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2481  Economy / Economics / Re: Average transaction amount on: September 07, 2011, 02:18:01 AM
Guys guys guys... don't let averages confuse you.  Just because btc sent / transactions = 400ish DOES NOT mean that the average transaction is that large. Easy mistake to make.

Actually, most transactions are under 100 btc, and easily a third of those are less than 10btc.  Just watch bitcoinmonitor.com to see this.

When large accounts move a boatload of coins around, it skews all those averages you're calculating. So Synaptic, how do you like them apples?! =)
2482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why a physical bitcoin? on: September 07, 2011, 02:09:49 AM
So those are pretty bad ass.

I want one now... to where do I send payment??
2483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open Video Conference & Bitcoin This Weekend in NYC- Mozilla Foundation on: September 06, 2011, 09:57:11 PM
Awesome... any change there will be video of this?
2484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I know you guys wanted this on: September 06, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
Thanks for making the calculator, but it rests on the assumption that every mined coin is sold at market price. As long as people realize that assumption is implicit in that calculation, then it's a valuable observational tool.

It needs to be understood, though, that if miners hold all the coins they mine, then exactly $0 new dollars are needed to keep the price flat, (ceteris paribus).

2485  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why BTC is losing value. on: September 06, 2011, 01:05:31 AM
There are almost too many fallacies in this thread to even begin, but let's try...

1) OP - your thesis is self-contradictory. You are claiming that bitcoin is deflationary, thus its price rises relative to goods, thus nobody spends it, thus the price is falling. Well, I must ask, if the price is falling relative to goods then it's suddenly an "inflationary" currency so people should spend it. This whole deflation argument is a fallacy - work your way through the whole process and you will discover that it fixes itself. It's the same reason you buy a new computer even though the same computer will be half the price in 8 months.

2) Bitcoin is not deflationary. It is perpetually inflationary at a decreasing rate. The fact that demand may increase so quickly as to drive up the market price is a question of demand and supply, not quantity of money. The quantity is always increasing at a decreasing rate, thus it is always inflationary until that last coin in mined, at which point it will be neither inflationary nor deflationary, but static.

3) Contrary to popular belief, spending Bitcoins does not make them more valuable or bolster their market price. In fact, the opposite is true, when you sell a Bitcoin in exchange for a good, you are expressing a preference of the latter over the former and increasing the supply of Bitcoin while decreasing the supply of goods. In other words, every time you sell a Bitcoin, whether for USD or a good or service, you are increasing the market supply of the coin and thus it's relative price will be slightly less. Consider the counter-factual: if nobody ever sold a Bitcoin for anything, it's price would rise to infinity. If your goal is to increase the BTC price, don't ever offer them in a transaction for anything.  

4) The supply and demand for coins on the market dictates their price, nothing else. The "mining difficulty" doesn't matter. It's super hard for me to mine mud from the bottom of the ocean, but I reckon the market price of such mud would be less than impressive. The value of Bitcoins is not "backed" in any way by the difficult of creating them.

5) The price of Bitcoin is greatly affected by the fact that 7200 new coins are mined each day. However, this number was the same back when we were at $30 per coin. The much larger driver of price is market psychology. When people are feeling good about Bitcoin, they buy it and when they feel concerned they sell it. Miners producing those coins will stop putting them on the market the moment they think the price is likely to go higher.

6) A good speculator knows that the mood of the market is often wrong. It is precisely when price is low, yet value is high that you should buy something.

And while the price has been falling these past months, the value of Bitcoin is much greater than it was a few months ago. It is maturing rapidly with new usefulness. Merchant solutions are finally now available. Casinos like Strike Sapphire have launched. Prediction markets like Bets of Bitcoin have launched. Massive retail offerings like BitcoinDeals are in testing. And there is much more going on than the people on the forums realize. Plus, we've now seen just how resilient Bitcoin is, surviving numerous scandals over the past few months. Even the perceived threat of new forked chains is proving totally unfounded. The Bitcoin ecosystem is being constantly bombarded with problems and inoculated against them. And STILL no significant bug or vulnerability of the Bitcoin protocol has been found.
2486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Help us Help Bitcoin Help you help ...us on: September 05, 2011, 08:46:59 PM
ssaCEO - I really like your candid posts. I like that they're not sugar-coated PR corporate crap. I like that you have an opinion, and I think your reasoning is sound. I fully share your sentiment.

As an American, I too am pissed off by Washington's tyranny (thus I've moved to New Hampshire for the Free State Project). The sad, dismal truth is that America's public has permitted itself to become ignorant and slavish, increasingly happy to surrender responsibility and power to the government in return for promises of comfort. America is a socialist nanny-state living under delusions of liberty, and feeding off the lingering wealth and hegemonic status generated almost a century prior.

America has become so inverted in virtue that one is now permitted to gamble with other peoples' money, but not with one's own.

So, good luck to you and your business operating outside the tyranny zone. I love your casino and wish I could play there... especially after hearing your impassioned postings. Let's hope Bitcoin helps move the world in the right direction.



2487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Flexcoin Payments went out today! on: September 05, 2011, 08:18:43 PM
Confirmed!  Pretty sweet!
2488  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DoS on transactions on: September 05, 2011, 05:17:22 PM
This would simply dilute the rate at which transactions are confirmed.  In fact, the only thing it would do is make the first confirmation of a transaction take (statistically) twice as long.

If someone came in with 50% of the network and started computing blocks with no transactions, then before the next retarget (difficulty change), one block would be generated every 5 minutes, with half of them containing transactions.  After the difficulty change it goes up to 10 minutes.  Now if you send a tx at this point, it will be (on average) 10 minutes until the next block is produced.  Half the time this won't contain your transaction, half the time it will.  So you could wait 1-4 blocks for your confirmation instead of one (with the higher numbers being more unlikely).

However, after that first confirmation, all blocks produced after it will count as confirmations, so you'll continue to to accumulate transactions normally after that.

On the other hand, "difficulty" is not just difficulty of producing blocks, but also difficulty of someone attacking the network.  So if this person who has 50% of the network decided to use their power to do this, instead of executing a "real" attack on the network, we should be lucky.  They're making the next person who wants to attack the network double their computing power requirements.

Although, as memvola said, the way the blockchain is structured, there's no good reason not to include tx's in the block the miner is working on.  If you have ill-intentions towards the network, there's a lot nastier stuff you could do with 50% of the computing power.  If you don't have ill-intentions, you would just include the tx's and collect your fees.


Really well said!
2489  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Can anyone recommend a "bitcoin friendly" web hosting service ? on: September 05, 2011, 05:15:18 PM
I've registered a few domains with Cinfu.com using Bitcoin. Was very happy with the ease of service. You can pay for all hosting, etc with bitcoins so I'd assume they can accommodate your needs.
2490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HOWTO create a bootable usb Bitcoin wallet in 4 easy steps on: September 05, 2011, 05:03:19 PM
Question on this...  you set it up, boot from it, create a new wallet, and now you want to send coins to it, but how do you get
coins to it if you are not online with it?  Or am I misinterpreting your statement do not browse the web with it....


A Bitcoin client/wallet doesn't need to be running or online in any way to receive funds. You can bury it in the backyard for ten years, sending BTC to it periodically, and upon retrieval it will update the block chain and discover your funds there waiting for you =)

So, you only need to be "plugged in" when sending money out.
2491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / SolidCoin removed from Ruxum... #nailincoffin on: September 05, 2011, 04:43:27 PM
Copied from Ruxum's FAQ today... what's that song about another one biting the dust? Bitcoin FTW


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Solidcoin FAQ
Last Updated: Sep 05, 2011 11:22AM UTC
Do you offer Solidcoin trading?
A. We no longer offer Solidcoin trading.

You started trading and then stopped, what happened?
A. We decided to halt Solidcoin trading due to several factors including security and decisions, actions and behaviour of the Solidcoin developers. 

I have deposited Solidcoin to my Ruxum account, can I get them back?
A. Yes, of course.  You will be able to get your coins, by withdrawing them as usual as soon as we are able to safely make the necessary updates.

When exactly will Solidcoin withdraw be available again?
A. We are waiting for the Solidcoin developer(s) to provide a usable fix(es) and for both our engineers and the community to verify their safety.  Hopefully that will be over this weekend Sept 3 and 4, 2011.  Assuming there is a valid fix provided, we will start to implement the fix on Monday Sept 5, 2011.

I made a Solidcoin deposit and it is not appearing. 
A.  They should appear once we turn on Solidcoin again.  Do not make any more Solidcoin deposits, there will be no more trading.

Will I be able to hold my Solidcoin at Ruxum?
A.  No.  Please make sure you withdraw ALL of your Solidcoin by  00:01 EST Friday September 9, 2011 (that is midnight EST Thursday)

Are any other functions at Ruxum affected?
A.  Bitcoin and Namecoin trading, deposits and withdraws are working as expected.

Where can I stay updated on this issue?
A.  We will update this page as soon as we have any update.


UPDATE - 15:02 GMT September 4, 2011 - The Solidcoin developer has just released another release that we will be reviewing and testing shortly.  Assuming everything is OK with that release Solidcoin withdraws will be available again on Sunday night / Monday morning EST
 
UPDATE - 16:46 GMT September 4, 2011 - There are reports of NEW spam transactions appearing in the Solidcoin network even with the newest version.  We don't know the extent or repercussions of this yet nor it's effect on being able to safely open the Solidcoin withdraws on our network. 

UPDATE - 00:54 GMT September 5, 2011 - According to the developer in the #solidcoin IRC channel, Solidcoin is under some sort of attack.  Opening Solidcoin withdraws is not possible until we fully understand this attack, the risks involved and if a further release of fix is needed from the Solidcoin team.

UPDATE - 03:51 GMT September 5, 2011 - Our engineers are continuing to test the latest Solidcoin fixes. 

UPDATE - 11:20 GMT September 5, 2011 - Testing is going well and if there continues to be no problems we should be able to open Solidcoin withdraws sometime within the next 12-24 hours.
2492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in France: first legal decision directly related to Bitcoin? on: September 05, 2011, 06:59:57 AM
Half joking... let's just call Bitcoin a religion! Then, not only will it not be a money and subservient to the arbitrary rules of monies, but it will in fact be tax deductible!

Maybe it's the vodka talking =)
2493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who else sold out? on: September 04, 2011, 09:03:10 PM
I sold out my dollars to buy Bitcoins. I was sick of this...

2494  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bets of Bitcoin - Bitcoin betting on real world events on: September 04, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
I really like the site... nice look, simple and elegant. I've sent a coin to start gambling!
2495  Economy / Economics / Re: Falling Price To save Bitcoin on: September 04, 2011, 05:24:09 PM
good lord  Roll Eyes
2496  Other / Politics & Society / Re: comrades, is bitcoin a great leap forward for international socialism? on: September 04, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
The latter is not a socialist, though he may still think of himself as such.

If that is the case 90+% of socialists are not socialists.

Many people reject socialism in error: If they could forget the soviet propaganda of what socialism is all about, and the covergent fearsome propaganda of the ultracapitalists which agreed with stalins convenient definitions - then most people would probably be intensely relaxed about socialism.

Socialism could mean state control of industry, or it could mean pushing worker owned cooperatives. The latter is a libertarian-socialist position, the former requires a really healthy democracy in order to be valid and safe.

State socialism can exist without democracy, but will be pretty damn evil. Democracy without socialism is dangerous polar opposite. And only animals that live on both poles are what? penguins and polar bears, walruses and stuff like that?

My only question is, does your definition of socialism permit an individual to own the product of his labor and that which is voluntarily traded to her?

If not, then how do you justify using force and coercion on peaceful people?
2497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in France: first legal decision directly related to Bitcoin? on: September 04, 2011, 03:24:21 PM
Very interesting, thanks for the post Tux. I think the phrase, "Bitcoin is a protocol" should be used ad nausem.

This whole question of whether Bitcoin is legally defined as money is a double-edged sword. If it is defined as money, then it lends legitimacy (not that it needs it). If it's not defined as money, it can remain more anonymous and more disconnected from current financial regulations.

And indeed, if Bitcoin is defined as online currency due to the fact it has market value and is traded in exchange for things, then WoW gold must also be online currency. Indeed, WoW gold even has a central issuer.
2498  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [ANN] Discrete Hydroponics for Bitcoin on: September 03, 2011, 09:03:33 PM
Stick the "Bitcoin Accepted Here" badge on that site... consumers need to start seeing that just like they do with the Paypal banners all over the place.
2499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EU to declare bitcoin as 'overlay currency' on: September 03, 2011, 06:02:29 PM
Help I'm an ignorant American... what is an "overlay currency" in the EU??
2500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ruxum - HTTP 500 - Internal server error on: September 03, 2011, 05:33:32 AM
works for me too
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