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2801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This strategy is mostly used for price manipulation on: September 07, 2018, 02:42:17 PM
that is a big problem though. because existence of newbie trader wannabes makes everything that much more unpredictable. so you may think a rumor is worth buying but the newbies panic on that and you think you should sell when the newbies are FOMO buying!

Newbie traders have to learn and start trading properly or get out of that business.
I think that crypto trading is more difficult than stock trading, exactly because of the fake news and manipulation (news and some exchanges too). But as I wrote in another place too, some just came here because they've found some advertising that crypto will make them rich no matter what.

The thing is that because crypto is available to anyone with at least $20
and any exchange is open to anyone with Bitcoin, anyone can start trading
without prior knowledge of what to do.

The availability of bitcoin and accessibility of exchanges combined with
"News" good or bad, true or false is transferred into the market and we get
big price shifts for no apparent reason, like yesterdays slump.


somebody who joins the billion dollar market with $20 is not going to even put a dent in it. most of his money is going to be wasted on fees anyways. the problems is they have much more money that $20 because they don't know what risk taking means and there is a lot of them.

fortunately for us each drop that we had in the past 9 months kicked a lot of them out of the market and now we are no longer seeing any of them around.
as someone once said and i half agree with, right now the market is bots and day traders playing with each other.
2802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Houston Rockets’ Billionaire Owner Accepts Bitcoin at Luxury Car Dealership on: September 07, 2018, 02:36:51 PM
things like this sound good in the news but in the end in my opinion, they do not matter at all because their target customer is extremely limited. for example in this case luxury cars already have limited customers and on top of it this is just one  dealer that is accepting bitcoin which limits it even further.

what we want is more adoption in places where average people have access to. like grocery stores, retailers, online shops,... for instance we need Amazon to start accepting bitcoin or instead (even better) we need Open Bazaar to be adopted more replacing Amazon.
2803  Economy / Economics / Re: After Nine Bitcoin ETF Rejections! What is the Solution to Mainstream Adoption? on: September 04, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
if you define mainstream adoption as SEC approving an ETF for bitcoin and wallstreet wolves coming in bitcoin market and shit all over the market then i don't even want that "mainstream adoption" to happen. and trust me you don't want that to happen either. because a much more volatile market with a lot of manipulation would be the result of that and this kind of situation will postpone the real adoption which is merchant adoption and adoption as a currency.
2804  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Discussion] What's best for the future of Bitcoin? on: September 04, 2018, 12:43:55 PM
I'm for stability, but after raising to the level of 50000. I think many experts say this. The whole question in time.

you can't just come up with a number and say that's it . why not $5k? or why not $500k or $5 million?

stability is not something we can reach after reaching a certain price. stability is going to be reached when market reaches a maturity state where it is big enough that excited sell offs or buying frenzies can not shoot it up and down.
also that maturity state will be reached when the market has grown a lot so that there aren't waves of people coming in like last year when Coinbase was having 1 million new users per week! that part is the mass adoption.
2805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can never be be mainstream, because bankers and corporations.... on: September 04, 2018, 12:13:51 PM
bitcoin is already moving towards becoming mainstream. the revolution is not something that you can ever stop no matter who you are. whether you are the government or the banking system or any other powerful organization.  you can never go against a revolution and stop it. it will crush you under its hooves. the only thing they can do is to slow it down but eventually it will happen.
bitcoin being a global currency is a global revolution and those countries that have embraced it and adopted it in their mainstream are already 100 steps ahead.
2806  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hodlers are unscrupulous parasites. Here's why on: September 03, 2018, 04:25:26 PM
what the OP is talking about is not HODLers.. but fiat investors.

HODLers hold and want to keep bitcoin.. HODLers can even spend bitcoin. but they then get more bitcoin because they want to stay with bitcoin as their main currency.. what they have as their assets is majority bitcoin and not much fiat. and they dont wish to hold fiat..

but those only looking for a great time to exit bitcoin and be fiat rich are not HODLers

i think insulting HODLers is wrong. call what your describing by its real term and insult them.. FIAT LOVERS

that's the whole point of a censorship resistance currency and a free market. anybody who wishes can come get involved and own bitcoin and do with it whatever they like. from Satoshi and Hal Finney down to banksters like JP Morgan own bitcoin. and you can't prevent any of them without turning bitcoin into a centralized and censored currency.
2807  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hodlers are unscrupulous parasites. Here's why on: September 03, 2018, 04:14:22 PM
at the end of it all it won't matter if they are parasites or angles! this is what it is. there is always some kind of balance in the market between what you call "parasites" and others such as "day trader parasites", "weak hand idiots", "manipulating whales", "wall street and bank evils" and "daily spending contributing others"!

and that balance will result in the price that you see at any time. complaining about existence of a group will accomplish nothing in my opinion. they will exist whether we complain about them or not.

lets start from ourselves. what have YOU done for bitcoin?
for instance i am running a full node and contribute to the decentralization of the network.
2808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: India is Exploring a Central Bank Digital Currency for Payments on: September 03, 2018, 04:06:41 PM
by the way this is not exactly news. it is very old thing known about the Indian government and banks looking into cryptocurrencies and they have always had plans to make their own centralized altcoin.
there currently are at least half a dozen countries in the world working on something similar and i only know of one (Venezuela) that has actually finished up the work apparently!

the effect of this may only be on similar centralized coins. for instance we may see XRP be abandoned as they move from one centralized coin to another bank created coin!
2809  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How long will this take? on: September 03, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
I sent this transaction through Cryptopia and never had a situation where its been 2 hours+ with 0 confirmations: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/eb729f004143ad3a03288163ba957b1a8bcfb7c65c804a5da646a040c2a6594d/

Any insight would be appreciated.

 Wow you really chintzed out on the fees - <4 Sats/B is pretty low which is probably why it took 106 minutes.

Use this for an estimate of fees if you need a tx to go through quickly: https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

15 to 16 sats/B would have probably included your tx in the very next block.


that website is terrible for fee estimation. they basically predict the best fee then add a percentage to it so they tell you a higher fee so that if you checked their site and chose a fee you would be 100% among the high paying fees (high priority). but that will also increase the competitive fee and that is not good for the network!

suggest either one of these two:
https://coinb.in/#fees
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h
they are better. the first one is even fun to use, people may learn a thing or two about transactions and how the size thing works.
2810  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How good of a business is the "Crypto Casino" business? on: September 03, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
well there are casinos that are nearly as old as bitcoin like PrimeDice so the business must be good for them that they could stay  around this long and still have lots of players.
basically i believe the nature of gambling and the fact that the house always wins will always be in favor of these casinos and on top of that bitcoin and using it to bet is so easy and addictive that they will always have players.

a new business however will not be as lucky because they market is already filled with gambling sites, specially dice sites. and the other games have not been as successful anyways. it is not impossible but it will require some extraordinary design and very competitive rates such as lower house edge. and finally lots of advertisement.
2811  Economy / Speculation / Re: What strategy we should take when Bitcoin price fall on: September 03, 2018, 03:48:20 PM

if the fall is a small fall in bitcoin and it is a correction then there is nothing to do but buy more before the rise continues.
but if it is a big fall in bitcoin as a bigger correction then you may want to sell prior to the fall and buy back in the dip...

You are the one who came close to the way I would respond to op's quiz because I see it as a quiz and most people are saying to hodl. I believe also that there are certain times for hodl and when to sell and wait for another time to buy rightly. If you have the premonition that price is falling badly having checked your trade strategy, then why do I need to hodl when exchanges are all waiting for me to click the buy request when and anytime I'm ready to buy.

...but only if you are a trader not an investor.

I'm thinking the same way could also go for an investor since selling and buying back would give different profit.

yeah, i am always saying that you have to make up your mind about what you are going to do in this market. you can't be both at the same time but try to be other. you need to dedicate your attention to a certain strategy. if you trade then be a trader and don't hold when there is a drop and if you are an investor then don't complain about each fluctuation.
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: What strategy we should take when Bitcoin price fall on: September 03, 2018, 01:30:43 PM
it depends on the fall and the reason for the fall and finally depends on your strategy in the market,. for example as a trader you would do different things than as an investor.

if the fall is a small fall in bitcoin and it is a correction then there is nothing to do but buy more before the rise continues.
but if it is a big fall in bitcoin as a bigger correction then you may want to sell prior to the fall and buy back in the dip but only if you are a trader not an investor.

if it is an altcoin then you should sell when you see the first signs of any kind of fall because you will lose a lot of money if you get dumped on.
2813  Economy / Economics / Re: why the bitcoin bubble hasn't fully burst | CNBC on: September 02, 2018, 03:51:40 PM
i have been hearing multiple cases of people trying to say the fact that the number of searches about bitcoin according to google has fallen then bitcoin must continue going down.
to these people i say your conclusion is like saying that because people are taking umbrellas outside it makes the skies come down with rain!

the fact is people are taking umbrellas out because it is raining not the other way around. similarly there is a lot of searches about bitcoin because its price has been shooting up. obviously everyone would be curious to see what the hell is this "thing" that was worth $7000-$9000 and now all of a sudden is worth $20000.

using it to explain "bubble" is even worse!

1Referee also pointed out a very note-worthy thing. the same people, specially CNBC has been calling bitcoin a bubble ever since it reached $1000. in fact there was similar charts being posted back then too. mostly it was comparison of 2017's $1000 with 2013's $1000-$1200 and they were all convinced that it is the same and bitcoin is in a bubble which will burst and price will go back to $200-$500
2814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Current BTC price below 8K on: September 02, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
The proposal of ethereum etf is actually getting bigger news than the bitcoin etf.

its more of a joke actually Grin
last year they did the same thing too. they saw that there is a hype for bitcoin ETF going on and there was a small rise prior to the date when SEC was supposed to decide on Winkle-ETF so the ethereum advertising team decided they also want in on that hype so started the talk about ETH ETF! even the name sounds funny.

one of the reasons they are rejecting bitcoin's ETF is because they say there is manipulation in it, what do you think they are going to say about a manipulated pump and dump coin with a pre-mine and an ICO?
2815  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop using words "Bitcoin", "Crypto", "Blockchain" interchangeably. on: September 02, 2018, 03:28:13 PM
it is just another way of advertising altcoins.
last year they tried "we are better than bitcoin and will replace it soon" tactics to advertise and then pump them, but this year ever since bitcoin had a smaller drop while altcoins continued dumping for months they also changed their tactics to now implying "there is no difference between bitcoin and their shitcoins". pretty soon we may even hear them categorize bitcoin as an altcoin too! Cheesy
2816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ANYTHING BESIDES BITCOIN IS ‘USELESS’ – TONE VAYS AND NOURIEL ROUBINI SQUARE OFF on: September 02, 2018, 03:20:31 PM
i feel like the argument is happening between two sides with extreme opinions and both are equally wrong but in the opposite directions.

for instance calling anything else that is not bitcoin as useless is just exaggeration in my opinion. there are still good coins out there but the coin names that we keep hearing every day are not one of those and they are actually useless.
2817  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin and Taxes on: September 02, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
IRS has been seeing bitcoin as a properly ever since 2014 https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-virtual-currency-guidance
it is not really news and this above link is a lot better than using a link from some click bait  site in my opinion Wink

Do we really need to reveal how many bitcoins we have?

no we don't need to and we aren't but not all of us are using bitcoin as a currency. most people are trading bitcoin to make profit and when you make profit on a centralized exchange you also have to worry about taxes and then report it so that you are not evading them which is illegal.
in other words it comes down to your usage.
2818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 18% of US students own coding money, according to Coinbase. almost girls are als on: September 02, 2018, 01:45:11 PM
What is "coding money"? The main article used Crypto and "Coding Money" means just nothing, no sense. You really need to use a good spinning tool.

What made you to say that? I don't believe that its just nothing because they can develop something that we didn't think that is possible. You can never tell the future by just looking at the present conditions. Maybe as you look now, the crypto and coded money is just a source of income or a scheme but there are other people that are looking to it as the next generation of systems that may revolutionize transactions . It just a matter of perspective dude!

it is the wrong term, that's all. "coding money" means nothing. it is called cryptocurrency. in its nature it is the same thing. there is no difference because they are both describing the same result but you can't just come up with terms like that. i think OP is translating something that comes up with this term otherwise it is nothing that is ever used.
2819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin supply and demand. on: September 02, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
it is funny to see how shallow some people think of bitcoin and the market and think just because they have seen some irrelevant data  then the price should go up. it is basically them wishing for it and then trying so hard for finding some reason to satisfy their mind about it being true.
there is others opposite of OP who are trying so hard to come up with reasons for drop and justify it for themselves with those irrelevant reasons.
2820  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is around $ 7K, while the market in general returns to green numbers on: September 01, 2018, 04:13:37 PM
bitcoin had a very slow rise to $7000 and now it is staying there. and whenever something like that happens and bitcoin becomes stable (with less than 5% change in one day) the altcoins become attractive to investors again. them being dumped and be ready for the "after dump recovery" helped with the recent small rises that you saw among them.
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