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2361  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you really believe in bitcoin as a currency? on: December 03, 2013, 11:38:32 PM
And in the long term, I think that both mining and running a full node needs to be easy and provide no-one any reason to not do it.

Build the water heater / miner.
Then you can get one in every home that needs hot water.

Or the heat trace cable asic miner, so that institutions can freeze protect their plumbing assets while also protecting their bitcoin assets.  No, really, I'm not joking here.

That's hot.
I love it.
Waste heat isn't,
unless you waste it.
2362  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Expo London Sat Nov 30th UK on: December 03, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
Change them.  You can get married another day  Shocked

heard about it in Los Angeles so am headed over.  Should be good times.

Hey, you coming from LA to London?

Yes.... I did...  Back in LA now.
Was treated to some very good times with the gentlemen of HardBTC.
2363  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you really believe in bitcoin as a currency? on: December 03, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
And in the long term, I think that both mining and running a full node needs to be easy and provide no-one any reason to not do it.

Build the water heater / miner.
Then you can get one in every home that needs hot water.
2364  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: New Mystery about Satoshi on: December 03, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
nonce in this case is different from lottery in that it can increment to cover the entire range (from 0 until overflow) so it's 100% sure to be able to find a match. It's like you buy every possible number in lottery. Say if the answer is distributed equally within 0 ~ 255, if you intentionally restrict your coverage within 0 ~ 58, then in (255-58)/255 = 77% of the time you can never find the answer.
No. That is completely wrong and confused. You are not 100% sure to find a match. Unless the hash function is broken, every attempt is unrelated— there could be 5 matches in a row, or a whole nonce range which doesn't match. When it fails, it just increments the extranonce or timestamp and carries on. At the current difficulty the probability of any value being a match is around one in seven hundred million. Puncturing the nonce space does not reduce your probability of success in the slightest.

Unless you also hash for the nonces in between but discard the results.. which is of course stupid.
Under the assumption that profit is the motive
2365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: December 03, 2013, 10:14:28 PM

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought that discussing the idea that there ought to be some centralized tool by which an outside party could control the BTC holdings of individuals and the value of the BTC market were frowned upon by this community. I must be mistaken. Please, do go on and tell me why the guy who has publicly said that it'd be an OK idea to negate the value of any BTC I may have some day, simply because 'they', those in control of that tool, claim that that BTC has been somewhere they didn't like is worthy of my praise and respect. Because I'm SURE that such a tool could and would NEVER be used in a manner that would benefit those controlling it, right? Fire away, I'm all ears.

Apology accepted.  Discussing ideas about Bitcoin development, even bad ones, is not wrong.
Even if you and I agree that this sort of antifungibility development ought be left for others to do (oh yes, it is entirely possible and will likely be done with or without us).

The fundamental bitcoin protocol is not perfectly fungible.  The bitcoins are trackable and tracable through addresses, this is part of what makes them useful and non-duplicatable.  If you want perfect fungibility, you are left with specie.

An outside entity needs nothing more than the already public and unencrypted blockchain, and the ability to determine ownership of IP address space to begin this effort.  I imagine it is ALREADY BEING DONE.  There are forensic analysis toolsets that do much of this already.
and this:
http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-surveillance-nsa-tech/2013/08/04/id/518590

When you add to that the tor relays and exit nodes operated by TPTB, and the back doors all over the place, there is not really any requirement to make this any easier even if Mike wanted to do so.
2366  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC-e wire transfer from US bank on: December 03, 2013, 09:57:14 PM
Wouldn't it just be easier to use a US based entity like Coinbase or CampBX?

Coinbase cancels transactions if the trade goes against them, and CampBX is under DDOS most of the time.  Lots of strange things like needing to log in twice (what happened the first time?)
CoinMKT seems to work, but not so many trades, I wonder if they were more popular would they be DDOS'd too?
2367  Economy / Economics / Re: Monthly average USD/bitcoin price & trend on: December 03, 2013, 08:01:30 PM
This progression happens in every starting endeavor. 
It begins with nothing, and progresses.
Why the hyperbole?
Bitcoin is in beta, (I remind myself of this every time I re-balance my meager portfolio to keep no asset above 5%.)
It is still the early days, though Bitcoin is getting a bit overextended with all the current attention.
Its all good though, just yet another test which makes us stronger in an antifragile way.
2368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: December 03, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Why would anyone in their right mind who isn't interested in seeing someone or some group have the ability to essentially steal whatever BTC they want from anyone they want want to see a tool created that would allow exactly that to happen?

Mike Hearn is either a very devious prick or attempting to win the most useful idiot award for helping TPTB attempt to control and/or kill BTC. I really don't care which of the two is true, either way the very fact that he's suggesting ideas such as this clearly prove he can not be trusted.

Why not take him for what he says at the outset of this?
1) that his questions were misinterpreted as a statement or a goal, and
2) that he is content to observe the discussion to get a sense temperature of the users

Until there is some code written, its all just talk anyhow.  Questions such as this are worth raising even of only to dismiss them, as the process develops the reasons for the decision making.  Its a useful process in open source.  No need to tar him for raising the question.

Anything non-global or which is for other than all individual's benefit doesn't belong in the protocol.  So long as there are exchanges that trade for fiat, and people selling there, TPTB can control and or kill it anyhow.

2369  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: December 03, 2013, 07:38:42 PM
Quote
Bitcoin EU Conference, Amsterdam
I guess that was the most awesome one Roll Eyes

Definitely Smiley  unforgettable.


The historians may note that it was...
Also the official launch of the Bitcoin Specie into the marketplace.
Coinciding with the 15th anniversary of the launch of the Liberty Dollar.



2370  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: December 03, 2013, 07:32:31 PM

Nice coin!

Are you going to be at the Vegas conference on December 10th and 11th?

Yes.  I'm just back from the London Bitcoin Expo,  Vegas in December, and then likely just SoCal meets until Miami in January.  I'll miss India, and Singapore this year.  Something to look forward to for later.

I gather some great criticisms from people who attend conferences, as well as gauge the measure of support for the project.  As it stands, it looks like we will keep funding it for the foreseeable future.

This has been my schedule for gatherings since the project inception at the Bitcoin Foundation gathering in San Jose this Spring:



Bitcoin china
September 2014
http://bitcoinexpo2014.com/
 
Bitcoinvention Asia, Manilla Phillipenes
Feb 12-14 2014
 
North American Bitcoin Conference Miami Beach -
January 25 & 26, 2014
http://btcmiami.com/
 
BANGALORE, INDIA. Global Bitcoin Conference
December 14th, 15th, 2013
Sheraton Hotel, 26/1 Dr. Rajkumar Road, Malleswaram-Rajajinagar, Bangalore


Inside Bitcoin Los Vegas Nevada MGM Grand
Dec 10-11
http://www.mediabistro.com/insidebitcoins/

London Bitcoin Expo
Nov 30 London

Bitcoin Silicon Valley, California November
Tuesday 11/26/2013
 
Liberty on the Rocks
Nov 21/2013
Torrance California
 
Hollywood Bitcoin Meetup

Bitcoin EU Conference, Amsterdam
http://Http://theconference.eu
 
Libertopia, San Dieo California
200 attendees,
 
OHM2013, Netherlands, speaker
3000 attendees

Santa Monica Bitcoin Meetups

Los Angeles Bitcoin Meetups

Bitcoin Foundation's BitcoinConference2013, San Jose California
Over 1000 attendees,
2371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: December 03, 2013, 06:54:18 PM
I think you are mistaken that religions worship a different god.  

Different religions each claim this.  He is not mistaken in relaying their claims.
http://www.religionfacts.com/big_religion_chart.htm

Your assertion seems to be that the religions are wrong about what they believe and instead that you know what they believe better than they do?
don't try to assign meaning to what dank says, you can't. dank is the one and only enlightened god, and we are too. its all love. just love.

When surrounded by circular reasoning, is it irrational to point out a tangent diametrically opposed to assist foci?
Wink
2372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer Scientists Prove God Exists on: December 03, 2013, 03:53:37 PM
I think you are mistaken that religions worship a different god. 

Different religions each claim this.  He is not mistaken in relaying their claims.
http://www.religionfacts.com/big_religion_chart.htm

Your assertion seems to be that the religions are wrong about what they believe and instead that you know what they believe better than they do?
2373  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hidden miner on: December 03, 2013, 03:49:19 PM
Hello all!
Someone knows is it possible to make a miner when started not visible on the taskbar for example. Or not to be visible at all i saw one post there the guy said that he has such miner which is not visible and starts with the boot of windows.. Thank you


Not showing in the task bar is a standard windows property easily added:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749579.aspx
2374  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: December 03, 2013, 03:29:58 PM
Is this the first appearance of the Bitcoin specie in a mainstream media video (in Italian)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF79IAZw5cg
2375  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Bitcoin Expo London Sat Nov 30th UK on: November 29, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
Change them.  You can get married another day  Shocked

heard about it in Los Angeles so am headed over.  Should be good times.
2376  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: November 29, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
Haven't visited ""GOODS"" in a long while .............  I like what your doing here, interesting qr code concept too, Well done NewLiberty!   Grin

MJB, you have something very special on its way across the ocean to you.
You will have to let me know when you get it.  Wink

Thanks Joseph I'm totally blown away, what an amazing gift couldn't believe my eyes when I opened the package,  I'm no photographer but thought it deserved a picture or two. Thanks again mick






You are a better photographer than you give yourself credit.  Shooting coins is challenging.
2377  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: November 29, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
I've been asked how many of these are out there...so:

Mintages so far:

FIRST STRIKE - 40 final
Satoshi Nakamoto whitepaper 5th anniversary - 100 final
First year of issue numbered, gold electroplated - 100 final
First year of issue unnumbered, gold electroplated - 1 final
Satoshi Nakamoto whitepaper, gold electroplated - 1 final

Silver Bitcoin Specie 1 toz Cold Hard Cash, standard issue 1804 3004

Updated mintages to current...

silicon valley meet up was a blast.  There is strong interest in the gold 1oz, which has been delayed as we are hard at work on a project for the litecoin foundation which has priority.

More specie types are in the works though.  If the growth rate continues it may become self sustaining in 2014.

Anyone distributing these is paid by the pricing model as the more you get the better price you receive, so it is an easy bitcoin business for anyone to do.
2378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 29, 2013, 09:26:13 AM
Looks like China is still setting the tone for this valuation. Kinda funny actually.
Fiat restriction creates demand.
How to get wealth out of China except bitcoin?
2379  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: announcement: the international "when-bitcoin-reaches 1000,- $ party" on: November 28, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
seriously, we need a countdown-ticker as soon as the 24h average crosses 1000
how can i implement something like this in op ?
Not at all at the moment:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343912

hm... guess it needs to be done manually...

any volunteers ? qwk ? .... Grin Grin Grin Grin

+1
good idea, someone told me he got loads of time.... Roll Eyes

Its only an issue if the price goes down.
Give the job to Kuzco (one of my alpaca), he can handle it.
2380  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: November 27, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
The premium calculation seems to be working nicely now.

Time for the 2014....   1 ozt silver....  TEN MILLIBITS?
That is a factor of 25 from 2013.
2013 was quite a year.
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