Could someone tell me if openledger and freedomledger are the same thing?
I have created an account on freedomledger, is this automatically my account on openledger?
Thanks, this whole bitshares thing feel real unnatural to me.
Honestly, I'm inclined to agree with this user. It feels very convoluted as to how this ICO works as well as very complicated. I worry that given this platform is supposedly being built on similar technology to Bitshares it not be user friendly at all and nothing will get done... or even if it is it'll be hard to adopt because of how much of a pain in the ass it is to use it |
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So, once people can create their own addresses and the main net launches isn't this technically when (escrowed) trading begins? I'll be looking to partake in some of this and see if I can pick up some more cheap coins before it officially hits the exchanges. This project looks like it has a bright future but will take some time to get there  Official trading starts 14 June. Until that time, the exchange will not get full nodes, but you can trade through escrow between the owners of Waves. Perfect, sounds great to me. I have no problem with escrowed trading. I noticed YoBit is trading as well but have read numerous warnings on this thread as well as on the Waves official twitter so I'll be staying away from exchanges until the 14th. |
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So, once people can create their own addresses and the main net launches isn't this technically when (escrowed) trading begins? I'll be looking to partake in some of this and see if I can pick up some more cheap coins before it officially hits the exchanges. This project looks like it has a bright future but will take some time to get there |
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Hi guys i just want to share my experience in gambling which is i am still playing since january but never made any profit with this game.. any other tricks settings and methods are already tried but still now never made any profits.. What you can suggest to me i will still continue to gamble in dice game with other methods or just stop gamble..  I mostly win on dice sites and have invested in a few of their bankrolls. Its easy to win if you have a big enough bankroll and bet right. If you google the martingale system it may help you go from a loser to a winner. |
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It's not a pump and dump. its a real project that has come alive. At first when the ico happened I too thought it was all a big scam put on by some whales, but it turned out to be one of the most legit projects crypto has seen so far.
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OP just fudding for cheap coins. We've seen it 100 times.
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everyone gets in at the same price....
That's what I like most.
I dont like how miners with free equipment can mine coins for basically the cost of electricity.
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I'm back in business.
I have been super busy taking care of my software development business, but I have some free time now that I can put to work on graphics.
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Ok, I have $ again in my bank account. (I had other priorities more important than going to exchange dollars to buy bitcoin)
Anyone willing to sell me 50$ (0.2~ BTC) worth of bitcoin ?
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If you state on the transaction that it was for digital goods, paypal wont help you at all and the transaction can't be reversed.
I got scammed not long ago and lost a couple of bucks from my paypal account.
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This would be great. But what would happen if the system crashed?
if Implemented correctly, it shouldn't. As with any information solution. Depending on the sensitivity of the service you might need a high reliability platform. This involves not only a robust fail safe software but also backup hardware. ---------- If an IT service fails and loses information. It is mostly negligence. |
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I'll submit this project to the coinbase hackaton thing.
Lets see how this works, thank you all for the input.
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Yeah.. well at least I learned.
sucks.. now I have to go to the bank and get more $ in my account...
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I understand that the hard part is going to be the disputes.
Still I believe that if it can't all can be automated, at least I can provide part of it automated.
How about a free system(free as in the fee is a miner's fee for the trades) That can handle disputes. Once a dispute is called, a trusted user can mediate the dispute requesting information to both parties.
The way to get a trusted user is to offer the service,I would have to get a couple of escrows interested in the platform and they could mediate the disputes for a fee.
Effectively, it would be paying extra to get most of your money back if you got scammed, so it reduces the loss up to a small fee.
:: that being said, if there is no dispute, the system can work as proposed and fully automatic.
The way to do it would be by having the platform also sign the transaction and give the trusted escrows power over the key that the platform holds for the assigned transactions.
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The way it would work should be for both A and B to agree on a trusted member so that if a claim happens, the escrow will take in place in the transaction. If there is no dispute then the escrow never takes in place and the transaction is fully automatic.
Tho, if a dispute were to happen, the only one paying the fee would be the winner of the dispute.
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is that alright?
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Conclusion: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This Claim is Now Closed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Gonzalo Diaz Rodriguez, We completed our investigation for the following transaction: Case ID: PP-003-820-879-418 Transaction Date: Mar 30, 2015 Transaction Amount: -$51.80 USD Seller's Email: jserraa@outlook.comSeller's Name: Jaime Serra Alba Unfortunately, we are denying your claim because your purchase was for a virtual, digital, or intangible item, which is not covered under PayPal Purchase Protection. We only cover claims involving physical items that can be shipped and tracked. We encourage you to work directly with your seller to resolve the problem. You'll find their contact information on the Transaction Details page. Yours sincerely, PayPal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- So.. I got 50$ scammed from me and paypal didn't want to make the chargeback. |
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@gogodr PM me if you'd like to collaborate on something bitcoin related in Node.js. Even if we don't pursue this idea, I have a few others. Also, I created a Node.js Slack community if you'd like to join. Alot of folks from the /r/node subreddit and node.js google group have joined. It gives a nice platform to talk with other node.js devs in real-time. (I see a few bitcoin folks too). nodeslackers.io to register. Or PM me and I'll give you my personal email. I've been looking to partner up and learn more about the bitcoin space I just registered.  |
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::EDIT:: Still working on this  |
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I thought that the fact that, if a scam were to occur in the platform,the bitcoin would disappear as nor A nor B would have access to that bitcoin.
Process:
- A sends bitcoin to b through the platform.
- A no longer haves that bitcoin, it is being held by the platform and just waiting for A to sign it.
- B can see that the transaction is on process and proceeds to send the goods to A
- Once A receives said goods, A signs the transaction
- B receives the bitcoin
Scenario 1
*If B never sends the goods, A never signs.
::Outcome::
A loses the bitcoin as it is being held by the platform.
B didn't send his goods.
B never receives the bitcoin.
Scenario 2
*If B sends the goods, but A never signs.
::Outcome::
A loses the bitcoin as it is being held by the platform
B sent the goods to A
B never receives the bitcoin.
-- Proposal to avoid the loss: Have someone mediate the transactions so that he/she can resolve a dispute.
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Scenario 2 is not likely to happen, as A would have no motive to not sign
Scenario 1 is the one that could happen, but if it were to happen B wouldn't benefit from it other than making A lose bitcoin.
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I think this is one of those, why not both?
how about a platform that offers the both things.
- An easy and fast system without an external party in the transaction other than the application
- a medium for an easy escrow so that an external person can mediate the trade.
The second would have this process:
- C creates the transaction.
- A sends the bitcoin to the platform
- B sends the goods to A and registers it in the platform
- A confirms the reception of the goods
- C signs the transaction and the bitcoin is sent to B
- B receives the bitcoin
*If there is a dispute
- A makes the dispute
- B submits evidence
- A submits evidence
- C mediates and sends the bitcoin to the rightful party.
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I want an excuse to get on a node.js project with bitcoin core or bitcoinjs.
I'm thinking about making a multi sig system.
The system would be like this:
A wants to send bitcoin to B in exchange for something.
A sends the bitcoin to a generated address from my app along with the target address, then the app makes the transaction requiring A's signature before the bitcoin is sent to B.
Any inputs on the subject? hurdles, maybe you think it is a stupid idea or a brilliant one?
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