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341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 18, 2019, 05:25:39 PM
Poloniex not what it was, but news is it seems it's been sold (and bought) again.  Backing out of US market, but 'dropping spot trading fees to 0%' until EOY...

Bland, upbeat press release FYI:

https://medium.com/circle-trader/poloniex-spins-out-from-circle-with-new-backing-global-focus-5a19357bdaee
342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2019, 09:29:38 PM
Something really fishy about this hodling-related item https://imgur.com/gallery/E5Hr3Wo

You are the master of finding little gems, V8.

But I confess, I sometimes wonder what you you were actually looking for when you stumble across things like this... Wink

For heaven's sake don't stop, though!
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2019, 04:58:35 PM
I really doubt that it's possible to front run decreasing supply.

B..b..but isn't decreasing supply exactly the reason people 'might' front run the next halvening?
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 17, 2019, 04:44:48 PM


Nice one, V8.  You have given me an idea... Wink
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 17, 2019, 04:34:37 PM
But she told us to 'keep mum' about it.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

C'mon guys, it's a secret

(with apologies to gentlemand for stealing his avatar)
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 16, 2019, 09:04:57 PM
very strong against the market today. you see any reason?

There is no particular trigger, I personally think it's just fundamentals.  All alts have taken a battering, but there are a few that do actually have a) respect and b) a use case.

I know I am not the only long term follower of crypto who thinks Monero is one of the very few coins out there which has these two attributes. 

The use case is of course privacy, and being able to move money around easily without interference or being tracked is increasingly an issue.  It is part of why Libra was baulked at (and why Zuck wanted to launch it) because he would know the last piece of the jigsaw: where, how and on what we spend our money.

The ability to move funds safely and away from prying eyes - if you live in a state that traces your every move, or won't let you take your money out if you leave - is beyond price.  It could one day even be a matter of life and death - ask HK residents what they are concerned about...

So the use case exists. Being a freely and fairly issued coin with no premine, no 'cut' for masternodes or devs means trust in the coin is there, too.

Why now?  Well, it's probably simply too low.  Some people have decided this is too cheap not to accumulate again.   Monero has historically had a habit of moving up very suddenly and leaving people behind. 

So, it's probably just 'about time'.  A planned regular protocol upgrade is due in next month, which can't hurt, either. 

If you want privacy and pretty decent liquidity from an honest coin which as recently as last year was priced over $500, and now is nearly all mined?  Well maybe it's worth a punt.

DYOR
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 16, 2019, 07:24:48 AM
Always lurking, but never failing to keep up on here and the price of Monero.

In crypto winters time does seems to grind on rather slowly.... However, just now it seems there are signs of life.  
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 14, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
She believes that when buying crypto with fiat you need KYC, so Bitcoin cant be used anonymously (unless you mined it or have old stacks) and she believes that everyone have right to privately use cash and Monero.

https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/dhbv5z/ama_with_us_congressional_candidate_agatha/f3lz4fh/

So there are fans potentially to be in high places, then.  Cool.

Hard not to love Monero, though...
349  Other / Off-topic / Re: Good food experiences "place to share some places etc" on: October 13, 2019, 04:37:15 PM
What a lovely meal
How nice for your CryptoQueen
You treat her well Mic
350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
Hey Hairy - congratulations!

About bloody time....  Smiley

351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 08, 2019, 07:42:18 PM
Just going over Bitcoin's price history in my mind and remembering the last time we fell to 8K from the ATH. I remember the feelings of excitement at 8K even though we had already dropped about 58%. I thought that was the bottom at the time and Terra wasn't having any of it.
I remember her saying something along the lines of, bottom? "Bitcoin is eight fucking thousand dollars, get real!"

Just discovered that all posts from Terra2 account have been deleted. What a shame.. hmmm..



Not sure if you were joking - but her posts are still there.  One 'r' though:

Looks like a good time to buy bitcoin??
You can scrape some more gains out of this rally but only if you can manage sell before the drop to $3K.

One of my favourites...  a while before the top in Dec '17
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 04, 2019, 05:02:19 PM
Very short term: If BTC doesn't dump this weekend, Monero looks like it wants to follow it up.  Both are looking frothy...

BTC pushes up away from the 8K, XMR stays over the .007 ?

It's early for this weekend, but there is a lot of green in altlandia as I write
353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2019, 10:00:52 PM
A death that is close
Reminds us to be thoughtful
As we're all mortal
354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Q4 -Quarter 4 speculation thread, where will 2019 end, join the LIST on: October 01, 2019, 03:00:46 PM
$15,122.88

Based on 2015 overlay and extrapolation of the ratio at end of Q3.

The bull will return
And prove holders right
Inevitably


Plus (if it is $15K+)

Mic and Eddie’s hats
To be correct by Christmas
Would be delightful
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
Congrats to gentlemand!
356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2019, 05:35:28 PM
Ref: Adam and the WO thread:  JJG was largely right.  Adam left and set up an alt thread on another forum due to a disagreement with the overall policy during the blocksize debate.

For some time there was no mod at all and Theymos locked the thread.  There was an ultimatum that the thread would only be opened again (in its same form) if there was a new mod.

There were candidates who were prepared to volunteer and a bunch of us sorted out an election to get someone in - which resulted in infofront being given the poisoned chalice.  I was in touch with Theymos at the time and he really didn't want the thread to go, he just needed someone to take it on.

I don't think there is wholesale animosity towards Adam.  Personally I think he did create the whole atmosphere in the first place, and think he is due some credit.  However, infofront has general support and I am not sure many would even want the job - while all of us want 'someone' to do it.

TLDRL
Infofront's role is entirely legitimate - no ifs, not buts.   Adam's credit is due, yes - but he did turn his back on this place, so while some of us remember him fondly, the 'it's Adam's thread' point is moot.

Good summary of the situation. Though Fatman, having been absent for a while, is understandably not up to date on the matter. And he/she has a point. No slight against infofront, who is doing yeoman's work in moderation, but adam should be properly attributed for history's sake.

I would not object if he was credited and I don't disagree.  My trigger was that I don't think infofront deserves a trashing, or that the thread has gone to hell.  

Edit: And I forgot 'thank you'
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2019, 12:12:19 PM
Ref: Adam and the WO thread:  JJG was largely right.  Adam left and set up an alt thread on another forum due to a disagreement with the overall policy during the blocksize debate.

For some time there was no mod at all and Theymos locked the thread.  There was an ultimatum that the thread would only be opened again (in its same form) if there was a new mod.

There were candidates who were prepared to volunteer and a bunch of us sorted out an election to get someone in - which resulted in infofront being given the poisoned chalice.  I was in touch with Theymos at the time and he really didn't want the thread to go, he just needed someone to take it on.

I don't think there is wholesale animosity towards Adam.  Personally I think he did create the whole atmosphere in the first place, and think he is due some credit.  However, infofront has general support and I am not sure many would even want the job - while all of us want 'someone' to do it.

TLDRL
Infofront's role is entirely legitimate - no ifs, not buts.   Adam's credit is due, yes - but he did turn his back on this place, so while some of us remember him fondly, the 'it's Adam's thread' point is moot.
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2019, 10:22:50 PM
I'd prefer you being right - but I have a little more dirty fiat held back Wink
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2019, 09:45:39 PM
And while I am in - I love the TA Hairy.  I was concerned about this support line going back to 2018.  I think it is where the bears were aiming.  Now the RSI is picking up, seems you were spot on.

The line meant around the $7K mark...  +/- $100
360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 27, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
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Why Greta Thunberg triggers the troglodytes among us

The internet has it in for Greta Thunberg, or at least it seems that way sometimes.
In spending any time probing the blather of bottom-feeders though, there's a danger of amplifying it. A risk of implying that it's common, ubiquitous even. It isn't.

The teardowns and tirades aren't everywhere: in my feed they certainly don't outweigh all the love and praise, the admiration and all the go you good things.But there's an underbelly. A cruel and creepy world where it's apparently perfectly fine — nay, encouraged — for adults, generally (but not exclusively) male adults, to shred a 16-year-old to pieces.

Greta ticks all the boxes. She triggers the troglodytes among us in some wholly predictable ways.

The voice of a generation?

Greta Thunberg inspired a global movement for climate action, but some haven't welcomed her message.
She's a girl. To say our culture hates girls is, of course, an overstatement. Afterall, we enjoy looking at girls and having them sing and shimmy for us.

We quite like it, say, when they swim fast enough to earn "us" a gold medal.We especially like them consuming our products and chiming about them on social media. But we largely abhor girl culture.
Things that girls like, things that girls are interested in, are routinely devalued and considered as trivial.
If a book, a band, a film, a foodstuff has a disproportionate teen-girl following — think Twilight, think Taylor Swift, think Billie Eilish — it's rendered culturally unimportant at best and as vacuous crap at worst.

The moment girls scream and cry over something is the moment our culture has decided it's wholly unimportant.
She's not just a girl — she's a girl with Asperger's. She's not just a girl though.

We like certain 16-year-olds. Ideally, ones that look like they're on the cusp of blossoming womanhood. Barely legal in porn parlance. The spotlight for girls in our culture shines on the ones that are a tad salacious.

This won't go unpunished though. Let's not pretend being sexual doesn't come at a cost; let's not pretend that double standards don't abound — but it's the mandate. If we're going to pay her any attention, the least she can do is offer us something enticing to look at. To smile for us. To not be too strident. To play nice.

Greta Thunberg isn't a 16-year-old doing sexiness for us. She's not performing femininity, she's not exchanging eroticism for a platform to talk about the environment.

She's a soft-spoken girl with bare skin and pigtails. And because this packaging is so unfamiliar on the world stage — because we have no real track record of paying attention to girls who look like this — it's acceptable to ignore her.

She's not performing adult womanliness in the way we expect, so we downplay her as just a child. And we don't consider children as sources of authority, of expertise.

They're naive, and their words — their wants, their hopes — get discounted.

But she's not just a girl. She's a girl with Asperger's. And Asperger's is commonly perceived as a disability.

And the disability frame means she's not neurodiverse. Her differences aren't what make her different — make her amazing, rather.

She's rejected as fanatical. As a single-minded obsessive. As someone who keeps banging on about the same thing over and over again after everyone else has left the room.

This enables Greta to be brushed-off as not comprehending nuance, of not "getting" social cues. As failing to understand how the world really works.

As being not only naive, but as a bit "broken". Certainly too broken — according to haters on the internet — to be listened to about policy matters.

Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future

But she's not just a girl with Asperger's. She's a Swedish girl with Asperger's.

In lots of ways, we quite like the Swedes.

'Being different is a superpower'

Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg has hit out at critics, describing her Asperger's diagnosis as a "superpower" that she has never tried to "hide behind".
We like their noir novels and their flat-pack furniture. Their ABBA, their Lykke Li. Their cosy cocoa-and-cake culture.

And we often find appeal in much of their public policy. Appeal right up until the point where we have to ponder paying for it.

Then, abruptly, Sweden is slammed as a socialist dystopia.

When a girl from Sweden tells the world all the ways that they are failing the planet, all the toil we're neglecting to do for the earth, she's dismissed as a meddler.

She's a person — and not just a person, but a mere girl — who's looking down at us, who's judging us.

If we can work out ways to disregard her — to use her age and accent and Asperger's against her — then her scowling and judgment doesn't matter.

In considering the source as less than, we can rationalise not paying proper attention. Afterall, the judgment of our inferiors matters little.

But she's not just a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish. For the kicker, she's a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish and who's asking us to do more than just separate our rubbish.

And this is what it's really about. The pigtails and soft voice takes a backseat to the true problem with Greta Thunberg: she reminds us of the litany of our collective failings.

Not just about how we don't care enough, but that we're not doing enough. That we're not outspoken enough. That we're not sacrificing.

That even if we acknowledge that there's a climate calamity, we're not forgoing anything for it.

Just as we hate vegans because they remind us that there's a dark cost — paid by animals every bit as sentient as our fawned-over puppies — to that burger, Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future.

It's equal parts predictable and reprehensible that a girl gets targeted because she's saying and doing what we're too — variously — lazy, complacent and greedy to do ourselves.

But the reasons she bristles, the reasons that a soft-spoken 16-year-old Swede has the capacity to stir such defensiveness and prompt such venom, is testimony to the fact that she's doing an awful lot right.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-09-28/unpacking-twitter-tirades-why-are-we-triggered-by-greta-thunberg/11545952

The fossil fuel lobby + misogyny...   The force is strong in this formula.

But meh - fossil fuels are so last century.   Like Canute and the tide the deniers will just end up with wet feet.  Maybe people should listen to the logic of arguments sometimes rather than viscerally attack the mirror which simply reflects the flaws in their entrenched philosophy
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