I'm sorry but you're being used here by 1miau for his purposes. I am absolutely not in favor of the war, I have mentioned this several times. I live in Austria and I have already mentioned that I support the refugees both privately and professionally during my work. Just to give an example: I made sure that Ukrainian refugees with experience are included in our football team. But I won't go into detail about that because I value my privacy.
I already said at the beginning of the war that I would be in favor of Russia vs USA personally carrying out their conflict far away from any population that does not want anything to do with wars. Personally, I would be in favor of disarming the world, but yes..
Your lies are getting ridiculous, Unknown01! You threathened a Newbie who called out your disgusting whataboutism, when you justified Putin's war: Hello everyone, I am not a legendary member of the forum and also I am not really active here. Nevertheless, I read along regularly. Today there was an incident on the German-speaking board that I would like to clarify. There is a small group of users around the user Unknown01 who have been spreading Russian propaganda and trivializing the war in Ukraine for some time now. Lies are openly posted and war crimes are denied. I didn't want to watch this disgrace any longer and joined the discussion today. I confronted the user and asked him how he justifies some Russian war crimes of the last days and posted a few links. Of course, the user did not reply to my post, but insulted me as a fake account and threatened me that theymos will ban me soon if I continue to express my opinion (that there are war crimes of course). He also said that he already has a list for of "suspicious" accounts that refute his Russian propaganda and that he wants banned by theymos. In short: I'm told to either shut up or get banned by the admins. Here's what you wrote, Nestade and Kamix criticized your russian aggression apologia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.msg60448460#msg60448460And Unknown01 supports Poly#Crypto, a BADecker Level troll.  |
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What about ignoring each other? Sometimes it's better than spending energy fighting together.
If this majority is against @Unknown01 & co and doesn't like them, they should avoid interacting with them. Once they have nobody to talk with, they will leave the forum. If this majority isn't against them, then it means they're "liked" and it's the other party that has a problem.
Even the fact, that there's a majority against them, the spammers and abusers will derail the discussion, not matter how much people are against them. A very good comparison could be cryptohunter some years ago. Almost everyone was against him but he was so annoying, he posted his spam everywhere, insulting established accounts whenever he can. The few troll friends of Cryptohunter helped him to derail the discussion even more. There were days, when a civil discussion was impossible because cryptohunter lost his mind. Unknown01's behaviour is giving me flashbacks, when cryptohunter derailed whole threads in Meta and Reputation. Delusional and completely out of touch with reality... |
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I raised this topic after a post by 1miau, so that the community can discuss some issues bothering me. No need to have any fear, speaking from what I've seen, DT is very friendly and when you known the DT rules and community standards, everything is ok.  LoyceV's guide is a very good start. There's also an useful thread from xtraelv: Discussion about acceptable and unacceptable behavior. Community values. DT (see also his second post) In fact, DT is only acting if there's (coordinated) abuse ongoing. Abuse against DT values / DT standards. Regarding trust abuse: We had a case some years ago, when some accounts from the turkish section tried to manipulate their way into DT with friends or even alts. The accounts didn't deserve a positive trust and it was very clear that the accounts were trying to cheat their way into DT. I've lost track about all the threads but here are some: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247155.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219960The main discussion happened in the dedicated trust topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0 (I don't know which page exactly, maybe someone knows about it) There have been very long discussions about it. The abuse was very clear and some accounts were red tagged. Receiving a red tag is only for serious offenses. And the case some years ago was very serious. Today, the tools like from LoyceV are very advanced to detect trust abuse very early to avoid escalations. Often it's enough when the abusers are distrusted (added ~ to the trust list), meaning they are getting excluded. They might get a neutral tag to for pointing it out to potential trading partners. But no need to worry here for you because DT is giving people a chance to improve. Or at least I am doing this. Keep in mind that the issue some years ago was a very clear offense, where many accounts were involved and some more shady stuff. So, you are safe.
My understanding of the trust system is that it is not moderated, just as scam is not moderated and also the merit system. But the abuse of any of the above is not encouraged.
Exactly, DT is a decentralized reputation system created in the first half of the previous decade and maintained by the Bitcointalk since it was established (with some changes in 2019).
- Is a user trusted based on how long he has been in the forum?: I believe the answer is No. You can be 5yrs+ here and not trusted while a user like EZ0010 with only 5 activities would be trusted much.
Trust is mainly based on trades to evaluate whether the account in question can be trusted or not. An account that has done 100 trades with 1 BTC is more trustworthy than a shitposter with 0 trades. That's how trust was developed. Some years ago, there was a part where the feedback included a "risked amount" of BTC, to show how much BTC was involved. More BTC = more trustworthy. But that "risked amount" was removed in 2019. I found it very useful but since BTC increased so much in price, it was removed...
My fear about the trust system which is in accordance with 1miau: If a group of scammers upto 50 persons are working together and one among the 50 gets a positive trust. He can in turn trust the remaining 49 scam users and they inturn trust one another. Then, the trust system would be compromised.
Exactly, trust is to prevent scams and offer a decentralized reputation system to recognize trusted (having many successful trades) accounts. |
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Thank you everyone for your suggestions so far, I will review it, make screenshots and add good sites to my OP when I have some more time next weekend. Great compilations, didn't know that there's such a list but now we've one more list, also documented with some pictures.  I will add a separate row to my OP, where I can mention these compilations and link them. |
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What an absolute waste of internet space this is!
You‘re so right here. I don't care if I'm DT1 or DT2 or not, Sure, so adding your friends to your trust list and sending completely meaningless positive trust ratings to each other was pure coincidence? Now, shitpost apologist MinoRaiola sided with Unknown01 and gave out a positive trust to “counter” my neutral trust. Yes, he really countered a neutral trust with a positive trust on a shitposter account. He wrote (in German and he used no reference link): "He is advocating for a harmonious community in the German local board. With such an empathetic nature and commitment to other users, my trust belongs to him. Nice to have you here. In a few months Unknown01 is active in the forum for 5 years and started with a sympathetic posting "I’ve no clue, I want to learn"" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1280964 (sent feedback).  Get real!
I'm mainly in the German area and everyone there knows that I'm not a shitposter including my BM and 1miau also knows that the majority is behind me, which is why he calls most of them are shitposters too. I've already repeated my offer 3 times, that the German community should decide, but he rejects it, so it's all pointless.
Your bunch of low-quality spam trolls are not "the German board"! Luckily not! It would be horrible there! Get real! Your spammer friends are a tiny fraction of the German board and their contribution to the German board is even lower because producing good Bitcoin-related content is done by other accounts! And you are accusing the quality posters constantly, intimidatimg them and derailing the discussion. Today again, but mole0815 deleted your posts finally! Your deleted post is archived here, where you spread lies again about bullrun2020bro in our local section. There were even more lies edited by you later into this post!  You are not useful at all but a disgrace to the German section!
If I have to comment on something, other highly respected colleagues are welcome to point it out to me
Please read Lafu's translated comments on your misuse of positive trust: After reading some posts and threads recently, I unfortunately had to realize that many still have not understood "the feedback system".
Maybe some old and new users should read again the use of trust and feedback more carefully, these two things are often confused or misunderstood.
The worst thing someone can do is to give someone a positive feedback based on a negative or neutral feedback he got from another user.
Just because you don't like the feedback a user got, it is inappropriate to give positive or negative feedback to that user.
Such a thing is also known as " Counter Feedback " and not how DT is intended to use.
Of course, everyone can do what he wants and I do not want to dictate what he has to do, but it may well be that if a misbehaviour and the exploitation,
of the positive feeback for wrong or not fair things is known that more users from the DT 1 will look into this.
What can arise from this, we had years ago already times in the META area, then it rains negative feedback and the dispute escalates.
Honestly, I have no desire that we get the same here in the German area also or make.
Therefore, my appeal to all that you should be clear what feedback and trust means and how it is applied or should be.
This is my neutral opinion on the current situation and what I have read.
Hope that this may give some users an impetus to think and the trust and feedback system may be understood correctly.
I think the first thing on Bitcointalk, and also in real life, should be the willingness to learn and to improve. Is it so difficullt at least to try it somehow? |
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So, nur noch vier Tage und beim Bitcoinpreis sieht es nach zuletzt herben Kursverlusten erst einmal nach einem Seitwärtstrend aus, zumindest in den ausstehenden 4 Tagen bis zur Wertung. In der ersten Wertung (Sommer) liegen bei gleichbleibenden Preis folgende Nutzer nah dran: Der niedrigste, genannte Preis (23.000 USD von wuclx) ist sogar immer noch höher, als Bitcoin aktuell darsteht. Wie es danach weiter geht, weiß man natürlich nicht aber im Gewinnspiel wird es erst durch die Zwischenwertung überhaupt interessant. Denn bei den aktuellen Zwischenständen und den "Hypotheken" in Höhe des jeweiligen Betrags den man in der ersten Runde daneben lag, schließen sich schon einige Tipps aus. Zuerst einmal hat wuclx die besten Chancen, selbst, wenn der Preis auf ca. 50.000 USD steigen sollte, denn der nächst nähere Tipper, der auch in Runde 1 nah genug dran lag, ist Lakai01, welcher in der ersten Runde 24.000 USD tippte und in der zweiten Runde mit 35.000 USD getippt hat. Dann wird es interessant, weil dann Tipps kommen, die eng beieinander liegen. Hier hat Lakai01 in der ersten Runde solch einen hohen Vorsprung vor Buchi-88 (4.000 Punkte), dass Buchi-88 in der zweiten Runde Lakai01 nicht mehr überholen kann, da beide nur 3.000 Punkte voneinander entfernt getippt haben (35.000$ und 38.000$). Es gibt hier ein paar wirklich interessante Konstellationen, bei denen aktuell wuclx und Lakai01 durch ihre (vorraussichtlich) präzisen Tipps in Runde 1 sehr hohe Gewinnchancen haben, bis hoch auf ca. 50 - 60.000 USD (wenn ich das richtig sehe). Erst bei Preisen deutlich darüber dürften vermutlich Real-Duke oder noch höher, haloxon wieder Gewinnchancen haben. Aber ich habe da jetzt auch keine detaillierte mathematische Analyse angestellt. Waren nur meine Überlegungen anhand der Tabelle. |
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MinoRaiola For what? It is possible hardly more in detail? I have listed MinoRaiola here because of his recent support of Poly#Crypto, a BADecker / be.open level troll: 1miau thinks it's funny that I know 6 accounts (all are longer than him registered in the forum) that have him on ignore. If I know 6 accounts, how many will there be that I don't know about?
Idiots like Poly#Crypto posting such russian propaganda? ArchivedAnd there's more of it... Of course will will comment on it and call you war Kremlin trolls. That's BADecker, Tash and be.open crap. In the linked topic, MinoRaiola has defended known Kremlin Trolls from the German section like s0nix, thandie, Unknown01 and Poly#Crypto. Would be interesting to know what MinoRaiola thinks about the bullshit Kremlin Propaganda posted by Poly#Crypto... |
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@bro
But to constantly pick on Unknown01 is simply not OK. You are stirring up unnecessary fears that some German users are trying to get DT or earn a few USD too much.
But bullrun2020bro is completely right there... There's a little bunch of low-quality posters spamming the German section since a while. They don't add value, they are just here to push their own agenda. But I'm sure that a neutral moderation, where quality posts are frequently encouraged, will be the right message to deliever more quality posts in the German section again. Posting quality has gone down there for some time now, that's not a secret and it should be important to us to add more contributions. I'm not interested to get another spamboard there.
Maybe they just placed a ~DefaultTrust inside their trust list. Because almost all of the users on that list are DT1.
This situation reminds me of the Turkish board dispute sometime back. I'm sometimes having the same impression. At least it seems to be somehow an action in the process where their final goal was very clear: improving their own Trust scores with meaningless and fraudulent positive trust. |
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I'm from the German section and can confirm that the recent clown show has happened where a Newbie was indeed threatened in our local board (the topic can be seen in Reputation but it's somehow a shitshow ) Thanks for NeuroticFish for bringing it up here. In my opinion, there are 2 solutions: 1. Add it to the rules and enforce it, that such posts will be deleted. 2. Basically, what Lucius suggested: If an user threatens another user (especially a rather new account) with getting him banned... is that OK? Or, better asked, should we do anything about it? (report or anything). Is a new (unofficial) rule needed?
Since we know these are empty threats, new users need to be explained that banning is not something anyone can do, and then these bullies need to be left with neutral feedback. Anything more than that is not worth any drama and time. I agree here. Leave a neutral feedback to the offender and discourage his behaviour by addressing his misbehaviour. That should be sufficient to protect Newbies, make them feel safe and send a cleaer message to the offener. In addition we can distrust (~) the offender. Could be added as a DT Standard because without Newbies, its getting difficult and there's just no benefit, when (contributing) Newbies are scared away. That solution would be easy and without creating much trouble while still sending a clear message. |
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@1miau this is the first time I've writing to you since a long time: you are so sure that you are right, so here is my offer to you: I will put down my signature if more than 50% of the German established community (at least 10 merits in the last 3 months from 5 different people and at least senior member rank) support your view that your trust entry was justified and I'm a shitposter, but if more than 50% don't agree, then you put your signature down! Deal? It seems to be a very fair deal and like in a democracy the majority decides, you're for democracy right? I would go along with that deal, sounds fair to me. I'll put down my signature as well. If the community feels that this will promote quality and make it better, then we can do this. Let's go 1miau, it's your turn. Why not choosing neutral conditions, the conditions are known: My opinion for colleagues here:
All the people present here are my witnesses that I offered a fair deal and wanted to let the German community decide. All up from senior member rank with minimum 10 earned merits from 5 different people in the last 3 months (actually I meant the last 120 days) would have been entitled to vote, but 1miau decides independently who is a Shitposter on the German board and who is not, and it mainly depends on who represents his opinion and who represents an opposing opinion. He knows that he doesn't have a chance and therefore doesn't get involved in a democratic vote and counters again with his standard statement: All Shitposter. So let's make it clear: All members on the German board are for 1miau from the rank of senior (or higher) with <50 merits are shitposters. Does the English community really see it that way? My proposed solution was simple and, in my opinion, fair and difficult to manipulate.
Just maybe you know that 10 (earned) Merit are basically nothing. I've not said that every account under 50 earned Merit is a shitposter, it's highly dependant on activity and registration date. But for your bet it just sounds extremely shady. We can set it up with neutral conditions, with a neutral trusted user from DT1, not where you are manipulating the rules in your favour.
e.g. if I told you now go and lick XY's ass or you're a pig or not a human, interesting that that's okay. The way you're talking usually tells a lot about yourself. First post of yours in this topic you were lying, now this. This is the picture you're offering. Interesting that 5 years and 3700 posts on this forums and you didn't care about its rules. +1 This!
I'm really starting to think that you don't understand me because of my articulation? These swear words are statements by 1miau and his colleagues that were used against us and I ask you if this is actually allowed in the forum? I don't think so, but you meant that swearing is allowed.
Stop twisting my words, I said it's inhuman to support the russian invasion against Ukraine and Putin's ass lickers should go visit the bombed cities in Ukraine that they are getting an impression what's happening there. Your problem is: you don't like it to be called out for your Kremlin troll posts. That's your issue! Yes, we will keep debunking your inhuman nonsense. Don't you think it's not completely inhuman that Putin is bombing whole cities and destroys lives? You are so delusional! But what do I expect from someone who's proud to have people like Poly#Crypto on their side, a BADecker or be.open level troll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.msg60450501#msg60450501It's already archived! [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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so it's allowed to insult others in the forum, e.g. if I told you now go and lick XY's ass or you're a pig or not a human, interesting that that's okay. It might get removed (trolling), similar to spam, there are rules: The list is somewhat complete but I will still be adding rules as I encounter them. I'm open to suggestions on formatting, sources, mistakes, rules, removal from the list, etc. Forum rules 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]2. No off-topic posts. 3. No trolling. Examples:1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads. The most important thing is: people should have self-awareness and stop derailing discussions. As far as I know, you and your spam friends are always starting the clown show and then, you are acting surprised when your bullshit is debunked! Did you read the statement from Lafu? I guess no because you have me already on ignore again? That's your issue! You are not willing to learn, not willing to admit the mistakes like your trust circling, so don't act surprised when it's presented on Reputation, dude! |
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This is very important to read from Lafu because Lafu has deep understanding of how DT is working. Lafu is even rankend higher in DT than I. I've translated Lafu's statement, it was originally posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192157.msg59859488#msg59859488After reading some posts and threads recently, I unfortunately had to realize that many still have not understood "the feedback system".
Maybe some old and new users should read again the use of trust and feedback more carefully, these two things are often confused or misunderstood.
The worst thing someone can do is to give someone a positive feedback based on a negative or neutral feedback he got from another user.
Just because you don't like the feedback a user got, it is inappropriate to give positive or negative feedback to that user.
Such a thing is also known as " Counter Feedback " and not how DT is intended to use.
Of course, everyone can do what he wants and I do not want to dictate what he has to do, but it may well be that if a misbehaviour and the exploitation,
of the positive feeback for wrong or not fair things is known that more users from the DT 1 will look into this.
What can arise from this, we had years ago already times in the META area, then it rains negative feedback and the dispute escalates.
Honestly, I have no desire that we get the same here in the German area also or make.
Therefore, my appeal to all that you should be clear what feedback and trust means and how it is applied or should be.
This is my neutral opinion on the current situation and what I have read.
Hope that this may give some users an impetus to think and the trust and feedback system may be understood correctly.
I still have my popcorn, it's delicious 😂
But no need to order new one because mole0815 acted already. Hopefully, the dust will settle now, DT will judge and at least we've had a funny discussion here. |
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We've pointed out the ignore function dozens of times, but instead of using it we've had neutral trust entries and threats that the accounts that post against their opinion will be reported in the reputation thread...
That's not true, we have sent you and MinoRaiola a PM that you and your friends used positive trust and that it's not how positive trust is intended to use. You used a positive trust to counter my neutral trust and you circled meaningless positive trust with your friends. We wanted to solve it in a civil manner before addressing it in Reputation, so we sent a PM. We received insults back as an answer. Lafu added an entry in our German DT thread. No reaction from your side! DT is a decentralized network, is that so hard to understand for you? Issues will be brought up and DT decides if that's appropriate use of trust or not. We are presenting our evidence, DT is reviewing our evidence. Without derailing discussions! And the decision from DT hast to be accepted!
Quite apart from that, we‘ve been insulted every day by these trolls. I don't know how many months 1miau has now been ignored by me and yet he still quotes me daily(!).
Your trust list is not my issue! So you want to forbid that I reply to people where I'm on the ignore list? I'm free to read all posts, I'm free to reply to all posts! |
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My opinion for colleagues here:
All the people present here are my witnesses that I offered a fair deal and wanted to let the German community decide. All up from senior member rank with minimum 10 earned merits from 5 different people in the last 3 months (actually I meant the last 120 days) would have been entitled to vote, but 1miau decides independently who is a Shitposter on the German board and who is not, and it mainly depends on who represents his opinion and who represents an opposing opinion. He knows that he doesn't have a chance and therefore doesn't get involved in a democratic vote and counters again with his standard statement: All Shitposter. So let's make it clear: All members on the German board are for 1miau from the rank of senior (or higher) with <50 merits are shitposters. Does the English community really see it that way? My proposed solution was simple and, in my opinion, fair and difficult to manipulate.
Just maybe you know that 10 (earned) Merit are basically nothing. I've not said that every account under 50 earned Merit is a shitposter, it's highly dependant on activity and registration date. But for your bet it just sounds extremely shady. We can set it up with neutral conditions, with a neutral trusted user from DT1, not where you are manipulating the rules in your favour. Regarding your lies: you can repeat them 100 times, doesn't make them more true. You can repeat your insults and defamations 100 times, doesn't make them more true. Your disgusting behaviour and constant derailing of discussions with your lies is the problem, not us, calling it out You were also called out by qwk in the German section, the most established German member You were also called out by bullrun2020bro in the German section, another very constructive poster and insulted him with your lies! Now, you are insulting Nestade, me and Newbies, what's next? You are a disgrace for the German board! Get your shit together and stop acting like a child!
I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular! So in your opinion, an inactive account can appear out of nowhere with a newbie status and call other accounts swear words, tell them to move to Russia to eat Putin's ass and then make the worst accusations at the moderator? YOU are the reason for this accusation by saying you were in a group with mole0815 and claiming you were speaking on his behalf. Facts aren't something for Unknown01, he's living in his own fairy tale where a "harmonious community" is, where breaking forum rules is allowed, misusing positive trust is allowed, insulting Newbies is tolerated, derailing discussions is a standard and spreading lies is totally normal. It's so sad that these people like Unknown01 are not self-reflecting at all that their behaviour is causing huge damages to the forum. Yes, they are not only contributing nothing, they are also damaging Bitcointalk actively.
There is more to those accounts, especially when I see the way they exchange positive ratings. It looks like someone is trying so hard to farm or manipulate the trust system using their alts.
Maybe they just placed a ~DefaultTrust inside their trust list. Because almost all of the users on that list are DT1. Not sure but it would be something to investigate. At least for @thandie I can say, that it's a highly customized trust list and the most interesting part on his trust list are his inclusions of active trolls from local sections such like ~wolwoo ~vispilio ~be.open  https://loyce.club/trust/2022-04-23_Sat_05.05h/334684.html
And if it goes on like this I ask theymos to close the German off-topic area completely.
That would be very sad but it's your decision. We all know who the contributors are and who's just here to post nonsense every time, who's always starting the shitshow. Quite a lot of members have contributed a lot to our local board like qwk, bullrun2020bro or Lafu etc, just to mention a few, Everyone can check the account and look up created topics. Discussions have been very productive until suddenly, some troll accounts woke out of nothing. We have clear rules on the forum and trolling is against the rules, off-topic is against the rules. Creating new threads about already discussed topics, just to get more views is against the rules. All of it is rule 1. I have been in contact with Lafu, he's still sometimes acive on the German section. We are all not amused with Unknown01's and his friends behaviour. I haven't ever seen low-quality posters being so aggressive (and I've seen a lot). Normally, we would expect a "plz, Sir, don't damage my account, it's important for earn". But Unknown01 is completely delusional. I'm sure, you have found a good solution because closing the German board completely would be very sad. 
I do have my admiration for those who have the patience to counter and report the ones who fill the forum with garbage. We do need this kind of people too.
Same here, some reporters are doing a very important job and dedicating ther time to clean the forum from spam. Some have several 10k reports. I'm doing my best to clean up the German board and also some violating posts in the international part when I come over them but I'm still at 1k reports. Big kudos to all reporters here! Because when violating posts are getting deleted frequently, the producers will (hopefully) stop posting similar posts. |
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And this is where it gets interesting in terms of moderation of the German language board. Why is the user Unknown01 bragging about having to discuss my punishment with the German board moderator mole0815 and the other colleagues in a private telegram group? Here is the screenshot of a post Unknown01 wrote today.  It basically says: "@Mole: Sorry for off topic, but we can discuss it personally in our group with the other colleagues."Nice catch, looks like Unknown01 is trying to influence the German moderator mole0815 in a private Telegram group, since both are from Austria. That's shady as shit from Unknown01 but wouldn't surprise me. He's going full long con here. Unknown01 has caused trouble since a very long time and his biggest issue is his inability to admit his mistakes like Shitposting and Trust farming. I'm sorry that he threatened you and I can assure you that's not how the German community (and Bitcointalk) is in general. Most members are very helpful, very friendly and welcoming. Unknown01 and Poly#Crypto are not the German community and especially not Bitcointalk as a whole. You are very welcome here and we appreciate your comments in the German section, where you always provide valuable insights so far. Please don't get discouraged by a few trolls, it's always taking some time to weed out the bad eggs.
Haha… okaay i‘m agressive and 1miau pretty much excludes 90% of the community from Sr. Member rank in my offer. so in the German board there are only maybe 10-15 persons who are not shitposters this is sad for us.. As I told you, my conditions are fair and most will agree that 10 merits from 5 people and Sr. member rank will be sufficient to qualify.
That your shitposter friends can get in? Sure, that's how you would like it. Maybe let's ask the altcoin spammers about their opinion of the Merit system and if it should be removed! So, nice try, but no, only quality posters are qualified!
I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular!
There are quite a few people completely fed up with your bullshit and your abuse... And Kamix is active since 2020. @Unknown01, your most recent excessive bullshit campaign started in Fall 2021... But keep attacking newbies, it seems to be your agenda to scare good posters away, that you can create your shitposts without any backlash... |
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Ach so. Weil ich Nazis in der Ukraine anspreche, bin ich Kremltroll.
Weil ich eure Relativierung und Verharmlosung anspreche, bin ich Kremltroll.
Whataboutism! Ekelhaft.
Du bist komplett lost! Aber interessant zu sehen, wie die Masken fallen. Fühlt sich toll an, Blut an den Händen zu haben, wenn du Putin's Krieg verharmlost? Welch ekliges, menschenverachtendes Dreckspack! Vermutlich sind eure Accounts schon schön beschädigt von der Show in DT. Aber macht nur weiter, da geht noch was. Ihr könnt immernoch clean kommen aber gerade mit dir sehe ich da wenig Chancen. Du reißt bloß unbeteiligte Accounts mit in die Tiefe! Die Schonzeit ist jetzt vorbei!
Warum nimmst du keine Stellung dazu?
Warum versuchst du zu relativieren und zu verharmlosen?
Warum lenkst du ab?
Warum jetzt plötzlich Whataboutism ala 1miau?
@1miau
Ich fordere dich auf, hierzu Stellung zu nehmen!
Natürlich nehme ich klar zu Stellung! Wer immer noch nicht erkannt hat, dass das Problem an der aktuellen Situation der Einmarsch Putin's Truppen in die Ukraine ist, dem ist leider nicht mehr zu helfen! Wie kann man den Angreifer nur so dermaßen in Schutz nehmen? Was meinst du, mit deinen Kriegsverharmlosungen zu erreichen? Warum sollte man die Ukrainer unter den Bus werfen, wie du es hier unverhohlen vorschlägst? Warum sollte man die Ukrainer einer russischen Invasion schutzlos ausliefern, wenn man doch weiß, was Putin in der Ukraine für verbrechen begeht, was er mit (dem Rest) von eroberten Städten anstellt und Warum hetzt du so vehement gegen Frieden und Selbstbestimmung der ukrainischen Bevölkerung? Aber du liest meine Beiträge ja garnicht Oder raffst sie nicht! |
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There's a very interesting post from Kamix, that I would like to share here. Seems to be that Unknown01, MinoRaiola, Poly#Crypto thandie, s0nix are involved in extremely fraudulent practices to convert the German section into a sigspam / troll post zone.  I didn't think my post would make such waves. But this thread perhaps shows all too well how the German-speaking board is doing. First of all, I would like to thank you for all the responses and respond to a few points: - I am obviously not a fake account, regardless of what Unknown01 and his friends claim in order to damage my reputation. It feels a bit like I've hit a sore spot and he doesn't know how to help himself other than to attack with such false accusations. I am glad that I will probably not be banned for my opinion and therefore I would like to continue expressing it.
Spam should de reported and removed at sight.
I've seen the threatening of newbies. Afaik it's not in the forum rules, it may be punishable offense. But we need mods' input in this. Cyrus is mod in Reputation, maybe he can help?
Trolling is punishable offense. But trolling may be a bit vague. Still, it's best we can do.
I think for the German-speaking board the moderator mole0815 is responsible, but here could be the real problem. If we go back to the facts, the following things stand out to me: - We have the user Unknown01 who threatens other users and cheats his way to positive feedbacks using the DT function of the forum and his friends - We have old accounts that suddenly wake up and try to improve their DT position in the forum via trust farming. These accounts only post in certain boards and posting Russian propaganda - The accounts seem to possibly belong together, as they all post similar views and back each other up (trusts, positive feedbacks) - The users seem to know each other in real life and almost all of them are from Austria (you can read that in a thread where they plan to have a meeting together in Austria). The moderator mole0815 is also from Austria. - All accounts seem to be in a common telegram group and coordinate their steps with each other there, including the board moderator mole0815. And this is where it gets interesting in terms of moderation of the German language board. Why is the user Unknown01 bragging about having to discuss my punishment with the German board moderator mole0815 and the other colleagues in a private telegram group? Here is the screenshot of a post Unknown01 wrote today. It basically says: "@Mole: Sorry for off topic, but we can discuss it personally in our group with the other colleagues."What is interesting is that this post was edited after a few minutes (cutting the part with the private discussion with the moderator mole0515) and even deleted a short time later. Why was it edited and deleted? Clearing up any evidence? Who deleted it? Unknown01 or the moderator mole0815? If I understand correctly, the moderator of the German language board is in a Telegram group with his friends. Of course, this is not a problem in itself. But a moderator is supposed to ensure a neutral and fair moderation, isn't he? Now it is no wonder that Unknown01 is so aggressive towards other accounts when he knows that he has no danger to fear from his friend and moderator mole0815. Furthermore, Unknown01 has already posted here in the thread several times that the moderator mole0815 will speak up here in the thread and fully support him. It all seems very strange to me. What has happened to the Bitcointalk forum when moderation is no longer fair and neutral and aggressive users who abuse the trust system can suppress other accounts through moderation. It can not be that aggressive users who abuse the trust system and threaten other users with a ban also receive support from the official moderator of the forum? Are there other moderators besides mole0815 who are responsible for the German-speaking board? Or can he rule all by himself? If there are not, that's pretty fucked up. |
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@1miau: I'm just responding to the topic with my offer because I don't have time at the moment: I'll open a thread on the German board and we'll let it run for 1-2 months, everyone who is entitled can then cast their vote there and we'll count the votes after the runtime. The loser will not participate in any campaign for at least 6 months or until the other agrees. If you agree I'll get to work tomorrow or tuesday, there are no insults, no discussions there is only voting and no one is going to try to change the opionion of others with any claims, I think most of our community have heard everything?
We can then agree on the exact agreements/contract details afterwards, but the trust is not part of this (it's just that I'm a shitposter in your opinion and Mino is definitely not).
Should be posted it here or in Meta, easy as that. And a neutral, trusted user will set it up. Make 50 Merit earned threshold, last 120 days to weed out shitposters and alt accounts.  Merit count up to today, last 120 days. You know about the tools. And the bet is: removing signature forever. Your fraudulent positive Trust is out of the bet (but should be removed anyways as it's dangerous and inappropriate use of positive). Are you in? |
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LOL Wo kommst du denn jetzt plötzlich und ganz zufällig her? Hat irgendjemand in den "Gewinnspielen" seine Passwörter wiedergefunden und meint: na dann troll ich mal bischen, schicke diesmal aber den angeblichen Newbie vor? Aber gut. Du willst etwas wissen zu Nazis, zu Hakenkreuzen, über Runen wissen? Dir fehlt es an Wissen? Hier wird dir geholfen:  NATO-Asow-Hakenkreuz eng vereint! Ah, jetzt kommt der ganze andere Kremltrollmüll! Findest du es nicht widerlich, das hier im Forum abzuladen? Aber kann ja jeder sehen, wo du stehst. Das ist BADecker Niveau!! Irgendwie habe ich befürchtet, dass du irgendwann diesen schäbigen Kremltrollmüll herauskramst, hast du ja jetzt bestätigt. Da startet Putin eine brutale Invasion und du kommst mit diesen Relativierungen? Eine Schande ist das! Bitter, dass du das selbst nicht merkst. "Poly#Crypto nutzt Bitcointalk als Plattform für seine perfide Agenda! Passt perfekt! |
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