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2321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WTF! Decent unbiased press from a fairly serious site! on: October 02, 2011, 05:57:17 PM
This looks like a well written piece of journalism

"this currency’s value is based on market forces, allowing owners to trade it over the Bitcoin StackExchange"

Heh, well ... they might have skipped over some of the details.  :-)

I LOL'd at that too =)  To be fair, it DOES sound like a trading platform heheh
2322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OccupyLA on 10/1 !! We will be there in Bitcoin Attire! Financial Revolution! on: October 02, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
Let me just weigh in as an unabashed socialist if I may...
CAPITALISM IS NOT THE PROBLEM...CORRUPTION IS.
And Bitcoin is going to end corruption?  Pipe dream. 

That's why it's important to define the meaning of "corruption."  No monetary system would ever change the basic compulsions within people - to lie, cheat, steal, deceive, etc. Corruption of human character will always exist.  BUT, what doesn't need to exist, is the ability of that corruption in human character to leverage the coercive power of government toward its whims. When the government grants favors and special protections, the corruption of human character will inevitably pour into a corrupt governmental system.

The solution to "ending corruption" in this way, is to shrink the government as much as possible. To limit its power to grant favor. To restrain it from interfering with free men and women, from stealing, from war. Reduce the power of central governments, and the corruption of human character will be restrained - its harm limited to the immediate sphere surrounding corrupted individuals, instead of spread or socialized throughout the society.


Corruption is a bit vague... it's better defined as "corporatism," or the ability of government and corporations to coerce, steal, and manipulate.
Mussolini had a term for that.  Fascism.  And who better would know?  I personally feel that we (in the US) are much farther down _that_ road than a lot of people imagine, and the road ahead has been paved at this time.

Fascism and corporatism are similar in many ways... perhaps fascism is just corporatism at a further stage. There is one long gradient path from free-market capitalism toward statism/fascism. We find socialism and corporatism along that path. The way one can determine how far along the path we are, is to observe the extent to which individual property rights are respected. When you surrender half your income to the government, individual property rights have long been abandoned, and nobody should be surprised when some of that stolen money ends up in the hands of those well-connected to government.


Bitcoin appeals to me because it could be forcible taken from everyone by a simple majority (with some padding) via a software update.  This could provide the 'FEAR' necessary to keep abuse of the system to a tolerable level.  In this way, even _I_ have some reservations about the 're-distributitative' nature of Bitcoin.  The 'have-not's could rape the 'have's so fast and so hard their heads would spin, and for no particularly fair reason other than that they can.  I'm surprised that it is so popular amongst some of you folks (but maybe that is because I don't really understand anachro-capitalism as well as I should...I read a bit about it the other day.  It's kind of fascinating actually and does not seem to be exactly what I thought it was.)

Hmmm I think you may not quite be seeing it clearly. If there is a strong disagreement between Bitcoin holders, the block chains can fork, but one group cannot take the coins away from the other. So in a hypothetical world with two classes, a rich and a poor, the poor at worst could fork a chain if they all agreed to do so, and then both classes would operate their own version. It doesn't take a genius to guess which chain would be more respected and ultimately win out.


And America is very much a socialist country... that's the ironic part of these protests. They're protesting like we had capitalism to blame for this  Roll Eyes
The more that wealth and power accumulates to a small fraction of the population, the more some of you people carry on about 'socialism' and 're-distribution.'  Handy for the small fraction of people with all the poker chips.  Funny that.  We don't even have universal health care for Christ's sake!  Forgive me if I question some of you folks's powers of analysis and resistance to propaganda (but I'm not expecting that you will Wink )  While everything is something of a gradation, I'd say that Sweden is socialist while he US is more fascist.

Wealth is not poker chips.

Those who see wealth as poker chips will inevitably be led toward socialist sympathies. Those who understand that wealth is produced, not distributed, will inevitably be led toward capitalist/libertarian sympathies.

And I'm curious... what is universal health care? All treatment has cost - so to what level of cost are all people entitled, in your view? Do we all have a right to ibuprofen? Or do we have a right to yearly checkups? Or to all drugs and perscriptions? Or do we have a right to infinite health resources?   And if we have a right to a good or service, does that not mandate a slavish claim upon the life of another person? If I'm entitled to ibuprofen, who should be forcefully compelled to produce it for me?
2323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hash rate question - WTF variance? on: October 02, 2011, 05:27:45 AM
This has indeed happened before, and it will happen again. Like you, I wonder why.

We used to explain it by saying "mystery miner", kind of like "the manipulator" of today.

Oh I wasn't saying it's a new phenomenon, it happens all the time. The pic I posted is just a good example of it.
2324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OccupyLA on 10/1 !! We will be there in Bitcoin Attire! Financial Revolution! on: October 02, 2011, 01:53:34 AM

CAPITALISM IS NOT THE PROBLEM...CORRUPTION IS.


Corruption is a bit vague... it's better defined as "corporatism," or the ability of government and corporations to coerce, steal, and manipulate.

The protesters need to understand that greed isn't a problem so long as the greedy are not able to subsidize their recklessness with taxpayer money or special regulatory protection.

And America is very much a socialist country... that's the ironic part of these protests. They're protesting like we had capitalism to blame for this  Roll Eyes
2325  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OccupyLA on 10/1 !! We will be there in Bitcoin Attire! Financial Revolution! on: October 01, 2011, 08:25:54 PM

Yes, They aren't really to sure how to go about doing this.

Please don't advise them to mess with clients and block chains and all that stuff. For newbs, recommend an ewallet - like instawallet or BTCinch. With a BTCinch account you automatically make a "donate" button, edit the code or graphic, and stick on the website.

The desktop client is a Bitcoin 102 lesson, not a Bitcoin 101 lesson.
2326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Hash rate question - WTF variance? on: October 01, 2011, 08:20:45 PM



This is the familiar screenshot taken from Bitcoinwatch.com.

Why would the range oscillate within about 1.5 terahashes for a few days, then soar almost 3 terahashes in one day? That is an increase of like 35%

I would like some explanation from any smart people out there... you would think the rate would follow a much more normalized 24-hr pattern. Is it a week vs. weekend thing? wtf?
2327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So it's fair to say bitcoins are worth $5 bucks? on: October 01, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Bitcoins are worth thousands of dollars. We'll see how long it takes for people to realize this Smiley
2328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China again——it was on TV this time on: September 30, 2011, 11:05:02 PM
The meek shall inherit the Earth my friends. I am just so excited that we are getting TONS of free publicity, and that our message is spreading to every part of the planet.

It is not because Bitcoin is meek that it will inherit the Earth, but because it is strong.
2329  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: DONOR THREAD for #OccupyWallStreet Bitcoin Promotion on: September 30, 2011, 11:03:18 PM
Quick update: 1,000 cards have been printed and are en route to NYC. The plan is for them to start handing out on Monday

Donations thus far will be going to the printing and shipping expense, and then to maintaining the Bitcoin Faucet (linked from operationbitcoin.org which is QR'd on the cards). There is also an effort to do instawallet preloaded cards with sequential printing, and donation will thus be used to fund that as well.

And THANK YOU to all the generous donations!!! We'll be continuing this project into the other big cities if this protest spreads (word on the street says it is spreading indeed).
2330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: TrueCrypt doesn't accept bitcoin donations!? on: September 30, 2011, 07:43:31 PM
I'm with you. Just emailed them some Bitcoin. They may not think they're accepting it, but they've now got some!

I love that solution.

"Oh yeah, don't accept bitcoins? BAM now they're in your inbox!! Whachu gonna do!?"
2331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sudden jump in Chinese users. on: September 30, 2011, 07:15:13 PM

The only thing that's really missing atm is a decent miningpool hosted on China friendly servers either in Hong Kong, Japan or Korea or actually even here. At the moment the only pool that can be stably used from here is deepbit all the others have latency issues that seriously affect overall mining performance.


How hard is it to set up a mining pool?  I'd be happy to do site/graphic/brand design for something like that. If we have a programmer and a Chinese speaker/writer then we'd be good to go.
2332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Assistance Needed for 2012 Bitcoin Convention on: September 30, 2011, 06:59:52 PM
This sounds cool! 

OP - you should edit the post title to include "San Antonio" or "Texas" - it always helps for people associate events with places.
2333  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BofA and debit card fees on: September 30, 2011, 05:23:05 PM

More like, they don't yet realize that alternatives exist, and they're acting on false assumptions...
2334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China again——it was on TV this time on: September 30, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
What's the best exchange for someone in China to purchase BTC?
2335  Bitcoin / Project Development / Bolo Tank Game and Bitcoin on: September 29, 2011, 11:38:28 PM
Does anyone here remember the late 90's LAN/networked computer shareware tank game called Bolo?  It was AWESOME

Well, I believe it's basically open source, some people still work on it. I wonder if it would be possible to produce a version of it integrated with a Bitcoin wagering system. The idea would be you'd have to put Bitcoins in to play in a session, and the winners would win the Bitcoins as the game progressed. Take over a base, win a bitcoin from the person who owned it prior, etc.

There is a GitHub version here: http://stephank.github.com/orona/bolo.html


It could even be set up as a for-profit venture, with the site owners getting 5% of each played game or something. A tablet/ipad implementation would be badass as well.

Would something like that be easy or extremely difficult to produce? I'm not a programmer so I have no idea... but I was fantasizing about it in the shower  Grin
2336  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: CoinConnect.org - Looking to Hire Web/Game/Bitcoin Programmer on: September 29, 2011, 11:28:50 PM
I'd love to see games on your site, gambling or otherwise!
2337  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: DONOR THREAD for #OccupyWallStreet Bitcoin Promotion on: September 29, 2011, 11:25:56 PM
dont lose to much time on the design get this out on NY streets

Going to print tonight I believe
2338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trade-Btc.com Brand new Bitcoin Exchange, buy sell and send Bitcoins! on: September 29, 2011, 11:01:58 PM
Thanks for the followup. 

I'd recommend that you (operators of the site) put some bids and asks up to get the process started. You can put them up at large margins over the gox price, but at least there will be volume showing up there.

You should put up some of your own capital on both USD and BTC sides to help bootstrap liquidity.
2339  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: DONOR THREAD for #OccupyWallStreet Bitcoin Promotion on: September 29, 2011, 08:27:22 PM



On the recommendation of desklok, we've now created a mobile compatible version. This is very important obviously, since everyone there will be on their phones =) 
2340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sudden jump in Chinese users. on: September 29, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
Bigpiggy or others...

In China, what is the current best resource for a Chinese noob to Bitcoin? Are there Chinese Bitcoin pages? Is there one well-designed, informative portal for them?

I REALLY want the Chinese to pick up on this - the ability for them to work around capital controls would be in high demand I'd imagine.
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