apparently dashcoin was bought by evan
He didn't buy mine. +1 evan purchased dashcoin from slb to acquire dashcoin dev accounts and basically remove the developer of dashcoin. leaving the community without a dev would and encourage the death of dashcoin. this is a dirty tactic from evan the darkcoin developer to steal the name dashcoin. Its probably a bit more complicated than that. In order to have trademark rights you have to be using the mark in commerce. To oppose the registration by someone else he has to say that he has a "product" called dashcoin and the attempted registration interferes with his use of the term dashcoin for his product. Now given that he's said dashcoin is abandoned, I don't know how that factors into this. Dashcoin community members might consider respectfully reaching out to the company (a startup I believe) that is attempting to register dash as a trademark (the one Evan is opposing) and work with them. does having a market at poloniex count as commerce? people are buying and selling them.. any link to the company you are referring? i would like to take a look at it.
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apparently dashcoin was bought by evan
He didn't buy mine. +1 evan purchased dashcoin from slb to acquire dashcoin dev accounts and basically remove the developer of dashcoin. leaving the community without a dev would encourage the death of dashcoin. this is a dirty tactic from evan the darkcoin developer to steal the name dashcoin. edit: well evan i won't be contributing to your murder of my dashcoin. your darkcoin won't get far having blood on its hands.
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before i'm going to sleep..here is some nice read for you guys. There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. day 1 person a: what is DASH? dark guy: digital cash..etc. etc. person a: what is digital cash? dark guy: well.....it is a cryptocurrency like bitcoin and litecoin person a: so it is a coin? dark guy:...yyyyyyes.. day 2 person a: hey person b i heard there is a coin out there named DASH, it claims to be anonymous etc. person b: so how much is this DASH coin? a piece?.. person a: 3 bucks..... (person b buys) day 3 person b: hey person c i bought some DASHcoin it is 3 bucks a piece, bought 10..that's 30 bucks person c: WHAT! fucking rip off...i bought 10 million dashcoins for 1$ at poloniex.com LOL the original dashcoin logo proposed DASH
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interesting.. dark propaganda are claiming dashcoin is dead https://darkcointalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/page-13#post-46922Sorry this isn't really written as a presentation, but it's basically everything I know:
Once upon a time, a young developer named Evan Duffield decided to create a cryptographic coin. He came to the conclusion that someone needed to make a new coin to protect privacy because it had recently been realized that Bitcoin was only pseudo-private, and that the developers and foundation for Bitcoin had no intentions of fixing this. So he realized that to start a new coin, he would need a slow build up of hashing from many people. He knew that ASICS which had just started shipping a month or two before, were going to make it very difficult to attract miners if he were to compete with all the other sha-256 algorithmic coins. At the same time, he realized, as well as many others, that a lot of equipment, such as cpu and gpu power had just been rendered obsolete. Just as Litecoin before, Evan decided to create a new hashing algorithm.
Before Evan created X11, a multi algorithmic chain for hashing, which combined 11 algortithms in a chain, another developer created a similar hash of 5 or 5 algorithms. I forgot it’s name. So the idea was there, but Evan thought adding all the algorithms he knew of into a chain would slow down the development of ASICS that much longer. Because he called his grouped algorithm X-11, he decided to call his coin XCOIN.
Soon it was realized that there was a site called xcoin.com which had just closed down. It was a scam site that stole coins from people. Since the community didn’t want to be associated with these people, they voted to name our coin Darkcoin. All was well until we began getting complaints that the name Darkcoin sounded like the coin was made for nefarious purposes. The community tried and tried to explain that the name was 1. A play against the #2 coin, Litecoin, and 2. the saying “keep ‘em in the dark” which means don’t tell anyone, it’s a secret. Even so, some of the community decided it would be best for Darkcoin to concentrate on the “underworld” and “dark markets” etc… Unfortunately, Evan never wanted to create a coin meant for the dark markets, he wanted to create something closer to cash, something that protected people’s right to privacy. Although Evan has been against a name change for most of this first year of Darkcoin's life, he finally realized that it was not just a few people who have been approached about working with Darkcoin (Merchants, investors, etc…) but pretty much all of them. Even those that accepted DRK at their stores, such as BigCanadar, complained that customers just laughed at the thought of a coin named Darkcoin, and never became interested enough to inquire further about it. So this past week, it seems Evan has changed his mind. But why so abruptly?
As it happened, the last time the community was arguing over the name, the tide seemed to have swung in the direction of a name change. However, as you can see by this past week, we were at each other’s throats, yelling and screaming and designing and coming up with names, etc… In all that chaos, someone had mentioned Dashcoin because InstantX had just been invented. Most of the community rallied behind that name, and so apparently, Evan made a note of it. But to us, he wanted to stop all the arguments, so he said that there would be no name change, which I'm sure he meant. That was that, and the community settled back into it’s normal banter.
So apparently since then, Evan and the foundation members, of which I am not one, have been discussing the need for a new name. They also concluded Dash may be the best alternative, especially if we want to keep the logo that was incredibly difficult to get consensus on as well. But there were complications. There was already a dashcoin. So they had to figure out if the idea could even take hold. I believe we have a European and an American Lawyer in the Darkcoin Foundation, and they have been clearing the way for the right to use the name, DASH. But why did Evan drop this “bomb” on us so abruptly?
It was due to a silly little mistake. Evan had made a deal with the old “Dashcoin” developer (who had abandoned the project a while back). I don’t know what the deal was, but the Dashcoin developer gave Evan the “keys” to the old Dashcoin account on github. Evan simply closed it down, or “locked the door”. The coin could still be forked, it could continue as a fork, but it would be a new project if it were forked. And while “inside” that Dashcoin account at github, Evan commented on the Darkcoin github thread. By doing so, he posted as the Dashcoin Developer, and it was obvious it was Evan. Anyone could see what happened so there were a lot of questions. Why was Evan in possession of a Dashcoin Developer account?
So to clarify everything to everyone, he decided to announce that the foundation was planning on changing the name of Darkcoin, and because Dashcoin was a favorite a few months ago, they were looking into the feasibility of acquiring the name Dashcoin. I believe, but am not sure, that the trademark “dash” for a coin was not being pursued by the Dashcoin that Evan acquired but is the name another company is attempting to trademark, and in such a way that Darkcoin would want it used. (There are many trademarks for Dash, just not as a currency or payment system, at least not at this time). So, the lawyers are saying it looks like we can trademark the name DASH, and that there isn’t much the old dash community can do about their abandoned coin, not legally. They can fork it and make it a new project, but the old name goes with the old project, which is dead and the Darkcoin Foundation is in the process of trademarking the name.
The rest is just everyone arguing. edit: anytime soon evan must be planning to lock this thread.
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You both come from monero thread cmon You Just do a big drama , lol. Shaking the whole crypto... And don't redirect me to your dumb ass thread on speculation section well...been here since july, 2014 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg7778898#msg7778898anyway, anybody can say what they want..specially if they have a point like arcticmine @nachoig seen that online green stuff a couple of days already...still nothing
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This is going to now open a huge can of worms in the DRK community...
Lol nothing. If we have buy it,we can kill it,thats it,its crypto,a still wild far west,anyways,this coin goes no where. or - Lets take over by the community,but you can't evidently take dashcoin for rebrand your wild west analogy, does not apply here...to the community what if somebody offers 50 million $ to evan and said fuck off with your darkcoin shit, and he left..what you and the community gonna do? edit: this dashcoin debacle is shaking the very roots of crypto currency. bitcoin, litecoin even darkcoin..you should have known better.
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Guys, all I was saying was that the activity here was low no need to be so literal. It seems like it was the general feeling here for a while now. The name thing with DRK was just a coincidence please be reasonable I was just trying to be friendly, no need to make it so hard for me. I have to go now the wife is waiting. Good luck. This thread is so inactive now Does Dev abandon this coin?? Dev has abandoned this coin? I don't see any progress of DSH development in the past months. I haven't seen any roadmap about DSH from Dev so far .....
Dev,any further development plan for 2015 ? no activity here let's play some betting guys, on May 2, Mayweather vs Pacquiao boxing match i have 100M dsh for mayweather...wanna bet? who will escrow? WTF with this coin? Dev is doing nothing like dead,if so,why you release a coin ,FXXK YOU !!!!!!!!! this is still activity if you ask me...from almost no activity to low activity, that's an improvement..besides you pick and choose.. activity is not limited to bitcointalk, there is an IRC, trading at polo and miners.. i highly doubt this is a coincidence...it is very unlikely a dev of a coin would go to another dev and ask: hey do you like the name of my coin? wanna buy?...more like i (dark devs) like your coin name and we are planning to re brand to DASH, your coin name (dashcoin) is getting on the way, can we buy it? and kill it so we are the only DASH around here day 1 person a: what is DASH? dark guy: digital cash..etc. etc. person a: what is digital cash? dark guy: well.....it is a cryptocurrency like bitcoin and litecoin person a: so it is a coin? dark guy:...yyyyyyes.. day 2 person a: hey person b i heard there is a coin out there named DASH, it claims to be anonymous etc. person b: so how much is this DASH coin? a piece?.. person a: 3 bucks..... (person b buys) day 3 person b: hey person c i bought some DASHcoin it is 3 bucks a piece, bought 10..that's 30 bucks person c: WHAT! fucking rip off...i bought 10 million dashcoins for 1$ at poloniex.com LOL
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... i think they want dashcoin to die so they can have the name all for themselves..thats why they keep on pointing out dashcoin market cap. ...
I believe killing Dashcoin was the idea. @RenegadeMan
Point taken - fixed it
Yeah - not sure why they are buying - crazy
Since "we" acquired Dashcoin all it will take is a few letters to a few exchanges - cease and desist - and they'll be forced to stop all Dashcoin trading, if in the USA - but a foreign exchange might be tougher
The Git is locked from what I heard. Not sure if that means downloads are locked too but I'm sure somebody has a copy of the source code.
Wait and watch I guess
That was just a poster speculating, no one intends to kill anything. There is no need to be confrontational. somebody posted here, i've read it and it was deleted saying something like : rush to exchanges trade dashcoin for dark and watch it become DASH , and he was sensing a pump. username starting with M..can't remember if it was minotaur or mangled blue... it was obvious dark devs prefer a slow and clean death rather than deleting github account purchased from slb because this will surely taint darkcoin devs reputation. I have never posted or being on this thread until today and I only came because you had reasonable questions on the DASH thread and I was trying to be informative and clarify what I knew. I don't know what you are talking about but the poster you mention is just a member of the community. I went through this thread and there was almost no activity here since last year, there is no need to come up with conspiracy theories as we would like for things to be friendly. right.. i have no evidence, you got me...but it is my word and i'm standing for it, that someone from your community posted stuff like that in this thread and it was deleted. edit: it was before articmine posted this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10758003#msg10758003anyway forget it, the poster got away with it.
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i don't follow adam white, maybe he owns XMR to some extent that's why he is fighting dark.. XMR is darkcoin's greatest threat it seems.
he must be hyping dashcoin earlier so he can dump at higher prices..that's why in the pic you upload it say's he buy every shitcoin..he trades and he sells high.
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... i think they want dashcoin to die so they can have the name all for themselves..thats why they keep on pointing out dashcoin market cap. ...
I believe killing Dashcoin was the idea. @RenegadeMan
Point taken - fixed it
Yeah - not sure why they are buying - crazy
Since "we" acquired Dashcoin all it will take is a few letters to a few exchanges - cease and desist - and they'll be forced to stop all Dashcoin trading, if in the USA - but a foreign exchange might be tougher
The Git is locked from what I heard. Not sure if that means downloads are locked too but I'm sure somebody has a copy of the source code.
Wait and watch I guess
That was just a poster speculating, no one intends to kill anything. There is no need to be confrontational. somebody posted here, i've read it and it was deleted saying something like : rush to exchanges trade dashcoin for dark and watch it become DASH , and he was sensing a pump. username starting with M..can't remember if it was minotaur or mangled blue... it was obvious dark devs prefer a slow and clean death rather than deleting github account purchased from slb because this will surely taint darkcoin devs reputation.
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Hey guys, sorry this process was somewhat upsetting we never intended to relaunch as Dashcoin, we are simply DASH. The former developer had already decided to leave this project.
Plus we all know Smooth and the other Monero developers wouldn't be here if it wasn't for this, so no need to antagonize. No one is being arrogant, we are truly sorry for any inconvenience and we wish you the best.
Well stand firm and stay strong to your name, you had it first. as nzminer said it in darkcoin thread: since Dashcoin already exists and other people will confuse it for this or simply call it dashcoin anyway! i think they want dashcoin to die so they can have the name all for themselves..thats why they keep on pointing out dashcoin market cap. edit: dashcoin weakness is also its strength Why mirror image is better than self sustained fork? The reason is simple - costs. Self sustained forks demand a lot of development time, if you want to build a well maintained cryptocurrency. And if the network grows, the required development time is likely to grow too. A simpler, and less costly way to maintain a network with high reliability is to create a self mutating copy of it. Mutating copy is a simple copy of the original source, mutating every time the original source mutates.
Even more - such a process can be automated! it is simply a clone of bytecoin, free from premine scam thats all...
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There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. +1 nzminer original dashcoin since july 5, 2014 still mining dashcoin and trading at poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dshedit: using the words, "starting to be like old domain names" and "small abandoned crypto project" sounds like your trying to make it look dead. anyway at least post a link to show how the so called "acquired rights to the name" is really acquiredI am just trying to be helpful by sharing information. The DASH dev team did acquire the rights to that project from the original developer, signed a formal contract and registered the trademark. Also, took over the Github account, the github is locked and development will not continue. Here is the current state of the DSH market: I was surprised to learn that you were still mining and trading. I don't have any more information besides what I already shared, if you have further questions you can direct them to the original developer of that project. yup i'm still mining..that's what decentralization is all about. signed a formal contract and registered the trademark <----link? is it legal? as far as i know this is open source software, dashcoin and many crypto currency like bitcoin is owned by the community. people who mine and bought dashcoin have the right to call their coin "dashcoin". dashcoin github account is forked by the way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769530#msg10769530https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769172#msg10769172i can see dashcoin dev is bought by darkcoin devs for the name, no use talking to him..not even saying anything on dashcoin thread this is some shady/dark deals isn't it? Not really, it is pretty transparent as you can see. I am happy to see you forked the project, I was going to suggest that, as we never intended to delete it. Good luck with the new coin. correction.. older and the original DASHCOIN a truly anonymous cryptonote crypto currency good luck with your new coin, the so called DASH former darkcoin Thanks. lol you keep on deleting this? the original dashcoin logo.. edit: thank you too
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There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. +1 nzminer original dashcoin since july 5, 2014 still mining dashcoin and trading at poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dshedit: using the words, "starting to be like old domain names" and "small abandoned crypto project" sounds like your trying to make it look dead. anyway at least post a link to show how the so called "acquired rights to the name" is really acquiredI am just trying to be helpful by sharing information. The DASH dev team did acquire the rights to that project from the original developer, signed a formal contract and registered the trademark. Also, took over the Github account, the github is locked and development will not continue. Here is the current state of the DSH market: I was surprised to learn that you were still mining and trading. I don't have any more information besides what I already shared, if you have further questions you can direct them to the original developer of that project. yup i'm still mining..that's what decentralization is all about. signed a formal contract and registered the trademark <----link? is it legal? as far as i know this is open source software, dashcoin and many crypto currency like bitcoin is owned by the community. people who mine and bought dashcoin have the right to call their coin "dashcoin". dashcoin github account is forked by the way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769530#msg10769530https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769172#msg10769172i can see dashcoin dev is bought by darkcoin devs for the name, no use talking to him..not even saying anything on dashcoin thread this is some shady/dark deals isn't it? Not really, it is pretty transparent as you can see. I am happy to see you forked the project, I was going to suggest that, as we never intended to delete it. Good luck with the new coin. correction.. older and the original DASHCOIN a truly anonymous cryptonote crypto currency good luck with your new coin, the so called DASH former darkcoin
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There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. +1 nzminer original dashcoin since july 5, 2014 still mining dashcoin and trading at poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dshedit: using the words, "starting to be like old domain names" and "small abandoned crypto project" sounds like your trying to make it look dead. anyway at least post a link to show how the so called "acquired rights to the name" is really acquiredI am just trying to be helpful by sharing information. The DASH dev team did acquire the rights to that project from the original developer, signed a formal contract and registered the trademark. Also, took over the Github account, the github is locked and development will not continue. Here is the current state of the DSH market: I was surprised to learn that you were still mining and trading. I don't have any more information besides what I already shared, if you have further questions you can direct them to the original developer of that project. yup i'm still mining..that's what decentralization is all about. signed a formal contract and registered the trademark <----link? is it legal? as far as i know this is open source software, dashcoin and many crypto currency like bitcoin is owned by the community. people who mine and bought dashcoin have the right to call their coin "dashcoin". dashcoin github account is forked by the way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769530#msg10769530https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769172#msg10769172i can see dashcoin dev is bought by darkcoin devs for the name, no use talking to him..not even saying anything on dashcoin thread this is some shady/dark deals isn't it?
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There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. +1 nzminer original dashcoin since july 5, 2014 still mining dashcoin and trading at poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dshedit: using the words, "starting to be like old domain names" and "small abandoned crypto project" sounds like your trying to make it look dead. anyway at least post a link to show how the so called "acquired rights to the name" is really acquiredI am just trying to be helpful by sharing information. The DASH dev team did acquire the rights to that project from the original developer, signed a formal contract and registered the trademark. Also, took over the Github account, the github is locked and development will not continue. Here is the current state of the DSH market: I was surprised to learn that you were still mining and trading. I don't have any more information besides what I already shared, if you have further questions you can direct them to the original developer of that project. yup i'm still mining..that's what decentralization is all about. signed a formal contract and registered the trademark <----link? is it legal? as far as i know this is open source software, dashcoin and many crypto currency like bitcoin is owned by the community. people who mine and bought dashcoin have the right to call their coin "dashcoin". dashcoin github account is forked by the way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769530#msg10769530https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232.msg10769172#msg10769172i can see dashcoin dev is bought by darkcoin devs for the name, no use talking to him..not even saying anything on dashcoin thread
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Darkcoin is wanting to use your name and rebrand to DASH, this is likely to cause confusion for you. I would voice your concern over on their thread!
for dark intensions i suppose... posted to their thread, showed noobs there the original dashcoin.
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There are thousands of failed altcoin projects by now, the names are starting to be like old domain names. The development team acquired the rights to the name from a small abandoned crypto project "Dashcoin" although it was never intended to use the suffix "coin". Thus we are now DASH, but thanks for watching our backs, it is all taken care of though. +1 nzminer original dashcoin since july 5, 2014 still mining dashcoin and trading at poloniex https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dshedit: using the words, "starting to be like old domain names" and "small abandoned crypto project" sounds like your trying to make it look dead. anyway at least post a link to show how the so called "acquired rights to the name" is really acquired
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great we have a backup.
development is not yet necessary, it is a BCN clone, a maintenence guy is all we need for the moment.
a new thread maybe? pools?
i don't see dashcoin is going to be big at the moment but the way XMR and DRK is at war, i say XMR need dashcoin to at least survive, to teach dark devs a lesson in stealing dashcoin name(which is bad for DRK publicity), ethics, and the nature of open source and community.
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slb, what next?
slb won't have a face to show around here because he already sold out..in order for dashcoin to survive. the community should take over and decide what will be the next for dashcoin This really bums me out. I really believed in (the original) DASHcoin because of the whole BCN scandal. It was like a virgin BCN. I spent alot of time and even some money mining DSH. This is truly a letdown. exactly, fair launch too. I actually mined dashcoin more than monero because the diff was lower... me too... all OS and GPUs have working and optimized miner at that time, fair launched indeed. I already liked the name since the beginning. being a clone makes it cheap, even when cryptos are in depressed mode there is no need for funding since it is a clone so there is no whining devs..this coin should spread nicely maybe dark devs offered some of their instamined coins to dash devs...these ethics creates some sort of trust issue to dark devs (hey dash coin dev i'll buy your name, fuck the dashcoin community, we will enrich ourselves)..crypto currency is about community...this way you can see dark devs will dump at the community at their target price..i bet they cannot hold their pants and wallet like satoshi nakamoto
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