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[JayJuanGee]

My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

bcash is so fun

et tu, BAC.

I'm sick of BCore Coin being unusable and people thinking it is fucking some future tech because they put $100 in Coinbase and now it is worth $1000.

BCore Coin fucking SUCKS at the moment regardless of whatever the price is.

I wouldn't buy Bitcoin Core right now if it was $100 a coin and I fucking love Buttcoins!

There is no such thing as bcore, even though I know that you are trying to derogatorily refer to bitcoin in a way that is equivalent to the way that the world refers to Bcash.

Why don't you divest yourself from bitcoin, if that is what you are wanting to do, or perhaps just own a small part of bitcoin, and then put the rest of your efforts into bcash, if you think that bcash is some kind of superior coin that you want to shill in this bitcoin thread.

So go off to your own lillie forums rather than complaining and exaggerating nonsense about bitcoin including attempting to try to suggest that bitcoin is broken or will not overcome some of the current attacks upon it in the coming years and with increasing developing and network effects that are likely to be inevitably beneficial to bitcoin.. and sure a lot of the alts are going to profit from this too... because if bitcoin succeeds, then likely a lot of alts, ICOs, and bitcoin attack forks are also going to have some platform and some ability to profit as well from such a lucrative growth oriented environment.

so, go go go.. bugger off, BayAreaCoins.  

I'm here to stay... thanks though.

There absolutely is such thing as BCore and I couldn't give two shits about BCash... we are actively liquidating BCash for BCore using FreeBitcoins.com, but this is getting more and more difficult as BCore fees get worse and worse by the day.

What am I exaggerating? Because the numbers I'm posting are real numbers that anyone can check...

The shit you are throwing out there is 60% horse shit, 30% pipe dreams and 10% garbage.  Basically, all I've heard you say is "We are getting spammed... there is nothing we can do about it.  I know Bitcoin is worthless right now, but maybe we find a niche for our $40 fees."

If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Why don't you grow the fuck up and figure out ways that you can work around any issue that you might have than trying to act as if the whole fucking sky is falling.  Get a fucking grip on reality... yeah we all fucking know that fees are high right now, so if we are trying to be practical, then we are not sending a lot of small transaction on the bitcoin blockchain if we can avoid it. and we are attempting to figure out ways that we are not personally bearing those extra costs.

I still have three outstanding transactions from a week ago.. so I know.

Furthermore, yesterday, I sold about $6k bitcoin to someone who wanted to buy some bitcoin from me.  Actually he wanted to buy $13k, and I told him that I was only going to sell him $5k, but if he wanted to get $6k, I would agree to $6k rather than $5k if he paid me $50 extra for the transaction fee.  He said o.k..... no problem.  He wanted the extra $1k and he did not mind paying the high fee. 

A day or so earlier the fee was around $20, and a couple days earlier the fee was around $12.  So I am fucking well aware of the increases in the fees, which is frustrating for me, too, but you don't see me whining about it in the same nutjob way as you, because I am figuring out work arounds, and I also understand that there is a bit of a war going on right now and there are malicious players who are attacking the bitcoin network.  I am not sure if either the attacks are going to go away or if there are ways that such spam attacks can be fixed, but I am willing to accept that the new state of bitcoin could possibly be a state in which spam attacks continue to be ongoing which causes higher fees and also causes slower transaction times and also takes away some of the lower cost use cases of bitcoin because the bcash nutjobs and who ever else is engaging in such ongoing and persistent spam attacks continue to believe it is in their interests to continue to attack bitcoin.  So in the end, this spam attack dynamic becomes the new reality of bitcoin, at least for the time being and it could persist for a long time, so we have to figure out ways to deal with it and to prepare ourself for such new situation, and if we don't like it, then we sell our bitcoins, no?  If we think that there are better solutions, then we buy into them, right?  Oh no, instead you want to whine about it, rather than figuring out some work arounds, right?

Whining about somebody explaining why BTC is bad... and accusing them of whining....

All you seem to have done is prove his point. Hilarious.

You are getting mixed up, if you are either confusing my points for whining or considering my points to be the equivalent to those of a troll/shill.

Perhaps you are the kind of person who also believes that the various alts, ICOs and bitcoin hardforks are equivalent to bitcoin, too?   

[TERA2]

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

[nikauforest]

My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

bcash is so fun

et tu, BAC.

I'm sick of BCore Coin being unusable and people thinking it is fucking some future tech because they put $100 in Coinbase and now it is worth $1000.

BCore Coin fucking SUCKS at the moment regardless of whatever the price is.

I wouldn't buy Bitcoin Core right now if it was $100 a coin and I fucking love Buttcoins!

There is no such thing as bcore, even though I know that you are trying to derogatorily refer to bitcoin in a way that is equivalent to the way that the world refers to Bcash.

Why don't you divest yourself from bitcoin, if that is what you are wanting to do, or perhaps just own a small part of bitcoin, and then put the rest of your efforts into bcash, if you think that bcash is some kind of superior coin that you want to shill in this bitcoin thread.

So go off to your own lillie forums rather than complaining and exaggerating nonsense about bitcoin including attempting to try to suggest that bitcoin is broken or will not overcome some of the current attacks upon it in the coming years and with increasing developing and network effects that are likely to be inevitably beneficial to bitcoin.. and sure a lot of the alts are going to profit from this too... because if bitcoin succeeds, then likely a lot of alts, ICOs, and bitcoin attack forks are also going to have some platform and some ability to profit as well from such a lucrative growth oriented environment.

so, go go go.. bugger off, BayAreaCoins.  

I'm here to stay... thanks though.

There absolutely is such thing as BCore and I couldn't give two shits about BCash... we are actively liquidating BCash for BCore using FreeBitcoins.com, but this is getting more and more difficult as BCore fees get worse and worse by the day.

What am I exaggerating? Because the numbers I'm posting are real numbers that anyone can check...

The shit you are throwing out there is 60% horse shit, 30% pipe dreams and 10% garbage.  Basically, all I've heard you say is "We are getting spammed... there is nothing we can do about it.  I know Bitcoin is worthless right now, but maybe we find a niche for our $40 fees."

If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Why don't you grow the fuck up and figure out ways that you can work around any issue that you might have than trying to act as if the whole fucking sky is falling.  Get a fucking grip on reality... yeah we all fucking know that fees are high right now, so if we are trying to be practical, then we are not sending a lot of small transaction on the bitcoin blockchain if we can avoid it. and we are attempting to figure out ways that we are not personally bearing those extra costs.

I still have three outstanding transactions from a week ago.. so I know.

Furthermore, yesterday, I sold about $6k bitcoin to someone who wanted to buy some bitcoin from me.  Actually he wanted to buy $13k, and I told him that I was only going to sell him $5k, but if he wanted to get $6k, I would agree to $6k rather than $5k if he paid me $50 extra for the transaction fee.  He said o.k..... no problem.  He wanted the extra $1k and he did not mind paying the high fee. 

A day or so earlier the fee was around $20, and a couple days earlier the fee was around $12.  So I am fucking well aware of the increases in the fees, which is frustrating for me, too, but you don't see me whining about it in the same nutjob way as you, because I am figuring out work arounds, and I also understand that there is a bit of a war going on right now and there are malicious players who are attacking the bitcoin network.  I am not sure if either the attacks are going to go away or if there are ways that such spam attacks can be fixed, but I am willing to accept that the new state of bitcoin could possibly be a state in which spam attacks continue to be ongoing which causes higher fees and also causes slower transaction times and also takes away some of the lower cost use cases of bitcoin because the bcash nutjobs and who ever else is engaging in such ongoing and persistent spam attacks continue to believe it is in their interests to continue to attack bitcoin.  So in the end, this spam attack dynamic becomes the new reality of bitcoin, at least for the time being and it could persist for a long time, so we have to figure out ways to deal with it and to prepare ourself for such new situation, and if we don't like it, then we sell our bitcoins, no?  If we think that there are better solutions, then we buy into them, right?  Oh no, instead you want to whine about it, rather than figuring out some work arounds, right?

Whining about somebody explaining why BTC is bad... and accusing them of whining....

All you seem to have done is prove his point. Hilarious.

You are getting mixed up, if you are either confusing my points for whining or considering my points to be the equivalent to those of a troll/shill.

Perhaps you are the kind of person who also believes that the various alts, ICOs and bitcoin hardforks are equivalent to bitcoin, too?   

You seem to name call people a lot JayJuanGee. Are you in high school?

[Wekkel]

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

I hold BTC so I am already in the ring.

Edit: and guys, please keep quoting endless text only to drop an unrelated line. My ability to scroll is unlimited 

[nikauforest]

This is like high school with all the name calling.

[HairyMaclairy]

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

Roshambo or rock, paper, scissors ?

[ErisDiscordia]

I am now 100% positive that JJG suffers from Logorrhea. Or rather, we suffer from his Logorrhea. It's like diarrhea, except you're uncontrollably shitting words instead of excrement.

[TERA2]

I hate to burst your bubble but this is probably going down.

[BayAreaCoins]

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

Roshambo or rock, paper, scissors ?

I'll go for a round of roshambo if I can go first <3

I want in on some of this action. Who wants to fight?

I'll take a rain check

Time to smoke a doobie, go to bed and get ready for a long day of paying huge BCore fees while liquidating peoples Bitcoin Cash for them again in the morning!  *yum*

You seem to name call people a lot JayJuanGee. Are you in high school?

The dudes just a bitch... this is what happens when your family doesn't love you and you have to find love on the web!

Hateful nasty creatures they are!

Gnight everyone and best of luck in all of y'alls trades <3

[becoin]

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

You're going to completely disappear when Bitcoin hits next ATH. I've seen this a thousand times on this thread.

[flynn]

Actually I like pretty much to read whats JJG has to say.

All the others OT things misleading about fees or talking about shitalts not much.

[BayAreaCoins]

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

You're going to completely disappear when Bitcoin hits next ATH. I've seen this a thousand times on this thread.

I'll be here.  I've been "here" since the ATH of $50 and up.

Regardless if Bitcoin is $1 tomorrow or $1,000,000.... I'll be here if I'm alive.   

[marcus_of_augustus]

What if crypto is Skynet and we all die

Better than spending $40 fucking dollars in fees to send $10 fucking dollars payments  

Sorry if I sound super bitchy, but these fees are fucking destroying me at the moment.

I know a lot of y'all don't actually use Bitcoin outside of Coinbase, but for those of us that do... we are getting fucking murdered atm.  

Jihan Wu and the malicious miner cartel have you over a barrel and are giving it hard to the merchants ... you guys gotta wise up and realise which enemies you let into your tent. The miners are NOT the merchant's friends in this game you dolts. They are withholding blocks, selectively spamming to the timing of blocks and transaction rates, switching hashpower to their pet speculative coin, all games are afoot now in the name of the mighty profit.

Jihan Wu is gonna gouge as much blood outta this fucker as he can before he disappears and he doesn't give a shit who or what gets burned along the way ... "You want fuck?, fuck your mother!".

If you are pissing and moaning about fees now, what's your business strategy for when the rewards run out and the entire security model of bitcoin is based on fees? ... oh, right, you don't got one cause you'll be long gone and you don't really give a shit about bitcoin in the end either.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Actually I like pretty much to read whats JJG has to say.

All the others OT things misleading about fees or talking about shitalts not much.

Seconded.

Was thinking of joining in, but I'm too sleepy to bother (about to drive to the family over the holidays and way outside of my usual waking hours).

[JayJuanGee]

If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Clearly you aren't reading what I'm writing.

I read enough.

If you are so content with bitcoin and you are putting your money into it, then why you whining so much like a little bitch?

Why don't you grow the fuck up and figure out ways that you can work around any issue that you might have than trying to act as if the whole fucking sky is falling.  Get a fucking grip on reality... yeah we all fucking know that fees are high right now, so if we are trying to be practical, then we are not sending a lot of small transaction on the bitcoin blockchain if we can avoid it. and we are attempting to figure out ways that we are not personally bearing those extra costs.

Some of us are actually involved with Bitcoin outside of posting long pointless posts on one thread.

Like what?   Are you just spouting off some nonsense talking point and trying to impress others with the level of your supposed involvement?

Sounds like you are just ready for a central Bitcoin bank that centralizes Bitcoin and have them save the day!!! Great plan... that should work well.

From where are you getting that nonsensical talking point that you are attributing to me?

I think that currently bitcoin is the only fucking threat to banks and governments, and the fact that the various BIG BLOCKER nutjobs had not been successful with their real agenda, to attempt to change bitcoin's governance, caused bitcoin to be less controlled and more decentralized than if any of the BIG blocker attacks had been successful.  So we are living in a relatively strong bitcoin right now that remains resilient and censorship resistant, immutable and secure... Thank you for that.  There continues to be various renegade attacks including the current spamming attacks to attempt to threaten and terrorize into attempting to make bitcoin more changeable .. and I am glad that core and the community recognizes bitcoin's value is not to give into the various ongoing terrorist attacks and shills.

My grip on reality is spot on when it comes to these fees.  

yeah,... whatever... you are looking at some micro-picture.

I deal with this reality multiple times a day when I'm liquidating folks Bitcoin Cash and sending them Bitcoin Core for FreeBitcoins.com... the reality is that BCore has some serious fucking problems right now.

Sounds like your serious fucking problem is called EXAGGERATION!!!!!

I still have three outstanding transactions from a week ago.. so I know.

Holy shit!  Three whole transactions?!?!?! Jesus Christ!  

No wonder you don't care about this shit... if I was a nobody like you with no one actually counting on me to get them paid, I wouldn't be concerned either.

Fuck off with your attempt to act as if you are important.  If you got people to pay, you better fucking figure it out, and maybe if you spent less time in the thread, you might be able to figure something out.

Furthermore, yesterday, I sold about $6k bitcoin to someone who wanted to buy some bitcoin from me.  Actually he wanted to buy $13k, and I told him that I was only going to sell him $5k, but if he wanted to get $6k, I would agree to $6k rather than $5k if he paid me $50 extra for the transaction fee.  He said o.k..... no problem.  He wanted the extra $1k and he did not mind paying the high fee.  

I've also implimented a $200 trading fee for people who wish to purchase Pappy Van Winkle from me using BCore Coin.  

That's the spirit... figure out what is going to work during these times, and maybe you can also call up your buddies Roger, Jihan and Craig and get them to stop spamming the bitcoin network, too.

A day or so earlier the fee was around $20, and a couple days earlier the fee was around $12.  So I am fucking well aware of the increases in the fees, which is frustrating for me, too, but you don't see me whining about it in the same nutjob way as you, because I am figuring out work arounds, and I also understand that there is a bit of a war going on right now and there are malicious players who are attacking the bitcoin network.  I am not sure if either the attacks are going to go away or if there are ways that such spam attacks can be fixed, but I am willing to accept that the new state of bitcoin could possibly be a state in which spam attacks continue to be ongoing which causes higher fees and also causes slower transaction times and also takes away some of the lower cost use cases of bitcoin because the bcash nutjobs and who ever else is engaging in such ongoing and persistent spam attacks continue to believe it is in their interests to continue to attack bitcoin.  So in the end, this spam attack dynamic becomes the new reality of bitcoin, at least for the time being and it could persist for a long time, so we have to figure out ways to deal with it and to prepare ourself for such new situation

Dude you're nutty as a fucking fruitloop... you sit here posting day in and day out personally attacking people who have legit issues.  Legit issues that you yourself acknowlege!  

You are the fucking fruitloop.  I just gave you some examples in order to acknowledge that we do not disagree about some of the facts, but that does not mean that we agree to your nutty ass conclusions that are attempting to suggest that core needs to do something like increase the block size or whatever other stupid ass big blocker proposal that you want to make in your shilling and whining efforts.

if we don't like it, then we sell our bitcoins, no?  If we think that there are better solutions, then we buy into them, right?  Oh no, instead you want to whine about it, rather than figuring out some work arounds, right?

I'm talking about a problem and working on a way to fix it, but it's tough to fix a problem that the developers in control of are making and/or going to make so much money off.

Developers are not causing this.. even though you want to lie about what the cause is.  The cause is spam attacks that are not initiated by bitcoin core developers.  So stop making shit up.

Hell... your idea of a fix is to centralize Bitcoin and handle the transactions offchain right?  Good thinking fucktard.

You are the fuck job that is complaining, so the burden is on you to suggest solutions.  I did not suggest any solutions besides the need for you to stop your silly ass whining and perhaps take your bullshit somewhere else.  Otherwise, maybe you could write a BIP, or pay someone to write one, since you seem to be so important.  You are the one that has the burden to show the problem and to show the logic and the fix to the problem.  Not me.  I am not the one who came in here whining about bullshit that we already know, and fees and transaction times are going up due to an ongoing and persistent spam issue. 

[JayJuanGee]

probably you have been too busy sucking the dicks of Roger, Craig, Jihan and some of the other big blockers and bitcoin bashers.

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

Good luck with all your shit posts and I pray that people can see through "you peoples" shit.

Good riddance.  We were starting to repeat anyhow, and you surely did not have much to contribute, except complaining about something that we already know is occurring, higher fees and slower transaction times dues to a spam attack.  Surely you attributed cause to be something else, but sounded like you were making shit up, and denying the reality of the spam attack.

[Fatman3001]

Soooo...... anyone bought a boat lately?

confirmed

congrats!

Huh? Oh, yeah. Got two of em. Almost willing to give one away just to get rid of the hassle of having to sell it. Thinking about buying one more too.

Let me guess. "Tirpitz" and "Bismarck"?

[BayAreaCoins]

Not sure how I'm going to exaggerate something that is on the blockchain...  

Feel free to check.

https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/bcc_digs/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/wallets/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/digs/

I never denied a spam attack either kiddo.  

[JayJuanGee]

I deal with this reality multiple times a day when I'm liquidating folks Bitcoin Cash and sending them Bitcoin Core for FreeBitcoins.com... the reality is that BCore has some serious fucking problems right now.

Sounds like your serious fucking problem is called EXAGGERATION!!!!!

Not sure how I'm going to exaggerate something that is on the blockchain...  

Feel free to check.

https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/bcc_digs/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/wallets/
https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/digs/

I never denied a spam attack either kiddo. 

Patronizing too.

I thought that we were done for today... apparently not.


Sleep well and see you tomorrow for your continued trolling, shilling and exaggerationing efforts.   

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Since exaggerating blockchain stuff is doable...  

All my numbers I've posted are real.

You are the one that is grossly full of shit <3.

I'm going to end this conversation with you at this point.

Good luck with all your shit posts and I pray that people can see through "you peoples" shit.