-snip- That's all fair enough. Here's how I would approach the same situation. I post my public PGP key if I haven't already, or even create a brand new one just for this purpose if I want. I ask the other user to use my public key to encrypt their email address and post the encrypted message. I decrypt their message to obtain their email address, which I can then send an email to. Obviously you can reverse the roles and ask the other user to provide their PGP key first for you to use to encrypt and post your own email address. Bonus points if both parties share their public keys, so you can now encrypt all email communication, which is absolutely necessary if you are sharing anything sensitive since most email accounts are neither encrypted nor secure. However, I appreciate my set up requires a degree of technical knowledge and your approach may be more suitable for non technical users. Exactly. In my case it was all about dating a girl (with shallow technical background). You don't impress girls by sending them a public key, normally   |
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Maybe, just maybe, I'm living life on my terms..
+1 WOsMerit I applaud your degeneracy and have to say I am pretty happy your not angry anymore.  It was kind of painful for me to read angry bob's posts. We knew there were reasons, but getting angry too long just turns against one self in the long term. Happy you could escape, B  |
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I don't see any major flaws with your set up, other than the fact it is massively over thinking the problem.
But I give him props for thinking about stuff like this, and even if the solution is overly complex it's something that's interesting to me. I have no idea what a 10 minute e-mail is, but I'm pretty sure I know what the concept is and that something like that exists (I don't stray far on the internet; I'm a hermit inside a hermit). I don't have any operations with members of the forum I need to keep secret, so this kinda-sorta doesn't apply to me. The creativity of encrypting messages has sparked my interest, and I wish I knew more about cryptography....but alas, it would be like learning a new language for me. Protonmail will have to suffice. Right. Good to know. The story: I posted comments on a news site which didn't have PM or similar possibilities to contact other users privately. Omit the encryption and eavesdropping issues for now, please. So i asked myself how to let a single user (or multiple users) - who probably have low knowledge in computer science and encryption - know that he should write an email to me if he/she/they would be ok with that. I had to take in account that literally every other commenter could write me fun mails in the like of "hey, it's me, what's up", and i felt generally uncomfortable to leave an email address of mine on the interweb just like so (for reasons and tradition - don't ask please). That's when the idea was born. 10 minute mail addresses are webmail accounts that get deleted if you don't show activity for 10 minutes. Perfect for registering on "freebie" websites, without letting them sell your email to the spam-marketing army. An email addy i can forget about, nobody will ever be able to bug me through it after use. I just had to make sure that i don't reply to funny clowns that pretend to be the user i wanted to get into direct contact with. That was the birth of the random number, which the user posts in a comment on the news site, right after sending his email address to the 10 minute address i created for this atomic purpose. end of story. Like it or leave it I'd just thought it could be useful for somebody here, not restricted to bitcointalk ("here's PM, dude!"), which i'm aware that it's not exactly on-topic in meta. I apologize for my ignorance  |
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It's just quick, clean, easy approach, which applies to all other platforms. Same as PGP keys. Just post your public PGP key once, and anyone can send you encrypted information which only you can read across any medium they choose - email, PMs, instant messaging, chat rooms, Facebook messenger, Twitter comments, forum posts, you name it. Even better is that you can verify it came from the person you think it did by using their PGP key, with no need to have them message you over a different medium with a random string of characters. True, but i don't want anyone to send me information. I pick a certain user on a public channel (news comment thread), make sure it's him/her that sends me his email address and then i can send my pgp pubkey to this one via "permanent" email for future communication. I don't have PM available on all channels and there's the advantage. If i post a pubkey on more than one public channel, then there's a traceable connection. I avoid all of this by the ten-minute-mail-randomstring "method". The idea behind this is not too hard to grasp
the purpose is to hide a private email address from the public and to make sure only the right person receives it. Why would you trust TMM more than a PM on Bitcointalk? I wouldn't. And as stated before and shown in the title "outside bitcointalk forum". EDIT: gotta run, read yours later... [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Consider you posted your protonmail addy on a public www channel. You would receive quite some spam. I posted it months ago, and haven't received any spam. Lucky you 6. TMM address expires after ten minutes, as usual. All traceable data should be lost. But you can't verify that, so you have to trust them on it. "Trusting" isn't very "Bitcoiny". Can't disagree on that, but the purpose is to hide a private email address from the public and to make sure only the right person receives it. If you want to send another user a message without exposing any private info like an email address and without any risk of it being intercepted, then just have them provide you a PGP public key, encrypt the message, and send it through a private message. I'd have to manage additional keys. Not easy for a guy with memory problems PGP keys aren't ment to be remembered, just store them safely. It's annoying to setup though.
How cool would it be if the (new) forum would implement client side PM encryption by default? Extraordinary cool |
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Mommy always told me to be polite (the first time) |
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Just plain old scotch brite pads and elbow grease!
How does one procure elbow grease? Do you buy it in bulk or wait for it to appear on one's elbows, presumably the result of some sort of manual labor activity? I don't know...  |
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I just made a few bucks with ETH. Bought the dip. Now I realize its a gigantic pain in the ass to cash out the money I made lol. Anybody know how I can cash out in Turkey to Turkish bank account without being a Turkish citizen? I tried BTCTurk. You can create an account. But can only cash out if you are Turkish citizen lol...
Usually I use Bitstamp. But they dont pay to Turkey.
EDIT: I never traded so far. Only bought and holded. Until today.
congrats. but we tend not to use the "E"-word around here I hope you don't "hold" on Bitstamp? No I bought Bitcoins couple years ago and they are safe on a wallet. But I saw more % potential in ETH in a daytrade so I gone for it. But whats all that if you cant cash out in the country you currently live (Turkey) lol. I normally live in Germany but dont want to pay tax. So I better hold it a year and be tax free. ok. It's the same around here. I missed that you want to avoid the tax, i do so too. I don't trade, but i did some time ago, which pointed out reasons not to do it again. Once i needed to liquidate a small part to solve problems in real life  But other than that, i hodl for the future and family. |
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I just made a few bucks with ETH. Bought the dip. Now I realize its a gigantic pain in the ass to cash out the money I made lol. Anybody know how I can cash out in Turkey to Turkish bank account without being a Turkish citizen? I tried BTCTurk. You can create an account. But can only cash out if you are Turkish citizen lol...
Usually I use Bitstamp. But they dont pay to Turkey.
EDIT: I never traded so far. Only bought and holded. Until today.
congrats. but we tend not to use the "E"-word around here I hope you don't "hold" on Bitstamp? |
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Isn't it much easier to just use a new Protonmail account for this? I made one for the sole purpose of receiving an encrypted email once, and if I need it again, I can just use it again.
Consider you posted your protonmail addy on a public www channel. You would receive quite some spam. It's like indirectly spamming protonmail, especially if you'd do this often, imho. That's why i chose the ten minute way, for example to let somebody i don't know write to my protonmail address. I wouldn't need to remember (or store) multiple protonmail addresses, change their password(s) regularly (optimally) etc. It's just another layer of security and there are no after effects as soon as the mail address expires. But hey, security isn't always meant to be easier, isn't it? I don't see any major flaws with your set up, other than the fact it is massively over thinking the problem.
If you want to send another user a message without exposing any private info like an email address and without any risk of it being intercepted, then just have them provide you a PGP public key, encrypt the message, and send it through a private message.
I'd have to manage additional keys. Not easy for a guy with memory problems, maybe that's why i can't exactly agree to the "over thinking". It's just quick, clean, easy approach, which applies to all other platforms. It's not restricted to forum use, but also newsgroups (if you're into that kind of thing) or public http-chat, comment sections of news articles - you name it. |
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I'm just gonna roll out an idea here that lingered on my mind to post on bitcointalk for longer now, on how to exchange messages via email outside the board, with like atomic low security risk. Question: How to send Email to a forum member without giving up anonymity or worrying that highly sensitive, private information is being stored in btctalk's PM database? Answer: Consider the following steps: 1. Member "A" wants to send mail to member "B" 2. B creates a ten-minute-mail address (TMM), sends it to B via PM or posts it in a forum message 3. A sends email to B's TMM-address, using a random string or number as email title 4. A let's B know what random string/value he used as a title, to avoid imposters. 5. B looks in his TMM inbox, opens and reads A's email, identified by said unique title. 6. TMM address expires after ten minutes, as usual. All traceable data should be lost. I came across this idea when using a newspaper portal comment section, lacking the ability to exchange messages with other users, when i did want to communicate privately with another user, without exposing (one of) my email address(es) to the world and also without worrying that somebody else could disturb communication by pretending to be the user i originally wanted to communicate to. I created a TMM address, posted it with a request to instantly send me (one of) his/her real email address(es), with a random number as title. After sending the mail, the user should post his random number, for me to identify the authentic email in the TMM inbox. Could have also been a phone number instead of a private email address, for example. So i could write a standard email from a personal account to the user's personal email without exposing my or her/his email addy (or phone number) to the world forever. Maybe this is of some use to some follows here on bitcointalk. #hodl EDIT: If you find a flaw, let us know and discuss it |
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Finally back after a whole day of power outage  What do you use for polishing? Good stuff, mate. |
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Don't know about you, but my feelings are between sad and annoyed that a town has to change its name because it means something funny in another language. What the fugg!
That would have quite the same effect like changing the slang word "nigger" to "nicker"  NulL. edit: #noracist Jupiter & Saturn conjunction on Dec 21 (would be visible as "Christmas star").
Last time it happened in 1226 AD or something like this.
Getting my scope ready.
Man, i had a scope until seven years ago. Sweet memories of cold winter nights full of stars... Pre-christmas it was unusable, because the nearby neighbors lit their shitty LED decorated houses 24/7, but after new year, we had very good sight, i suspect a 7 or sometimes 8/10 darkness, within certain hours. Low light pollution. I had to give it up, because of my astigmatism, slowly increasing, slightly foggy view and halos around light sources. A good occasion for aliens to show up, probably, lol..with a wormhole in vicinity or general direction, a la "Interstellar".
Have you read "The Long Earth"? They could pop up through the "sides", too |
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So i finally received my "black friday" ledger nano S.
The next step was to request ledger.fr to delete my personal data from their e-commerce systems, pointing them to Art 17. of the EU's GDPR (a.k.a. "right to be forgotten").
They have to keep parts of the data, for example for legal purposes, but since the order got completed by signed delivery, they should delete the order data from their shopping server, which is accessible from the www.
A part of the procedure is to notify the requesting person of deletion asap, if possible even send some kind of proof.
I'll keep you updated on this.
L8erz
Got an email today, my request was forwarded to their internal privacy policy team. please hold the line... mixed feelings...you would not be able to ask for technical help after that, presumably. Nah, they keep me in some internal customers database (and other ones, behind the www scene), but not on the www e-commerce server. The latter is far easier to hack from the outside, as the past has shown already. (Roughly 70% of successful attacks are coming from the inside, however.) |
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So i finally received my "black friday" ledger nano S.
The next step was to request ledger.fr to delete my personal data from their e-commerce systems, pointing them to Art 17. of the EU's GDPR (a.k.a. "right to be forgotten").
They have to keep parts of the data, for example for legal purposes, but since the order got completed by signed delivery, they should delete the order data from their shopping server, which is accessible from the www.
A part of the procedure is to notify the requesting person of deletion asap, if possible even send some kind of proof.
I'll keep you updated on this.
L8erz
Got an email today, my request was forwarded to their internal privacy policy team. please hold the line... |
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The dynamics are currently interesting, and not like what we have seen in the past. I am going to speculate what might be happening under the hood at this time.
-The retail exchange volumes are up, but not much yet.
-At the same time we are becoming aware of a likely large increase in OTC market volumes. Does anyone have access to ANY of the OTC trading desk volumes?
I speculate that the OTC market is most likely fairly lit up. And if I was a player with big money I would do the following: I would make large purchases on the OTC markets as often as I could, and I would be strategically market dumping portions of these purchases on the retail platforms to suppress retail price, and therefore also control the OTC price since I would imagine it is connected.
Done well this could create a stable price at which to load up as much OTC bitcoin as I possibly could.
If this is being done, then it is going to multiply the fuel in the eventual rocket by bottling up all the momentum that the OTC purchases were not making in real time. Effectively it is hedging big purchases with a short on the retail platforms. It ends up being levered to a degree by the fact that retail volumes (at least for trade sizes) are smaller and it would not take much to move, or suppress the market.
Even if that strategy is just a paranoid fantasy, the rest about the retail and OTC markets is true without a doubt. And even if the big players are not manipulating the whole market by the retail shops, then we will STILL see the eventual intersection of demand with supply in a magnitude never seen before. But the fuse is lit. And the smart money can see this (MSTR LOL). Don;t you think they are going to do everything in their power to delay the inevitable?
And by my back of the napkin calculations there is no way for this particular market to sustain it's current course for very much longer. Eventually the early whales will be done selling. I wonder what Chamath is doing. I think he is too smart to sell much. On other other hand he's definitely in the green on his purchase.
Personally I think a drop to 14k is not very likely unless it is purposefully dumped there by the biggest players. And though the motivation to do so is outlined as well as I can above, I just do not think that strategy is going to be able to last much longer. The only thing that scares me are the big Central Banks and their pet governments. They will have an incentive to use regulatory powers to crush the market while they do their late accumulation, and then "come around" loosening those regs once they have loaded up.
Interesting times.
Actually, this idea came to me last week, but i wasn't focused enough to write it down in a transparent, logical way. I deleted the draft after the second attempt. Blame it on the weed Anyway, when bitcoin count in circulation decreases far enough, the OTC's will likely follow the shooting retail price, and fomo surge will probably eat up huge sell-offs just like that. Also, if regulation continues, these kind of market manipulations will go bust and therefore vanish sooner or later. |
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So i finally received my "black friday" ledger nano S.
The next step was to request ledger.fr to delete my personal data from their e-commerce systems, pointing them to Art 17. of the EU's GDPR (a.k.a. "right to be forgotten").
They have to keep parts of the data, for example for legal purposes, but since the order got completed by signed delivery, they should delete the order data from their shopping server, which is accessible from the www.
A part of the procedure is to notify the requesting person of deletion asap, if possible even send some kind of proof.
I'll keep you updated on this.
Gotta go to the workshop now, crafting some fresh jewelry for them customers, having the next bitcoin pump in the back of my mind (and i hope in front of my eyes when i have returned, hahaha).
L8erz
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I just found out that there exists a belt fed automatic grenade machine gun. My life has changed.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfqxekbA7g[img width="200"]https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hr0N1FMYcKY/ToW5fqpgpZI/AAAAAAAAAO4/A_B8i8CEOSk/s1600/Urban+Armory+-+Mk+19+grenade-launcher.JPG[/img] Merry Christmas!  Thank you, what a beauty, now if I could only get a real claymore as well. Astonishing. I thought that 20mm sniper rifle, which' ammo basically rips bodies apart, would be the top for decades. I was wrong I have shot a 20 mm cannon in the marines in the 80s, that was fun. They are unfortunately decommissioned now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M/40_Automatic_cannon360rpm.  A different beast. I would prefer lurking and invisibly take out my enemies, one by one. Meditative action. You don't have to shoot full auto, you can shoot single shots as well Heh, ok I thought that the full auto mode was where the fun was mainly at |
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I just found out that there exists a belt fed automatic grenade machine gun. My life has changed.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPfqxekbA7g[img width="200"]https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hr0N1FMYcKY/ToW5fqpgpZI/AAAAAAAAAO4/A_B8i8CEOSk/s1600/Urban+Armory+-+Mk+19+grenade-launcher.JPG[/img] Merry Christmas! Thank you, what a beauty, now if I could only get a real claymore as well. Astonishing. I thought that 20mm sniper rifle, which' ammo basically rips bodies apart, would be the top for decades. I was wrong I have shot a 20 mm cannon in the marines in the 80s, that was fun. They are unfortunately decommissioned now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M/40_Automatic_cannon360rpm. A different beast. I would prefer lurking and invisibly take out my enemies, one by one. Meditative action. |
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