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This is how "the same" has stayed since the PR announcement: 33678, high (immediately upon announcement), 29500 (current). With minimal volume also.
Kicking ass indeed.
And that's not even counting the "effect" of the launching of The Foundation and it's site.
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Idiocy indeed knows no boundaries.
In market terms, when the price goes lower it is called "selling" or "no buyers". When the price goes higher, the opposite applies'
Not even your ass is smart enough to know where and how to dump...
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I got a lot done today and I decided to take a quick break and read the funny comments.
In the other thread I am being painted as "crazy".
In this thread in am being painted as an "inside trader".
If creativity and passion = crazy then I am very crazy.
I did not acquire my BlackCoins by participating in insider trading. I dumped my load of MintCoins and bought BlackCoins.
Unfortunately I am starting to see the same delusional behavior the Mint community exhibited months ago. Lets say I am crazy and I made everything up. Lets say I am "bat shit" crazy.
The dev team announced they hired one of the most well known PR firms with a reputation for representing top technology companies. For the crypto world this is some pretty amazing news, but the price of BlackCoin just briefly shot up and then quickly settled. For a moment I actually thought it was a pump.
Why did it quickly settle? Is someone suppressing the price? Are people just exiting? Has BlackCoin peaked?
By the time the PR firm gets up to speed it will be approximately 60 days from now. 60 days in crypto is a very long time. 60 coins would have been launched by then.
When I was pushing BlackCoin and told everyone we had to hit the ground running and never look back I sincerely meant it. But unfortunately other coins caught up quickly because focus wasn't where it should have been.
As I pointed out to someone in PM earlier today. Crypto is the only industry I know of where unemployed adults with no experience in finance or business are allowed to maintain multi-million dollar projects and no one cares.
Isn't it quite telling? Not only the (always imminent) launch of multipool V2, not only the maybe-may-not-be draw of the Titan and not only the big PR firm hiring... and yet... somehow, no one seems to be buying and every minimal spike is quickly run over with a flood of tens of thousands of coins dumping. I find it quite telling, now that I know The Black Hand is controlling the whole shebang: See, buying up here has already proven to be "dangerous" for "The Black Hand". Above 30, it's rather time to dump instead. It would have looked great for everyone if the announcement of the PR would have lifted the price to 40+, so I am sure some minimal funds were destined to pump that idea but within minutes, whatever the allotment, was quickly drowned, so back to the master plan of orderly dumping because, you know, there's a lot to dump. Millions in fact. And at 800 BTC a day total volume, that is quite a tall order... The Black Hand may be the only organized group with access to inside info, but it is not the only group trading on BC and maybe not the only one dumping on BC. But, to the sheep, what really counts is that 30 is not broken and will not be broken significantly. Not with the pr announcement, not with the maybe-maybe-not Titan draw, not with V2 of the pool that won't even remotely attract the number of miners and hashing power V1 had at it's peak -it remains at basically 20% that-, so 20% inflows in the market have a much lower impact than 100%, 1/5 to be precise. The "buying pressure" effect, has all but disappeared from that front so the dumping has to be supported by the market. THAT is why 30 is such a tough nut to crack. The cat's out of the hat in crypto world, everyone already knows there's official manipulation in place. More and more people refuses to play a rigged game. |
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If it talks like a duck and walks like a duck...
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There still hasn't been any proof whatsoever and people are following blindly..
Sigh
You may have chosen to ignore it but not only has already been publicly accepted that there's an organized group of investors, with contracts drawn and papers signed, operating in cahoots with the dev team AND TheDOGE's Multipool (they are funding the Titan lottery if it is to happen). This all has been admitted, in the open. These are the people who control what is bought, what is dumped and when. These are the people (I call them The Black Hand because it is a mafia) who have the game rigged. They are behind the massive dump from 90k and behind every other dump. OK? Understand now? This is, again, and organized, legally contracted group of investors than manipulate the price with the approval, consensus and participation of the dev team. There's no need of proof, they have openly admitted it. As it is OK. Once again, in the real world, these people would be in jail after having plead guilty to conspiracy to defraud. Are there OTHER organized groups out there trying to manipulate -or manipulating- BC's price and other alts? Sure there are. Why not? Tweeter groups, Facebook groups, outside of social media groups, investment clubs... of course. They are all LEGIT, get the difference? They do not have inside information, like The Black Hand does. They don't have millions and millions of shares to dump when their inside information and their orchestrated pumps (with their money and that of the people mining at the multipool) set up the proper moment to do it at the expense of the sheep... the picture, by their own admission, for the third time, cannot be clearer. But, I know, you just do not want to see it. Hey, it's your money pal. Tic... tic... tic... |
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so, the "black hand group" has 7.5 million and IE and his pump crew (investors, lol) have roughly 6 million. This still leaves over 60 MILLION BC out there split up among normal crypto enthusiasts and serious investors. That is 80% of the BC market that is not under any nefarious hands controls. IDK what Iconic thought he would prove with that information but it really doesnt have the impact that you or him thought it would. Other than destroying his credibility and those who support him. It's business as usual with BC and like it or not nobody cares that a bunch of people who have been working for the growth of the coin from the very beginning have large holdings. Im sorry but nobody cares, in fact I give them kudos. They worked hard and deserve their reward. Stop being so jealous. Put in hard work someday and maybe youll see that thats what happens
Is it that you chose to appear confuse, naive or you are just pulling our collective legs? "crypto enthusiasts" and "serious investors". You really think that "serious investors" will touch this thing with a tent pole? Oh you do? Well that tells you just how deluded you are. By "serious investors" perhaps you mean a group or groups of people with an average disposable capital of less than 1% the average amount in the average 401k in the US, scamming one way or another, other "crypto enthusiasts" (i.e.; greedy losers investing their weekly allowance)? Is that what you mean? Regardless... I cannot know what kind of "impact" IE expected; I knew (and told) very well the kind of "impact" it would have... even if he were to present certified evidence of every single one of his claims, irrefutable, triple corroborated proof: None whatsoever. 95% of the so called "crypto enthusiasts and serious investors" would continue blindly following the tic... tic... tic... path to the final burn, guided by greed and delusion, completely oblivious to the fact that they were, are and will continue stealing their lunches. And, of course, they would give them kudos, like you do. Not for the "hard work" -you cannot even fathom what "hard work" means but in the wise words of George Clooney, I would illustrate you a bit: Hard work is selling insurance door to door-, but for actually stealing. Jealous? Nah, stealing is actually easy so if I actually would be interested in that line of work I'd do it way more brilliantly than these clumsy bastards. Not my calling though, to each its own I guess. Almost out of this ponzi and on to the next already (doing pretty well in CINNI, in case you are wondering). Have seen the movie almost as many times as Casablanca (I hold the unofficial world record) and therefore I know how it ends. A hint: Tic... tic... tic... |
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I think IconicExpert is a great marketer but the exposure of the facts will hurt and perhaps kill the coin.
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
What facts? so far all I saw was Iconic prove that someone asked him to lie to mintcoin people. Nothing else was substantiated at all. I have been here since day 1. Also whoever said BC was premined is way out of line. Perhaps they do not know that premining means that only one or maybe a couple people are given access to live wallets while everyone else waits for a password. Those few mine a SET amount and then release the wallets live for everyone to mine. He stated that several TENS OF MILLIONS were premined, but it was a PUBLIC, open mining period of 7 days. periodmark my words tho, very next post will say "dont listen to him, hes got a new account" like someones posting habits mean anything at all. If anything, seeing bloated numbers like some of your followers ranting and raving all day means nothing even if you have 1 or 2 hundred posts. Watch this get swept under a rug. Also, name the group that came forward about the hack of the multipool and maybe you can save some face. As it stands you look like someone crying wolf with NO FACTS to back it up, other than one guy sayin you should mislead mintcoin people. I bet you dont even know who it was, you just said you did to give yourself some cred edit #2, watch Iconic say I have already answered this question. and me combing through ALL of his posts in the last 96 hours found NO EVIDENCE whatsoever about his claims. and anytime someone asks, he just says I have already answered that. to distract while they go dig through posts to find nothing at all. Well then I was the one out of line... if you make that distinction. Let's see: A new shitcoin that no one has ever heard of gives 7 days of practically no difficulty for everyone to mine (with a decent rig you could easily mine 1 million coins per day) and because is "public" -meaning about 20-30 miners have heard of it- is not pre-mined? OK. Under that semantic interpretation, I guess it wasn't. Of course if should be relatively easy to determine who mined what on those days and if some of those wallets have disappeared of are without any BC now, clearly see who mined how much. But since I am not going to do that myself and at the risk of being very wrong I am just going to assume that a close circle (or group, as it were) distributed among themselves the vas majority of the bounty, ok? Of course you are free to believe I am out of line in this and anything else you choose. I mined from the first minute it launched with 5.7Mh/s. I'd been at the launch of loads of coins leading up to that and was expecting a nice amount of early mining reward - had got my ninja wallet opening/bat files prepared skills finely tuned at that point so I could jump in literally within seconds of launch - but really didn't get the instant reward I'd hoped with BC. The KGW kicked in straight away. I was very lucky to get two solo blocks (20,000 coins) in the first few minutes and then spent much of the rest of the PoW week buying coins at CryptoAltex (the only exchange it was on) because it was so difficult to mine. I saw the network hashrate during the week at over 20Gh/s, I've seen others say it got to 40 - I believe it's possible to check that in the blockchain. My trade history at CryptoAltex shows buys between 1300-2800 Sats between 26-28th Feb. By the end of the week I had about 40k coins, then PoW ended, the price wobbled and then crashed to around 500sats for a good week. It wasn't a 1M coins a day DOGE/PANDA/MEOW experience or anything like that. It was, actually, for some. I can easily point you out to somebody that has publicly stated that he mined it for 8 hours and got 520,000 BCs on that time. I do not know what kind of equipment he had and assume a pretty decent one, but I have no more reason to doubt him that I would to doubt you. Like I said, for those really interested, perhaps the blockchain could dissipate any doubts. Denying something based on your personal experience only shows that perhaps you has a very small rig by comparison, not that other people did not, as they may claim, mined millions of coins in those seven days. I'm sure several did. Jebus, still here, Jerry Fletcher? I asked you in th old thread: who was that guy with the 520k, where and when did he say that? of course no answer. And even if it is true that someone was boasting that: you keep telling us that no one ever tells the truth in this game, but that was surely for real? c'mon, take your pills and get a job or something else that keeps you away from posting novels here every 10 minutes. On a normal basis, I just won't engage idiots so consider this a total exception because it more than probably won't happen again, ok? Idiots that, on top of it, never ever bring anything of substance to the table, even less. That would be you in case it is not clear enough. In the old thread, idiot, I did not have the chance to answer... it is closed. You want to know who claimed, and posted, to have mined 520,000 BC in 8 hours? Look for him, lazy bum. He posts on the Mint forum. Now go look... Clarifying: I don't ever tell YOU anything. Like I say, I just don't deal with idiots... have I said already that I consider you a total idiot? just in case: I do. Aggressive, what do you fucking expect, mf? And by the way "fiftyseven" I am sorry if I came too strong towards you (I didn't think I was or intended to). But this is the kind of idiot I have to deal with here more often than not and some levels of imbecility are just too much to not get me going. Once again, sorry if you perceived me that way, it wasn't my intention at all. |
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I just looked back at my post history from launch day onwards and it confirms what I've just remembered, there's also a getmininginfo output during PoW I pasted showing over 50GH/s net hash, also that I stated from the rich list page after a few days, over 2000BC addresses had a balance. I believe that at the end of PoW, between 5-6k addresses had some BC.
I don't doubt there were some big miners in there, I recall Hashcows admitted to mining it for a while in there too - all I can say is that if anyone accumulated millions purely by PoW they must have really believed in the coin and invested an obscene amount of money in hashpower as it was just one of half a dozen launches that week and there was no obvious indication it was going to be any more successful than others.
Just how much money would you consider "obscene" for a 7 day rental? Ball park, so I have an idea... And do you think that the team that brought the coin out could have invested that supposedly "obscene" amount (what, $1k, 2K, 5k???) on the outside chance the coin would get any kind of value eventually? I mean, since you have records already, why don't you check those and tells us which other shitcoins came out that week just to see how many of those got to any kind of worthy valuation? But, besides your personal records, why not investigate the Blockchain itself? Everything is sure to be there, isn't it? Why speculate when the ledger if supposed to have all this info in a very clear way, not only where went the coins when but where went they from there too. I'm no expert at all, but it seems to me relatively easy to follow that trail and thus eliminate all doubts. Of course it is way easier to just join the chorus is that's what one really want to do, right? |
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I think IconicExpert is a great marketer but the exposure of the facts will hurt and perhaps kill the coin.
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
What facts? so far all I saw was Iconic prove that someone asked him to lie to mintcoin people. Nothing else was substantiated at all. I have been here since day 1. Also whoever said BC was premined is way out of line. Perhaps they do not know that premining means that only one or maybe a couple people are given access to live wallets while everyone else waits for a password. Those few mine a SET amount and then release the wallets live for everyone to mine. He stated that several TENS OF MILLIONS were premined, but it was a PUBLIC, open mining period of 7 days. periodmark my words tho, very next post will say "dont listen to him, hes got a new account" like someones posting habits mean anything at all. If anything, seeing bloated numbers like some of your followers ranting and raving all day means nothing even if you have 1 or 2 hundred posts. Watch this get swept under a rug. Also, name the group that came forward about the hack of the multipool and maybe you can save some face. As it stands you look like someone crying wolf with NO FACTS to back it up, other than one guy sayin you should mislead mintcoin people. I bet you dont even know who it was, you just said you did to give yourself some cred edit #2, watch Iconic say I have already answered this question. and me combing through ALL of his posts in the last 96 hours found NO EVIDENCE whatsoever about his claims. and anytime someone asks, he just says I have already answered that. to distract while they go dig through posts to find nothing at all. Well then I was the one out of line... if you make that distinction. Let's see: A new shitcoin that no one has ever heard of gives 7 days of practically no difficulty for everyone to mine (with a decent rig you could easily mine 1 million coins per day) and because is "public" -meaning about 20-30 miners have heard of it- is not pre-mined? OK. Under that semantic interpretation, I guess it wasn't. Of course if should be relatively easy to determine who mined what on those days and if some of those wallets have disappeared of are without any BC now, clearly see who mined how much. But since I am not going to do that myself and at the risk of being very wrong I am just going to assume that a close circle (or group, as it were) distributed among themselves the vas majority of the bounty, ok? Of course you are free to believe I am out of line in this and anything else you choose. Now as for the rest of your post, I'm sure IE will be more than glad to state things as they are which, as a witness, I know are very different from what you pretend. He was offered, in front of a witness, on IRC, to "play ball". By the Black Hand Group. If that wasn't enough, he has stated, many times already, that one insider, within the group, has contacted him with all the lurid details of the group's activities, including the detail of the 7.5 million coin common holding. He has also stated repeatedly that he will not throw his informer under the bus and that if/when he/she decides to come forward it would be not because he is pushing for him/her to do so. Now you can call that lack of proof or (way more appropriately) Deep Throat but, in any case, it is far from what you pretend it to be. you obviously know nothing about the mining process or what it entails. You are ASSUMING everything you say but, like IE, you have NO EVIDENCE... also theres this thing called KGW. im not going to explain it to you but it makes what you claim IMPOSSIBLE to do. you're basing all this off ONE guy who mined half a mil arent you? Either you or IE provide some actual proof or continue being charlatans and crying wolf. Also your argument about the group having 7 million BC is a fallacy because IE's rogues gallery also has about the same holdings. IE stated himself that he and his wife hold over 2 million BC. So your argument applies to him as well, oh wait you didnt know that because you rant and rant but have no facts to back it up. Everything I have said is backed up by FACTS. Everything you said was your assumption. You are very confused there. I stated, and repeat, that a guy publicly, posted that he had mined 520,000 coins (BC) in 8 hours. That's not an assumption, that's a post. By a guy with some credibility (unlike you, choir-boy). What IE posted was the The Black Hand (my naming) group controls 7.5 million BC (not 7 mill). That, again, is a fact (the statement, the post). I don't know what IE owns or "his group" controls but there's a HUUUUGE difference whether they control 6 million of 50 million: They are not in cahoots with the dev team. I know for you that is irrelevant but that, pal, makes the WHOLE hill of beans of difference. And would have already put them in jail in the real world, by the way. Got it now? |
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I think IconicExpert is a great marketer but the exposure of the facts will hurt and perhaps kill the coin.
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
What facts? so far all I saw was Iconic prove that someone asked him to lie to mintcoin people. Nothing else was substantiated at all. I have been here since day 1. Also whoever said BC was premined is way out of line. Perhaps they do not know that premining means that only one or maybe a couple people are given access to live wallets while everyone else waits for a password. Those few mine a SET amount and then release the wallets live for everyone to mine. He stated that several TENS OF MILLIONS were premined, but it was a PUBLIC, open mining period of 7 days. periodmark my words tho, very next post will say "dont listen to him, hes got a new account" like someones posting habits mean anything at all. If anything, seeing bloated numbers like some of your followers ranting and raving all day means nothing even if you have 1 or 2 hundred posts. Watch this get swept under a rug. Also, name the group that came forward about the hack of the multipool and maybe you can save some face. As it stands you look like someone crying wolf with NO FACTS to back it up, other than one guy sayin you should mislead mintcoin people. I bet you dont even know who it was, you just said you did to give yourself some cred edit #2, watch Iconic say I have already answered this question. and me combing through ALL of his posts in the last 96 hours found NO EVIDENCE whatsoever about his claims. and anytime someone asks, he just says I have already answered that. to distract while they go dig through posts to find nothing at all. Well then I was the one out of line... if you make that distinction. Let's see: A new shitcoin that no one has ever heard of gives 7 days of practically no difficulty for everyone to mine (with a decent rig you could easily mine 1 million coins per day) and because is "public" -meaning about 20-30 miners have heard of it- is not pre-mined? OK. Under that semantic interpretation, I guess it wasn't. Of course if should be relatively easy to determine who mined what on those days and if some of those wallets have disappeared of are without any BC now, clearly see who mined how much. But since I am not going to do that myself and at the risk of being very wrong I am just going to assume that a close circle (or group, as it were) distributed among themselves the vas majority of the bounty, ok? Of course you are free to believe I am out of line in this and anything else you choose. I mined from the first minute it launched with 5.7Mh/s. I'd been at the launch of loads of coins leading up to that and was expecting a nice amount of early mining reward - had got my ninja wallet opening/bat files prepared skills finely tuned at that point so I could jump in literally within seconds of launch - but really didn't get the instant reward I'd hoped with BC. The KGW kicked in straight away. I was very lucky to get two solo blocks (20,000 coins) in the first few minutes and then spent much of the rest of the PoW week buying coins at CryptoAltex (the only exchange it was on) because it was so difficult to mine. I saw the network hashrate during the week at over 20Gh/s, I've seen others say it got to 40 - I believe it's possible to check that in the blockchain. My trade history at CryptoAltex shows buys between 1300-2800 Sats between 26-28th Feb. By the end of the week I had about 40k coins, then PoW ended, the price wobbled and then crashed to around 500sats for a good week. It wasn't a 1M coins a day DOGE/PANDA/MEOW experience or anything like that. It was, actually, for some. I can easily point you out to somebody that has publicly stated that he mined it for 8 hours and got 520,000 BCs on that time. I do not know what kind of equipment he had and assume a pretty decent one, but I have no more reason to doubt him that I would to doubt you. Like I said, for those really interested, perhaps the blockchain could dissipate any doubts. Denying something based on your personal experience only shows that perhaps you has a very small rig by comparison, not that other people did not, as they may claim, mined millions of coins in those seven days. I'm sure several did. |
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I think IconicExpert is a great marketer but the exposure of the facts will hurt and perhaps kill the coin.
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
What facts? so far all I saw was Iconic prove that someone asked him to lie to mintcoin people. Nothing else was substantiated at all. I have been here since day 1. Also whoever said BC was premined is way out of line. Perhaps they do not know that premining means that only one or maybe a couple people are given access to live wallets while everyone else waits for a password. Those few mine a SET amount and then release the wallets live for everyone to mine. He stated that several TENS OF MILLIONS were premined, but it was a PUBLIC, open mining period of 7 days. periodmark my words tho, very next post will say "dont listen to him, hes got a new account" like someones posting habits mean anything at all. If anything, seeing bloated numbers like some of your followers ranting and raving all day means nothing even if you have 1 or 2 hundred posts. Watch this get swept under a rug. Also, name the group that came forward about the hack of the multipool and maybe you can save some face. As it stands you look like someone crying wolf with NO FACTS to back it up, other than one guy sayin you should mislead mintcoin people. I bet you dont even know who it was, you just said you did to give yourself some cred edit #2, watch Iconic say I have already answered this question. and me combing through ALL of his posts in the last 96 hours found NO EVIDENCE whatsoever about his claims. and anytime someone asks, he just says I have already answered that. to distract while they go dig through posts to find nothing at all. Well then I was the one out of line... if you make that distinction. Let's see: A new shitcoin that no one has ever heard of gives 7 days of practically no difficulty for everyone to mine (with a decent rig you could easily mine 1 million coins per day) and because is "public" -meaning about 20-30 miners have heard of it- is not pre-mined? OK. Under that semantic interpretation, I guess it wasn't. Of course if should be relatively easy to determine who mined what on those days and if some of those wallets have disappeared of are without any BC now, clearly see who mined how much. But since I am not going to do that myself and at the risk of being very wrong I am just going to assume that a close circle (or group, as it were) distributed among themselves the vas majority of the bounty, ok? Of course you are free to believe I am out of line in this and anything else you choose. Now as for the rest of your post, I'm sure IE will be more than glad to state things as they are which, as a witness, I know are very different from what you pretend. He was offered, in front of a witness, on IRC, to "play ball". By the Black Hand Group. If that wasn't enough, he has stated, many times already, that one insider, within the group, has contacted him with all the lurid details of the group's activities, including the detail of the 7.5 million coin common holding. He has also stated repeatedly that he will not throw his informer under the bus and that if/when he/she decides to come forward it would be not because he is pushing for him/her to do so. Now you can call that lack of proof or (way more appropriately) Deep Throat but, in any case, it is far from what you pretend it to be. |
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So, the sociopath soepkip now supports the wall st effort on there new thread, he's publicly posting it under his screen name. After such a silence from him, and not supporting it, or just barely enough to keep credit, he's now supporting IE's post on wall st. Reposting it under his name.
I feel there is a fishy plot going on, and he's up to something cause he's seeing IE's posts about losing faith in BC, just to throw this in his face. Timing is priceless for these punks.
Well nothing new is really "fishy". If IE continues with the Wall Street march of Bimbos, they really have nothing to lose since if it is not successful (and that has a wide range of interpretations), they have distanced themselves officially so it would be dismissed at "the project of the lunatic", while if it is very successful (basically if the price moves up significantly as a consequence), first they will take the opportunity to massively dump their coins -which is and will always remains purpose number 1- while minimizing, publicly, the impact of the success. And even if after their massive dumping the thing shows legs, they will say that they publicly supported it. Win-win, regardless. Nothing fishy there. For your information, since you seem so very interested, the individual in charge of social media seems to be now "maarx" who is significantly more mature than Soepkip and about 100 times more intelligent, not to mention one of the key components of The Black Hand. But remember, the one calling the shots is TheDOGE. ALL the shots. Including the one by which The Black Hand finances the Titan -if it ever comes to happen- which is "only" to the benefit of the Multi-pool that, as we all know is owned, 50/50, by TheDOGE and St.GNU, a separate business from BlackCoin entirely and designated, by decree, by TheDoge, as the pool of -only- choice for those mining BC. Of note is that, previous to the "break-up", the business of the pool was going south in a hurry. Attack or no attack. And continues so having gone from over 10GHs of power at peak times -several- to barely 2GHs at the moment, roughly 20% of what it was. Obviously the buying power of BC has decreased ikn the exact same % (by almost 80%) therefore the "support of the price" -not to mention the profits for TheDOGE and St.GNU have decreased accordingly, whatever effect you choose to assign to the former. Although upon demise it will be blamed on the break-up of the community, the truth is that this circumstance has nothing whatsoever to do with the miserable failure that, so far, the multipool has been of late, DDOs attack and all. Now the ra-ra choir (here and there) doesn't want any dosage of reality, they just want BC to break 35 at Mintpal, so push hard ok? It may very well happen. It seem that it will need quite a bit more than signing a contract with that PR agency in Miami to maybe get a couple of press releases and a bylined "story" on some nerd magazine. Do not worry, V2 of the pool, that resounding success, is about to hit the ground running and "there's a lot more" they are so much working on all of them that practically none has time to post on IRC these days... |
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I came to show my respect for Iconic, I always support him, and this will not be different now, I hope we can make blackcoin better.
me too +1 Oh that's easy -because "better" is an euphemism, right? what you mean is more expensive...- It's just a matter of "buying them out", like Mole Green. You jujst have to buy their coins, the price will go up and everyone happy. It will require a buying power of 7. million BC but maybe a public pump... |
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Never was premined, unless you consider the 7 day period a premine available to everyone a premine.
Wasn't the first PoS, indeed it was, based on waht I've read, but I may be wrong on that one.
Again TO MY KNOWLEDGE, it is the fastest and greenest.
And by your definition, all coins based slightly on bitcoin protocol are clones and shitcoins per your words, including litecoin.
Did I get that right??
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You have got to be kidding me! At this stage of the game I wouldn't miss a minute of it for all the tea in China... Oh and it isn't opinion, it's facts. How so? From my reading of what you have posted, it seems like unsubstantiated opinionated hot air. From browsing the forums, nothing has been proved, not by the foundation, not by IE, not by you or any of the other. To me, it's all speculation. That's my opinion based on what I've read and seen from day 1. Opinion, not fact. BTW, I have been here from day 1. We are obviously talking about different things. I am talking about the (snipped) contents of my most recent post. Those are demonstrable facts, regarding the coin, anyone can corroborate at will. But to make it clear, I will repeat them: -- Yes it was PRE MINED -- No, it wasn't the first POS -- No, it isn't the fastest -- No it isn't the greener. -- Yes it it just another, of many, open implementations of the Bitcoin protocol. In your opinion what would be the "perfect" coin? In terms of features, distribution...etc..etc There are several that have staying power and could fit the bill but a polished Litecoin will fit the bill of one with (remote) chances for mainstream. Of the other ones, Dark fit a niche, obviously; so does Solar. I don't know enough but Maid looks interesting and elements of Next and Master. But I am no expert. What I know, just using common sense, is that no clone of LTC is going to ever be better* than the original and that hype and promotion, without merchants acceptance is absolutely meaningless beyond the usual pump and dump scheme. Truth is that no merchant can afford to accept crypto payments if not through BitPay or any of the other services that simply eliminate the potential (financial) advantages of digital currencies. Overstock basically sell shit with outrageous margins and can afford the limited risks, but no serious merchant can ever assume the risks that the volatility of digital currency represents... why would they do it? It wouldn't significantly improve their sales so why do it? You, as a matter of fact, are the perfect example of why it wouldn't possibly work: You get your donations for the Wall Street campaign and turn them into fiat because you don't want to be stuck with a much higher bill if someone decides to dump within the Black Hand Group. Go pay the girls with BC and see how many you get. And even if they would, you would feel terrible if their BC would overnight be halved in value. But your risk is minimal. If you are someone like the Starbucks people, for instance, someone farting twice in China will mean heads rolling at the end of the quarter. why would they do it? what would be the incentive? To attract the demographic of all the nerds in the world that never ever had a real job and at 35 still live in the garage of their parents? There's a clear, obvious, untapped market which is ideal m for cryptos: Applications. Games. All sorts of things. Nothing under $.99 is financially viable because the cards would take 30%+ and neither Apple nor Google nor anyone else would care for splitting the difference with the devs. Obviously a no-expenses crypto transaction would make that possible. And yet, obviously, neither Apple nor Google are rushing to get the untapped potential market of $billions. Why? They know much better than me why so it is evident that I miss some key element in that picture. The other ones are crystal clear. |
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You have got to be kidding me! At this stage of the game I wouldn't miss a minute of it for all the tea in China... Oh and it isn't opinion, it's facts. How so? From my reading of what you have posted, it seems like unsubstantiated opinionated hot air. From browsing the forums, nothing has been proved, not by the foundation, not by IE, not by you or any of the other. To me, it's all speculation. That's my opinion based on what I've read and seen from day 1. Opinion, not fact. BTW, I have been here from day 1. We are obviously talking about different things. I am talking about the (snipped) contents of my most recent post. Those are demonstrable facts, regarding the coin, anyone can corroborate at will. But to make it clear, I will repeat them: -- Yes it was PRE MINED -- No, it wasn't the first POS -- No, it isn't the fastest -- No it isn't the greener. -- Yes it it just another, of many, open implementations of the Bitcoin protocol. |
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Soepkip is a 27 year old change smoker that wears a tin foil hat, and is not mature enough, or has any business or real world experience to be the head of a million dollar coin, that's going even higher. It's like taking the bus boy and making him executive chief at a 5 star restaurant. We don't need him as the face and spokesperson of blackcoin, nor do we need his entanglement with the mob or manipulators. He refused to hand over the keys to facebook, twitter and website, and laughed about it. So let them form an investment group foundation, which I was told it was, that's fact. Not to mention it was changed up so much what this foundation is, it's just horrible idea.
When people like grit or soepkip or doge post something, and have there podcast it shows they are the face of Blackcoin, which is very far from the truth. They are not, they are in there own foundation group. This here is new thread to balance promotions which soepkip in charge of social media should have and didn't do for the coverage we got in articles and wall st promo. I think people here will find the direction to be different and focused on making Blackcoin #1.
IE said he was here long haul and wanting BC to be the #1 crypto, now we can make this happen without the foundation getting in the way.
I don't think you quite grasp what's going on here. First of all, unlike the pretension on top of the boards, including this one, BlackCoin was premined. Heavily. There are a ton, tens of millions of coins probably, that have to be dumped. Many, have already been dumped from 90k down (and earlier). From the get go, there was an organized Group of Investors, aka The Black Hand, controlling everything. Everything with the approval of The DOGE, who is BlackCoin. The dumpings were -and are- orderly. So were the buys (pumps) through the Pool and the members and resources of the group. This is a legally organized group, as we all know now, with contracts signed and agreements drawn. They have rigged the game, understand? This goes way beyond Soepkip who is doing his "extra" bit just fine and Gritt who is in Cambodia (who the fuck cares about anything or anyone from Cambodia, on anything, come on!) The DOGE is the man, Rat4 plays ball and the Black Hands rigs the game. It doesn't matter if there's a Foundation or not. What they cannot afford if IE's messing things up and suggesting the leadership comes up with a plan or he will (and him actually doing it) because that is dangerous and the Black Hand cannot have IE steering up the pot. So they make it official, through the Foundation. Nothing at all will change. The game continues rigged, the players remain the same and the sheep, the same. Except that everything is fully known now and pretty soon people will start exiting this scam, as early as it stays without much volatility or volume and then, simply, the game's up. A clear sign of that the PR announcement has meant ZERO, already, to the dismay of Rat4 who obviously has been promised riches beyond imagination and by now is rethinking the whole hill of beans and will probably eventually send everyone packing or will leave himself when he sees that the riches are purely chimeric and will never materialize. Let me spell it for you and others because you, naturally, refuse to see reality: BlackCoin cannot be "saved". Truth is that is was never either "no premine", nor "the fastest" nor in any way innovative. It was a gloriously beautiful logo and a community blinded by greed on a well orchestrated pump and dump scheme. A Ponzi scheme, in fact. Just another shitcoin implementation of the Bitcoin protocol, not even by far the most technologically advanced, nor the first anything, nor greener than a bunch of others and sadly, like most, lacking the human element behind with the means and knowledge to make it successful. For a brief moment, it had (has -I'm not out yet-) it had a great community -not even on the same page than Doge, mind you- that could, maybe on another reality, have worked quite a miracle. As it is, it's just another little time bomb tic... tic... ticking. So if that's your opinion of the coin then why are you still here? I don't understand your logic for remaining.. You have got to be kidding me! At this stage of the game I wouldn't miss a minute of it for all the tea in China... Oh and it isn't opinion, it's facts. |
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Soepkip is a 27 year old change smoker that wears a tin foil hat, and is not mature enough, or has any business or real world experience to be the head of a million dollar coin, that's going even higher. It's like taking the bus boy and making him executive chief at a 5 star restaurant. We don't need him as the face and spokesperson of blackcoin, nor do we need his entanglement with the mob or manipulators. He refused to hand over the keys to facebook, twitter and website, and laughed about it. So let them form an investment group foundation, which I was told it was, that's fact. Not to mention it was changed up so much what this foundation is, it's just horrible idea.
When people like grit or soepkip or doge post something, and have there podcast it shows they are the face of Blackcoin, which is very far from the truth. They are not, they are in there own foundation group. This here is new thread to balance promotions which soepkip in charge of social media should have and didn't do for the coverage we got in articles and wall st promo. I think people here will find the direction to be different and focused on making Blackcoin #1.
IE said he was here long haul and wanting BC to be the #1 crypto, now we can make this happen without the foundation getting in the way.
I don't think you quite grasp what's going on here. First of all, unlike the pretension on top of the boards, including this one, BlackCoin was premined. Heavily. There are a ton, tens of millions of coins probably, that have to be dumped. Many, have already been dumped from 90k down (and earlier). From the get go, there was an organized Group of Investors, aka The Black Hand, controlling everything. Everything with the approval of The DOGE, who is BlackCoin. The dumpings were -and are- orderly. So were the buys (pumps) through the Pool and the members and resources of the group. This is a legally organized group, as we all know now, with contracts signed and agreements drawn. They have rigged the game, understand? This goes way beyond Soepkip who is doing his "extra" bit just fine and Gritt who is in Cambodia (who the fuck cares about anything or anyone from Cambodia, on anything, come on!) The DOGE is the man, Rat4 plays ball and the Black Hands rigs the game. It doesn't matter if there's a Foundation or not. What they cannot afford if IE's messing things up and suggesting the leadership comes up with a plan or he will (and him actually doing it) because that is dangerous and the Black Hand cannot have IE steering up the pot. So they make it official, through the Foundation. Nothing at all will change. The game continues rigged, the players remain the same and the sheep, the same. Except that everything is fully known now and pretty soon people will start exiting this scam, as early as it stays without much volatility or volume and then, simply, the game's up. A clear sign of that the PR announcement has meant ZERO, already, to the dismay of Rat4 who obviously has been promised riches beyond imagination and by now is rethinking the whole hill of beans and will probably eventually send everyone packing or will leave himself when he sees that the riches are purely chimeric and will never materialize. Let me spell it for you and others because you, naturally, refuse to see reality: BlackCoin cannot be "saved". Truth is that is was never either "no premine", nor "the fastest" nor in any way innovative. It was a gloriously beautiful logo and a community blinded by greed on a well orchestrated pump and dump scheme. A Ponzi scheme, in fact. Just another shitcoin implementation of the Bitcoin protocol, not even by far the most technologically advanced, nor the first anything, nor greener than a bunch of others and sadly, like most, lacking the human element behind with the means and knowledge to make it successful. For a brief moment, it had (has -I'm not out yet-) it had a great community -not even on the same page than Doge, mind you- that could, maybe on another reality, have worked quite a miracle. As it is, it's just another little time bomb tic... tic... ticking. |
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TIC... TIC... TIC...
While it has been more than a week already since we were told that the Multipool V2 would be shiny and ready in a week at the most, still it is not. And it has been already over a week that we were told the "back end" was working perfectly that it was just the front end that needed the work to look all efficient, innovative and pretty ... well, the miners still don't have access to their stats...
Not surprisingly, miners are not breaking their necks in pointing their rigs to the multipool. About 1100 miners, it seems, in total, are mining some 2 and change Gigabytes. Mind you, one of the requirements for the Titan (KnC, remember who sits on that board, look for him in another post here if you are unaware of his circumstances) promotion, is that the Pool would have a much bigger volume, as a matter of fact, a more than triple, current volume. Will the Titan be drawn at all?
Oh I'm sure The (Black Hand) Group will be able to circumvent the requirements, even if they have to tap into ColinFX for it, so mine away.
I need this to rally; a I have a few coins to dump while it tics... tic... tic...
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What is going to happen with the Wall street event?
Interesting question... in more ways than one: --"The (Black Hand) Group" unofficially but very publicly, supports the idea. -- IE has the means and the determination to see it through. -- I can see the headline: "Bitcoin Bimbos Take In Wall Street!" (Yes Bitcoin not Blackcoin). -- It will not help the cause of BlackCoin in any measurable way. -- But IE and his bimbos will have pictures and videos everywhere. I'm going to be a very amused witness of the thing indeed. |
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