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2801  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 19, 2016, 11:57:16 AM
nothing all investment online high risk
all investment online only hyip scheme ponzy
on wait time owner much money can scam site

That is why some are building the trust first. So that people wont think that way. But the problem is there is too many scams that are happening, with this bad reputation is given to all.

Yes there are few bunch of people who are involved in scamming people and that makes new comers hesitate in entering the world of bitcoins and it also creates bad image of bitcoins in their minds.
That is just normal because you cannot expect that all people who are in bitcoin are good people, we are living in the cryto world an anonymous world so criminals maybe here therefore we need to be careful with our movement and make sure we are clever all the time.

Yes and if someone promises you to give best returns in quick time then that is surely a ponzi scheme, so we should not get greedy and should have self control to avoid those scammers.

The rule always is: If it is to good to be true, then it is definitely not true at all. Fact is, if it is really true that the hyip sites can earn that big, they should not share that to everyone else and just earn it more by themselves, right? It is a big NO investing to these hyip sites no matter what. Don't just give easily your hard earned money to them.
2802  Other / Archival / Re: Do you have paypal account even though you have bitcoin? on: September 19, 2016, 11:53:29 AM
Yes I do have my paypal account even though I already have bitcoin. Because I have some freelance job that pays me through paypal.

And once I get paid, what I am doing is that converting that with the use of virwox so even though I have bitcoin. Paypal is still helpful to me because there are some employers doesn't know bitcoin.

And I am going to keep on working for both of it and going to still accept money in paypal.

I used to have both too. But since I engaged in bitcoin, I think Paypal use to me has slowly faded away. Now, I do not have any money in paypal anymore. All my part time income is now in bitcoin and it works well to me.

Yes before knowing bitcoin, I was active user of Paypal but after getting into bitcon I don't think there is any point in using Paypal, as bitcoin is taking best care of us with minimum fees.

This may differ from an individual. If you were using paypal for online transactions only that is now capable of just using with bitcoin, then it is all good. However, if bitcoin is not still supported and only paypal is, then there is no reason to just eradicate paypal. It is still better to use them both accordingly.
2803  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: September 19, 2016, 11:50:30 AM
is one of the bitcoin digital currency is growing. bitcoin provides us the ease of going all financial transactions. I believe bitcoin will be increasingly used in the future. bitcoin price increases in the future will help our children grow better.

Yeah if price goes higher then it will help our children in their personal life as they can expect good and comfortable life so saving for them is a good idea I guess.

It is a good idea really. But not to the point that you are feeding all to your grandchildren all of your bitcoin savings. You can use your saved bitcoins for their education, insurance, and other investment that will make their life easier but not to the point that they will not work hard in life. You should just do these for ease and not as a way to spoon feed to them.
2804  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: earn 0.5 btc on: September 19, 2016, 11:47:28 AM
0.5 BTC in a month should be no difficult for you to reach if you have a decent mining rig. Although you'll be needing a high amount of capital, it should be okay because after you've set the mining rigs, you don't have to do any heavy tasks to earn.

But, if you don't have a mining rig, it's quite hard to earn 0.5 BTC in a month especially out of free methods. You'll have to work really really hard to get 0.5 BTC. All your efforts and time should be consumed by earning bitcoins.

This is true. Working and earning to invest to bitcoin in order to get more bitcoins is the way to go. If you are into mining, then try to save from your salary and invest it in your mining equipment - just don't attempt to mine bitcoins nowadays because it is kinda very hard.. try to mine some altcoins that have no big competitions.
2805  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: How can I know those HYIP site are paying? on: September 19, 2016, 11:44:14 AM
Better to dont expect for hyip that you can make a profit to invest almost all investment site online are scammers better to dont try and stay away to them looks for a legit way like buying altcoins.

For me, investing to HYIP sites is immoral. I know there are lots of people who will be against to my point of view about this. My reason is that, even if you know that is HYIP and think that as long as you join early, you will end up profiting - by this fact alone, you know very well that your profit is coming from new comers that you know they will eventually lose their hard earned money when there is no new investors coming in. So, better not invest to it and look for other investment vehicles that are reputable and legit.
2806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: September 19, 2016, 11:41:14 AM
Sincerely I am not trying to use gambling as tool of becoming rich because my feet are on earth. I am aware of the dangerous and risks as to become rich I must place bigger bets which can bring one of both big profit or big loss. I am making money in small amounts and fun isn't only motive but this is part of my gambling habit. I am not rich from gambling and don't think will be ever from it.

Same here. I gamble not to become rich - just to profit an amount that is equal to my monthly income - which is average income by the way. However, I am now on a transitioning period to trading cryptocurrencies. I like it most there because you can just setup how much you are willing to profit and risk after your analysis.
2807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Free tips from betblog.com on: September 19, 2016, 11:38:52 AM
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Thank you for your regular tips. I will take a look on your next tip and try betting accordingly. I am now more on trading but I do sports betting from time to time especially during the scheduled game of my favorite team. I can sense that you are into it really and is doing your proper research so I'll give it a try on your next post. Thanks buddy.
2808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 19, 2016, 11:34:56 AM
do you like slot games ?
For me slot is really fun to even its online or not. But im not lucky in slot so Im not  prepared to play it,  I choose dice or roulette if online gambling.
Not only you for all gamblers the slot games are not lucky. Only a few people can make a profit in slot games. I will also not play slot games more, Compare to Dice game I like a roulette play, It's user Interface is looks nice, and while playing this game, i will get more excitement. The winning percentage also high to compare Dice game.

By right slot has the highest house edge, so there is a lot of loser and it is not easy to win. Even if you manage to win a few times, you can easily lose it back.So slot should be really for fun and not as a good tool for earning money.

That is right. It is very hard to win in the long term with slots. I rather play dice than slot games. But, the design of slots is really cool and invites more people to play because of its graphics and some winnings. I agree that we only slots for entertainment and not as a way of earning many profits regularly.
2809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 19, 2016, 11:29:47 AM
The only smart was to gamble is to bet what you can afford to lose. Gambling is based on luck, just like trading is.

Who says trading is based on luck just like gambling? There are people earning livings with trading, can you find someone earning a living by gambling? Obviously not, and there are experts in trading world, but can you find someone who is an expert in gambling? Obviously not.
Yeah your right there is no people who living in gambling unless if you are a dealer or owner of the casino.. trading is not a gambling and i think many people are making a good profit in trading.. thats why it is still good to trade than gambling..
I really agree with this because in trading there are really lots of investors become rich because of this, but first you really must know how it works and you must need enough knowledge so that you can earn good profit in a long run in trading.

Actually, I am now in a transition from gambling to trading. Although, I earn very little yet in my trading (as I am still learning so I trade with small amount of money yet and with little target profit) compared to gambling where you  earn or lose big. In trading, there are really much things that we must learn so that we mitigate the loses.
2810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gamble small amount i win and when i gamble big i loose. on: September 19, 2016, 11:27:30 AM
I think it's psychology effect, at beginning you think you win a lot even the truth you don't get much profit or you're lucky and win a lot.
Because greed, you think you will win even you gamble big, but suddenly you lost.

So, i think there's nothing unusual and it's not because the casino isn't fair.

That is true. It is more on psychology - when you win or lose with small amount of bets, the outcome is not significant and could not shake your being. But if you play with big amount of money, then whatever be the outcome has big impact to your emotions already. Unless you are a professional gamblers that don't mind losing and winning when betting, they just follow their pre-planned bets.
2811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: September 19, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?

I keep coming back in an online casino because of this 3 Reasons.

1) I want to win again.
2) I want to recover my loss.
3) The game is fun and i don't mind losing or winning as long as i am enjoying what i am doing.

Now i already quit some of the casino site that i am playing because for the reason that i always lose and i am not enjoying the game anymore.
I've never played those site for 3 months now and i does not taught about playing there again.

Your first two points are dangerous and are going to addiction that is why i do not care for both of them and it is only the third point which i like and for that i do not invest much high amount but only a smaller amount is enough to get that entertainment , so i come back for fun not for money and recovering the loses.

Hit it bullseye. The main lesson is, we only play money that we can afford to lose so that we all have all the fun in the world gambling - because we are worry free whether we lost that money or not - our goal is to have fun and be entertained. This is what gambling si supposed to be, right? It is just for entertainment unless, you want to play like a professional gamblers do.
2812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: September 19, 2016, 11:21:46 AM
Yes of course you can gambling with your small amount
you can try gambling with low odds
especially sportsbook you can choose best team and low odds good luck for you
Small amount in sports betting is not enough for me if i have a small amount there to gamble because you are just spending small amount you can only get a small amount of profit. but if you are just halving fun it is ok to gamble with small amount but the problem how long you can play with a small amount i think you can lose it fast..

that is called being greedy my friend and that is never good in gambling. although everybody choose their bet amount based on their pocket but in general even a small amount is good if you can actually win and make it grow instead of just losing it on your first bet. so if you choose small amount you will always have something to fall back on and invest more but if you bet big you will be left pennyless.

This is what we called playing with many sessions. So instead of playing with your 1 bitcoin in a session, you divide it into 10. Now, you already have .1 every session and if you are not lucky on your first attempt, you still have 9 more chances to get lucky versus play that entire 1 btc in one session where if you are not lucky, you get busted in no time.
2813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: September 19, 2016, 11:19:08 AM
since i had heared by many friends that investing money at gambling site instead of gamble is more profitable if admin of gambling site is honest & pay honestly.
yes some people has said such as that but if you were find trustworthy gambling sites to do so and i think investing at gambling sites will more safe rather than investing at cloud mining sites because usually if the particular gambling sites are pretty popular and many active players at there those sites will automatically got profit from the players and i think they will paying steady to the investors too


Indeed  way safer than investing to ponzi scam cloud mining out there. Just remember though that investing to gambling sites does not guarantee any profit at all - because there comes a time that there will really be very lucky player(s) that win big in any given time. There might also be big sharks that will play and win big amount of coins.

So you are saying that just hit and rrun? heheh yeah that would be nice strategy because now a days investment sites are not safe anymore so if you want to invest really then invest want you can afford to loose then withdraw if it is roi or you have earn

Hit and run I think that is fine when it comes in gambling.  Grin lol
Because instead of losing after you win it is still better that after losing, you can win in the end and that is good when you play gambling.

lol. There are people who can do this and are very lucky at it. They play allin and just close their eyes. After few minutes, they will check and if they win, they cash out immediately and if they lost, cry.haha Well, right it is better to run immediately than staying because your chances of losing is high when you still play longer period of time especially if you only play with one session.
2814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 19, 2016, 11:15:37 AM
You can lose all of your money in gambling.
But when you start addict with it, you almost does not care about how money you lose, you just carry about how money you get.
This is also true there are addicted person that does don't care about what they've lose but care about what they won. But that is not good being addicted in gambling will always makes you lose in the end of the day.

In gambling, you can lose everything you've got if you are not careful. Always bear in mind that there is an advantage to casinos both online and offline and that is the house edge. So, if you think that you are invincible in your bets, then you are wrong. This is true to people that get addicted to gambling, they lost money that they can't afford to lose except to professional gamblers.
2815  Economy / Services / Re: Get paid in Bitcoin for simple data entry (solving captchas). on: September 19, 2016, 11:12:38 AM
Hi guys, is there anyone on here who's currenlty working for the OP of this solving captchas thread. Please I need to know how much the OP pay now a days and I will be happy if anyone can be of help.

I guess the OP's offer is no longer active. For me, doing captcha solving is a waste of time and is really very boring. I would rather do just the signature campaign along with my other works that pays well compared to solving captchas - well, that is just my personal opinion though. I don't know with others as we are different in any ways..
2816  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: September 19, 2016, 11:10:19 AM
Some people here have not understood the topic the OP has actually posted. Gambling your money is one thing and investing in a casino bankroll is different. While gambling will be a loss in the long run, investing in the casino bankroll is not so. However you should also be ready to lose some if some high roller wins a lot since you have a share of the casino bankroll. However investing a small amount is not bad and is worth doing in reputed casino site - recommend you do research about it before doing it.

I could not agree more. If you are up for a long term investment with online casino bankroll, then you will be fine because you have the house edge advantage just like that of the casino owners. However, it is but natural that you will be in a negative profit in a week or two because there will be some lucky  players that wins in the high rollers. But if you keep holding on and invest regularly, then you will be fine. Otherwise, there will be no casinos will be running now - just think of that in a sec Wink
2817  Economy / Gambling / Re: is freebitco.in or freedogeco.in worth my time? on: September 19, 2016, 11:01:05 AM
1 hour for a faucet that has more chance of giving you kess is not worth your time. Even though they give you free lottery tickets each time you claim it does not guarantee you will win the lottery. When I first joined I quit instantly I did not like one thing about it.

Enrolling to a signature campaign is way better than chasing with these free faucets. It is really a waste of time and not worth of the time due to the very small return. Although, signature campaign does pay that high, it is way more better than faucet sites in my opinion. In a week time, I don't think so that you get at least minimum of 0.012btc in faucet sites, right? Well, you can get that amount in signature campaign.
2818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MY gambling strategy to limit loss and make btc on: September 19, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
My strtegy is very simple. It is called self control. i strt with .01 anytime i get  more than .001 over that amount i immidieately withdraw that ammount into coinbase. this way, i cant get cocky and gamble away huge orofits! Ehat are you guys opinions on this strat

Your strategy is too simple.

But for my opinion,
You have a low amount of limit to the winning amount you set,
It is better (if you have a 0.01 bitcoins at stake) to set a higher amount of winning.

And also how about your limit in losing?
Cause what if you lose all you 0.01 before winning 0.001?

This make sense. If you only play with .01 in one setting, you have the chances to get bust in one run. If I were you, I should divide that .01 into 10 so every session, you only play with .001 and play with your strategy. If you lost that session, you still have 9 more sessions to cover your loses. If you only play 1 session out of .01 and lost, there is no way for you to fight back again. For me, 0.01 bankroll is not enough though to see significant profit if you play smart.
2819  Economy / Gambling / Re: AVOID BETKING FOR NOW on: September 19, 2016, 10:54:16 AM
I also think op got unlucky with his bets and that is why he got frustrated to see the bet result, in fact losing streak is really bad when it happened than all people make this kind of statement, very hard to take responsibility of lose.
im pretty sure that op got very bad luck in that time
and he lose a big amount of money

That is true. However, it does not warrant that the site is scamming people. I would be biased here because I invested in betking bankroll. We should be aware that eventually, the online casino will win because of the house edge. People complain when they lost and never realized that they will really eventually lost if they never stops due to again, house edge. Gambling is risky - so, we should play bankroll that we can afford to lose.
2820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: September 19, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
I would not say that you win only I. The beginning in gambling. It is not like that at all. It sounds like they get you to win to make you addicted and continue to play. Gambling is addiction and nobody will argue about this. But it is human's fault. Cause it is in our nature to wear pink glasses and expect that soon we will hit jack pot and be rich.

Exactly, we, humans always get addicted of something when we see any profit at starting eventhough we lose everything later on but we still does not stop and expect to win big amounts and that makes us lose all the time.
That's true, I heard a lot of story just like that and mostly, gamblers are have the same story but of course not all of us buy most of us really getting addicted because of that scenario. They don't know how to have self-control and how to control their greediness.

Gambling, just like any other things in life, when done in excessive way, is already bad and can be considered as a sickness. However, if you just gamble for fun and moderately, which is by the way gambling is designed at the very beginning - for entertainment, then your are not sick. The only time it is bad is when you become too much addicted to it that you already spend money that you cannot afford to lose.
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