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3261  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Party - Discord server on: May 21, 2022, 09:03:37 AM
I saw there are already two pizza competitions on the discord channel and it was voted through discord, does the third competition will be held on discord too?

Yeah, there was a bitcoin pizza competition for the last two years and this year it should be on Discord as well.


I'm so excited to taking a part, however @Cyrus not yet made an official announcement when the competition start and ended
It will probably be announced tomorrow. Iirc competition usualy lasts for a couple of days, and then members have few more days to vote.
3262  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is diversification into different coins really a good advice for Newbies? on: May 21, 2022, 06:30:29 AM
Most famous Altcoins of 2017 / 2018 didn't even set a new all-time-high again in 2021 / 2022:
The one you are missing in that table is ETH and it managed to set a new all time high in this bull run as back in early 2018 ETH was at $1448 while in November 2021 it was $4815. I am not sure about Cardano, but I think that it also managed to surpass the old all time high during this bull run. Those are just few exceptions that confirms the rule though and probably the same thing will happen with all these new altcoins that are recently popular like Solana, Polkadot, Chainlink etc.
3263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Pizza Day 2022 on: May 20, 2022, 12:46:55 PM
Interesting to see pizza day in a day in the bitcoin bearish phase and the price falling so some newbies were doing panic selling at lower prices while they can hold and all they need to do is to be patient and don't fall into the emotional trap just like happened on the pizza day. The guy who owned this amount of bitcoins and sold bitcoins because he didn't truly leave on it and couldn't hold it, I believe a few years later when the price reached much higher price the people who sold their asset at price will have the same feelings of the guy who traded bitcoins for a pizza.

Laszlo is quoted saying "To be fair, the pizzas were pretty good." Haha, so I think he has no regrets!
Also, it is important to note that Lsszlo didn't buy pizzas with bitcoin because he couldn't hold bitcoin or he was afraid, but because he wanted to prove that if you can buy food with bitcoin, its as good as any other money. And he indeed proved that

What I was trying to do was make it clear that I didn't want somebody to send me a Papa John's gift card, or a Domino's credit or anything like that - I wanted food and I wanted to pay Bitcoins for food. Because if I can buy food with it, then it's it's as real as any other money, right? Food is a basic necessity -- if I can eat from Bitcoin, I can live off of Bitcoin.



If I had my own pizzeria, I would run something like an advertising campaign using bitcoin's theme that day. I would offer customers a pizza with a design similar to yours (that is, using bitcoin logo and a similar theme) with the option to pay only in BTC. A small bonus to bitcoin connoisseurs who know about this significant day for this community.
None of the pizzeria chains thought of this?
None that I know of and that's just tells you how far away are we from mass adoption. Looking at the bright side of that, it means that we are still early. Smiley
3264  Other / Meta / Re: What happened to the forum plagiarism rules? on: May 20, 2022, 12:38:53 PM
I want to say thank you for moderators to take care of this case and I wouldn't surprised if I see there's new account/low rank account shitposting on WO thread to earn easy merit Roll Eyes
Iirc there are couple of low rank accounts that had same M.O.; they both active in Bangladesh local thread and trying to farm merit in WO thread so maybe he already has an alt account ready. Keep in mind that an average monthly salary in Bangladesh is ~$150  and he was making almost double that in his signature campaign so if he doesn't already have an alt account ready, he is making a new one as we speak.
3265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Pizza Day 2022 on: May 20, 2022, 10:06:15 AM
What are your plans for bitcoin pizza day this year?
Same as I've been doing for the last 4-5 years, gonna bake my own bitcoin themed pizza. That is, If I have enough time. Worst case scenario is just ordering the pizza, but its not the same thing as making your own.

My last two bitcoin themed pizzas

 
3266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto crash (LUNA/UST) on: May 20, 2022, 06:16:17 AM
Don't get under impression that because LUNA/UST is down 99% it can't go down even more as this is not the normal situation. A lot of people got rekted by trying to seize this "opportunity" and were buying the dip, thinking that it has to go back up. Well, it didn't and if they bothered to check why LUNA/UST is tanking so hard they wouldn't even try that. After all, there is an old trading rule that says "don't try to catch a falling knife".

My advice is to stay away from it and if you have urge to gamble, go to casino. You will have better chances there.
3267  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [unofficial] CoinDebit NO-KYC pre-paid cards? on: May 19, 2022, 05:24:34 PM
but they confirmed this service is only for United States merchants, so it won't work in EU and other parts of the world... scammers would sold me the card asap.
Well, even CryptoDebit refused some stuff, like selling reloadable debit cards so just because they didn't want to scam you immediately doesn't mean that they are legit. Smarter scammers tend to play the long game anyway.


You can start company in 2020 and register domain in 2021, I don't see anything strange about that.
Well, it would be interesting to see how they offered their service in 2020 without website. And as I mentioned, domain expires in about 2-3 weeks which is another red flag for me.



Terms of service are often times copy-pasted, but I suspect that first one posting this terms was CoinDebit and CryptoDebit later used their idea.
To be honest, I wouldn't even tag someone (at least not with negative feedback, maybe neutral ) for copying the TOS, if thats the only bad thing I could find. Yeah, its a lazy and shitty thing to do but it doesn't mean that some service is a scam as so many do that. And yeah I agree, due similar name and the fact that CoinDebit is older than Criptodebit chances are that they indeed copied from them.


Still, I am strictly unsupportive of projects that steal from others.
Same here, but imho its a different thing to copy/paste something as generic as TOS usually is, and to copy the whole idea and concept of some business/project, like classic scams tend to do.
3268  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [unofficial] CoinDebit NO-KYC pre-paid cards? on: May 19, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
I noticed similarities not only in the names of both projects but also in how they love stealing the content of other, more reputable, companies so that their own business would look more attractive and trustworthy to inexperienced clients.
Copy/pasting TOS is pretty much the standard practice, even by legit business. It sucks, but unfortunately that's how it is now.


Had they appeared on the forum officially, I would have redtagged them like I did in the case of CriptoDebit.
Pretty much this. That's why I said that they don't look any better than CriptoDebit and would most likely end up the same way.

3269  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Party - Discord server on: May 19, 2022, 07:19:17 AM
Anyway I haven't any tool ready yet. I guess I will have to improvise, as I am terribly busy IRL in these weeks.

But I will come up with Something!
Yeah same here, also very busy this week. I was even contemplating about skipping this year's bitcoin pizza day but it would be a shame to stop this tradition. If nothing, I plan to make a regular pizza, without any fancy stuff.


If I remember Lazlo ordered an Hawaiian Pizza, which is out of question, for obvious reasons.
 
Hm I don't think so as he explicitly stated that he doesn't like any weird stuff on pizza, and pineapple is epitome of weird when we talk about pizza toppings.

I like things like onions, peppers, sausage, mushrooms, tomatoes, pepperoni, etc.. just standard stuff no weird fish topping or anything like that.  I also like regular cheese pizzas which may be cheaper to prepare or otherwise acquire.
3270  Economy / Economics / Re: Is TERRA/Luna kickstarting a new Bitcoin Standard? on: May 18, 2022, 09:31:06 PM
I don't know what will happen to Luna or UST in the future although I also feel sure it won't get any better. But I personally have put $250 in there just to profit from the price volatility. Hopefully I can make a profit, but of course I'm trying to convince myself that $250 isn't going to be $2500 any time soon. Even if I have to fail, it's already considered a loss this year. LOL
That really depends when you bought LUNA; if you bought it when price was $0.01, then I think that you can forget about the investemnt, but if you bought it around the current price, then you could maybe end up in profit as there will probably be few more pump&dump cycles before it gets delisted/forked/whatever


I'm not going to do anything [invest or trade] other than just maybe hearing that UST and Luna will eventually become shitcoin in the near future.
It was shitcoin long before this happened, but many were blinded by their marketcap, volume and whatnot while in reality all Terra had to offer is 20% APY on stablecoin and that was the only reason why anyone used it. More than 70% of all UST was locked in Anchor, meaning this was nothing but a ponzi scheme that had to eventually fall apart and  their "inventive" stablecoin mechanism just sped up the process.

Same thing can be said about many other "top altcoin projects" that will eventually fail as well.
3271  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [unofficial] CoinDebit NO-KYC pre-paid cards? on: May 18, 2022, 09:18:59 PM
Some members probably saw recent shady project in forum that is most likely scam called CriptoDebit, so maybe you notice similarity in the name with CoinDebit project that looks legit.
To be honest, if CoinDebit came to forum providing so little info about their services(and not much can be found on their website) they would probably end up tagged like it happened with Criptodebit. One of the red flags for me is that they claim on the website that they are in business since 2020, while whois says that website is live since 2021 (and expires very soon), and same goes for their Twitter account. So honestly I don't see how this is any better than CryptoDebit. At least not at the first look.

Quote
Domain Name: coindebit.io
Registry Domain ID: a6b1cc9de98646908ecb7ea4929ffb57-DONUTS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com/
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com/domains/search.aspx?ci=8990
Updated Date: 2021-11-23T16:36:17Z
Creation Date: 2021-06-02T03:32:45Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-06-02T03:32:45Z

Might be nothing but I just don't like when they lie about stuff like that.
3272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kwik Trip To Install 800 New Bitcoin ATM on: May 18, 2022, 08:59:58 PM
11% fee?
Isn't that a bit too much ?
Its not that is a bit too much, it is way too much. I quit using BATM when the one in my town increased the fee from 4.5 to 6%, so for me 11% fee is unacceptable really, especially at this day and age when you have so many different ways to buy/sell bitcoin.


BATMs are not cheap
Keeping the back end servers up an running has a cost
Hiring people to put in / take out the money has a cost
Since they are still somewhat new customer service people have a cost
And, don't forget PROFIT.....
I do get that running BATMs ain't cheat at all ( I had a lengthy conversation about that with my local operator) but 11% is really pushing it. Unless taxes for running BATM are much higher in the United States compared to Europe, but I always though that your taxes are generally much lower than here.
3273  Economy / Economics / Re: Is TERRA/Luna kickstarting a new Bitcoin Standard? on: May 18, 2022, 03:25:37 PM
Yes, I sold, from the moment I saw the collapse of Luna's price and the infinite print I was sure that the project was dead. Grin
Good move, you probably exited at the last moment. I also thought about gambling 100-200 dollars but in the end I gave up as i suck as a trader and would probably just lose the money.


I think it will be the case of the year, because there is something wrong with the project (not about SHITCOIN or Bitcoin Standard only,) I don't think that selling 80,000 bitcoins will not fix UST/LUNA unless there is an algorithm failure or price manipulation, or scam.
I do hope that this remains fail of the year and as I said before, it will be very hard to top this. It would have to be something huge like one of the top exchanges getting busted, or Tether going through the same thing.

3274  Economy / Economics / Re: Is TERRA/Luna kickstarting a new Bitcoin Standard? on: May 18, 2022, 10:19:04 AM
How's this going? It's kinda ironic you mentioned turning it into a lesson.
UST isn't backed by anything anymore. I'm surprised it still has 1.4 billion dollar market cap and 12 cents per coin. I'd say it's pure speculation.
Judging by this post, he already sold UST for bitcoin, with profit. Well, at least I hope he stick to that plan and sold within 3 hours.

UPDATE, After about 30 hours, I can say that what happen with LUNA is profitable, someone made a lot of money. As for what happened to me:

I deposited $100 USDT to 250 UST and after a few deal I made:

 - $150 USDT
 - 0.00341824 Bitcoin (BTC)
 - 70 USDT eq= 30.64600 US$ (will sold it within 3 hours)



And surprisingly Terra still has a market cap of 1.1 billion, with about 6 trillion coins printed, price is $0.0001 right now, basically, they could just print a quadrillion and even if it goes to $0.0000001 they would still be worth 1 billion.
Just another example how misleading market cap can be, yet very popular among newbies when deciding which shitcoin to buy.
3275  Economy / Economics / Re: The end of the Pay to Play hype? on: May 18, 2022, 09:33:46 AM
The free to pay entry
This is the main problem with all these games since they have to attract users by rewarding them and then need also an entry point, it's all you can eat but with an entry fee so that not only some might lose money on it but you also keep some desperate people motivated to click endlessly each day to recover the loses. So, at this point, it's not as much play to earn but work your ass to not be in red.
I think that it all depends on the model. While i was more active in gaming I generally preferred online games that have some kind of subscription model as from my experience with "free to play" games they  ended to be way more expensive than just paying for a monthly sub.


So the whole plan would have to be put starting completely the opposite way, first get a really good game that people enjoy then try to monetize the game, not advertise it as a money-making machine and then think about the mechanics of the game.
While in theory, I would agree with this approach, you might have another problem down the road
Nearly 70% of gamers hate NFTs, or the Ubisoft fiasco.
No wonder that gamers don't like NFTs (and crypto in general, especially because GPU prices) because all we got so far are shitty browser based games that that didn't have gamers as target audience but people that are more into crypto that didn't play game for fun, but only to earn some money. And if you built your games around that, of course its going to suck and fail eventually.

I do think that play to earn can survive and that it has its place in gaming industry but developers will have to change the approach drastically.  Earning in game should be a secondary thing, like getting few bucks simply by doing what you like instead being the main focus of the game.
3276  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Philosophical question for some about publicly tradded exchnafges vs private on: May 18, 2022, 09:10:58 AM
Do you think you are more comfortable using a publicly listed exchange like Coinbase where you know somewhat how they are doing financially or a privately held one like Gemini where if there are financial issues you may not know untill it's too late? Now let me be clear I am NOT saying there is an issue with Gemini, I think they are solid financially. Just using them as example, because well, we don't know.
I don't think that would matter to me at all, whether exchange is publicly listed or not. Then again, if I absolutely have to use centralized exchange to buy bitcoin (which so far i never did), I would probably chose Coinbase over any other exchange, including Gemini/Binance.
3277  Other / Meta / Re: Ban evasion (account fxsurfer) on: May 17, 2022, 04:58:07 PM
If anyone had any doubts whether snowshow is an alt account of fxsurfer/antkivark/anthithesis, he finally revealed himself as he couldn't resist to leave a comment in Croatian local board where he spreads the same bullshit like with all those older accounts. Imho, his posting style and the same old story that he spreads should be evidence enough to ban this account as well, but unfortunately forum policy is different.

Deči, fascinantno je kako se rugate Buffetu, a doslovno svaki član Satoshi sheme pokazuje da je Buffet u pravu. Jer, da je Bitcoin resurs koji postoji, resurs koji se rudari, onda bi holderi od njega imali koristi. No, nikakav takav resurs ne postoji u shemi i zato su holderima potrebni novi investitori da im korist tj. resurse donesu. Ako bi se sad zaustavio priljev tih investitora ostale bi vam samo te jedinice Satoshijevog zamišljenog broja (21 milijun) koje su atribuirane online adresama i od kojih ne bi imali apsolutno nikakve koristi. Na što je onda utrošena sva ona silna energija? Koji resurs se to izrudario ako niti jedan holder od toga ne može imati korist i treba dobrovoljni ulazak novog investitora da ga izbavi? Pa ništa. Ništa nije izrudareno. Sve što se događa u shemi je atribucija jedinica zamišljenog broja nakon uloga struje i drugih resursa. Ergo, uplata resursa u shemu bez resursa. Školska definicija investicijske prevare. Ono, anonimni lik izmisli broj, napravi protokol i sustav koji jedinice tog broja atribuira adresama na internetu, i ljudi zbog te atribucije daju svoje vrijedne ekonomske resurse. I onda se ti isti ljudi smiju Buffetu. Ludilo.


3278  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Party - Discord server on: May 17, 2022, 04:48:34 PM
What is worst ? Microwave or pineapple ?  Cheesy
Sophie's choice.  Cheesy


Well, I think I can start a thread on the Italian board trying to start a new tradition.
Not a bad idea. You don't plan to join Discord pizza contest?


contest suggestions in general channel . .  .all I came up is pizza eating.  Grin
Yep, @Cyrus announced that there will pizza contest this year as well but i think it will be on Discord only. https://discordapp.com/channels/708770300199698526/802194049720647691/976128996062416926



You have real tradition of making bitcoin pizzas in last few years, and if I remember correctly you won some prizes before... so don't invite Italian competition.
I am always up for the challenge and I am sure that I can learn few things from our fellow Italians. End goal of all this is to improve my pizza game anyway.  Smiley
3279  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Party - Discord server on: May 17, 2022, 01:50:28 PM
Think in the forum we would have had some pizzas more Cool
Yeah definitely. I think the main reason @Cyrus kept it on Discord was that he wanted to sort animate the server, and while number of participants was decent first two years, I think that this year's would be much lower. Hopefully members of Italian board (*looking at fillippone*) would join if contest was hosted here, to show us how the real pizza is made.

I just hope I have enough time to make bitcoin themed pizza this year, as its been my tradition for 4-5 years now and I kinda have a lot of work lately and I have a crazy idea that would take me a lot of time.



As only 4 days are left pre-heating our ovens/microwave and having some pizza designing is on the go for many  Grin.
Using microwave to bake pizza? Blasphemy! Grin

3280  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: May 17, 2022, 08:49:13 AM
Terra je bila jedan od najboljih ekosistema a Luna je bila super projekt. Ne možemo se ograditi samo na BTC i ETH, osim toga i ETH je imao fork - je li i on onda sranje?
Ne smatram ETH shitcoinom (i imam ga u portfoliju) ali mi nikada ne bi bio glavni hodl (niti blizu toga) jer ima svoje probleme.


Ne volim ta pljuvanja po svemu čisto pljuvanja radi - ono što su oni uspjeli napraviti s UST-om je zaista revolucionarno i bez obzira na ogroman fail koji je na kraju proizašao iz toga UST je dugoročno gledano bitniji za razvoj kripto svijeta i zajednice od hrpetine drugih projekata.
S obzirom koliko je UST bila stejkano na Anchoru cini mi se da je jedina svrha toga bilo da ekipa pokupi pasivni income. A izgleda da Do Kwonu ovo nije prvi failani stablecoin. Ono sto je jos gore je da je bio kurcevit te se nije obazirao na upozorenja onih koji su mu govorili na koji nacin se moze sjebati cijeli Terra ekosistem. Evo i Twitter threada https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/1463960623402913797. A Do Kwonov odgovor na ovo ce ostati upisan u anale kripto gluposti jer na kraju netko i je namjerno sve sjebao i pritom zaradio gomilu novca.



Jedan moj frend koji je izgubio nesto love na ovome je to fino objasnio, da ga citiram: "Uvijek sam vjerovao da se isplati ulagati u obrazovanje. Zato sam bez puno razmisljanja ulozio xyz $ u obrazovanje o decenetraliziranim financijama koje vodi lik od 28 godina iz koreje. Ubrzani tečaj!"



Ako Luna nije bila top projekt, volio bih čuti kojih to 10 drugih je.
Pitanje je da li postoji 10 top projekata u kriptu, koji zaista rijesavaju neki stvaran problem. Evo uzmimo Cardano, to je kao "top projekt" a u biti je kurac od ovce i cisti hype kakvih ima jos. Kad ne znas sta ces, napravis projekt na Cardanu i pokupis lovu (afaik 10 milijuna usd) od njihove sekte, kao sto je napravio onaj nas bezvezni i besmisleni projekt Revuto. Doduse, ja nisam ljubitelj altova i ne pratim ih previse tako da moguce grijesim i da ih fakat ima.
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