Am is blind or i can see that S3 is slower than S2 ? S2 is in another topic stated to mine at 1THS?
 ??  S3 its 478GH/s @366W S2 its 1 TH/s @less than 1100W from the wall. I think its way better S3 because of power .S2 its entirely diffent also different machine Oh ok i didn't know that i guess the manufacturer is different than? No... same manufacturer. The difference is in the ASIC used in each machine. By the way, you forgot to mention that the S3 is cheaper, too. S2 - 1TH/s @ 1100W is $1625 2 S3s - 956GH/s @ 732W is ~$900 yeah, didnt think it was necessary to talk about price hehe. its a nonsense to buy S2 having S3 This is not an exact comparison. You have to add the price of either two CX600-750 or one EVGA 1300 to run two S3s, bringing the price to $1050 (still cheaper, of course). Besides, S2 is here and S3 is an unknown, but expectedly good commodity. We just don't know yet if S3 will work well, very well or excellent. In addition, S3 has the possibility of upgrade to 1.8-2TH that is "expected" in July-Aug. yeah, well in my case, i had 2 Corsair CX750M from my S1´s so i didnt have to buy new PSU´s. Will just replace S1 for S3 but yeah, if i want to buy more S3 in the future, i will have to buy more Corsair |
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Am is blind or i can see that S3 is slower than S2 ? S2 is in another topic stated to mine at 1THS?
?? S3 its 478GH/s @366W S2 its 1 TH/s @less than 1100W from the wall. I think its way better S3 because of power .S2 its entirely diffent also different machine Oh ok i didn't know that i guess the manufacturer is different than? No... same manufacturer. The difference is in the ASIC used in each machine. By the way, you forgot to mention that the S3 is cheaper, too. S2 - 1TH/s @ 1100W is $1625 2 S3s - 956GH/s @ 732W is ~$900 yeah, didnt think it was necessary to talk about price hehe. its a nonsense to buy S2 having S3 |
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Am is blind or i can see that S3 is slower than S2 ? S2 is in another topic stated to mine at 1THS?
?? S3 its 478GH/s @366W S2 its 1 TH/s @less than 1100W from the wall. I think its way better S3 because of power .S2 its entirely diffent also different machine |
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.
whats the purpose of doing that?You earn more? and how do you set up difficulty? Technically setting low difficult or high difficulty will not give you any benefit in time. But for lower hash power miners, setting higher difficulty will take a lot of time for the ASIC to hash and will report less frequently. In that time higher has power miners may already be reported back and solved a block so the lower hashrate miner will always report late and the work will go waste. Same time if a lower difficulty is set the lower hash power miner will solve fast and report in time. Likewise, if we set lower difficulty for higher hash rate miners, they will solve it fast and report very often lead to unwanted traffic and its better to set a higher difficulty. but that difficulty has to be configured on the pool? or in the antminer ?. I mine @ bitminter. And default difficulty of S1 / S3 its not good then?(i know no one has S3 yet but i suppose will the same as S1) |
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.
whats the purpose of doing that?You earn more? and how do you set up difficulty? |
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OK. Then hope they send it soon hehe but I think I don't have that edit button since I placed the order xD
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If the "edit" hyperlink no longer exists next to your order usually that means they'll ship within a day...
Best to contact them via email...
yes my edit left yesterday. i dont see that edit hyperlink. where is that? next to my order or if i click order and enter more details i dont see it |
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Just wanted to say "thanks" for all the info. Picked up used s1's and they are now voltmodded  Why you dont prefer to buy 1 S3 for example? 366W @478 GH/s. This tutorial is great but when you use 3 undervolted, would be better just 1 S3. The advantage is, he's hashing with those Today. Undervolted S1's may not be as cost effective per watt as the S3, but the advantage is time. There are loads of used S1's floating around that you can buy right now, and even the earliest ship date for the S3 is 7/14 + however long it takes to get to you. Batch 3 is sold out, and no telling when batch 4 will ship. So if you missed the S3 boat, an undervolted S1 lets you stay relatively competitive before the S3's hits. Yeah thats right. I have 2 S1´s right now mining at 400 GH/s together at 420W each i think because OC.... and waiting for 2 S3(im batch 2). But once i get my 2 S3, i will sell my S1, but yeah right now if you just have S1, its nice to undervolt them, and its so easy and you safe a lot of power |
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Just wanted to say "thanks" for all the info. Picked up used s1's and they are now voltmodded Why you dont prefer to buy 1 S3 for example? 366W @478 GH/s. This tutorial is great but when you use 3 undervolted, would be better just 1 S3. |
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Hi there. I have 2 S1 and i was thinking to sell them, because i bought 2 S3. Then i found this tutorial for undervolting antminer S1. But i dont know whats the "pencil mod". what do i have to do?? just press where the image says with a pencil? or what? i dont get it xD Oh and most important thing. Is it worth it to dont sell S1, and when i have my S3(478GH/s @366W without OC),with my Corsair CX750M, then undervolt my 2 S1 and use them also with my 2 corsairs? Together with the S3?. Or i should better sell them?. Considering: 332W --> 280 GH/s (2 S1 with pencil mod) vs 366W --> 478 GH/s (1 S3). Is it worth it to undervolt then? or better sell them and buy maybe another S3. edit: ok i found here the pencil mod video tutorial, i will watch it to see how it works I am running 6 S1's as together they are still making @$20 a day and cost me @$7 to run with BTC at $620. So I plan on keep running them at normal speed until the cost gets closer to what they make then undervolt them which will drop my cost in about half. Also if BTC would happen to go back up they will stay profitable for sometime to come or I may want to run them during the winter just for the heat. I have 1 S3 coming but nobody knows for sure at this point what kind of unforeseen problems the S3 may have and I will not buy more until they get out into people's hands first. Yeah but i mean, i can run 2 S1 @332W for 280GH/s .... or buy another S3 when i can, and it will be 366W for 478GH/s. I mean its almost the same W(332W vs 366W) but the GH/s is much higher on S3 than S1 (478GH/s vs 280GH/s) |
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Hi there. I have 2 S1 and i was thinking to sell them, because i bought 2 S3. Then i found this tutorial for undervolting antminer S1. But i dont know whats the "pencil mod". what do i have to do?? just press where the image says with a pencil? or what? i dont get it xD Oh and most important thing. Is it worth it to dont sell S1, and when i have my S3(478GH/s @366W without OC),with my Corsair CX750M, then undervolt my 2 S1 and use them also with my 2 corsairs? Together with the S3?. Or i should better sell them?. Considering: 332W --> 280 GH/s (2 S1 with pencil mod) vs 366W --> 478 GH/s (1 S3). Is it worth it to undervolt then? or better sell them and buy maybe another S3. edit: ok i found here the pencil mod video tutorial, i will watch it to see how it works |
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Much as I appreciate averages balance stuff out I'm worried about these big blocks & the lack of return on them.
There are many pools. If we are too greedy for blocks we may well have nothing but crap work dumped on us ( big blocks, low pay ). And at that point our average will suffer.
If that happens your only choice will be to go to a new pool. & Bitminter will die.
No-one can afford to run at a loss after all. So I'd be careful about these big blocks. If someone is trying to pay feck-all for a ton of work you really do need to avoid them.
But(i dont know how it works), but i have been in just another pool apart from this one, and we never had there blocks of 24h or so. I mean... its normal that maybe in 1 day we find 2,3,4 blocks, and then suddenly when everything looks to be going nice, a block of 2 days appear?. Its like if the system had something like: If blocks/day > 3 or 4 then nextblock = 24hours At the current difficulty, someone posted in the previous page, that our average block discovery for a week should be 10.4. I think we already hit the average this week. It is just normal to hit high difficulty block once in a while as low difficulty one (we found one at 2.x% then 98.9%). On the long term, we should be close to the average. well, yeah, thats right. Hope i receive my S3 soon, every day im earning less for blocks argggggg |
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Much as I appreciate averages balance stuff out I'm worried about these big blocks & the lack of return on them.
There are many pools. If we are too greedy for blocks we may well have nothing but crap work dumped on us ( big blocks, low pay ). And at that point our average will suffer.
If that happens your only choice will be to go to a new pool. & Bitminter will die.
No-one can afford to run at a loss after all. So I'd be careful about these big blocks. If someone is trying to pay feck-all for a ton of work you really do need to avoid them.
But(i dont know how it works), but i have been in just another pool apart from this one, and we never had there blocks of 24h or so. I mean... its normal that maybe in 1 day we find 2,3,4 blocks, and then suddenly when everything looks to be going nice, a block of 2 days appear?. Its like if the system had something like: If blocks/day > 3 or 4 then nextblock = 24hours |
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You didn't considered the presupposition that the machines will only be sent after 10th of July.
It's better to receive a working and fully tested machine on 15 of July than receive a new not fully tested machine on 15 of July.
The question is not if it's better to have a new not fully tested machine on 5 of July versus having a fully tested machine on 15 of July.
The date of shipping doesn't matter in the context of the conversation, and the reason for the shipping date has already been attributed to BITMAIN not having production PCBs in house until tonight. Further, what exactly constitutes "working and fully tested"? Your proposition is that BITMAIN should hold your unit for 10 days to burn in test because then you're likely to receive a good working unit. My argument is that burning in for 10 days vs 1 day does not greatly decrease the probability that you receive bum HW. Wasting 9 days burning in the machine costs you, the end-user, hugely. If you don't agree then how about BITMAIN sends me your barely tested HW and I'll burn-test it for 10 days before sending it off to you. yeah, HW can fail on 1st day, 1st month, 5th month... or never... who knows when its going to fail |
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Yes, we have been mining with one S3 testing sample on our engineer's desk. But we have not been able to do a large mining farm with S3 yet. We have been using S2 machine to deploy a mining farm, and that is how we own the hash rate.
Hope that these words are genuine I was actually hoping they were mining with s3s so that when they do ship the network hash rate doesnt go through the roof instead of just being reallocated this will equal less roi Personally, If these companies insist on testing (or mining) for a prolonged period (not suggesting that is the case here btw) then they should take the customers details to mine on a pool of our choosing. quality testing? check. better propect of ROI? Check. Yeah, i wouldnt care if they mined with my S3 as long as they used my pool user and pass and of course discount a % for electricity cost, but at least i would receive something on the waiting period since i payed  (if they were mining with S3 of course), if they are not, just with 1 for testing its ok, but i suppose they must test every unit at least a few hours to see everything is ok. Sorry bitmain its just that this is my 1st order in your website and dont know how this works have 2 S1 but bought them on ebay I will just relax and wait for my 2 S3 |
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hope we dont have a fukin block like last one in a few months  |
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Start first batch production tomorrow? . I thought they had all units produced and just needed to be delivered omg so if 1st batch starts delivering 14 we have delays when will we receive 2nd batch then?
My thoughts exactly. well they sais 14 or before, but.... dates for 2nd batch?? and 3rd batch guys will receive S3 on august? xD Please deliver 2nd batch fast  oskruo, please take it easy. Everything is on track, as we have sold the B1 as "delivering between 10th and 20th". As we can make a steady running sample machine, it is nearly risk free for us to promise a shipping date, and then we opened the sales. We will ship as we stated. Ok, thanks.  |
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Well lets just wait, keep calm |
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Start first batch production tomorrow? . I thought they had all units produced and just needed to be delivered omg so if 1st batch starts delivering 14 we have delays when will we receive 2nd batch then?
My thoughts exactly. well they said 14 or before, but.... dates for 2nd batch?? and 3rd batch guys will receive S3 in august? Please deliver 2nd batch fast |
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Starting first batch production tomorrow? . I thought they had all units produced and just needed to be delivered omg so if 1st batch starts delivering 14th july?. we have delays then, when will we receive 2nd batch?
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