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People don't actually believe any of that word salad nonsense, do they?
This is really amazing.These people are in this situation because none of them had the required brainpower to ask a very simple question (why would garza, amazon, target, walmart, anyone on the planet pay $20 for a paycoin) and now they are all in on a coin that has never come close to answering that question (and these morons still aren't asking it)
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Why did you stop there?
What if you lose 10 in a row right off the bat?
If there is no EV, it should balance out in the end, if you are able to stop as soon as you get a profit, good for you, but you haven't done anything spectacular here.
Do the impossible task of finding a 0 house edge game and bet the same amount every time until you reach profit is great, except or all the times you hit a losing streak.
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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.
Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet . Secondly take eye on the Profit % . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet . Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means. @MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it. Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something. Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss. There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent. "mathematically competent" people know that -ev bets are bad, so there is no technique to optimize a return on investment on a dice site besides being the casino. |
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Now we're in the big leagues kids, an investment firm with a whopping 2.28776496 BTC portfolio is on board.
None of these arbitrage groups have ever fucked over users before, and people smart enough to do this deinitely need a few more ions to ut things over the top, so congratulations to shark and korvas, I guess you guys were right and you becoming millionaires is imminent.
What has a post from jackryder about Coinitrage.com got to do with me. You are going to get rich because a big time arbitrage totally not scam site accepts ION. I'm happy for you. It's funny when people like you who carry the tag 'Legendary' think a single website or scheme can make you rich. I'm pretty sure though your not a dumb ass so less of the cheapshots please. I'm not sure what the funniest part of this post is. Your inability to understand sarcasm, Your thought that my legendary tag means anything. Your inability to know that you are contracts to you're. Or your general inability to see how stupid investing in ION is. O well, good thing there is a built in holiday excuse coming up, just like GAW around Christmas when they were doing whatever it is that they were doing. It's really a terrible coincidence that they finished the app just after the holiday shutdown. It's a real shame they couldn't get it submitted in time. It's not like iconnect shutting down for the holidays is a yearly occurrence or anything, just more bad luck for some hard working guys that fell for an obvious scam once upon a time. I'm sure it will all work out lie it always does. Sorry Phildo got it wrong you are a dumbass ..... I too was being sarcastic  In fact in the land of BCT you'd be a 'legendary' dumbass Oh no, someone dumb enough to lose money to garza is questioning my intelligence. How will I ever get through the holidays? He's also making fun of a meaningless tag I have on a forum, christmas is ruined twice. |
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Word is apple store does not accept applications during holidays and are shut down till 27th (huey posted some link, I'm too lazy to search on mob).
It is queued though.
Android should be no problem.
So after holidays it seems.
Apple's holiday break was announced a month ago but I guess you can't expect ionomy's crack team of 5-10 full-time employees to plan for things like that. https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5mac.com/2016/11/29/itunes-connect-holiday-app-store/amp/So Dec 28th then? Yes, that is the link. And yes they are aware, the game was finished and submitted on 26 so nothing to do about it, neither with knowing it a month before. Process can take from hours to days. I guess queue is growing, so 28 might be optimistic, as you always are ;-) Yet another thing a cheerleader thinks is a good thing and is a giant red flag to me. The apple holiday break is an annual thing. Why was there no rush to get it finished before the holidays? Why didn't they mention the issue of the holiday break before? |
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Now we're in the big leagues kids, an investment firm with a whopping 2.28776496 BTC portfolio is on board.
None of these arbitrage groups have ever fucked over users before, and people smart enough to do this deinitely need a few more ions to ut things over the top, so congratulations to shark and korvas, I guess you guys were right and you becoming millionaires is imminent.
What has a post from jackryder about Coinitrage.com got to do with me. You are going to get rich because a big time arbitrage totally not scam site accepts ION. I'm happy for you. It's funny when people like you who carry the tag 'Legendary' think a single website or scheme can make you rich. I'm pretty sure though your not a dumb ass so less of the cheapshots please. I'm not sure what the funniest part of this post is. Your inability to understand sarcasm, Your thought that my legendary tag means anything. Your inability to know that you are contracts to you're. Or your general inability to see how stupid investing in ION is. O well, good thing there is a built in holiday excuse coming up, just like GAW around Christmas when they were doing whatever it is that they were doing. It's really a terrible coincidence that they finished the app just after the holiday shutdown. It's a real shame they couldn't get it submitted in time. It's not like iconnect shutting down for the holidays is a yearly occurrence or anything, just more bad luck for some hard working guys that fell for an obvious scam once upon a time. I'm sure it will all work out lie it always does. |
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Now we're in the big leagues kids, an investment firm with a whopping 2.28776496 BTC portfolio is on board.
None of these arbitrage groups have ever fucked over users before, and people smart enough to do this deinitely need a few more ions to ut things over the top, so congratulations to shark and korvas, I guess you guys were right and you becoming millionaires is imminent.
What has a post from jackryder about Coinitrage.com got to do with me. You are going to get rich because a big time arbitrage totally not scam site accepts ION. I'm happy for you. |
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Now we're in the big leagues kids, an investment firm with a whopping 2.28776496 BTC portfolio is on board.
None of these arbitrage groups have ever fucked over users before, and people smart enough to do this deinitely need a few more ions to ut things over the top, so congratulations to shark and korvas, I guess you guys were right and you becoming millionaires is imminent.
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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.
Talking about dice game, if the original martingale isn't effective how far the modified one? Still they are playing under the provably fair system "in every rolls" so nothing changed. Martingale is not a technology that can be modified. The output of martingale will always be the same. If you are looking on how can you increase the chances of your winning by using martingale then try sports betting instead. It's far more effective in sposts betting than putting that method in those house edge gambling games. The analyzation of course will come on yourself based on your research and proper betting. Not an assurance that it can give you always win but it can take your for a long run with a good win/loss record. you're obviously true that the point of this thread is OP has looking new strategy to increase his winning and i think strategy in gambling only makes people more confident when they starting gambling but regarding the results it will be unpredictable however using martingale for sport betting too have high risk because if you putting your money for high odds then it will automatically reduce your chance to win your bets because usually on sport betting high odds have low chance to win in every type of betting high odds has a low chance of winning. That's how casinos make money, by paying out less than the actual odds. |
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This el1t3 haxxor thinks glorious leader MOON should hold another contest of some sorts. Predicting the ION teams failures is the only reliable way to make money from the ION project from what I see  Happy Holidays. I hope you all found better projects to invest in this year. Shooting fish in a barrel is... unsportsmanlike Maybe we could do something based on exchange rate if they actually manage to list it on a proper exchange. Yobit is too easy to manipulate. Sharkie - I thought Bittrex was imminent, what's up with that? I think we are still waiting on the ionomy to english dictionary to find out what imminent means in their language. |
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Again I've been trying to discuss this everytime people do tackle about the dice strategy which martiangle. I only added othe systemw which is called paroli. Paroli system usually happens when you when 3x straight or after a lose you go back to base bet.
What is the benefit of returning to base after 3x straight wins? Do you double your bet every time you win? Can you show some maths that show us that is it profitable if you had an infinite wallet? it's mathematically impossible for it to be profitable. yeah if you do the math you’ll see that no matter how far along you are in the doubling process each time you win , in the end martingale eat the whole bankroll you have. so the best strategy to get profit in gambling is to never gamble actually! not martingale or another. What you are saying is true that using martingale or another thing in dice or any other games wont give you profit , better you can go with sports betting where you can atleast do some analysis of the matches and teams and calculate some bets and win and in poker you can use some strategy and win it. you cannot use martingale in sports betting. martingale does not work with bets with a negative expected value. If you think you can use martingale in sports betting, you are not smart enough to make sports bets with a positive expected value regularly. You may find one by accident, but you are probably making bad bets, and bad bets plus martingale equals losing. |
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are there any games currently available by these developers? I would love a chance to play some. No, it seems that their first game will be released shortly after the launch of the coin. Why don't they burn XPY receiving in exchange for ION stake offering? The amount is 6,000,000 XPY. If they weren't sold out, then where 750,000 ION staker went into? There aren't that much transaction on XPY blockchain. I asked on forum, xpytalk, about this the site closed.  Really.. this AGAIN? why is expecting the people who are running this thing to keep their word worthy of capital letters? if they can't do simple things like register a company for over a year or burn xpy, how could people expect them to revolutionize the mobile gaming industry to make everyone rich? |
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Again I've been trying to discuss this everytime people do tackle about the dice strategy which martiangle. I only added othe systemw which is called paroli. Paroli system usually happens when you when 3x straight or after a lose you go back to base bet.
What is the benefit of returning to base after 3x straight wins? Do you double your bet every time you win? Can you show some maths that show us that is it profitable if you had an infinite wallet? it's mathematically impossible for it to be profitable. |
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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.
There may be lots of strategies will be available but if you're looking for a good one then you may end up disappointed only. If you ask me, martingale is a very good strategy and if you are doing it in player vs player games in real life, definitely you will get chances to make profits. But, I do not know how gambling sites are managing for such long losing streak to throw us away. I think that no strategy is working perfectly and at the end its about the luck you have with you, without luck you will not win anything for sure. Gambling is very boring when no strategy is being use, I never gamble without strategy or on what they called fully relying on luck. I feel like gambling is a good challenge and once I can win, it's already a big achievement on my part. I used martingale before but it does not work with dice and I understand why, it's because of the house edge. But to tell, it works like a chart in sports betting. Martingale doesn't work on sports betting because if you think it does there is definitely a house edge when you make sports bets. |
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Of all the stakers GAW offered you decided to use the 9/11 staker as an example. Then squirming around for an oh so clever response you pull in the Christmas market terrorist attack
WHY
Look up unprincipled narcissist that's you it's how you roll.
So back to the original question - where does ionomy draw the line? Garza didn't hesitate to use 9/11 for his scheme. Are you saying ionomy is above that? Such nice people.
Yes
So to make a point about contemptible promotions I should have used... NiceHashlet? Well, at least it got your vitriol flowing albeit misdirected. You can call me a narcissist (doesn't look like you know the meaning of the word though) but I'm still not the lying conniving sleazeball taking your BTC. to be fair, the new staker.pngs make more sense than the hashlets did.
Hashlets were supposed to be miners, but were just pngs that made numbers move on a website.
I haven't seen anyone claim that the new staker pngs are anything but team ionomy exchanging their premine and the coins they get from staking other people's coins in masternodes for usable coins.
Buying a staker is just as dumbas buying a hashlet, but at least they are getting what they are paying for
Fair enough. Taking BTC and paying out ION is a major innovation. Minimizes expenses for the scheme and makes them look honest if you squint in a certain way. Not a major innovation, but at least honest, which is a step up for this crew. It's part of why I really don't feel bad for the people that have fallen for many of the scams and schemes on this forum. The plans wouldn't work if they weren't run by scumbags who are lying, at least if your miner never shipped the band-aid is just ripped off instead of running it until it catches fire and paying for electricity to end up with less bitcoins than you started with. Nothing about Garza's plans and schemes made sense, so him running with the money didn't really make a difference. Team ionomy is still here, doing stuff, but at least with their staker program they are delivering exactly what they promise. Their worthless ions in exchange for coins that they can sell or use elsewhere. |
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No.
Each bet on a dice site has a negative expected value.
Each bet on a dice site is an independent event.
There is no way to combine independent bets with negative expectations to give you a positive expectation.
If there was a way to beat the house, the house would be broken.
of course no , unless if you do martingale not continuously. i mean to use martingale betting system in short time with a low percentage bet amount from your bankroll. for example do martingale with bet amount of 0.01 out of your 10 bitcoin bankroll means it is 0.1 percent! and stop martingale when you have got 1 percent. Percentage doesn't matter. Bad bets are bad bets. Every bet on a dice site is a bad bet. There is no way to arrange independent, bad bets to be good bets. |
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BTW. Suchmoon the 9/11 innuendo isn't being nasty or clever it's being a sick F**K so do the honorable thing and edit your post
Really? War on Christmas "promotion" the day after a terrorist attack on a Christmas market is fine? Good to know. 9/12 skin then? Or is it some other obscure movie reference that went over my head? Your unwavering loyalty is preventing you from seeing who the real sick fucks are. Playing dumb over the 9/11 Garza innuendo, justifying your post by trying to link the War on Christmas promotion to the attack on a Christmas market  .... 9/12 skin Me reporting you to a moderator would be doing you a favor Oh FFS... of course I know that you can't ever imagine ionomy doing anything wrong. Whatever shitty "promotion" they come up with must be the best ever and any criticism, context, or - God forbid - pointing out a precedent is "innuendo". But despite your deluded devotion ionomy "stakers" and "skins" ARE direct descendants of Garza's hashlet PNG bullshit. Didn't make sense back then, doesn't make sense now, and money grab is the only reason for the existence of this "business model" in both cases. So back to the original question - where does ionomy draw the line? Garza didn't hesitate to use 9/11 for his scheme. Are you saying ionomy is above that? Such nice people. to be fair, the new staker.pngs make more sense than the hashlets did. Hashlets were supposed to be miners, but were just pngs that made numbers move on a website. I haven't seen anyone claim that the new staker pngs are anything but team ionomy exchanging their premine and the coins they get from staking other people's coins in masternodes for usable coins. Buying a staker is just as dumbas buying a hashlet, but at least they are getting what they are paying for |
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No.
Each bet on a dice site has a negative expected value.
Each bet on a dice site is an independent event.
There is no way to combine independent bets with negative expectations to give you a positive expectation.
If there was a way to beat the house, the house would be broken.
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How is referencing the charity fraud from this coins' father organization make someone a sick fuck?
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https://ionomy.com/terms-serviceTerminating an Account. Ionomy Limited may (a) suspend or terminate your access to any of the Virtual Currency Services, and (b) deactivate or cancel your Ionomy.com Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if Ionomy Limited reasonably suspects you of using your Ionomy.com Account in furtherance of illegal activity. You will be permitted to transfer Virtual Currency associated with your Virtual Currency Wallet for ninety (90) days after Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order. If any transaction is in a pending state at the time your Ionomy.com Account is cancelled or suspended, such transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate. You may not cancel your Ionomy.com Account to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to Virtual Currency. Upon cancellation of your Ionomy.com Account, you authorize Ionomy Limited to cancel or suspend pending Exchange Service transactions and, after providing written notice to the you, return the funds associated with such transactions to your address or bank account, as applicable. In the event that you or Ionomy Limited terminates this Agreement or your access to the Virtual Currency Services, or deactivates or cancels your Virtual Currency Account, you will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder. In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or account errors, Ionomy Limited may temporarily suspend access to your Account until the problem is resolved. You can terminate your Ionomy account at any time by contacting support@ionomy.com with a notification of cancellation Nice try. Ninja-edit without changing the date: https://archive.is/j6myj#selection-671.0-675.1560Terminating an Account.
Ionomy Limited may (a) suspend or terminate your access to any of the Virtual Currency Services, and (b) deactivate or cancel your Ionomy.com Account as required by a valid subpoena or court order, or if Ionomy Limited reasonably suspects you of using your Ionomy.com Account in furtherance of illegal activity. You will be permitted to transfer Virtual Currency associated with your Virtual Currency Wallet for ninety (90) days after Account deactivation or cancellation unless such transfer is otherwise prohibited (i) under the law, or (ii) by a valid subpoena or court order. If any transaction is in a pending state at the time your Ionomy.com Account is cancelled or suspended, such transaction may be cancelled and/or refunded as appropriate. You may not cancel your Ionomy.com Account to evade an investigation or avoid paying any amounts otherwise due to Virtual Currency. Upon cancellation of your Ionomy.com Account, you authorize Ionomy Limited to cancel or suspend pending Exchange Service transactions and, after providing written notice to the you, return the funds associated with such transactions to your address or bank account, as applicable. In the event that you or Ionomy Limited terminates this Agreement or your access to the Virtual Currency Services, or deactivates or cancels your Virtual Currency Account, you will remain liable for all amounts due hereunder. In the event that a technical problem causes system outage or account errors, Ionomy Limited may temporarily suspend access to your Account until the problem is resolved. Such trustworthy. so it was added after and korvas doesnt acknowledge that it wasnt there? also if you can click the cross thus not acknowledging the new terms does this mean your account runs under old terms and if rates etc changed then ionomy are in breach? i swear bootstrap is a boon for decent programmers to make a site but god damn it allows shonky people to look skilled and professional when they arent. call a modal box is all they probably did. what they needed was some php code in the main site template call the acknowledge page. if not acknowledged log them out or set a locked flag so all their stuff is read only. im guessing they just did a modal prompt box and it nowhere stores a flag that they agreed to new terms. that's the interesting question. the ToS pops up often if you click the x, but the site is still usable (as far as i can tell with 0 in my account). When I clicked to buy a staker it told me i didn't have enough money, and it will generate deposit addresses for me to buy ions via other, usable coins that people actually would want to use. Gravity is still very imminent is there a dictionary that us outsiders can use to translate whatever language you guys are speaking into english? |
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