idiots who steal the property of others even (or especially) when they don't even realize they are doing it. I've found in the past that in order to have an amicable relationship with idiots, I must just nod my head and keep my IQ to myself. I was quite a popular person when I did this in high school and college, but here on this forum I was doing serious work and speaking about serious matters, so unfortunately the strife with idiots will proliferate. The only way to avoid this is to do what I am doing, which preparing to disrupt the centralized paradigm wherein idiots have exclusive control over anything. Of course, I have no qualms about idiots having control over their own circle jerk self-destruction zone. And this is why Shelby will never come back to Bitcointalk.org under any circumstances. Let's just set the record straight and be done with this discussion.
@mprep, you're delusional. Let's explain why. Of course, none of this explanation will make any sense to you, because you are a clueless idiot and so for you sensible is nonsense and nonsense is sensible. It's hilarious to see how delusional you are in your apparent "intellectual superiority", berating anyone who disagrees with any of your opinions (e.g. your fetishistic levels of attraction towards decentralizing everything, whether it's actually viable or not). You seem to derive nearly ecstatic pleasure from touting your own horn about how intelligent you are, how your IQ is so much higher than those around you and how everyone that doesn't recognize that is an "idiot". Since you're so well-educated, I don't think you'll have any issues in digesting this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect. I find it rather fitting when talking to someone who's all bark and no bite (ping me when one of your decentralized forum projects takes over the industry). Also, is this your final-final-final clarification or should I get more popcorn for the next one? Thus the policy of Bitcointalk.org is that expertise is trolling. Expertise isn't. Your self-righteous rants about how great you are are. Effectively the policy and your idiocy is to create forum which has the least common denominator of expertise. This is the Chinese Communism where no one dared lift their head above the poppy seeds so to speak, i.e. no one dared disagree and display their expertise publicly. Nope, it's to maintain a free space for constructive discussion, rather than allow a single person to dominate discussions via fallacies, pointless ad-hominem filled rants or outright spam. You're so clueless that you still haven't figured out that the salient distinction is that with a decentralized forum, all centralized power is vanquished, and if you can't stomach my superior expertise then you can choose to filter my posts from your view of the decentralized database, but in no case will idiots like you have any power to steal the property of others just because you're offended by their vastly superior expertise. My statement above will be a confirmation for you of all the justification you think you have for doing the inane, worse-than-useless, destructive, corrupt, thievery busywork that you do. Note this isn't a complaint. Rather it is myself finally coming to accept that I must write software to provide a place where idiots like yourself can't do the destruction that you do. Oh, I'm quite aware of your stance on centralized systems as well as it's decentralized counterpart's advantages. However, as with all theoretical systems, quite a few fall apart in practice due to unforeseen social issues. You keep mentioning setting up your own moderators that would apply filters to the content you want to see but you seem to assume that an average person using the internet isn't lazy (which is one of the reasons why quite a few of such systems still haven't gained wide mainstream acceptance (e.g cryptocurrencies) and why successful commercial consumer systems often prioritize convenience above all else (e.g. Twitter, Google, Tinder)). A rather close to home example of such laziness is the general use of the Trust system, which was meant for users to set their own "trusted users" yet ended in most people simply using DefaultTrust. But hey, you're the expert here - if you manage to solve this and gain mainstream acceptance, I'll add in "successful" alongside "self-entitled and self-righteous smug hypocrite with a massive ego" whenever I refer to you (not that you would care about what an "idiot" does, right?). Lol, then why don't you get that Bitcointalk.org is fragile and is destroying itself. I can only imagine it must be because you are an idiot. “No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.” - Winston S. Churchill. Until someone develops a superior community system (and by that I mean that not only does it not have unique significant technical or social (including wide acceptance) flaws of it's own but also fixes the main issues of the best currently available system), I'll tolerate the flaws of the best system we currently have. Shelby doesn't respect your centralized piece-of-shit forum, your centralized moderation, your rules, nor other idiots like @dinofelis, @Dorky, and a long list of others. That is his prerogative; and the fact that you can stop him and others from having our own choices is the reason that Bitcointalk is dying and it will be replaced by a decentralized vehicle wherein you idiots can have your choices separately from Shelby and his followers from their choice.
Have you ever tried to order "one size fits all" clothing.
Aren't you getting a clue of how incredibly dumb you are. "Everyone that disagrees with me is dumb and I shall lead those who follow me to salvation". For someone who keeps touting decentralization, you oddly remind me of a cult leader, who's going to have his followers commit mass suicide to ascend to a spaceship that'll carry them to heaven, rather than a "visionary developer". Shelby is not @Traxo nor @John Titor, nor any other user that has posted in this forum. He has no sock puppet accounts in reserve.
You're delusional and trying to reaffirm your confirmation bias. Nor have I claimed otherwise. There's a reason my post contained a line separating the list of quotes and my responses. Shelby has never advertized any signature spam on any of his accounts.
You're delusional and trying to reaffirm your confirmation bias. Again, not quite sure how this applies to you. Why aren't you banning @smooth, @Icebreaker, @generalizethis and all the Monero supporters who have continuously complained about Dash. You're stating that the forum policy is to disallow discussion about possible scams. Dude I think you've dropped all the marbles out of your skull. For a man of your "intelligence" you sure are having a lot of difficulty in understanding that possible scams aren't moderated to allow the community (or in some cases official authorities) to make their opinions on what is a scam and what isn't. Or are you trolling again (something you claimed you weren't doing, but merely providing "expertise")? You seem to not even have understood a single word I wrote about a decentralized forum future.
You're the one who decided to be a mod for an inane, centralized clusterfuck. That was your choice. Need ointment for that butthurt?
I must say that I am very saddened that Shelby Moore III has been treated in this fashion here on BCT.
I have had many valid and stimulating discussions with him here on serious technical and design issues that impact Bitcoin. He is in my opinion one of very few people who has spent the time understanding the serious issues that Bitcoin faces with:
1) The Fixed blocksize.
2) The unproven fee market that is supposed to replace block rewards in Bitcoin.
3) Miner centralization and the host of attacks that are possible because of the fixed blocksize.
4) Many of the serious failings in the solutions that have been presented, including but not limited to Bitcoin Unlimited.
5) What may be a fundamental design flaw in Bitcoin.
6) A host of other technical issues and attack vectors in Bitcoin.
My take is that banning Shelby Moore III amounts to nothing more than shooting the messenger when the message is both very valid and very unpalatable to many in the Bitcoin community.
I will request that this ban be reversed.
Thank you.
Even though the chances of his ban getting revoked after he demonstrated and continues to demonstrate complete disregard for order within the forum are near zero, I'd suggest forwarding this appeal to someone who can issue (and preferably reverse such bans) - theymos and/or Cyrus. Just because someone is "intelligent" or "insightful", doesn't grant him the license to do whatever he pleases. If an MIT professor came to my home and kept shitting all over my furniture while explaining to me how the latest neural network tech allows for synthesizing realistic voices, I wouldn't just brush it off and say "Well, I mean he really helps me to fully grasp how neural networks operate via practical application". No, I'd kick him out, never let him back in and find a different way to acquire said knowledge. |
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Edit: I don't asked on how trust works but thanks for linking that mprep.. What i mean is this it shows 0 i can't see some trust score.
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Ah, I misunderstood you at first. Hm, that is rather strange... Check your Trust settings ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) and see if you haven't removed anyone you didn't intend to from your Trust list (and if you have set an appropriate depth). For example, if you happened to have removed DefaultTrust from your list, you won't see the users' in DT ratings reflect on the numerical Trust representation. |
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Hi can someone tells me on whats happening to my account since i can't see the trust score of each member wheter its positive or negative.
I only 0 neutral score.
From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0: Q: What is Trust and how does it work?A: Trust is Bitcointalk's feedback based on trust (hence the name). The Trust system is made of 2 components: the Trust list and left feedback. The Trust list is where you select the users whose feedback on other users you trust and how deep is this trust. You can either trust just their feedback (select the Trust depth as 0), theirs and their trusted users feedback (Trust depth 1), and so on (up until Trust depth 3). Trusted feedback will be counted when displayed as numbers to the left of a users post in trade boards such as Marketplace or Goods. The feedback page is where you can leave feedback on other users or see a detailed view of a users feedback. Trusted feedback will be shown first and untrusted feedback will be hidden by default. You can view it by clicking the link "Show ratings". Last of all, you can see all the feedback the user has left on others. This covers the basics of the Trust system. If you want a more in depth description of the Trust system and details I probably missed, go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0. |
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Why was 'iamnotback' banned in the first place? He has been a significant contributor on this forum for many years, highly respected for his analysis, and he has educated many forum users on a wide range of topics. He deserved more respect, looks like you banned a significant and important 'voice' in the crypto space just because what he says and does annoyed you ... that's weak & cowardly.
According to other mods who dealt with his antics (I've merely reported one of his alts), he's been banned multiple times under numerous other accounts for trolling (which ended up with him finally getting a permaban and thus him ban evading to circumvent that). He has shown a complete disregard to the forum's rules to such a degree that I don't think any sort of reputation is going to help him. So the underlying reason for ban is trolling. It's such a convenient rule that can be applied basically to every user here. Still there are thousands of users who are not banned. What I have noticed is that he doesn't have patience for Dunning Krugers, so if he lets you (the general you) have it (and as he often does, quite bluntly so) perhaps instead of getting offended and taking the easy way out by labeling it as trolling you might consider evaluating your own knowledge about the subject and perhaps getting wiser by the process. That would require people eating the humble pie though and knowing the human nature that won't happen so we are where we are. You can't force people to accept what they want to deny. We'll just have to wait and see how the things will play out eventually. So the underlying reason for ban is trolling. It's such a convenient rule that can be applied basically to every user here. Still there are thousands of users who are not banned. That's why this guideline exists (from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0): <...>
However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post). You all seem to forget that I neither issued the bans (I requested for one on one of his ban evading accounts) nor have I AFAIK personally dealt with his previous alts. However, his demeanor and current actions (habitual ban evasion) signals me that it isn't far from the truth. Me labeling him as a troll wasn't because he disagreed with me, the forum's rules or the validity of his ban, it's because alongside the aforementioned actions and demeanor, he seems to behave like one whenever he hangs around here (e.g dismissing opinions because he "created million user software businesses all by himself" so other people's "words are useless", while continuing to instigate pointless, nonconstructive conflict for the heck of it). What I have noticed is that he doesn't have patience for Dunning Krugers, so if he lets you (the general you) have it (and as he often does, quite bluntly so) perhaps instead of getting offended and taking the easy way out by labeling it as trolling you might consider evaluating your own knowledge about the subject and perhaps getting wiser by the process.
That would require people eating the humble pie though and knowing the human nature that won't happen so we are where we are. You can't force people to accept what they want to deny. We'll just have to wait and see how the things will play out eventually. Just like he dislikes people who think they're superior based on their position rather than capability (not quite sure why moderating the forum based on guidelines provided by the owner would make me that but who am I decide), I can't stomach self-entitled and/or self-righteous smug hypocrites with massive egos. While I agree that he makes some valid points (e.g. the general fragility of any centralized system), I can't respect someone who neither respects (both verbally and with his actions) the forum, it's moderation team nor me (the other side of the discussion) while also exhibiting the aforementioned character traits.
Wow, the mods of Bitcointalk really are disgusting human beings. Banning one of the only good posters they had left, but leaving signature campaigns alive and well, and doing nothing about the litany of scams being pushed through their site since early 2014.
mprep and Theymos, you are both terrible human beings and you are deliberately slowing down the advancement of crypto through your actions.
I don't know how you guys sleep at night
Wow, the mods of Bitcointalk really are disgusting human beings. [X] Call someone "disgusting human being" because you disagree with how they manage a privately owned forum. Banning one of the only good posters they had left, but leaving signature campaigns alive and well, and doing nothing about the litany of scams being pushed through their site since early 2014. [X] Ignore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0 as well as countless efforts by global mods to reduce sig spam while still maintaining a free space for constructive discussion. [X] Ignore explanation ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_faq) why possible scams aren't moderated and instead of reporting them to the authorities actually equipped with dealing with such matters, complain about it in a random thread. mprep and Theymos, you are both terrible human beings and you are deliberately slowing down the advancement of crypto through your actions.
I don't know how you guys sleep at night [X] Make sure to finish off the post with another guilt trip, since your opinion is always right. /s If you don't like it here, feel free to start a new forum, get it popular and then fairly handle each and every scam accusation when there's hundreds of reports coming in every day, most of whom contain shaky/untrustworthy evidence, questionable witnesses while also lacking the capabilities the authorities have (e.g. valid court orders to discover identity of users or retrieve evidence, countless of highly-trained professionals in different fields (judges, investigators, etc.), several hundreds to sometimes thousands of years of laws and judicial practice governing how each case should be processed), who with all that power, still struggle to decide on who's guilty and who's not. |
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Fuck you. Fuck Theymos. United we will destroy your business and replace them with honest and open sourced improvements. Great. I'll be waiting for said open source improvements. All of your corrupt censorship is being permanently recorded and will become a permanent record all to permanently ban your corrupt businesses soon. Not quite sure how moderating a privately owned forum according to a set of rules is corrupt, but sure, whatever. Delete the entire thread if you dare. Pussies.
I would, if it broke the rules. It doesn't so I don't. Not exactly hard to understand, isn't it? The username represents the end of Bitcointalk is near. You are so clueless, you didn't even get the point. I feel your username is much more suited to reflect your status as a serial ban evader. You are pissing off a lot of users. No, I'm pissing off a condescending, self-entitled troll, who despite hating Bitcointalk (and all it's centralised counterparts) is surprisingly resilient in trying to continue to participate in discussions within it. Your self-righteous ass couldn't even follow through on your "This will be the final post." promise the second you got mentioned - gotta feed that over-inflated ego, amirite? Are you going to delete every user who posts about Bitnet when it is kicking ass on everything. That will be your demise. If your project really kicks off to such a degree, I really doubt I'll need to do anything. "It's going to replace all the centralized shit" was something you kept going on about, wasn't it? However, while it's still in it's infancy, it's going to have to abide by Bitcointalk's rules if it wants to stay here. Edit: you don't seem to understand that your positions of authority are granted by the community and are not an absolute privilege to run roughshod amok on common sense. You may think you are acting out of common sense but it is only because you are clueless and mindless idiots. Try again to read my prior post and wrap your mind around the disruption that will put an end to the abuse of the community. I hate corruption and especially I hate little pompous privileged pussies who hide behind the wire while they abuse and steal the investment of others. My position was granted by theymos, in order to moderate a part of this community according to his principles and ideas. If you were to have paid attention to at least a single sticky in the Altcoin forums, you might've noticed that I've compiled a list of such rules. Also, rather ironic for a man with an ego as huge as a skyscraper to accuse someone else of being "pompous privileged pussies". The reason closed source is so onerous (and the reason that open source is kicking ass on closed source) is no one serious invests in closed source, because they can lose their entire investment as BCT is doing to the investment made by Shelby Moore III in the community and arena. Don't trust me, this is the Crossing the Rubicon moment. Sure, not like any of the massive crypto business (such as the biggest exchanges, major altcoins, etc.) have a thread here. /s Anyway, since your decentralised forum idea is so revolutionary, how about you focus on working on it instead of trolling, promoting it in a forum you hate, complaining about how moderation is the literal devil and trying to seek validation for your fragile self-esteem here.
I see "iamnotback" is back (intentionally (?) ironic choice of username for a ban evader) again. If you're planning to post (if you're going to follow through with your promises, then I guess not) outside of here, don't. Talking about your ban in Meta is fine - posting outside isn't (and I already had to delete a few of those).
Also, to anyone quoting the post "for posterity", that's a myth. Most moderators when deleting a post, usually wipe any posts that quoted it (if it relied on the quoted content) or edit it out (if it didn't).
Why was 'iamnotback' banned in the first place? He has been a significant contributor on this forum for many years, highly respected for his analysis, and he has educated many forum users on a wide range of topics. He deserved more respect, looks like you banned a significant and important 'voice' in the crypto space just because what he says and does annoyed you ... that's weak & cowardly. According to other mods who dealt with his antics (I've merely reported one of his alts), he's been banned multiple times under numerous other accounts for trolling (which ended up with him finally getting a permaban and thus him ban evading to circumvent that). He has shown a complete disregard to the forum's rules to such a degree that I don't think any sort of reputation is going to help him. |
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I see "iamnotback" is back (intentionally (?) ironic choice of username for a ban evader) again. If you're planning to post (if you're going to follow through with your promises, then I guess not) outside of here, don't. Talking about your ban in Meta is fine - posting outside isn't (and I already had to delete a few of those).
Also, to anyone quoting the post "for posterity", that's a myth. Most moderators when deleting a post, usually wipe any posts that quoted it (if it relied on the quoted content) or edit it out (if it didn't).
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AFAIK he's permabanned for repeated streaks of trolling, breaking the 24 hour bump rule (consecutive posting) and ban evasion. If you have other questions related to it, ask.
1. Who makes the final call to permaban? 2. The guy is obsessed with posting, but he does draw in readers which ups your advertising count, so in the interest of freedom of speech and making the readers happy, what are the chances to change his permaban to only a month? 3. Speaking as someone that has been banned for 7 days, the process kind of sucks, because I am still not even sure what I was banned for when it happened as no link to the post that got me banned was sent to me.  1) If the user is of a higher rank than Newbie, an admin or a global mod (in other words, a moderator who can issue bans). If a user is a Newbie, any patroller. Here's a breakdown of what each mod can do (from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0): Q:What can <insert staff member name or rank here> do?A: Different ranks have different access to moderation tools. A quote from Salty Spitoon explains it pretty well: <...>
Admins: can do everything imaginable on the site. They however can't delete their accounts.
Global Moderators: can perma ban, nuke newbies, see and handle reports from all sections, and see reported PMs.
Moderators: can see and handle reports from their sections and nuke newbies
Patrollers: Are essentially Moderators but can only do moderator tasks for newbie members.
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2) None. Just because a user is "popular" doesn't negate the fact that he was banned for trolling on his previous account(s) and then habitually ban evaded ever since. 3) SMF forum software is rather limited in what can be conveyed via a ban message. Usually users aren't banned over a single message but rather over a pattern in their posts (e.g. mostly low value, constant trolling, etc.). Yeah that is strange I would have thought you would be told why you are banned especially if hero or legends since it is 100 hours or 1000s to reach that level. An explanation would be good.
AFAIK there usually is a ban message briefly specifying why he was banned (e.g "Trolling"). Ok, ban evasion seems reasonable... But gotta wonder why now Okay, so ban evasion would be the primary reason, but why doing it just now ? He has been around for a long time, and if this is related to his other accounts, he has been telling for a long time that he was the continuation of anonymint & co. Anyway I am sad for him, he will miss me.
We're not omnipotent beings floating in the ether, capable of processing information at the speed of light. Since none of the moderators happened to stumble upon his writings about how he's an alt of a banned account (though looking through the ban requests, one of the mods did mention his strong suspicions around the middle of last year about him ban evading but I'm not sure whether this was investigated further or acted upon) and nobody reported it, it went unnoticed up until recently. When one of the mods noticed, a ban was issued. I'm moving this to Meta since there seems to be primarily forum related discussion going on. |
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Try a detailed explanation...instead of generalizations...are you the judge , jury and exicutioner as well? AFAIK he's permabanned for repeated streaks of trolling, breaking the 24 hour bump rule (consecutive posting) and ban evasion. If you have other questions related to it, ask.
AFAIK he's permabanned for repeated streaks of trolling, breaking the 24 hour bump rule (consecutive posting) and ban evasion. If you have other questions related to it, ask.
Please quote his troll posts if possible. This is interesting  I didn't ban him (I can't issue bans aside from nukes - permananent newbie account bans) nor have I requested the ban. I did however request a ban on one of his ban evading alts. Even if I wanted to quote his trolling, it'd be rather difficult considering that posts which break the rules get deleted. If I'm not mistaken, the iamnotback account was primarily banned for ban evasion. |
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AFAIK he's permabanned for repeated streaks of trolling, breaking the 24 hour bump rule (consecutive posting) and ban evasion. If you have other questions related to it, ask.
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