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3121  Other / Off-topic / Re: What video games do you play? on: September 23, 2013, 02:17:19 AM
The game was first released for DEC's PDP-1 computer at MIT in 1960. The Spacewar page at Wheels.org has some nice descriptions and anecdotes: "The first CRT display was a converted oscilloscope used to play SpaceWar.The first trackball (and thus, the first mouse) was a SpaceWar control at MIT. It is said that Ken Thompson salvaged a PDP-1 and created a new operating system, now called UNIX, so that he could play SpaceWar. The gameplay was inspired by E. E. "Doc" Smith's Lensman novels. Two players go head-to-head, each controlling a ship in interstellar combat, trying to blow the bejeezus out of each other. There is a sun in the center of the playing field that exerts an inverse-r-squared force on all objects on the screen. A talented player can aim torpedos such that their trajectory is deflected by the sun's gravitational force until it intersects with the other player's ship."
3122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are you spreading the word about bitcoins? on: September 22, 2013, 10:57:44 PM
Donate to a worthy cause:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295211.msg3211321#msg3211321
3123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: September 22, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Just to throw a vote out there, i much prefer this thread without the charbuddy updates. It keeps people from being notified all the time and feeling like they should say something evne when there's no real developments. We don't need hourly notifications for subscribers to this thread. 

I would also like to throw a vote out there: stop using colored text.
If you look at it through rose colored glasses, it disappears.
3124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 22, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
I just wants laws to remove guns, to remove explosives, and to remove nuclear weapons. So that people can exercise their right of free speech/gestures safely. Don't you want that? Are you against free speech?

The laws you want are backed by guns, explosives, and nukes.
...and i don't dispute that.

But they are not pointed at me, as they would be in a NAP based society.
I thought that the principle was essentially that the first to draw a weapon, loses.  

Why, in NAP, is the first to draw a weapon, the loser? Can you demonstrate, through a description of a process, taking into account as many realistic factors as possible, why that is the common outcome. Please factor in witnesses, or lack of, money and affluence, possible histories of persons involved, and so on. Please explain how NAP better resolves this than traditional systems.

As I mentioned, I am no expert on NAP.  Bitcoiner Ryan Charles writes about it though.
http://ryanxcharles.com/archive/properties-of-non-aggression/ states that "If you believe in the non-aggression principle, you believe it is immoral to start fights with people, but not (necessarily) to defend yourself from someone who is attacking you." (From this I paraphrased, "first to draw a weapon, loses.")

From reading it, it seems that our current legal framework aspires to be philosophically following the NAP, and has only failed from over-reaching: "although aggression can sometimes be rational, it can never be moral".  Likely you will find much better explanations than I can offer, but from what positions you've carved out, it doesn't appear that this NAP philosophy is your foe, only that you don't adhere to it because it limits the means (using guns to remove guns) to your desired end (less guns).  So even if your position is rational, it is also immoral.
3125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 22, 2013, 08:20:05 PM
I just wants laws to remove guns, to remove explosives, and to remove nuclear weapons. So that people can exercise their right of free speech/gestures safely. Don't you want that? Are you against free speech?

The laws you want are backed by guns, explosives, and nukes.
...and i don't dispute that.

But they are not pointed at me, as they would be in a NAP based society.

I don't know much about NAP, how would guns be pointed at you? 
I thought that the principle was essentially that the first to draw a weapon, loses. 
Help me understand how I am wrong about this?  As a younger man I'd have argued your side of this, so I could easily be mistaken.
You mentioned the "innocent mistake" followed by other "innocent mistakes", but that seems like a thin justification for the expense of this broadly expanded government authority.
3126  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Holograms on physical bitcoins on: September 22, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
Buy them directly, in that case you dont have to worry someone wrote the code down..
This is good if you are going to remove the sticker and use the bitcoins, but if you want a freely circulating piece...  or just want to resell a more reliably untampered piece without its value diminishing as soon as it "leaves the lot" due to trust issues...
In any case, implementing the new solutions will be a good thing.
3127  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Holograms on physical bitcoins on: September 22, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
I'm fairly new to bitcoin and am interested in physical bitcoins.  There are a number of options, but all of the ones I've seen rely on hologram stickers for security.  I think Mike Caldwell is Casascius has documented that he is reliable.  However, once a coin leaves his hands, I am nervous that any Casascius coin I purchase on ebay or through some other vender might be tainted.  Does anyone else share these concerns?  I think some day bitcoins will be worth thousands of dollars each.  There is no doubt that as they become more valuable, that a heightened risk of security will be a concern.  It seems to me that a hologram sticker is pretty weak security.

There are some innovations to improve on previous designs.  It was pretty good then, but is going to be better.
Keep in mind the value of a bitcoin was much lower when they were first made and the security was then very adequate to what it was protecting.

There are other options if you don't like the sticker for other reasons (or if you want a more durable piece for circulating) and would enjoy a Bitcoin Specie piece without bitcoins embedded, check the cold hard cash link below for ours.

But if you are looking for a physical coin wallet in which to store bitcoin out of circulation, you want Casascius.  There is another maker coming out soonish as well, which is currently in design.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289668.0
I think the Casascius coin was a good idea when bitcoins were cheaper.  Mike Caldwell has said that one of the reasons for the coins was proof of concept.  I think now that bitcoin is increasing in value and [I believe] is on its way to being worth hundreds I'd dollars per coin, I'm hesitant to trust the integrity of a sticker.  How hard could it be to counterfeit a hologram?  I really don't know.  I think that even now there is plenty of motivation for a crook to buy casascius coins, steal the private key, and place a counterfeit hologram on it and resell.

We have devised effective countermeasures against the exploits demonstrated.  The innovations have been shared with Mike, and we look forward to future demonstrations and attempts.  Good security improves in response to tests.

And... there are also the Specie pieces.  No stickers there.  They are made to circulate, but there are some collectible editions too.
3128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 22, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
http://thefire.org/cases/freespeech/
3129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 22, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
I just wants laws to remove guns, to remove explosives, and to remove nuclear weapons. So that people can exercise their right of free speech/gestures safely. Don't you want that? Are you against free speech?

The laws you want are backed by guns, explosives, and nukes.
Furthermore, the history of free speech in totalitarian states is somewhat less than perfect.  
Some have even quipped that the well-armed society... is a polite society.

Would not your ideal state be that one in which they are allowed but the people choose not to have them, and people are civil to each other not because they have to be?

If so, why be so uncivil and draw your gun-laws on the innocent law-abiding folks who choose to protect themselves in a dangerous world?  Not everyone's daughter/wife/mother is a martial artist who can fend off those who may jealously covet their beauty or treasure.

We all here cherish life, have the best result in mind and seek the same end, some just seek it without this desire to violate the ability of the weak to defend themselves.  Intelligent people may disagree on this ends-justifying-the-means process, but wanting more law does not necessarily make you a free-speech advocate.  There are already laws against threatening someone (assault).  So your speech is not impaired by your fear of safety from your fellow citizens so much as it may be by the many laws against free speech.

If you have been on a US University lately, you may have some knowledge of the "free-speech" zones.  These institution of broader enlightenment have reduced free-speech to only be allowed in constrained places and times.  http://thefire.org/cases/freespeech/  These gun-free zones have some of the least free speech in the United States, and they reasonably ought to be the opposite, places where ideas can be debated in more freedom than elsewhere.
3130  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Silver and Copper NORFED (Liberty Dollar) Rounds on: September 22, 2013, 07:27:03 PM
Great, if you are a collector rather than a user of the currency, I have some New Liberty Dollar triple-struck proofs to trade.
We have taken in quite a few original Liberty Dollars in trade from nervous hands under the impression that they might get confiscated.  Some would rather have our more easily legally defensible currency.  The New Liberty Dollars seem to be easier to sell on eBay and such, no restrictions, and I enjoy even the worn original Liberty Dollar pieces which have circulated, for my own purposes.  As a maker, I like to see how they hold up over time.

If you are looking for even more exotic alternate currency items, I have a few of the nearly-impossible-to-get pieces.

Ron Goodger who runs this site, is one of our better customers:
https://sites.google.com/site/libertydollarencyclopedia/
3131  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Will i get tax/bank troubles by wiring money to bitcoin exchanges? on: September 22, 2013, 07:16:02 PM
But i'm a small fish i don't know if they would care... And for the small profit (maybe like 2 or 3k) i'll be raking in it probably won't be worth it to hire a tax advisor...

For 2-3K income net of costs, you could easily have costs higher than that and the individual enterprise may even provide some tax benefit against your other income.  Some local advice might be worthwhile anyway, and if nothing else it gives a successful bitcoiner something to talk about in a good way.  Depending on how open minded they are, it may end up benefiting them more than you in the long run.

I had the opportunity to raise the issue with my external accounting folks again last month.  Planting seeds in fertile minds may bear unexpected fruits.
3132  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Will i get tax/bank troubles by wiring money to bitcoin exchanges? on: September 22, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
Some ideas...for an audit, in Belgium, for Arbitrage... Capital gains are normally treated as ordinary business income and are taxable at the normal corporation tax rates (33%). However, there are exceptions and exemptions.
•    under certain conditions, "rollover relief" is granted for gains on fixed assets held for business purposes for more than five years
•    unrealised gains are exempt provided they are credited to a specific non-distributable reserve
•    realised capital gains on shares are exempt fromtaxif dividends on the shares
qualify for the participation exemption. As a result of the new Belgian budget measures, a realised capital gain will be taxed at a rate of 25.75 % if shares are sold before a minimum holding period of one year is reached.

Capital losses are tax-deductible if they relate to fixed assets used for business purposes.
Unrealised capital losses on shares (booked devaluations) are not tax-deductible.
Realised capital losses on shares are generally not deductible. Capital losses realised on the liquidation of a company are deductible up to the value of the capital actually paid-up.

So you may do well with an individual enterprise, and be able to deduct your costs from the gains.

If you keep your profits in bitcoin and the enterprise is arbitrage, you may be able to claim those as STOCK INVENTORY.

Stock inventories should be valued at the lower of acquisition cost or year-end market value. The acceptable methods of determining acquisition cost are actual cost, FIFO, LIFO and weighted average. The Revenue administration requires that the method chosen is justified and applied consistently.

If they are going into cold storage, acquisition cost by actual cost may benefit you, especially as the actual coins retained are idenifiable.  BUT... realized or unrealized profit may be taxable.  You don't necessarily avoid the tax by not converting them.

Someone well versed in Belgian law may easily improve on these ideas.

Definitely... track your costs.
There is more here (in a pdf)
http://www.pkf.com/media/1954296/belgium%20pkf%20tax%20guide%202013.pdf
Which comes from these folks:
http://www.pkf.com/publications/tax-guides/belgium-pkf-tax-guide
3133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Mega Thread that Feeds People in Need (1M72Sfpbz1BPpXFHz9m3CdqATR44Jvaydd) on: September 22, 2013, 05:12:55 PM
Fasted voluntarily for a day, and saved enough to feed 10 doing so less voluntarily.
You have my gratitude for doing the hard but deeply rewarding work of putting it to good use.
Thank you for helping hungry Floridians who may also be our unbanked future bitcoiners.
10: https://blockchain.info/tx/204a1ce56885d60c8b61ba45bf81275352aa28e09dc481cd0b6852b62f2fdf3a
3134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: On a panel with MasterCard and Visa on: September 22, 2013, 03:42:24 PM
Congratulations on opening some banker minds even without the benefit of a crowbar.
Very well done.  Thank you.
3135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin melting: how hide transactions from network analysis on: September 22, 2013, 03:37:15 PM
Intent or timing accident...who is to say?
3136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple speaking at "Money 2020" conference in Las Vegas. on: September 22, 2013, 03:29:43 PM

Anticipation...

The confluence of a legal background, a long working life as a technologist, an an even longer fascination with the numismatic has me chomping at the bit for this.
3137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Holograms on physical bitcoins on: September 22, 2013, 02:33:26 PM
I'm fairly new to bitcoin and am interested in physical bitcoins.  There are a number of options, but all of the ones I've seen rely on hologram stickers for security.  I think Mike Caldwell is Casascius has documented that he is reliable.  However, once a coin leaves his hands, I am nervous that any Casascius coin I purchase on ebay or through some other vender might be tainted.  Does anyone else share these concerns?  I think some day bitcoins will be worth thousands of dollars each.  There is no doubt that as they become more valuable, that a heightened risk of security will be a concern.  It seems to me that a hologram sticker is pretty weak security.

There are some innovations to improve on previous designs.  It was pretty good then, but is going to be better.
Keep in mind the value of a bitcoin was much lower when they were first made and the security was then very adequate to what it was protecting.

There are other options if you don't like the sticker for other reasons (or if you want a more durable piece for circulating) and would enjoy a Bitcoin Specie piece without bitcoins embedded, check the cold hard cash link below for ours.

But if you are looking for a physical coin wallet in which to store bitcoin out of circulation, you want Casascius.  There is another maker coming out soonish as well, which is currently in design.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289668.0
3138  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [PREORDER] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: September 22, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
Increasingly awesome.  This is going to make life easier in many ways.
3139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some rap I write for Bitcoin on: September 22, 2013, 02:07:58 PM
wow..comments are tough Embarrassed

Yu huh! Why dont we just all let this upcoming rapper have his moment of shining!

I'm no rapper
Just a cracker
But it be the rapper way,
When you throw down
Its a show down
An yo don't frown
As da playahs play...

When da O-Ps
Meet da O-Gs
An get schooling on who's ruling we just fooling
Like a clown cause we down,
We all ho-mies
Our KaChing, is the thing
Cause our bling is Bee....Tea....Cees
3140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: September 22, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
So a lynch mob, then? Or an elected authority, i.e. a government?

Which?

Depends on the infraction. The authority wouldn't be elected, it would be purchased by the participants.

We've been all through that, and how it's a failure. You just stated that you buy those who will judge you and the opposite party. My authority is bigger, better and more expensive that yours.

Way to go.

Why would either bigger or more expensive be better?

Lacking imagination, are you? I understand. When you're starry eyed about something, you you don't want to think too hard about the negatives.

The question was an honest one.  I merely did not understand why you think the more ornate governmental dispute resolution is better just because it is more expensive and bigger.  There may be some good reasons why it may be better, but these do not appear to be such.  

If you don't know why you wrote it, you can just say so.  The wise ought not leave it up to others to imagine their reasons.  (If you leave it to the imagination of others, they may inaccurately imagine invidious motives your reasons.  Speculation could lead one to imagine it is because you are one of the ones being paid more to have the bigger authority, or are yourself on the government's payroll.)

For example, Henry David Thoreau cited at least this reason for the opposite opinion to yours:
"That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves."
You have more opportunity to fill in your missing reason with your advantage of still being alive, he can't argue back.
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