You might be surprised, for some reason 5850s sell almost as well as 5870s (despite being a fairly inferior card both for mining and gaming). However you *are* flooding the market by dropping 40 at a time, but if you're in no hurry to sell it might be fine.

Always a good suggestion:

1) Pictures of cards, to show they haven't been sitting inside of a dust ball for years, to show which version of the card they are (reference, custom shroud?), and to prove they're real.
2) Shipping item will includes boxes, cables, adapters, or card only?

GLWS.

EDIT: Maybe you can negotiate with this fellow -- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141918.0

I will take uncovered photos later tonight, or early tomorrow, just got home, long day, and the case is a particularly well crafted one, meaning it's actually a bit of work to open. Not sure what you mean by talk-time, actually talking on the phone? Less than an hour. Using the internet and whatnot, maybe a dozen or less. The previous owners use is unknown sorry.

EDIT: Pics
https://i.imgur.com/5feZ2DS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qNQkxCx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pBvXIbr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0ynzwBv.jpg

Apologies for the blurry side shots, its hard to balance a phone camera and phone and not move at all (old camera was kinda sucky).
Damn case off for like 5 minutes and screen smudgy as a momugga

I looked extensively into all this phone nonsense when I was looking to buy (because there was a lot of confusion) and here's the deal:

"Apple Unlocked" iPhone 5s are only unlocked on GSM networks, AT&T, T-Mobile, Simple Talk, etc. Will not work on Sprint, Verizon, MetroPCS or any CDMA carrier (although there are rumors that you can pester them enough to accept a foreign ESN on to their network, or Flash the phone but lose LTE access).
The main draw to this phone would be if you would want to use the Verizon network. Typically Verizon phones go for slightly more as it is the network with the best 4G LTE coverage in the US currently.



Verizon/Sprint/CDMA iPhone 5 phones can be unlocked (and are typically, the latest software update from Verizon unlocks phones by default afaik) for any GSM network as well as their particular CDMA network (but not cross CDMA due to the frequencies they are designed for). Hence a Verizon phone can be used on a GSM network, but not a Sprint network. Take a look at the phones being peddled as "Global Phones" (because the rest of the world uses GSM).

As to "Similar item", I've looked at Gazelle before, their products in "Good condition" come with potentially scratched screen, dings, who knows what (no pictures provided), and does not come with anything, no battery, usb cable, box, etc. Not to mention 16gb and 32gb are apples to oranges comparison. Definitely a good bargain basement buy, but not particularly relevant as a link.

Big thanks to you morb for keeping the thread updated. You're a good man.

I'm sad that at this rate it looks like my bitcoin experience shall never restart. Shame too what with coins at 20buckaroo-bonzais.

I am a long-time member of the forums, but I have not done a forum trade (good rep, but no trade rep). I have an ebay account in good standing, a heatware account with a few sales, and an account on overclock.net with multiple positive trade reviews (nothing but positive on all). So I feel I am somewhat trustworthy. I would be willing to do escrow with a trusted member, or else I would have to receive coin before shipping, unless you can prove that you are very very trustworthy (tons of rep).

The Price: $675US equivalent of bitcoins (can do average value on day of sale) or best offer.

Phone is Slate Black 32GB version, Verizon network (or AT&T / TMobile, whatever GSM network), clean ESN and all. For those who like to mention these things, the phone retails for about $800+ new (http://www.dynamism.com/top-phones/apple_iphone_5/pricing.shtml), so that is > 15% off. The Phone was bought second hand, so it has some small dings on the sides  of the casing (my phones are in pristine condition when I get them new), minor and superficial only, all buttons are flawless, the screen is flawless. Comes with the retail box, the little manuals I believe, and the USB charger, and I can throw in a cheap-o wall charger connector as well that I picked up on my own. No headphones. Will throw in the Otterbox case as well. As you can see with the case on (or any case you prefer) any imperfection is completely invisible.

Pics of phone:
https://i.imgur.com/7DzVVyH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9h3oDVd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PocDaYU.jpg

If you would like any other information feel free to ask, you can make offers, but try to limit "omg ur retarded to try to sell @ that price lolz" to maybe the first 2 people only.

Thanks!

I'm just gonna say it.

OMG ANOTHER DELAY? AMD IS A SCAM

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Renting an asic is a fairly risky proposition. Currently the network hashrate is *low* compared to the hashrate an ASIC can provide. This will not always be true, and in all likelihood will not be true for very long even. The coin generated by an asic will therefore drastically diminish over the coming weeks/months. If you are to rent during the most profitable period, you will need to charge a fairly exorbitant amount, or you are basically cutting your own pocket and spilling coins.

Mining rental contracts tend to be inherently unfair, either to the renter or rentee, based upon the contract specifications. I personally wouldn't recommend it between friends.

I appreciate feedback, though I do not need nothing but thread-crapping. I get the point from the folks who posted above, and the answer is yes. I am not here to justify the price, only to gauge interest. If there is no interest, I will decide whether I want to deal with Ebay instead of the bitcoin community, or simply try to deal with the iPhone 5.

I do not need any further discussion regarding the price, if you are not interested, then you do not need to participate in the thread. Thank you.

I'm not putting up the phone for sale *just yet*. Right now I am canvassing interest first. I am potentially going to switch from iPhone 5 to Samsung Galaxy S3, but would need to see if there would be interest in purchasing my iPhone first.

So here's the deal: I am a long-time member of the forums, but I have not done a forum trade (good rep, but no trade rep). I have an ebay account in good standing, a heatware account with a few sales, and an account on overclock.net with only positive trade reviews. So I feel I am somewhat trustworthy. I would be willing to do escrow with a trusted member, or else I would have to receive coin before payment, unless you can prove that you are very very trustworthy (tons of rep).

The Price: $675US equivalent of bitcoins (can do average value on day of sale) or best offer, but I'm likely to want to go up rather than down, but depends on interest.

Phone is Slate Black 32GB version, Verizon network (or AT&T / TMobile, whatever GSM network), clean ESN and all. The Phone was bought second hand, so it has some dings on the sides (my phones are in pristine condition), minor and superficial only, all buttons are flawless, the screen is flawless. This is not a sale yet so I don't want to put up pics, pics will of course be provided when / if this moves to a real sale. Comes with the retail box, the little manuals I believe, and the USB charger, and I can throw in a cheap-o wall charger connector as well that I picked up on my own. No headphones.

If you would like any other information feel free to ask, other than that please let me know either in thread or in PM as to potential interest (neither of us will be committing to anything at this time), and how serious your interest would be (casual hmm maybe or put it up and I'll buy it right now kinda stuff).

Thanks!

Or if anyone does...

I think MineForeman is the first noob (relatively new to the forum, not anything else ) that I've ever liked. Kudos to you for coming in and being a team player.

I got shafted when I picked up a used RPi, and got the old 256MB beta board, but maybe that'll be an interesting data point. I'll test your iso soon, though I'm not currently able to hook any FPGAs up.

Dude please read what he has been telling you, he was pretty clear.

Your PSU offers 12V power to your GPU. Internally your GPU transforms the voltage and feeds it to various components that would likely explode at 12V or some such.

PSUs offer 3 voltages depending on the line, 12V, 5V and 3.3V, that's it. 5970s require PCI-E connectors, which are 12V (or in your case Molex to PCI-E, which is still 12V). If your card were using 75A of 12V power, it would melt, and your Mobo would melt, basically your computer would be dead.

Again, look at your GPU-Z, look at VDDC, and VDDC Current, they should say something like 1.0V, 75A. As the first response said, Watts = Volts x Amps; or 75A * 1.0V = 75W. I suggest you buy a kill-a-watts meter if this is still bothering you, to confirm you don't have some freak GPU pulling 900W.

Also maybe google the terms, amperage, voltage, and watts, to get a clearer sense of how they relate.

I was thinking something like http://www.iodatacenters.com/
But the secret sauce is always in the location, so who knows. It's part of why I don't want to have to get my own industrial power hookup.

If he is seriously anticipating being able to serve upwards of $1Mil USD worth of ASIC customers, back of the envelope calculations put that @ 750A, something absolutely no storage facility would ever come close to providing (typically they are wired for enough power for some lightbulbs and cameras). Even starting small with 1/10th of that I don't believe would be possible at most conventional storage facilities.

I edited that out, but it still stands to reason regardless.

Shocking that it took an official post to be the first to make the obvious point that that was photoshopped. Puerto did everything possible to make it painstaking clear that it was fake. 1/4th of the total batch.

In other notes, as my first time checking in on the boards, wewt, congrats Avalon, glad to see a company finally deliver. Can't wait to see the results when people get their orders. I was growing a little weary of all the BS.

Indeed.

I've never used the ignore button on this forum, for anyone, as I have an ignore button in my head, and occasionally even the worst people say something interesting, but this person is really making me reconsider. Weren't they banned at one point? What happened to that?

CA, at > 10% of the US population, has residential prices that meet or exceed europe as well. It's all well and good that some have reasonable power rates, but not all do. With that said however...


-From MegaBigPower.com

Is it that your costs are ~3¢/kWh (diff than kW/h I remind), and the difference will make up the cost of hosting for the consumer? Or is this just a difference between expectations that aren't reflected in an update?

I for one would happily drop the requirements of maintenance, noise, heat, and effort to avoid CA power costs, however:

1) Require specifics on costs to business owner, to know where the pass-throughs are to consumer.
2) Require specifics on costs to consumer (levied by business)
3) Some form of legally binding document needs at least drafting, to ensure harsh penalties on those who might ponder absconding with expensive machinery.

Those I feel are the bare necessities for anyone who wishes to offer housing of equipment for mining. Some might feel that is too onerous and busiens should be run more on a smile and a handshake, but I can't imagine leaving tens of thousands of dollars with a perfect stranger thousands of miles away from me under those conditions, and if it were cash I can't imagine anyone on these forums considering it for even a second.

I never said no greed and/or belief, I said less. Clearly we need some, but pirate, ponzis, failed exchanges, glbse, numerous individual scams and at least one failed asic group point to the fact that the community needs to wise up quite a lot. Greed is/was necessary for the initiation of bitcoin, but how will it survive if all it is ever known for is scamming/stealing/drugs/gambling? If bitcoin were a town, I'd avoid it like the plague.

A few points, you didn't buy a jalapeno, you bought a promise of a jalapeno. Mild but important difference.

As to whether it will be worth it to run, it of course depends on your definition of "worth it", btc price and elec price, but it will profitable into difficulty 300x give or take.