Thanks for posting. My recommendation is to tone down the "excitement" level of the text. Don't make it sound salesy. There shouldn't be any exclamation marks. Also, don't use terms like "IMPOSSIBLE to shut down Bitcoin." Statements like that invite controversy because they are almost certainly wrong. Fact is, there might be a way to shut it down and only time will tell if it overcomes these challenges. Simply change that sentence to something like "Bitcoin may be impossible to shut down." It's actually a stronger, more confident way to write. Understate the benefits, and remain humble. Bitcoin is good enough that it doesn't need caps and hyperbole
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New block just created, no worries the aliens returned it.
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Ok, can someone please explain me WTF IS GOING ON?
I'm getting sick of this madness, i'm seriously considering to sell all my bitcoins and call me out untill the price chart of the major exchange service doesn't look like white noise anymore.
It's called a free market and an insanely volatile, revolutionary commodity. What exactly did you expect? Chillax homie.
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The problem is that no rational person would want to keep their life savings in Bitcoin right now. It's way too volatile. If you can't go on vacation for a week without having to check MtGox every hour, people are going to convert them to USD pretty quickly.
No rational person would want to keep their life savings in any one thing, ever. Diversify! And cutting edge technology is not the place for savings of any kind. Anyone even thinking about putting savings into Bitcoin is absurdly foolish. Bitcoin is perhaps the most speculative and volatile financial instrument out there. Bitcoin, however, does not require "everything to believe in it completely and abandon their dollars." All it requires to be successful is people, at the margins, to give it a try. Dollars and BTC are not an either-or proposition.
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Of course, many miners will call it quits. Profitability MUST fall in any competitive industry over time until the rate of profit mirrors the capital costs and risks associated with continued operations. Given the fact that some people can mine without paying electric costs, I expect them to be the long-term miners.
The "amateur miner with his video game gpu" is a temporary phenomenon. If BTC prices skyrocket again, this process is drawn out further, but it must return to average profit rates of business.
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- Throughout the drop media articles will detail the drop of Bitcoin, while Bitcoin zealots like TraderTimm, Evorhees, and Atlas will continue to post about the "great opportunity to buy" as they watch their anti-establishment dream disappear along with their significant investments.
Wow I get to be included with those fine gentlemen? Shinobi, you honor me! I care little if the market price falls down to almost nothing. I know what these things are worth. I would not be suprised if the price falls to $.10, then rises to $100 only to fall back again. Bitcoin is unprecedented, and it may take a while for people to understand what they really represent. I am not so shortsighted as to be concerned with weekly, or even monthly, price fluctuations. Anyone who is concerned SHOULD NOT be involved in this at this stage. The daily price is fun to watch, maybe fun to trade sometimes, but is quite detached from those of us building things behind the scenes. And if I lose thousands of dollars? No biggie... I've spent much more on beer.
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Not sure if you have actually used the internet over the last 20 years, but usually when an idea comes along and it gets a decent following it isn't just copied, it's copied a LOT. It is inevitable that something Bitcoin inspired is going to come along.
Bitcoin is actually a pretty simple concept (although you don't appear to get it). Its value is mostly not in the implementation of the idea but the community and the infrastructure surrounding it. A new entrant can't just one day decide to unveil a shiny new decentralized currency. And what magical advantage would this new currency have that BTC does not? To my knowledge, there exists no problems with the BTC protocol itself. What flaw will this new currency fix? Bitcoin works beautifully, it just needs more services and convenience built up around it, but this is happening as we speak and a new currency would suffer the same burden.
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It's still in beta. Not to mention one need not use a personal client/wallet AT ALL to be involved in Bitcoin. There are numerous online wallets that are as easy to use as Paypal, and these services are growing constantly.
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Maybe you are correct in that it is a misuse of the term "based on", however much of the the money supply, as opposed to the money base is created via debt. As only a fraction of the the value of the loans are held in reserve, much of of the money supply exists purely by loans exceeding the reserve. In this sense, parts of the money supply is "based on debt".
Valid point, Dennis. However, when I get a bank loan to buy a house, we know the bank creates the money at that point and credits my account with it. But when I pay the owner of the house from whom I buying, he then gets the dollars. When he has them, his dollars are not "based on debt." Nobody has a claim to his dollars except him. Properly defined, I'd say the dollars are "based on" market supply and demand for funny green paper. You could say the loan itself is "based on debt," or even that the housing industry is "based on debt," or that the US Gov is "based on debt." All those things are true, but I think dollars are not based on anything but supply/demand. But we can all agree Bitcoins are not based on debt, in any sense of the term.
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I'm not a smart man, but I was under the impression that creditors never really lost money. Even if they get a bad debt they just sell it off to a collection agency, usually for way more than the original debt was worth. Kinda what causes inflation, I'd imagine.
Under the impression that creditors never really lost money? That doesn't pass the straight face test. If creditors never lost money, and only made it, then everyone would start lending and being a creditor. Of course that's silly. Creditors lose money ALL THE TIME - when they sell a debt to a collection agency, they get less than the original amount of the debt, they're merely trying to limit their losses at that point. An no, this is not where inflation comes from. Inflation comes from the Federal Reserve, as it prints money. Stated differently, inflation IS the printing of money by definition. Price increases in the market are one effect of inflation.
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Yeah Vladmir I've seen this already, and am unconvinced because the premise forgets that money circulates... ie - there can be $100m of "debt" in an economy and only $10m of dollars, yet the debt can still be paid off. A dollar which pays debt is not destroyed, and continues floating around as it's traded. And so I still think this "dollars are based on debt" concept is misleading. TREASURIES are based on debt - the holder of them relies on payment of the debt. Dollars are not based on debt - the holder doesn't rely on payment from anyone (the dollar has value in and of itself - though we know this is foolish fiat value but that's beside the point). If I own $10,000 then I have assets of precisely that much. I am not "in debt" in any way. The fact that the Gov is in debt, and may try to tax me, is a separate issue, and doesn't suggest that dollars are "based on" debt. Basically, I think it's a misnomer... it's a misuse of the term "based on." A gold-standard dollar is "based on" gold, in that you can trade it for gold at a set rate. A treasury bill is "based on" debt, because you can trade it for repayment of credit which you've extended. There are a million reasons to condemn the dollar... claiming it's "based on debt" doesn't seem to be one of them, or am I totally misguided?
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Failure to raise the debt ceiling could cause the government to default on its debt payments, something unprecedented in U.S. history.
The government IS defaulting on its payments already. It merely prints money and buy treasury debt, thereby devaluing the dollars with which it pays of its creditors. That is a de facto default by any honest accounting measure. This form is default is called "quantitative easing" so that it sounds fancy and all econ-like.
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Whoa, in which 3rd-world-country do you live?
USA, while not a 3rd world country just yet, is headed in that direction. I notice this every time I visit somewhere else. It is an antiquated and aging machine, which lost its motive power 80 years ago and has been coasting since.
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Okay I'm confused. I understand the US Federal Government is mired is massive debt. I understand how this translates into future taxes to be paid by the populace. I understand the Fed creates money out of thin air. But how is the USD "based on debt." I don't get that... I don't even know what that means? The USD isn't "based on" anything. It's just a fiat currency, created at whim and a certain amount each year. Someone please educate me
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The Federal Reserve should not be allowed to print unlimited amounts of money, but we as citizens grant them the permission to correctify highly volatile markets.
I granted that institution no such permission. But if you did, please answer for the graph shown here, on the record of the Federal Reserve:
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This whole idea that Bitcoin is here to kill the current government has got to stop. This whole idea that The Federal Reserve can centrally plan the world's economy has got to stop
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I've made this as my FB profile pic today... anyone wanna join?
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then what's your guys' target price?
No idea... trying to "name the correct price" on something so new, revolutionary, volatile, and downright crazy is a fool's errand. Or in other words, target price is between $0.10 and $10,000 per coin. SO many variables, and the timeframe for every variable is also a variable. I'm buying them because I believe in the concept, and in the market need for frictionless free-market money. I have no idea what the right price is, but I know these are wildly valuable to humanity - we'll see if humanity recognizes this =)
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Humans are just another animal and will pass "K" in our lifetime. Be ready or be eaten.
So said Malthus. There is a very important distinction - animals can't increase their "K," while humans do it in perpetuity. We MAKE our "K"... it is not a set limit.
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