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2881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.
Yeah, same thing is on my mind. Good news comes out .... and a 10k dump comes. Everything I learned about crypto seems to work opposite with XC.
Am still in, sold nothing and will keep holding my precious . . . .



You're right that things seem to work in the opposite way for XC lately.

If were to guess why, I'd say that competitors know we're for real. They really don't want to be surpassed.

So they dump coins mined early on to keep XC appearing as if nothing big is happening. But it is, and they've got it coming.

Of course this is pure speculation, but hey.

It's a lame and short-lived tactic to keep dumping coins at cheap prices. Before long the news will be too good and even their dumping will make no difference. And before long they'll run out of cash and we'll be free of them henceforth.


I was thinking the same thing Arlyn. It seems to be the only explanation. The crypto war seems to be quite evident and XC is a huge contender and force to be reckoned with. Holding strong as good times are coming folks.

Yeah. I don't have a better explanation, that's for sure. Why else would someone dump on good news?

So basically I'm just interpreting this dumping as perverse good news. It's a sign that we're a serious threat.


Note to self: next time someone dumps on news, smile and wait patiently for the fundamentals to express themselves ;-)




To be a little more strategic, we can just buy these dumps up. Put in support for the price and you're gonna get cheap coins.

The more support, the faster this mystery whale runs out of coins to dump, and the richer we all get. :-)


2882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:32:56 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.
Yeah, same thing is on my mind. Good news comes out .... and a 10k dump comes. Everything I learned about crypto seems to work opposite with XC.
Am still in, sold nothing and will keep holding my precious . . . .



You're right that things seem to work in the opposite way for XC lately.

If were to guess why, I'd say that competitors know we're for real. They really don't want to be surpassed.

So they dump coins mined early on to keep XC appearing as if nothing big is happening. But it is, and they've got it coming.

Of course this is pure speculation, but hey.

It's a lame and short-lived tactic to keep dumping coins at cheap prices. Before long the news will be too good and even their dumping will make no difference. And before long they'll run out of cash and we'll be free of them henceforth.


I was thinking the same thing Arlyn. It seems to be the only explanation. The crypto war seems to be quite evident and XC is a huge contender and force to be reckoned with. Holding strong as good times are coming folks.

Yeah. I don't have a better explanation, that's for sure. Why else would someone dump on good news?

So basically I'm just interpreting this dumping as perverse good news. It's a sign that we're a serious threat.


Note to self: next time someone dumps on news, smile and wait patiently for the fundamentals to express themselves ;-)

2883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:19:48 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.
Yeah, same thing is on my mind. Good news comes out .... and a 10k dump comes. Everything I learned about crypto seems to work opposite with XC.
Am still in, sold nothing and will keep holding my precious . . . .



You're right that things seem to work in the opposite way for XC lately.

If were to guess why, I'd say that competitors know we're for real. They really don't want to be surpassed.

So they dump coins mined early on to keep XC appearing as if nothing big is happening. But it is, and they've got it coming.

Of course this is pure speculation, but hey.

It's a lame and short-lived tactic to keep dumping coins at cheap prices. Before long the news will be too good and even their dumping will make no difference. And before long they'll run out of cash and we'll be free of them henceforth.
2884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:15:58 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.
Yeah, same thing is on my mind. Good news comes out .... and a 10k dump comes. Everything I learned about crypto seems to work opposite with XC.
Am still in, sold nothing and will keep holding my precious . . . .



You're right that things seem to work in the opposite way for XC lately.

If were to guess why, I'd say that competitors know we're for real. They really don't want to be surpassed.

So they dump coins mined early on to keep XC appearing as if nothing big is happening. But it is, and they've got it coming.
2885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:11:18 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.

Perfect moment to take profits of the table and buy back cheaper before the next wave? Uncertainty from a mayor investor?

I think the first.. can't see why the second would be the case

I couldn't agree more. The fundamentals are as solid as ever, new updates are around the corner, and we've just solidified our credibility by honouring our commitment to go open source.

Outlook: super-positive.
2886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 04:08:32 PM
Anyone have thoughts why all the dumping today?  Very odd as there seems to be nothing but good news coming out.

Some whale has dumped on our news for the past month straight. Obviously they want to keep the price down.


2887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 03:53:14 PM
Hi folks

Another announcement:


We've stated in the past that we value open source code very highly and are privileged to share our ground-breaking tech with the crypto community.

Well today we make our mixing tech - that testing has shown to remove any link between sender and receiver on the blockchain - open source!

This is our Rev 1 mixer code. It is not the trustless mixing that XC currently uses.

You can expect more of XC's tech to be made public as we continue.

Enjoy, world! We hope that this will demonstrate XC's commitment to transparency, information-sharing, and good faith in the crypto community.

http://pastebin.com/G4mH4AxR





PS:SHITCOINS LAUNCHING IN 3...2.....1......

Ha ha. Well, we doubt it. It's not trustless mixing so there'll be no competition for XC.

2888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
Hi folks

Another announcement:


We've stated in the past that we value open source code very highly and are privileged to share our ground-breaking tech with the crypto community.

Well today we make our mixing tech - that testing has shown to remove any link between sender and receiver on the blockchain - open source!

This is our Rev 1 mixer code. It is not the trustless mixing that XC currently uses.

You can expect more of XC's tech to be made public as we continue.

Enjoy, world! We hope that this will demonstrate XC's commitment to transparency, information-sharing, and good faith in the crypto community.

http://pastebin.com/G4mH4AxR



2889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

If the chat is directly between the two nodes, it would give away his IP address. Probably not what he wants.

The message transportation is based on TOR? or multipath approach?

Actually it's the other way round: multipath is based on the Xnode protocol, which is how nodes send messages to each other (of any kind - EM or transactions).

TOR only obfuscates IP addresses, it doesn't send messages.


2890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 03:25:11 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?



It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.

Good stuff!  Grin Grin Grin

Is there a link somewere to more details on the TOR stick?

Is it going to be anything like TAILS with an incorporated XC app?

It's a Debian thing if I'm not mistaken.

Basically it's its own operating system, is pretty much immune to malware.

Yes, it has the app incorporated into it.

2891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 03:12:46 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?



It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.
2892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:57:29 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.

2893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.

2894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.

2895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
[weird opinion]

Oh hi Pookielax

Do you mean this support line?





Long term rising trendline has held since the bottom. I see no sign of distress.

Also I have no idea what trendline you were referring to because your chart lacked one... and the stochastic is in the undersold region.

Finally you're on the wrong thread to discuss trading. You know where to go for that since you used to be an XC community member.


2896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:37:49 PM
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.


2897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
Hi all

A nice little update from the devs:


There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Can't wait!




Sounds interesting.  Is this chat or messaging?  Will we be able to make an account name?


I don't think there'd be any third party to have an account with. :-)




Is it chat or just messaging?

"Secure private messaging" is what I'm calling it. I haven't been given specifics as to how messages will be represented, and neither am I sure of what you're asking. If the update is "Skype-like" it sounds like a chat UI though.

2898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
Hi all

A nice little update from the devs:


There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Can't wait!

Edit: it'll still be within the ol' QT interface. The full-on new UI is a Rev 3 thing.




Sounds interesting.  Is this chat or messaging?  Will we be able to make an account name?


I don't think there'd be any third party to have an account with. :-)


2899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:22:33 PM

Thank you Smiley I know about the Official tor stick but I thought you can do one yourself right now as well correct? there was a link somewhere in the website to Download the Torstick file and make a USB drive into a tor stick, But I don't find it right now. I just Bought three 16 GB USB drives to test it out

Don't know if it is still available. This was a alpha test for ease of use!

Also the image was bigger then "normal" (consumer) amount of GB on a 16GB stick so I think that will not work with this image. Dan said that it would be fixed for final release

Yeah that was a testnet-only thing if I remember correctly, and only shared with a few people for testing.

I wouldn't recommend using it since XC didn't have trustless mixing at that stage.

It would work, but you'd be better off using Rev 2.45.


2900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] PoS/Privacy on: July 21, 2014, 02:15:45 PM
Hi all

A nice little update from the devs:


There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Can't wait!


Edit: it'll still be within the ol' QT interface. The full-on new UI is a Rev 3 thing.
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