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3161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terms and condition a must read before signing up any online gambling site on: June 28, 2021, 07:59:13 AM
I agree.

But at some point, even though you missed or disregard reading their terms and conditions, some of gambling sites will pop up some notification that you can't deposit yet unless you're already passed the KYC requirements, if I'm not mistaken.

Some of them also likes surprises, you'll never know their KYC unless you have a big amount of profits in your account and they will suddenly requires it just for you, like they will require a lot of personal informations for you to pass their KYC but in the end, they still won't let you withdraw it, which is infuriating.
3162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it on: June 28, 2021, 05:08:13 AM
For me, the reason why they do it is because they have a lot of confidence and strong resolve, if they can do it once, why not do it twice, thrice, and again and again until they will be caught. With the money they have by scamming their players, they could start another gambling site business using another name and people to run the same method again on scamming people who will deposit and play on their new gambling site.

I guess, that's all about it. People loves easy money as well as scammers. It's all about being carefully aware and risk taker.
3163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [LIST] Gambling sites with internal exchange on: June 26, 2021, 11:42:14 AM
Very nice list of trusted gambling sites that runs for a very long period of time already and still kicking. This will be a great help to those newbies in gambling to avoid being scammed by depositing first a certain amount to be able to withdraw their winnings. It's very convenient for them to have their own exchange for fastest transactions and also it is another way for them to increase their bankroll.

Looking forward for OP to add more trusted gambling sites that's already making its name these days.
3164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will governments ban Bitcoin like they did with Gold? on: June 25, 2021, 02:17:55 PM
Many people have been talking about a full government ban towards Bitcoin. Some said that Bitcoin could be banned the same way Gold was banned a couple of years ago. This is to prevent people from using Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies on top of Fiat. After all, governments want to control people's money. Something that's decentralized and outside the reach of the government, should be banned from the face of the Earth (according to governments' mindset).

What do you think? Will governments (especially the US government) ban Bitcoin like they did with Gold? Or is it too late to do something about it? Will Bitcoin survive if all governments unanimously agree to ban its usage worldwide? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Smiley

I think it's nearly impossible for the government to totally ban bitcoin. Bitcoin has already came so far. It has many user all over the globe. Many have been patronizing it since the day it was established. Even the big personalities are investing in bitcoin. That's how powerful it is at the present. I also don't think that government would ban it anytime in the future because they are also harvesting the benefits such as additional income taxes that is good for the economy. And if ever they will opt to ban bitcoin in their country, surely their people will keep on finding ways on how to access their account despite the strict regulations and policies imposed.

You see, the truth is, government can't control or manipulate cryptocurrencies growth. The more they keep on suppressing it, the more it will expand. No matter how hard they try to keep it away from being used by their citizens, it will be no use.
3165  Economy / Economics / Re: When everybody tell you take take risk with money on: June 25, 2021, 01:32:16 PM
every decision taken means that the person has agreed to accept the risk. do you think he's just playing with money? unless he is a rich man can spend money on any bet when gambling. what they seek is not mere profit, but the satisfaction they should get from their own hard work. Gambling will indeed spend money when all of it is used up without thinking about the needs of the house.
every step will determine where the money is saved, and every money you waste is already a risk.

In every decision we make, it always possess a risk. Risking your money to start a new venture really involves a lot of courage. There's always a 50/50 probability that it will become successful or the other way around. What you need to do is to plan ahead, strategize, and execute well what you have in mind. That way, you will minimize the chances of failing. Prevention is better than cure like what they say. You need to start strong to achieve what you want in life. You can't be lousy and expect wonderful results later on.

In business, investing, and trading, you have to be determined, confident, and knowledgeable to succeed. You can't just get money somewhere down the streets. However, you must also know your limitations in risking. Risk what you can afford to lose and based on your risk appetite.
3166  Economy / Economics / Re: How Bitcoin Improves Financial Access And Inclusion on: June 25, 2021, 11:57:52 AM
Everything mentioned in the article about the positive features of Bitcoin is great,BUT.
How can a poor person buy Bitcoins,if he/she doesn't have enough money?
The fees for buying BTC are very high and KYC is mandatory.
Do poor people have computers and internet,in order to buy and use Bitcoins?
What if they buy BTC and use centralized crypto exchanges and centralized BTC wallets?
Is this true financial security?"Be your own bank"?
What if they get scammed and lose their BTC?


I think what the post highlights is that bitcoin is more inclusive as a store of value, medium of exchange, and as an investment vehicle compared to other centralize organizations and investment form. Bitcoin just asks the bare minimum if you will compare it to its competitors. It is more inclusive because you don't have to have a huge amount of money in order to save and invest unlike that of banks that requires specific minimum deposit and maintaining balance on your account.

In bitcoin, you can buy little by little as long as you have spare money to spend. You don't have to save and invest big amount at once. Of course, in saving and investing money is really needed. It's left to them where they would get the money they will save and invest in btc. They could take part time jobs and keep some extra to put in bitcoin. And if they really don't have the means to provide for capital, they can join campaigns that offer salary in btc as their starting ground. They can use their smartphones if they don't have laptop yet. After all, smartphones can also do what computers can. If they don't have internet, they can use cellular data for the mean time. There are endless opportunities in btc. You just have to keep looking and be determined enough.

Regarding KYC and wallet platform, it would be a personal decision on where to put their funds. There are still exchangers that does not require KYC. If they are uncomfortable with the ones requiring KYC, they can always opt to use the platforms that doesn't require such. In terms of wallet, I think most wallets nowadays really require to know your personal information. You just have to pick whether you want custodian or non-custodian wallet. Check the pros and cons first to avoid regrets later on.
3167  Economy / Economics / Re: Founders of South African Bitcoin exchange disappear after $3.6 billion 'hack' on: June 25, 2021, 11:19:55 AM
So this makes it the largest loss of bitcoin under such circumstances when you consider the contemporary value of the coins lost.  The exchange, Africrypt, told investors they were the victim of a hack and not to alert the authorities, you know, cuz that's super legitimate.  Some law firm attempting to investigate have tracked the stolen coins to tumblers and mixers to try and obscure where the stolen bitcoin was going.  I guess it remains to be determined if they were actually hacked or stole the money themselves, but the two founding brothers can't be found.

From Endgadget:

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Cryptocurrency investors in South Africa may have lost nearly $3.6 billion in Bitcoin following the disappearance of two brothers associated with one of the country’s largest cryptocurrency exchanges. According to Bloomberg, a law firm in Cape Town says it can’t locate Ameer and Raees Cajee, the founders of Africrypt. In April, the exchange told its investors it was the victim of a hack and asked them not to report the incident to the authorities on account it would “slow down” the process of recovering their missing money.

Some of those involved in the exchange hired Hanekom Attorneys, the law firm that said it couldn’t find the two brothers, to investigate the incident. It found that someone had withdrawn Africrypt’s pooled funds from the local accounts and client wallets where the coins were stored originally and put them through tumblers and mixers, making it difficult (though not impossible) to trace the money. “Africrypt employees lost access to the back-end platforms seven days before the alleged hack,” the law firm told Bloomberg. The outlet attempted to call both Cajee brothers multiple times only to get their voicemail each time.

Complicating any recovery attempt is that South Africa’s Finance Sector Conduct Authority can’t launch a formal investigation into the incident because cryptocurrency isn’t legally considered a financial product in the country. If no one can recover the money, it will go down as the largest cryptocurrency loss in history, easily overshadowing the approximately $200 million CAD that disappeared when the founder of Canada’s QuadrigaCX exchange died while travelling in India.

Like what other people think, I also see this as an insider job. The timing of disappearance of the founders of the exchange after the hacking incident looks very suspiscious to me. It doesn't look like it is just a coincidence. I think it is planned. A well-executed escape after stealing all the money of its users. Certainly, its users must be regretting big time that they opted to store their funds in an exchange. A platform that doesn't allow you to have the full autonomy over your money is really risky when it comes to provided security.

To add, I think its really risky to let a teenager, not yet of legal age to handle a billion-worth business. It's nice that a teenager has a mindset of being business-oriented, however, they should have at least mentored him until he turned 18 years of age. I just hope that they would recover the funds though because it's a hefty amount.

3168  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do Not Sell! Don't Let The Whales Get Your Precious BTC! on: June 24, 2021, 03:32:17 PM
I agree with you. The crash is just normal especially in bitcoin given its volatility rate. I wouldn't be surprise if today, bitcoin's price is down the hill and then tomorrow it will rise up again. It's just the usual phase. Normal trend of bitcoin during the day. We shouldn't be worried so much. Bitcoin has already proven its potential over the years until today. We have so little to worry about because bitcoin has a promising history.

You just need to learn and do proper data analysis in order to have a successful trade as well as to decide on what coin to invest in. I really do hope that its value will continue to go higher on the next few years.
3169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paraguay to propose Bill that would make Bitcoin Legal Tender on: June 24, 2021, 02:59:48 PM
After the adoption of Bitcoin by El Salvador, a congressional representative from Paraguay announces a bill that would allow this country to follow suit, but also to encourage mining (with renewable energy sources).
https://swacash.com/2021/06/23/after-el-salvador-will-paraguay-also-adopt-bitcoin/

As I have expected, the movement of El Salvador to make bitcoin as a legal tender will also urge other countries to do the same. Gradually, bitcoin mass adoption will surely happen worldwide especially now that many people are using and will start to use and invest in cryptocurrency. I commend the initiative of Paraguay to adopt bitcoin as a legal tender because it takes a lot of open-mindedness, awareness, and knowledge about bitcoin in order to consider such thing to be adopted in their country legally speaking.

I just hope they would really be mindful if ever mining will also start operating in their country. Energy consumption is one the greatest challenge when it comes to mining. A lot of mining sites have been forced to close due to minimization of power consumption. Hopefully, they would really use renewable energy sources like what you stated so it won't add more harm to the state of our planet.
3170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some millionaires hate Bitcoin? on: June 24, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
Probably because it gives financial freedom to the people which is problematic for some millionaires because they rely on people depending on them so bitcoin essentially takes away that dependence which in turn makes for low sales for the millionaires which is bad for the business.

I also think of this as one of the reasons why some millionares loathe bitcoin even though it provides so many benefits. I guess some wealthy people have a mindset that just want to gain and use their people on their own advantage. They love the workers dependence on them because it gives them a lot of profit. Hence, enough reason to hate bitcoin because it can be a source of financial independence as long as you are knowledgeable.

Another reason why I think the wealthy people aren't just a fan of bitcoin is that they already have much that they think it isn't really relevant and it's just a kind of scheme to scam people. They think it won't be beneficial to them, so they assume it won't be beneficial to others as well. Little did they know, bitcoin already produced and is still producing a lot of millionaires before up until the present.
3171  Economy / Economics / Re: holding bitcoin from early 2010 till today on: June 24, 2021, 01:40:45 PM
Of course there are people who are still holding them. This website shows top Bitcoin addresses that have been dormant for at least 5 years. This includes addresses from 2010. Obviously, It's hard to distinguish the addresses whose owners could have lost access to those that are still accessible but among them, I believe there are people who are still faithfully holding their coins.

Yes, I also think there are still several people that are still holding them. However, due to privacy and security reasons, they will not disclose their identity in this forum or even in different platforms. You wouldn't want to be targeted by the hackers if it were you, do you? They certainly have plans for long term that's why they are still holding it. Surely, these people know how to plan, play and strategize.

Although for sure, there are many people that already sold a portion of their fund during the year 2017 when bitcoin was really bullish. I can't blame them though. After all, we have our own personal reasons why we sell our assets. 
3172  Economy / Economics / Re: Why don't banks work with cryptocurrency? on: June 24, 2021, 12:29:18 PM
Isn't it obvious? Why would they want to embrace decentralized cryptocurrencies over their centralized currencies? That would cause them losses in several ways which is why they usually dislike cryptocurrencies.

On the other hand, many banks have openly embraced the technology behind cryptocurrencies like BTC which could help their improve their centralized currencies.

They could offer cryptocurrencies as alternate payment methods though if their governments permit them to do so.

I agree. One of cryptocurrencies' nature is being volatile. I think its volatility rate is one of the major reasons why banks don't want crypto on their platform. With one major drop, their generated profits has a high possibility to become losses. The frequent price fluctuation of cryptocurrencies is just another whole new level of challenge for them if ever they will risk their chance on it. You know, central organizations are still businesses after all. That's why i totally understand why most of them are really aloof with the idea of adopting cryptocurrency.

In addition, government permission also plays a great role. Banks need it in order for them to adopt it without violating the set of policies and regulations. If the government will continue to tighten their grip on cryptocurrency, banks will really have a hard time accepting it on their platform since the higher authorities are still unfavor of it.
3173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fully vaccinated individuals now spared of masks in the casinos in Vegas on: June 23, 2021, 03:36:40 PM
If that person cares about his health, he will still wear a mask and face shield outdoor and it is not about how they should debate about which opinion is right.


Your health is safe once you already take the vaccine, it's about the risk to the people surrounding you that have not taken their vaccine yet, and that is very irresponsible if we are not wearing a mask or people will go in public places without a vaccine. However, since America is a leading country, I'm sure soon everyone will get their vaccine and they are free to roam anywhere without a mask or face shield.
I heard that people already vaccinated can have the virus inside their body, but getting infected will reduce than people who are not vaccinated.
We do not want to risk people around us, especially our family, because they are important to us.
I heard from the news that people who already get vaccinated in the USA increase to 40%, and it will reach 70% before July 14th.
That will good for them. At least, with the vaccinated, they can get protection from the virus.

That's the reason why I'm still 50/50 about getting vaccinated. The vaccine that is available right now doesn't guarantee you at all that you'll never get infected with COVID, it will just lessen the possibility of you getting infected. Well, it might be a good thing but I am a paranoid man that's thinking about the side effects of it in the long run. I don't even know what's in the vaccine and I don't trust the Government either.
3174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling tax proposal in Ukraine on: June 23, 2021, 02:36:19 PM
Putting a tax on them is not a problem at all especially if their Government thinks that it will help their economy or their country in a way, as long as it won't be use on their Government officials personal use (hopefully), then it's all good. Most of the countries around the globe do put taxes on gambling platforms (casinos, and gambling sites).

The pandemic gave all of us a huge problem and one of them is that most of the economic sectors suffers in the sudden declination of sales, causing the economy to fall down, and that's where taxes are being use to support our economy.
3175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a Responsible Gambler on: June 23, 2021, 01:51:44 PM
I never quite liked the hypocrisy behind so-called responsible gambling.
My reaction's always the same: first the state makes me an intriguing advertisement promising me staggering winnings, luxury vacations and the possibility of a nabob life and then you tell me to play responsibly? But what does it mean to play responsibly? And above all, is it really possible to do so?
Playing responsibly to me now means to consider the money played already lost. It helps a lot.

Playing gambling in a responsible way is possible, nothing is impossible, you just don't wanna do it that's why you're saying it is impossible, maybe because you already lost too much on it for you to say it like that.

And the advertisement itself is just to attract players, unless you don't know what advertisement or marketing really is, then you're the one to blame. What they include in their advertisement is true, however, there a very low chance that you'll have it just because you play in their casino or gambling site. Be wise, that's my advice.
3176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Economic Costs of Gambling on: June 23, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
Due to this pandemic, it's hard to show yourself and sometimes we got easily irritated because of the environment because this is not our real environment like staying at home and it's just a different way to us.

Some of them want to release that boredom and trying to enjoy themselves and try to gamble but not all the time we are winning gambling which causes the player more depression and anger to the game some of them want to urge get their money back by continuously playing but the result is not in favor of them.

This is the reason why at the start we need to know the possible outcome and the risk we will face if we try to play gambling. It's the tolerance of the player how it goes

I agree with this.

People can't get in their zone mode when playing in gambling because of the pandemic, physical casinos has been shut down so the only option is online gambling. You'll definitely be irritated when you lost because you're not use to it, others are too desperate on making money therefore they bit the trap of online gambling as well resulting to another financial problem.

So the cost of it is indeed expensive, so much more in the long run.
3177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where to seek help if you need; concerned with gambling addiction. on: June 23, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and   and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I asay maturity, because it all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

Thank you for supporting me in this, because it's far from being obvious to everyone. People keep saying that all addictions are bad, while, in fact, some of them are much worse than others. Gambling addiction is among the dangerous ones, so replacing it with something less harmful is a success, not just "replacing one addiction with another". Of course drugs and alcohol should be out of the question.

Others think it is just the same is wrong. Yes, it is both addiction but we're talking about the negative impact that it will give to ourselves in the long run, the lesser one of course is much better (obviously). It is an achievement, to slowly crawl up to your addiction hole and see other things that could benefit you instead of taking too much money and toll on your body.

No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.
3178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in bitcoins for future kids on: June 22, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
    As a form of investment, many are buying cryptocurrency in smaller quantities and saving for their kids in the future. With the continuous rising and falling of the currency and the volatility of the market, how do we know the coins to buy and save for future use or is it a waste of money.
     Need your thoughts on this tho'...

As you have mentioned, cryptocurrency is volatile. It's really uncertain if the coins we hold today are still of value in the future. Remember, bitcoin is a speculative asset. However, if you really want so bad to have crypto as your investment for your children, then you should take a look at the chart, read some articles, and study the coins fundamentals and history. That way, you can smart guess what would be the status and potential of the coin you are thinking of investing in.

In addition, I suggest you add another investment vehicle for your kids and not just rely on crypto. It's still better to diversify than store all your funds in one asset. You can put it in other investment vehicle that you trust to work and earn for the long term. There are many other investments that are safe and could generate nice interests after a span of time.
3179  Economy / Economics / Re: Aren't we the reason why BTC is becoming too much centralized? on: June 22, 2021, 12:40:44 PM
So whenever Elon Musk tweets, we panic sell.
Whenever China says something like they'll stop mining and add some extra official shit to it, we panic sell.
When USA says their investors will need to disclose their crypto holdings over a certain amount, we panic sell.

On every panicking news, we panic sell.
They create enough FUD, and we panic sell.

I know I've used the "panic sell" so many times, but have you, for God's sake, ever imagined with a cool mind that whenever we panic sell during shakeouts in the markets, we are actually giving away our BTC to those big institutions who are willing to snatch it away from us, yeah I mean it, every single drop of BTC seems to be taken away from us and it'll be no longer an average guy's BTC which was Satoshi's vision (don't pull me on this, understand the emotions). So if it goes into the hands of these institutions and governments completely, where will we stand? Nowhere. Why don't we understand that it's all more of an intrigue well thought out to wipe out every single BTC hodler (even the smallest one out there) and take away the control from the hands of common people whom Satoshi Nakamoto left BTC with.

There are several reasons why people panic sell. And there's a little we can do about it because it is still their fund afterall. Maybe we can educate to minimize.

The usual people that tend to panic sell are the begginers and the guillibles. These type of people panic sell because they easily believe the negative news about bitcoin without fact checking or hearing second opinion from the professionals. When Elon Musk tweets, a lot go crazy and sell their assets without analyzing the data first. They would rather believe random information they have seen over the Internet instead of looking at the market trend and history of bitcoin.

Despite this panic selling events, I think it's still quite impossible for bitcoin to be owned by the government. Bitcoin is decentralized and they can't manipulate it as much as they want, hence, there is no point in chasing it. What I think is the most probable is that whales will be gaining more and more as long as people will panic sell. The whales are geniuses. They take advantage of the market volatility which can make them earn more profits in the long run.
3180  Economy / Economics / Re: Amateur Traders Cause Bubbles on: June 22, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
A study done by the New York Fed suggests that when trading in an asset becomes dominated by amateur traders, it tends to form asset bubbles.  The study further noted that amateur traders do not aggregate private information well and show lower levels of strategic sophistication than professional traders.  It pretty well explains the volatility that dominates the Bitcoin market without being a study about Bitcoin.

Fed Report:  https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr939.pdf


I really think amateur traders play a big role  in bitcoin volatility aside being its natural state.

Nowadays, bitcoin became more popular. It has higher demands compared to the past few years due to pandemic situation. The majority are finding ways to earn some income as well as alternative form of entertainment or past-time that could help them survive being stuck at home. That being said, a lot of begginers have entered the bitcoin community, which made them take a large portion of the users of btc.

It is a nice thing to have new users, don't get me wrong. However, these newbies usually tend to follow gossips and random information circulating the mainstream media. The begginers are usually worried and bothered so much that they ride the hype and participates to selling despite the losses due to FOMO. With this, the market becomes more volatile than it originally is. And most of the time, the whales are the ones benefiting - they can buy coins at a lower price and they can gain more profits.
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