We have no idea how this market will level off after a bubble burst like this.
Sure we do: trepidatious fervor
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A drop in price is outstanding if it means people stop mass purchasing of graphics cards so we can see a drop in difficulty. Unfortunately I fear the rest of you crazies are just as stubborn as I am and will keep mining even when the exchange rate can't pay for the electricity. I guess we can at least hope for a bit of leveling off in the hash speed growth rate. Oh I'm committed now. My brain is already creating defense mechanisms and rationalizations to justify my expenditures!!!
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If bitcoin survives a bubble like this and survives, there must be something backing it, even if its only the stubborness of its users.
I think this is true to a certain extent. It's currency if the PEOPLE believe its currency. If bitcoin takes a huge hit and doesn't get destroyed it will be stronger. Correct. And I think the same thing can be said about the Euro right now.
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I'm very glad I bought my rigs rather than take the advice to simply buy coins. At least now I have the option of hanging onto them for as long as I wish.
It's amazing all the crystal balls that are coming out eh? Corrections are always painful and bring out more speculation than the initial speculative fervor!!!
You know, when the price goes up from time to time now, it's just the guys who have already invested and are trying to save their investment by buying more and creating some green spots on the chart. They're gonna lose more that way... So go cry into your pillow. You're becoming trollish.
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looks like more of a correction
I'm very glad I bought my rigs rather than take the advice to simply buy coins. At least now I have the option of hanging onto them for as long as I wish. It's amazing all the crystal balls that are coming out eh? Corrections are always painful and bring out more speculation than the initial speculative fervor!!!
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I personally hope it. Bitcoins should be used for commerce and not for speculation.
That's just plain silly. Any medium of exchange will be speculated upon. Simple economics. Otherwise it wouldn't be a medium of exchange!!!
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Over 20% of all existing bitcoins exchanged hands in the past 24 hrs!
Total BTC 6,506,200 BTC
Bitcoins sent last 24h 1,395,579.13 BTC
Not likely... you could find out if that is true looking at the blockchain, but I imagine far less then 20% changed hands multiple times as people thought they were buying up at the bottom out. There is good money to be made here as some people fall to fear, and the price drops farther then it should. If only I had some money available to buy in now! Farther than it should? What's the floor on this? Where should it be? It'll take awhile before the price actually stabilizes and finds a trading range.
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You just have to make sure you have enough rails to power each card, that's all I'd be worried about, unfortunately I purchased a PSU with only two 6+2(8pin) pin power connectors and I can only fit two cards, now i gotta go out and buy another one.
I ran into that as well. So I ended up with another PSU that was just laying around, ergo I was forced to buy the necessary gear to fulfill its existence lol
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Check the address on block explorer.
Has your client downloaded the latest blocks?
What he said, http://blockexplorer.com/Make sure your firewall is set to allow connections. It takes awhile sometimes. Is 26+ hours an acceptable time? Waiting on my first payment (5+) BTC. Not too concerned but not entirely UNconcerned....
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Anyone else still waiting on payments from slush from yesterday? I had a payout about 26 hours ago and it still has not showed up.
edit: I discovered all the blocks weren't downloaded. Downloaded them and pmt showed up immediately.
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release of 1% causes a 110% price drop....
The majority of them will be bought and held. Gresham's law. Aka, nowhere to spend them yet!!
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i just had to register after reading this idiotic post...i can't believe op is saying trickle down economics works. are you stupid?
Rassah, you have caused this lurker to crack his shell!!! Idiotic is harsh isn't it? In a world where idea leads to idea?
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all I got from this is that your buddy needs to ditch his GF regardless because she's just into him because of the $...
gotcha...
+1 LOL!!!
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Fair enough, you have more finesse and patience than I do Perhaps it would be best if governments went away completely. Time will tell. In the meantime, I would like to escape from it. When I first started reading the forums, there was broad support for freedom from monetary theft. Since then, there has been a surge in forum posts supportive of making bitcoin work with government and their tax systems. I wish those who want to do this would fork the block chain and make tax-compatible-bitcoin, rather than changing bitcoin to be something different. Not that it really matters. If it gets bad enough, I'll have to either fork the chain myself, or join someone else's bandwagon, but it is vexing. I think eventually governments do go away. Either that or manking destroys itself.... I think initially people must have really bought into the dream and then reality set in. You can't just go from an existing system to something new and radical. Things have to "break" first. Wouldn't we all love our freedom from gov't and not fear our neighbor?
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3% fee as far as I know but I'm pretty sure that is already paid as soon as you get the coins so you will get paid out the full 15BTC. Don't quote me on that last point though.
You're correct sir, fees are deducted as soon as your deepbit account is credited with the previous block's earnings, so what you see for your balance is post-fees. I have mine set to 1BTC instant payout, and I get exactly 1.00 BTC transferred to my wallet. cent How long on average has it been taking to see it in your wallet? 30 seconds, if that. Of course, it shows up unconfirmed and took a while to get confirmations and my balance to reflect the deposit. But the transaction itself should show up almost immediately. I'm going on 24 hrs to get a payment from slush..... Received one before that took nowhere near as long. let's not be hasty here, there are variables that affect this, "usually" around 30 seconds, but sometimes it'll take longer...
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but really whether it's through inflation or taxation, the current monetary system enables theft. And as far as I understand it, that's what bitcoin was designed to stop.
I don't think it's possible to legitimize bitcoin in the eyes of governments whose operation rests on constantly inflating the money supply. And I'm unconvinced that the people who worry about paying taxes will see bitcoin as legitimate when government is publicly decrying it.
We agree here but we must take one step at a time. The suggestions you are alluding to take decades to unfold. Look how long it's taken for BTC to come around. What's our beginning reference point? Writings in Mesopotamia? 5 thousand years ago? I see BTC (and all things digital really) as an evolution in mankind's progress path. It cannot be rushed. The destruction of governments right now would be terrible for the mass of sheeple out there regardless of your own enlightenment. Sometimes it's hard to have a grounded perspective when you've been flying through the clouds.
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3% fee as far as I know but I'm pretty sure that is already paid as soon as you get the coins so you will get paid out the full 15BTC. Don't quote me on that last point though.
You're correct sir, fees are deducted as soon as your deepbit account is credited with the previous block's earnings, so what you see for your balance is post-fees. I have mine set to 1BTC instant payout, and I get exactly 1.00 BTC transferred to my wallet. cent How long on average has it been taking to see it in your wallet?
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a company can hire employees, use their self-selected Bitcoin addresses to pay them, and report those addresses to the government.
This is the worst idea I've read in the past three days. The point of bitcoin is to get AWAY from this crap. If you get your jollies off reporting your employee's income to the USG, use $. Are you sure you're not misguided? My understanding is that the idea of BTC was to decentralize the monetary powers, not destroy government. Reporting employees income to ensure taxes are paid for the benefit of society would legitimize BTC. From Wiki under "Why?" : Be safe from instability caused by fractional reserve banking and central banks. The limited inflation of the Bitcoin system's money supply is distributed evenly (by CPU power) throughout the network, not monopolized by banks.
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both excellent points.
and even if hoarders just cash out to buy a house and a ferrari, it's peanuts next to the wealth created by finally having a currency that doesn't inflate. they richly deserve whatever rewards they get. even if bitcoin fails I wont regard early adopters as scam artists. they invested their time and money at great risk to try and get a new system off the ground.
Right. The amount of money we're talking about is nothing compared to the $1.4 QUADRILLION derivatives market!!! Investing too much energy into investigating and routing out bitcoin users could be anti-productive. Besides, it could take valuable resources away from law enforcement from searching for "terrorists" and bigfoot.
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