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2861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested In The Bahamas, Set For 'Prompt' Extradition After US on: December 18, 2022, 10:12:30 PM

So here is the biggest conspiracy of all in crypto... So there are small and mid actors that sure have lots of crypto but question was were they ethical and actually care about their community? Just as Wall Street and Hollywood have talking heads of perception enter SBF, CZ and all the rest. I'm thinking the bigs from Wall Street are trying to shake down the small and mid actors in the crypto space so they can control our space as well just like Wall Street and commodities in general. So CZ and SBF were merely actors literally and totally just to make the big Wall Street people look like our saviors when they both crash their own exchanges. Problem (Crypto brings too much freedom we need to control it) Reaction (implement bad actors SBF and CZ) Solution (Come in as the saviors and control it all)
I think that demanding that they care about their community is too much to ask, and even irrelevant if they care or not. If they are not braking any laws and follow regulations, that's good enough for me. I am assuming that people from wall street want to capitalize on crypto markets, but i don't think that they want to be seen as "rock stars" with fan base like in crypto, we tend to idolize our leaders. But wall street doesn't really make the rules about control, FATF and organisations like it does.

If wall street could choose, they would definitely choose freedom. They just don't see custodial ownership as freedom, as they know they will have to work with regulators. Like the rest of us will in the future.
2862  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 18, 2022, 09:50:29 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before but i couldn't find it.

What are the slots with the biggest possible multipliers? I see that sweet bonanza has 21,100x and so far that's the biggest i've found. So instead of going them one by one like i've been doing for a while i thought i better just ask.

It would be so helpful if i could sort/rank the slot machines by volatility, biggest multiplier or RTP. Also being to filter showing only slots with buy feature would be cool. Maybe these could be implemented in the future?
2863  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla’s stock prices dropping fast on: December 18, 2022, 08:35:36 PM
Well, there have been critical voices over the last few years about a massive overvaluation of the Tesla company in general.
Ofc, nobody holding Tesla stocks wants to hear that, however I wouldn't be suprised to see a huge implosion within the next 1 to 3 years.
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Remember when that Space Karen himself said the tesla stock was too high?



I was just looking at the chart and there's no way of telling where the bottom is. There are support levels of course but when the company is going to toilet those meme lines are pointless. It might as well drop 70% more just because the cost of electricity renders the cars unusable in Europe.

And then there's the fact that Elon used 26% of if own networth to buy a twitter only to see advertisers funding it leaving. That doesn't really grow trust in the Tesla leadership.
2864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's behind Donald Trump's issuing NFTs ? on: December 18, 2022, 08:14:37 PM
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Do you think Donald’s fans will get scammed? That’s the whole idea about NFT’s. It is not Donald’s fault if people want to get scammed.
What are you talking about? So it's not a scammers fault when he scams people? It's victim's own fault because they are stupid? Let me remind you of this next time you get hacked. Just because you can use social engineering to scam people it doesn't mean it would be right thing to do.

However most of these people probably are not buying it because they think they are worth anything, unless people start to wash money with them, which they most likely do now that i think of it.

Any other ex president that would have done this would just give the money to charity, Trump just keeps it and has creator fee of 10%.

At some point he most likely will be bragging how big this is going to be, which makes me think at some point this will get investigated as a illegal sale of securities.
2865  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance lots of FUD on: December 18, 2022, 08:03:18 PM
It's true that Binance is huge, and as I said, it's bigger than 10 other exchanges combined, but that doesn't mean it's the heart of the market. Binance has only been around since 2017, and the market has appeared before and also developed without Binance. If it falls, we will return to the beginning, we will have to start over, but not to the point of dying with it.
Binance is part of the market, not the crypto market is part of Binance. I am one of those who do not believe that Binance will collapse, but I would not believe that it is the only lifeline of the market.
It wouldn't "kill" the market but it would definitely cripple it, depending what happened and how much reserves would have been lost. AND it would most likely make this a biggest bear market yet. It would be worse then UST crash or any exchange crash before it.

There isn't even anything in crypto history that would compare to it, mtgox, cryptsy, mintpal/moolah were the ones causing panic in the past but this would be exponentially worse on whole another level. And as we don't have anything in the past to compare it to, we would be in uncharted waters that are just too hard to speculate.
2866  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XRP future looks shaky and uncertain on: December 17, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
I have seen lots of topics here on XRP in the time period of over 5 to 6 years but never come across anything negative to XRP. Most of the times, I felt like all such topics were by paid shillers hired by ripple corporations. In my observation, XRP will stay here regardless of we like or not. It is a centralized corporate coin which deceiving naive investors through pump and dump still we cannot do anything about that as it is a long running shit and just part of this altcoin space.
XRP army, i rememer it. I think in the past it was stronger because there weren't that many camps in altcoins. And i have to admit, price was working well for the early investors. I didn't buy it because even back in early days i didn't see any more point to it then i see now. These days i am including idiots into my calculations when i am considering if something is worth buying. Because for a profit maximalist it doesn't matter when we talk about the short time gains that what tech will get used in the end. They don't care how centralized or worthless the tech is.
2867  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty hunters, how much you really earned in the last two years? on: December 17, 2022, 05:44:05 PM
Some of them are worth it but i wouldn't recommend anyone saying how much they made especially lately. I've seen enough hacks using social engineering to hack emails and clear accounts. Projects that pay with liquid altcoins like btc or eth are worth it, but when they pay with their own tokens it's a gamble. I mean i have made a lot in the past with those too (all gone now). Sometimes you can even hit the jackpot when there are for some reason not enough participants and your stake can be worth a lot. And after that you just hope that the project will get picked by a whale.

Also i have seen how many bounty program just out right lies. That they have a $200k usdt budget without escrow, or that $200k usdt is actually in worth of their own token. Or even that they will pay after they get the money after ico, which obviously wouldn't happen even if they raised money.
2868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL] Will BNB crash? Will Binance go bankrupt? on: December 17, 2022, 05:29:25 PM
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My takeaway from this… The more BTC people withdraw from exchanges, the higher the price of BTC will go.
What are you basing this on? If people withdraw their btc it would just remove liquidity, and if they managed to crash exchanges by withdrawing their assets, btc would obviously go down with the trust on the markets. And yes, while one bitcoin = one bitcoin meme would apply but that doesn't help if we don't want to get back to bitcoin stone ages.

And with a place like binance going down we would lose ton of institutional investors with it. And let's face it, we need institutions if we want to be taken seriously. If not, it's back to 2010 for us.
2869  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Huge Binance outflows - should we be concerned? on: December 17, 2022, 05:02:48 PM
I am not worried but in case you are it doesn't cost anything for you (except the withdrawal fees) to get your money out. Just be aware that when you hold your private key in the piece of paper that you can't lost in any circumstances. Or if you keep your money in hot wallet, when you are more exposed to phishing and scammers. My advice is, if you withdraw, don't tell anyone how much you withdrawed. Because it might not be much now, it can be 100x later and people who find their marks know this.
2870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are we ever going to see this on gambling platforms some day. on: December 17, 2022, 04:54:59 PM
Is there any fighting game like Mortal Kombat where you challenge gamers around the world taking a bet? I don't want to take bet on Mike Tyson or Joshua I want gaming by one self, I believe this is less dependant on Luck, this requires more skill than mere luck.
Wouldn't this be instantly broken by bots playing as their response time is way faster then any humans? Maybe if that arena would be on live stage just like in other computer games this could work. But i don't see as much skill in it or any reason it would be any more interesting or impressive to watch then shooting games they are currently playing.. I would rather watch civilization when it comes to computer games tbh. There's not enough strategy behind mortal combat that would make it interesting for the viewers.
2871  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested In The Bahamas, Set For 'Prompt' Extradition After US on: December 17, 2022, 04:45:20 PM
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BINANCE WILL FALL NEXT!!! We Have The *PROOF* CZ Will Be ARRESTED SOON!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD5Xp7zTO68
So chico crypto's proof about this another twitter influencer getting DMs from an unknown account. And those DMs were just vague fud from a guy even the original twitter account.

And this "exchanges are coordinating together" being illegal how exactly? We have known this for years that big exchanges are coordinating amongst themselves in chats where they talk about tracking stolen funds etc. If i recall correctly CZ himself has comfirmed this in a tweet or in an interview. Rest of the video was just basically repeating what has happened and hoping that's enough for the jump of faith to proof.

Involving old bitfinex fud at the end into this with that annoying voice/attitude/mannerism makes me hopes video would just end.

Hate to say but contrary to what the video title claims this is not PROOF.
2872  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁Welcome Pack on BetFury| 💸300 Free Spins + 150% Deposit Bonus on: December 17, 2022, 02:35:07 PM
@O48O This is what I’m saying since Betfury pointed out before that Binance listing is totally free while in reality there’s a different type of listing that can be paid. The 200K BNB is not a direct listing fee but it serves same as that since the team needs to hold huge amount of BNB that they can’t access while there coin is listed.
Apparently they can't access to it after it's delisted either. Just one more reason not to even bother listing it. We have enough liquidity for decent amount of trades in biswap. If a whale wants to dump it in there we would just get the token cheaper.

And if this listing would make BFG price pumped higher for some reason in the markets, i couldn't think one reason of not selling now. Because it's not like we have any better fundamentals then. Imho the token is too valuable right now for me even considering buying it. Not until Betfury breaks their silence about the future of BFG and their plans to buy it from the markets and burning it.
2873  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ''Killer Robots'' on: December 17, 2022, 02:22:11 PM
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Elon Musk, “cutting"edge” AI is "actually “far more" dangerous than nukes.”
I understand the point against and for of them, but when Elon or is talking about artificial intelligence, he isn't talking about this kind of artificial intelligence. But more in a self aware scifi way. And i have hard time believing that he understands AI tech well enough to have any sort of meaningful opinion about this. And yes i know he owns cutting edge ai tech firms. But i still wouldn't give his views too much weight. He isn't the engineer building them nor he could.

Ai in the sense of this tech makes sense a lot. There has been many shootings by police and frankly i would be more afraid of a human police then ai police. Even in a case where ai makes an error it would be fraction of errors humans do when they wield a gun adrenaline running in their system while they need to make judgements in a fraction of a second. Naturally they want to stay alive so they rather shoot first.
2874  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: December 17, 2022, 02:13:32 PM
You're trying to find logic in his posts? Give up, mate, it's pointless thing.
I still think it's important for deranged people to hear sense, not to let them live on their bubble not being able to mirror themself against the world. I know there are professionals that get paid to listen to them but i find it my duty to help. Also when they are paid russian trolls, we are maybe not getting paid enough to talk with them, but letting them normalize lies is just something i will fight back, at least on the days i happen to have more energy to do that.

But yeah, obviously what he is saying is nonsensical. Even that reply to me now
2875  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁Welcome Pack on BetFury| 💸300 Free Spins + 150% Deposit Bonus on: December 17, 2022, 01:16:53 PM
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As you have an answer for all questions cause you all know your subject, could you explain why the BFG reachs such price? It's the lower price or so since the launch of BFG. So who are the sellers at this level? It's the Dev team who got free BFG who can afford to sell at the shitty price?
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Price of the tokens go down with the dividends that are going down. And dividends are the main reason people are holding the tokens. And if you count them dropping this rate for a year, it's smarter to sell now then after a year for example. This of course only depends how their tokenomics look like in the future, and basically people who are buying that there would be a positive answer to that in near future.

PS : I can't login since thursday evening. It's saturday morning and still can't. Access denied for my country. It's been 2 years I use Betfury. You have the same problem?

Mine works perfectly fine, are you using VPN and where do you live?
2876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fees on Dormant Accounts on Crypto Gambling Platforms on: December 17, 2022, 01:09:11 PM
Thanks for the tip, i didn't have a clue that they would do this. I was just thinking few days ago that when i die, would my be money safe in gambling sites for my kids.
And as in comparison, while ago i hadn't logged to my freebitco.in (gambling site) account for over a year or two, and my money had only grow with interest. So there are different policies out there if you are thinking of future.
2877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's behind Donald Trump's issuing NFTs ? on: December 16, 2022, 08:04:50 PM
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I don't really know, why the reason he going to NFTs.
Because he is broke and wants attention. Do we have to look deeper? I can't wait him to brag how valuable they will be in the future and because of it, whole event would be illegal sale of securities.

When i got the Twitter account @nftcollector i knew NFTs would be big but this is just pathetic and surreal.

We are definitely not have seen the bottom yet. This is one of the strongest signals for market crash.
2878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Best Crypto Exchange For Altcoins? on: December 16, 2022, 05:43:51 PM
The best way is to go to coinmarketcap and search for the altcoins you want to buy. You will find information about which exchange it is listed on as well as other essential information.
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This is a good advice, and there also are some tokens that are not listed yet but they are trading in uniswap, pankaceswap and there are several buy opportunities on launchpads our there. But you need to do some digging on those and double check that you are buying a token with a correct contract address becuse there are ton of scammers and phishers out there giving you a wrong one.
2879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where would Twitter go after its takeover by Elon Musk ? on: December 16, 2022, 04:58:30 PM
Didn't he say that this was about that guy following his private plane on twitter, which is public data. Meanwhile he posts video in his feed about some guy's register plate who tried follow him. Like a normal man with 121 million mob of followers would see this as a responsible thing to do.

Imagine if that stalker guy gets doxxed and gets harassed turns out to be some mentally challenged or mental patient, which elon is now ridiculing and basically calling for justice. I am pretty sure this rocket genius haven't even thought this far.
2880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: This forum looks more like Altcoin Price Discussion on: December 16, 2022, 04:41:39 PM
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I wish there was something similar for altcoins, where no price or investment discussion was allowed...
Well only thing you can do right now is to is show us the way and be an example instead wishing that from others.

Start your own threads about altcoins that are not about price but more on the technical side. And if you want to tune out that price talk even more you could make those threads self moderated (which i don't recommend) with the rule of "no price talk".

However sometimes incentives and inflation etc are important to talk about when we talk about game theory of tokenomics in staking/mining. Because that's important part of security. So maybe those threads shouldn't have absolute rules on that

But i totally understand your point. I think that many people would enjoy such threads while most people in here are not equipped to comment in them.
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