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2881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 01:52:12 PM
Not sure why the price is going down... $40 fees are the future.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I am bullish in Bitcoin fees. Now I just need to find where to trade some futures for it.

Price goes down but fees goes up. This is the future of money!

Actually fees are going down atm.

Even if they do go down... the trust and faith are gone from a lot of users with the way things are set up right now.

Something needs to change in my opinion.

If Bitcoin can't be used economically in a vending machine... there is a problem.
2882  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 12:40:45 PM
Not sure why the price is going down... $40 fees are the future.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
2883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: FreeBitcoins.com - Sell your empty BTC , LTC and DOGE addy. on: December 24, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
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2884  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 10:44:09 AM
Why is Bitcoin price going down in price?  It's clearly the future with an average of $40 transaction fees... lots of confidence in the market I'd say.

<emote of a gif killing itself>
2885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FLO] Florin | 0.10 Upgrade | The original tx msg coin | Project Alexandria on: December 24, 2017, 10:37:55 AM
Chasing volume in Crypto isn't a very good idea IMO, but good luck.
2886  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 11:01:58 AM
I'm a big fucking boy and I'll put myself to bed when I'm god damn well ready...
<snip of Archer picture>

let me guess, it's friday night end of week before christmas hols and you hit the bottle early ... dropped some pills and bubble the bong, your missus has hit the hay without you and your holed up in the man-cave nursing a serious buzz on your own and it's getting late for your age ... so you hop on-line and look around for cats to kick to let off some steam??

Wrong.

I paid $165 to send $181 and I'm here to kick cats to blow off steam off over that.
  https://blockchain.info/tx/30f824f4233ef331c12864bf3237c9a785b0e55a4c26bf3638aa9fbc8b067ebf

Bitcoin Core wallet gives the same estimate for 2 block fees as 7 day fees  Roll Eyes  I'd imagine this is due to the miner's manipulative spam for profit.

The "faucet" industry is taking a POUNDING right now... FreeBitco.in is having payment troubles because of all of this and Coinpot.co is as well... I'd imagine there is going to be a flood of pissed off little gay faucet users shortly.  
2887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:48:45 AM
Since exaggerating blockchain stuff is doable...  Roll Eyes

All my numbers I've posted are real.

You are the one that is grossly full of shit <3.

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

Good luck with all your shit posts and I pray that people can see through "you peoples" shit.

I'm a big fucking boy and I'll put myself to bed when I'm god damn well ready...

2888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:42:27 AM
Not sure how I'm going to exaggerate something that is on the blockchain...   Roll Eyes

Feel free to check.

https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/bcc_digs/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/wallets/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/digs/

I never denied a spam attack either kiddo.   Kiss
2889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:26:31 AM
I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

You're going to completely disappear when Bitcoin hits next ATH. I've seen this a thousand times on this thread.


I'll be here.  I've been "here" since the ATH of $50 and up.

Regardless if Bitcoin is $1 tomorrow or $1,000,000.... I'll be here if I'm alive.   Kiss
2890  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:21:56 AM
I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

Roshambo or rock, paper, scissors ?

I'll go for a round of roshambo if I can go first <3

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

I'll take a rain check Cheesy

Time to smoke a doobie, go to bed and get ready for a long day of paying huge BCore fees while liquidating peoples Bitcoin Cash for them again in the morning!  *yum*

You seem to name call people a lot JayJuanGee. Are you in high school?

The dudes just a bitch... this is what happens when your family doesn't love you and you have to find love on the web!

Hateful nasty creatures they are! Cool

Gnight everyone and best of luck in all of y'alls trades <3
2891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
probably you have been too busy sucking the dicks of Roger, Craig, Jihan and some of the other big blockers and bitcoin bashers.

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

Good luck with all your shit posts and I pray that people can see through "you peoples" shit.
2892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:05:01 AM
If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Clearly you aren't reading what I'm writing.

If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Why don't you grow the fuck up and figure out ways that you can work around any issue that you might have than trying to act as if the whole fucking sky is falling.  Get a fucking grip on reality... yeah we all fucking know that fees are high right now, so if we are trying to be practical, then we are not sending a lot of small transaction on the bitcoin blockchain if we can avoid it. and we are attempting to figure out ways that we are not personally bearing those extra costs.

Some of us are actually involved with Bitcoin outside of posting long pointless posts on one thread.

Sounds like you are just ready for a central Bitcoin bank that centralizes Bitcoin and have them save the day!!! Great plan... that should work well.

My grip on reality is spot on when it comes to these fees.  I deal with this reality multiple times a day when I'm liquidating folks Bitcoin Cash and sending them Bitcoin Core for FreeBitcoins.com... the reality is that BCore has some serious fucking problems right now.

I still have three outstanding transactions from a week ago.. so I know.

Holy shit!  Three whole transactions?!?!?! Jesus Christ!  

No wonder you don't care about this shit... if I was a nobody like you with no one actually counting on me to get them paid, I wouldn't be concerned either.

Furthermore, yesterday, I sold about $6k bitcoin to someone who wanted to buy some bitcoin from me.  Actually he wanted to buy $13k, and I told him that I was only going to sell him $5k, but if he wanted to get $6k, I would agree to $6k rather than $5k if he paid me $50 extra for the transaction fee.  He said o.k..... no problem.  He wanted the extra $1k and he did not mind paying the high fee.  

I've also implimented a $200 trading fee for people who wish to purchase Pappy Van Winkle from me using BCore Coin.  

A day or so earlier the fee was around $20, and a couple days earlier the fee was around $12.  So I am fucking well aware of the increases in the fees, which is frustrating for me, too, but you don't see me whining about it in the same nutjob way as you, because I am figuring out work arounds, and I also understand that there is a bit of a war going on right now and there are malicious players who are attacking the bitcoin network.  I am not sure if either the attacks are going to go away or if there are ways that such spam attacks can be fixed, but I am willing to accept that the new state of bitcoin could possibly be a state in which spam attacks continue to be ongoing which causes higher fees and also causes slower transaction times and also takes away some of the lower cost use cases of bitcoin because the bcash nutjobs and who ever else is engaging in such ongoing and persistent spam attacks continue to believe it is in their interests to continue to attack bitcoin.  So in the end, this spam attack dynamic becomes the new reality of bitcoin, at least for the time being and it could persist for a long time, so we have to figure out ways to deal with it and to prepare ourself for such new situation
Dude you're nutty as a fucking fruitloop... you sit here posting day in and day out personally attacking people who have legit issues.  Legit issues that you yourself acknowlege!  Roll Eyes

if we don't like it, then we sell our bitcoins, no?  If we think that there are better solutions, then we buy into them, right?  Oh no, instead you want to whine about it, rather than figuring out some work arounds, right?

I'm talking about a problem and working on a way to fix it, but it's tough to fix a problem that the developers in control of are making and/or going to make so much money off.

Hell... your idea of a fix is to centralize Bitcoin and handle the transactions offchain right?  Good thinking fucktard.
2893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
maybe bitcoin will not be able to economically and competitively process transactions under $1k.. so then bitcoin's value is going to have to be somewhere else, and perhaps for the larger and larger transactions.... maybe this will resolve itself, and maybe it will not... .. but don't fucking act as if this is some kind of purposeful thing that core developers have caused.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin was meant to be used by everyday people for everyday things such as vending... I don't believe Satoshi would have wasted time talking about this if it wasn't in his imagination.

The current core developers seem to have absolutely lost sight of that... hell, you seem to have lost sight of that as well.

Right now, Bitcoin Core is the most expensive way to transfer money of any amount the more I think about it.

I can send a $10,000,000 USD money wire for $25 from my bank.

I can buy two $500 Vanilla visa cards for $4.95 each ($9.90 total.)

I can send $500 for free using Facebook.

ACH for a 25 cents (been a while since I checked ACH fees).

FFS, It's fucking cheaper to Western Union right now for god sakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why... would ANYONE use BCore Coin?  I can understand why people would buy BCore Coin (because you can get rich quick), but I can't understand why someone would use it with these absurd fees.

Using BCore Coin is like cashing your paycheck at a pawn shop when your bank is right across the street.

Get the fuck out of here with your "bitcoin was meant to be" language.  Either you like it or you don't.  Either you invest in it or you don't.  

If you like some other coin, then go the fuck and invest in those coins... Bye bye... adios.


There are a lot of things that bitcoin is, and there are a lot of things that are in development.  Accordingly, we know that bitcoin is not currently in any kind of locked state.  So anyone can decide whether to buy bitcoin or to sell it, and it seems to me that we have a decent chance of returning to ATHs before the end of this calendar year or soon thereafter, so in spite of your various proclamations regarding what bitcoin should be or should have been, the market is likely going to continue to vote in favor of its current value and future value and the price will likely continue to rise because of these ongoing and persistent buying pressures.

Shut the fuck up with your telling me to do this or that.  You're a fucking nobody... remember that.

If you think "Bitcoin was meant to be" $40 per transaction... you should really kill yourself.  You've been here long enough to know better than that.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin was meant to be used by people for goods of all sizes (candy bars to lambos & beyond).  Period.  End of story.  No fucking debating.  If you disagree... stop wasting thread space here and go read Satoshi's Bitcointalk posts.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

I don't even understand how this is a debate...
2894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.
bcash is so fun

et tu, BAC. Cry

I'm sick of BCore Coin being unusable and people thinking it is fucking some future tech because they put $100 in Coinbase and now it is worth $1000.

BCore Coin fucking SUCKS at the moment regardless of whatever the price is.

I wouldn't buy Bitcoin Core right now if it was $100 a coin and I fucking love Buttcoins!


There is no such thing as bcore, even though I know that you are trying to derogatorily refer to bitcoin in a way that is equivalent to the way that the world refers to Bcash.

Why don't you divest yourself from bitcoin, if that is what you are wanting to do, or perhaps just own a small part of bitcoin, and then put the rest of your efforts into bcash, if you think that bcash is some kind of superior coin that you want to shill in this bitcoin thread.

So go off to your own lillie forums rather than complaining and exaggerating nonsense about bitcoin including attempting to try to suggest that bitcoin is broken or will not overcome some of the current attacks upon it in the coming years and with increasing developing and network effects that are likely to be inevitably beneficial to bitcoin.. and sure a lot of the alts are going to profit from this too... because if bitcoin succeeds, then likely a lot of alts, ICOs, and bitcoin attack forks are also going to have some platform and some ability to profit as well from such a lucrative growth oriented environment.

so, go go go.. bugger off, BayAreaCoins.  Roll Eyes

I'm here to stay... thanks though.

There absolutely is such thing as BCore and I couldn't give two shits about BCash... we are actively liquidating BCash for BCore using FreeBitcoins.com, but this is getting more and more difficult as BCore fees get worse and worse by the day.

What am I exaggerating? Because the numbers I'm posting are real numbers that anyone can check...

The shit you are throwing out there is 60% horse shit, 30% pipe dreams and 10% garbage.  Basically, all I've heard you say is "We are getting spammed... there is nothing we can do about it.  I know Bitcoin is worthless right now, but maybe we find a niche for our $40 fees."
2895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 09:08:20 AM
What if crypto is Skynet and we all die

Better than spending $40 fucking dollars in fees to send $10 fucking dollars payments Tongue  Cool

Sorry if I sound super bitchy, but these fees are fucking destroying me at the moment.

I know a lot of y'all don't actually use Bitcoin outside of Coinbase, but for those of us that do... we are getting fucking murdered atm.   Angry Lips sealed Cry
2896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 09:06:17 AM
maybe bitcoin will not be able to economically and competitively process transactions under $1k.. so then bitcoin's value is going to have to be somewhere else, and perhaps for the larger and larger transactions.... maybe this will resolve itself, and maybe it will not... .. but don't fucking act as if this is some kind of purposeful thing that core developers have caused.  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin was meant to be used by everyday people for everyday things such as vending... I don't believe Satoshi would have wasted time talking about this if it wasn't in his imagination.

The current core developers seem to have absolutely lost sight of that... hell, you seem to have lost sight of that as well.

Right now, Bitcoin Core is the most expensive way to transfer money of any amount the more I think about it.

I can send a $10,000,000 USD money wire for $25 from my bank.

I can buy two $500 Vanilla visa cards for $4.95 each ($9.90 total.)

I can send $500 for free using Facebook.

ACH for a 25 cents (been a while since I checked ACH fees).

FFS, It's fucking cheaper to Western Union right now for god sakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why... would ANYONE use BCore Coin?  I can understand why people would buy BCore Coin (because you can get rich quick), but I can't understand why someone would use it with these absurd fees.

Using BCore Coin is like cashing your paycheck at a pawn shop when your bank is right across the street.

Obviously I'm sympathetic about the fees situation. But the fee market is working. I remember back when we were throwing bones we had to switch to alts. I wasn't happy about it, but you use the right tool for the job.

I would argue that the fee market is not working.

The way I see it if I had BAC Coin and BAC coin could handle 100 transactions per block.  If I'm the one mining the blocks and collecting the reward... what the fuck do I care what I spend if it causes everyone else to compete with me?

If I send 0 transactions... everyone else has to spend at least $0.01

If I send 100 transactions for $1 a pop... everyone else has to spend at least $1.01. *cha ching*

I'm going to get the transaction fees anyways, so of fucking course, I'm going to spam BAC Coin for year and years to come because it is GROSSLY profitable.

It doesn't seem like rocket science.
2897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 08:49:10 AM
My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.
bcash is so fun

et tu, BAC. Cry

I'm sick of BCore Coin being unusable and people thinking it is fucking some future tech because they put $100 in Coinbase and now it is worth $1000.

BCore Coin fucking SUCKS at the moment regardless of whatever the price is.

I wouldn't buy Bitcoin Core right now if it was $100 a coin and I fucking love Buttcoins!
2898  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [Unofficial] Coinpot.co - new microwallet on: December 23, 2017, 07:54:34 AM
I've had a pending withdraw for well over two days now as well...

Wish these little shitty services would do what they say they are going to do in the timeframe they state...
2899  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 07:50:09 AM
My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin Core Coin is absolutely shitting on the confidence of cryptocurrency as a whole... if anything Bitcoin Cash is trying to save us.

The average cost per transaction for BCore Coin at the moment is over $40!!!

If you want to buy a candy bar with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 40x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a hit of acid with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 4x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a 8th of weed with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 2x the cost due to fees.

I seriously doubt that BCore Coin would have been what it is today without the Silk Road and I doubt the Silk Road would have been anything with such absurd transfer fees.

Even if you aren't buying drugs... why would anyone use BCore to send payments when there are SO many cheaper options?  In fact, I can't think of a single option that costs more than BCore to send $500.

For those who say "Bitcoin isn't meant to buy candy with!"... why would Satoshi waste his time talking about Bitcoin and vending machines in that case?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269
2900  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The "Bitcoin" used here should be called Bitcoin Core Coin. (BCore Coin) on: December 23, 2017, 07:35:29 AM
Kloug, you aren't even worth answering.

Good luck though of course.
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