no, wouldnt work,
i shouldn't have said verify, but identify instead, my bad, sorry.

he needs to be on the network with his nick and identified to nickserv,
he can't do that, because he simply isn't on the network at all, only gribble is.

edit: assuming he's using i2p, not TOR, i'm not sure if you can login to freenode somehow through TOR, i couldn't get it to work when i tried.
If he can and does connect through TOR, all these i2p-problems don't occur

don't worry, i got that completely separate systems part,
but completely separate systems dont make things better, it makes things worse.

and you still havent mentioned how you gonna keep me from creating fake IDs, which is not a problem at all,
it's not that hard to create a few thousand fake IDs to claim the free-newbie-cash, how do you stop that?
or do you just not care?

that won't help much, he would need to verify his freenode-registered nick, before he can gpg-auth with gribble,
but he can not verify his freenode-registered nick, because freenode doesn't even know he's online, while he's connected through gribble,
freenode would just think he IS gribble.
and gribble has to see him on channel, too.

it could be a workaround, if gribble not only routes i2p-users, but also auth's them on i2p, instead of freenode,
but there'd still be a problem.
most, if not all trades on otc are made in private (you don't want to yell your account-numbers to everyone around),
but afaik you can't PM anyone, if you'r connected through gribble.

so, to use your transaction system, i first have to use some other completely unrelated security system, which makes it even more complicated.

however, what makes you think that your security system can't be cheated?
i can create a bunch of passport IDs without much effort, what makes you stop me?

besides that, weren't you complaining about anonymity being exception not the norm?
so you obviously want anonymity, but now you want everyones passport IDs, or some other proof-of-identity, that kinda doesn't match.

are you serious?
think about what cash is.
cash is not even a currency, it's just one way of transfering a currency, which can be also done bitcoin-backed.
print some bitcoin-QRcodes on paper-bucks and use that as cash,
if you give those paper-bucks to me, transfer is instant and doesn't need any internet-connection, nor confirmations.

and how do you keep any identity from linking a hundred IDs then and claim 1000 coins 100times?
if it's not linked to my identity, why not just create a few more identities? i am lots!

i'm well aware of that and i don't think that miners processing blocks without any transactions at all are any better.
it might take just a _very_ small fee, but even a _very_ small fee is a fee
and how small it is highly depends on the amount you send and the balance you might (or might not) have left after your transaction.


i just said that i hope (nah, actually i don't) that all miners using luke's pool don't send ANY free transactions themselves,
because they don't process ANY free transactions themselves, they let other miners do that un-profitable work.

so, advertising luke's pool as the one that has no fees is just wrong,
it has no fees for it's miners, but forces fees to anyone else.

i don't mind if that block-generators prefer fee-containing transactions, that's alright,
i don't mind if they don't include free transactions if the block is filled already with fee-containing transactions, that's alright,
i just can't see any reason to not include any free transactions at all.

well, it depends on how quick you wanna react on market-moves.

keep them on mtgox
pro -> you're able to sell as soon as the price moves/reaches your target
con -> you need to trust, you don't have control about the wallet, MT might run away, mtgox be hacked, hi-jacked, or whatever.

keep them local
pro -> no need to trust anyone, you have full control about the wallet (better make some backups)
con -> to sell (on mtgox) you have to wait an hour or 2 for you transaction to confirm, price might have dropped by then.

so it all depends on the timeframe between now and some later point.

well, the 'abuse' in Bit_Happy's example is,
that they do it without telling the end-user about it (where end-user is the person posting the link, not the one clicking it, if i got that right).

it's not actually an abuse of the ad-services, which provide those scripts for ethical use.

anyway,
i think it's a cool idea, even though it's not new
and services like that will pop up sooner or later anyway,
so do it!

you're right as far as you say link hi-jacking is highly unethical,
what i don't get is, why it makes adf.ly (or similar) a bad service.

it's those forum-admins/-operators who act unethical, not the ad-services they abuse.
adf.ly, or linkbucks, to name anotherone don't hi-jack anything, they don't hide what they have to offer
and they don't force you to use them, nor to show full-page ads to clickers before showing any content, you could also decide to use framed ads, but you'll earn less (even less than you get anyway ).

it allows low fees for miners, that's true,
but the fact that it doesn't allow ANY free transactions isn't that nice.
it forces every bitcoin-user, may it be a miner or not, to pay transaction-fees.
do you ever send free transactions?
i hope you don't.

no, you dont have to send more (if you send more, it'll show up on your balance to withdraw),
you just need to wait and be a lucky receiver of random 0.5btc,
or refer some new members to get some money back from your downline.

maybe you should read the post above yours,
the site is not down, its domain changed.

turn co.cc into bitlex.org and you should be good.

well, it sure is, but as long as MT doesnt pay what nice guy asks for, there won't be any profit,
and i doubt he ever will pay.

what kind of profit would you expect from such an attack? where should it come from?

not for me, try https://mtgox.com

i am using mutliminer-1.4 with phoenix for a few days now,
worked pretty good, actually i get less stale shares on deepbit than connecting miners seperately (0.6% with MM vs 1.2% without).

in the last 2 days though all miners stopped working with an empty-queue-msg at some point and didnt start again 'til i restart multiminer.
noticed the first stop a bit late, so the miners didn't do anything for ~7hours, second time i gladly noticed it after ~1hour.
i've no idea why it happens, but it's kinda sucky.

that'll probably take decades, if it ever happens at all.


we can be happy if they choose to accept bitcoins, but why would anyone choose not to accept other currencies?

better get some 5870/5850 if you can't get the 5970/6990,
they are not only cheaper than the GTX,
they also need less power AND are three times as fast.

Ok, let's say you have bitcoins OR dollars,
how would you decide to keep bitcoins and better dump dollars then?

you could also keep your dollars and better NOT get that new computer today, you will get that same computer much cheaper next year,
but that's not what you do, because you want/need that computer now and not in a year.

point is, you can only hoard money, if you don't need to spend it.

there are some alternative blockchains already for different purposes,
some used as game-currencies (i heard of MartianBotCoins, whatever that is), some as domain-currencies (namecoin), some as test-currencies,
feel free to create anotherone. 

i only get an xml-parsing error when trying to access /admin/

guess it's just a blank line hiding somewhere, but i can't find it.

well, right now they treat bitcoins like real money and they don't allow conversion from USD to EUR/GBP/CHF either (and never will),
you can try to convince them that bitcoins aren't that real and actually more virtual tokens than L$,
not sure if you'd be successful though.

VirWox is not exactly cheap,
75SLL+3.5% is for Market Orders only, which are more expensive than trading at current bids/asks anyway,
for Limit Orders you pay 0.8 - 3.9% (*2) based on your amount of SLL commission paid in the previous 30 days.