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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New solutions on existing industries on: December 13, 2019, 12:40:51 PM
Now, many projects look promising and many people think that they can really bring a lot of benefits to people and the cryptocurrency community. but I already got experience and I want to advise everyone that you do not need to believe in one project or a social network that seems very good to you. Do not invest a lot of money in one project because you do not know what kind of problems may arise in the project. it is a very young and unpredictable market
Indeed, many of them are just trying to deceive you by making you believe into their promises that is quite impossible and it is the reason why up until now many of us are in doubt whether to invest or not because of thinking that it will just end up just like any other projects. We can't change the fact that some of them are still beneficial and profitable but we need to be wise because just like what you have said there are a lot of possible things that may happen. It isn't bad to invest your money as long as you already done your own research because there are a lot of things to consider before investing, it is also one way to avoid feeling remorse about your decision.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is for you scam project and what is for you good project? on: December 13, 2019, 11:50:25 AM
Guys we are talking a lot of times about "this project is scam" or "this project is amazing and soon moon" but sometimes scam project making a lot of x but amazing project making -90%. So what is for you good project? Which team and project is fake but making xx or team and project real but price making -90% and we should hold?

I cannot give you a specific coin but I can say a thing or two about your other question. A scam project is a project that has a fake team, fake or copied whitepaper, fake or copied vision/objective, fake roadmap, or fake or copied design generally. A scam project could also be used to refer to those projects that raised money and leave after that. It could also refer to projects that do not honor words of agreement. A good project is of course the opposite of all those.
Adding to that is they are completely copying concepts and gives some updates to existing project attracting investors that they are much better usages from another coin who already gained support from the public. Scam developers are not going to invest time working with their projects but focus with how they can convinced people to invest money and runaway after. There's no easy task finding this team but if you are concern with your money you will extend your research to avoid or lessen your chance being victimized.
Aside from that they also keep on giving you promises that seems impossible and it is the reason why many of us get deceive by them. We tend to believe without even doing our own research, there are some projects these days that was made to take advantage of people so they can get the benefits they wanted that is why I always give myself some time to explore more things before making decision to avoid feeling remorse about it when it didn't turn out great. Some of you may think that it is quite laborious but research is a lot better because you can clearly see the different information regarding that project.
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: not a rule! but it's about your common sense to avoid scam projects on: December 13, 2019, 11:10:50 AM
Well common sense might help , but then scammers can do anything to deceive their victims and get their funds. we cant completely avoid it except we want to avoid crypto investment , but we can minimize it by being  more careful about where we invest our monies. we have to investigate more and do more research before investing . This can help us avoid some forms of scammers.
It is the reason why I never get tired on doing my own research before making decision and action, it's a bit laborious but it is worth it because you know that as the day passes by your funds are in a safe place because you have made the right decision. Many of us have experienced getting scammed and that experience taught us some lesson that will guide us and make us wiser. For them, anything is possible when it comes to money and they will take advantage of you if they get the chance that is why we need to prepare ourselves and make sure before making decisions so we will not end up feeling remorse about it.
344  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Problems in Bitcoin on: December 12, 2019, 01:17:32 PM
If people sees those faux information and falls for it, they are to be blamed first!
Agreed. Common sense is what people here lack. If people had common sense they wouldn't fall for fud or lame ass investment schemes that are obvious scams. Greed and stupidity is what this market is known for.

Fud continues to be a thing because people fall for it. Similarly, scams continue to be a thing because people fall for it. I don't think it will change, ever. If people in stocks don't change, why would people in crypto do? They are more stupid.
Many of those that want to become traders or investors never really think about the consequences and the nature of the markets, all of them think about the money that they are going to earn not realizing that such amount of money has to come from somewhere and it comes from other traders, and if you come to the market with no knowledge about fundamental analysis or technical analysis then most likely you are going to be one of those that lose their money.

And then when they lose they complain about the manipulations of the market and how unfair it is that some traders have so much money when they should have thought about all of those factors before they became traders and not after they became losers in the market.
It is the reason why we need to have some knowledge before investing and trading because it's possible that people will take advantage of us since we don't have enough understanding regarding it. Sometimes we are the reason why we are ended up feeling remorse because we are not thinking about the possible result of our actions and actions. I have seen a lot of people who keep on complaining and blaming about how the market goes without even looking at themselves and thinking how it ends up that way.
345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Suisse tram in Zurich, Switzerland on: December 12, 2019, 12:11:57 PM
This kind of promotion is, as some have already said, quite normal in Europe, and very popular considering that it is a traveling advertisement that reaches a large number of people. In a country like Switzerland where everything revolves around financial services, it's no wonder to see that someone wants to raise the level of awareness about Bitcoin and about cryptocurrency in general.

What is positive about the whole story is that Bitcoin is portrayed in a positive light, and it is coming out of a gray area where most people still see it. When someone tells me Bitcoin is a scam or a Ponzi scheme, then I show them what Switzerland, Germany or Japan think about it and what status Bitcoin has in those countries.



ChuckBuck&bitcampaign, please do not abuse the quote option, there is no need to make it difficult for everyone to use the forum Angry
Actually, there are a lot of people these days who thinks that bitcoin is a scam because of what they have heard about it being used in illegal activities that is why I can't also blame them for thinking that way. They judge bitcoin without even search the real meaning of it, they only see it's negative side but this kind of promotion might help them open their minds that a digital currency existed and it is not what they think it is. Bitcoin is beneficial and there are a lot of advantages on using it, I just hope they will realize it because it's really good to see people accepting and adopting bitcoin. It is also the reason why i'm sharing my own knowledge and experiences on bitcoin to those people who keeps on telling me that it is a scam, because I wanted to enlighten them.
346  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Government freezes KAPA Assets including Crypto holdings on: December 12, 2019, 09:57:50 AM
Yan talaga ang mga isa mga reasons kung bakit hanggang ngayon ay marami sa mga Filipino ang hindi nagtitiwala sa cryptocurrency dahil da mga ganitong uri ng investment na nambibiktima ng mga kababayan natin o nanlalamang. Dapat sa mga founder at team niyan ay ikulong ng panghabang buhay and then yung mga ari arian nila ay kunin ng government at ipamahagi sa mga nabiktima.
Tama ka diyan, sira na kasi yung reputation ng cryptocurrency sa bansa natin dahil sa mga ganyan kaya nga hindi na din nakakapagtaka kapag tinanong mo sila about crypto puro negative yung maririnig mong sagot nila. Mahirap na din magtiwala sa panahon ngayon kasi hindi mo alam yung totoong intensyon nila sa'yo at maging sa pera mo lalo na kapag wala kang alam, doon sila makakaisip ng idea para makuha yung benefits na gusto nila mula sa'yo. They will take advantage of you, kaya nga dapat maging maingat tayo ngayon. They have to suffer the consequences of their actions kasi umpisa palang naman may choice na sila na gawin yung tama kaya dapat talaga pagsisihan nila yan.
347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another Bitcoin scampany got rekt! on: December 12, 2019, 07:27:54 AM
Seriously i don't know how some folks get swayed by these silly tactics. I bet is greed for more, darn..a bitcoin mining pool in this day and age Grin. Ahh, well it's good these culprits have been found and brought to be book. I hope they are able to fish all the guys that purported this crime. People should also learn some lessons out of these experiences and stop falling for these cheap schemes every now and then.
Indeed, they have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Well, what can we expect these days? scammers think that everything is possible when it comes to money and that is the reason why they keep on deceiving people because they wanted to take advantage of them particularly on those people who does not have enough understanding when it comes to these things. They will hide their true intention by making you believe on their words and promises. It is the reason why many of us have some trust issues and we don't have to feel bad about it because of our past experiences, I agree with you that they should learn from it to avoid doing the same mistakes. It will guide them and make them wiser, only if they open their mind for new learning and experiences.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Warning for newbies on: December 12, 2019, 06:23:33 AM
scam projects of today are smart scam projects, they look very real and serious this makes not only newbies but old cryptopian fall for them too, this days scammers reveal their identity to gain investors trust easier and freely walk away when they feel like
It's true and it is the reason why many of us are in doubt whether to invest or not because we can't assure ourselves that those projects isn't a scam unless you've done your own exploration to find out if it's worthy. The saddest thing about it is that you can't easily say their true intention and there is still a huge possibility that they will distance themselves and hide if they have finally get the benefits they wanted. No wonder why many of us are hesitating because some of you had already experience it and you just don't want to do the same mistake from your past. Scammers these days are getting wiser and they will always find a way to get what they want, you should be cautious in very decision you make because it is your responsibility as an investor. Don't make yourself fall by their promises and words, have some research to make sure and be attentive.
349  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make big profits from exchanging bitcoin to altcoins on: December 11, 2019, 03:48:14 PM
Typically only those who leads the signal group is the one will reap profit decently and if you're just on the free trial then you're donating the hell out of your money.

Seriously, these guys don't have conscience and just care the money they could milk out.

Anyway, I'll just stick with bitcoin rather than exchanging it to altcoin, do remember altcoin just follow the movement of bitcoin, don't be fooled.
Yeah, been there done that! Ive been invited by a group , at first I am very thankful because someone gonna lead my way to trading but after a few days they are requiring us to pay them and it sucks! I mean I thought they are in free will but they will take advatage us because of lack of knowledge.
It usually happens and they target those people who doesn't have enough understanding when it comes to trading like newcomers and that is the reason why they end up feeling remorse about their decisions and actions. It is also the reason why I never trust anyone or any group because I know that they are capable on doing everything if being greedy strikes them. They will do anything just to get the benefits they wanted. You'll realise that instead of earning profit your money is just wasted for nothing so be cautious because you don't know people's true intentions.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Projects that failed to keep their promise in 2019 on: December 11, 2019, 02:20:47 PM
Here are some projects that get listed on exchanges but ignore bounty hunters and airdroppers like they don't exists

1. Sparkpoint
2. Decimated
3. Nestree
4. Sero
Etc.

Any one has a solution to make this stop? if developers can't keep their promises even when they raise fund successful why needing how help to create awareness then?
Most new  projects are scam, Bitcoin and few top altcoins are worth investing on, I will rather buy Bitcoin and top 10 altcoins then hold for several months, if there is any little profit I won't hesitate to pull them out
Indeed, it's sad but it is the reality most of them are made to deceive others particularly those people who doesn't have enough knowledge like newbies. Everything is possible when it comes to money and scammers these days are willing to do anything just to get the benefits they wanted. It is the reason why many of us are in doubt on investing in new projects because there is no assurance that it will be worth it and profitable.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you believe that Nauticus Coin is scam ? on: December 11, 2019, 09:55:19 AM
Nothing is impossible nowadays particularly when it comes to money, there is still a huge chance that it may happen but for now we can't underestimate it's capabilities because what if it is still beneficial to some of us? I'll believe it if someone had shown some proofs and evidences. I don't think they will ruin their own reputation just to get the benefits they wanted, people trust them and they have to give them assurance that they are not any other project. Let's just hope and if someone finally done some research and give us answers then we should take note of it to avoid falling into scams because we can't easily say their true intention. They can be beneficial or they can be the reason for your downfall so be cautious.
352  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10 Reasons Why Bitcoin Is Strong Today And Will Continue To Grow on: December 11, 2019, 07:20:56 AM
almost all crypto users are optimistic that bitcoin will develop in the future, but no one really knows what will happen in the future, anything can happen, What's more many also oppose bitcoin, but I still have faith that bitcoin will be more victorious in the future.
The future of bitcoin depends on how we treat it today. Most of people see it nowadays as profitable assets and that's why many people are keep acquiring it. There are also claims that if you have bitcoin today then you can avoid the next financial crisis. It will continue to grow as time passing by because there are still many people who do not know about what it is and how does it work. They will become interested to acquire it because of its advantages and benefits.
Indeed, it sometimes depends on the level of their perception, people these days will be only interested on something that can be beneficial to them. If they can see the capabilities and potentialities of bitcoin then they will acquire it. As you can see many people still see bitcoin as a scam due to negative news that they have heard and it can be one of the factor that can have a huge impact on their decision making but despite of that I still believe that it is not a hindrance on the growing and improving state of bitcoin.
353  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypt is now legal in Ukraine on: December 10, 2019, 03:18:18 PM
It is good that slowly by slowly, cryptocurrency is being accepted by different countries. But what I am afraid of is that we never know what will happen in the long run. What if these governments will abuse crypto years after legalizing crypto? I am not against legalization, in fact I am happy but it just makes me think about the other possibilities that we might encounter.
Indeed, particularly nowadays that anything is possible when it comes to money it means there is a huge chance that they will take advantage of it. Well we don't know the possible things that may happen but for now let's just be happy that the adoption is improving because I know that crypto is capable on handling things very well. Governments are wise they will do anything no matter what it takes just to get what they wanted without getting their reputation ruin so we should be cautious since we can't easily say their true intention with crypto. It sounds to negative but it's possible so we must prepare ourselves.
354  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A good advice for every traders. on: December 10, 2019, 01:52:10 PM

I'm expecting to read a bit of repetitive advice here such as risk an amount you afford to lose, patience, don't put all eggs in one basket , etc. but those mentioned by the OP are by far do have sense compare to other threads created before which just stated obvious and common advice.

Yes, looking at our past performance where did we go wrong can create an effective strategy in the long-run. By looking at those, we can think of a strategy to somehow avoid it next time. Not totally will avoid it but we can deal with it without any major problem.

Every mistake and error should be noted and once we are now used on dealing with those, we can now think of an effective strategy for each of those problems we encounter along the way.

The crypto market is so volatile and there will be a time that what we think as an effective strategy still will not work. That's why it's good to have a set of strategy at any given mistakes we did.
You got it right! Was supposed to post up some links telling about older threads regarding into these advises for traders which are already beaten up to death to be discussed about but about this one
which mentioned other way around which traders should really think off this way. Dont do the same mistake again and be aware on your mistakes and learn from it. Dont repeat mistakes as much as you can
and if you do aware on each step you do make next time then most likely you would sustain this very unpredictable market.
Indeed, we should learn from it and use it as guidance to avoid facing the same problem because some traders keeps on ignoring it without even acquiring the decision they made to end up in that kind of situation. Just like some of you, I also improve my strategy because I know that there is something wrong about it that is why the outcome don't turn out good as I expected. We should always learn from it and be cautious to every actions and decision that we will be making because the risk is always there and you don't want your funds to be wasted for nothing.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Deutsche Bank said Crypto will Replace Fiat Currencies by 2030! Really Possible? on: December 10, 2019, 12:31:43 PM
I am not an expert in this area, but here is my opinion: It is more like the demand for the digital currency will rise because of digitalization, a new era will bring a new system. In 2030, we are expecting a modern civilization. Virtual reality will be a common thing and because of that, we need a payment system that we can use digitally and easy to use. The real challenge for adoption is lack of knowledge from the users and complexity, cryptocurrency is not ready yet to be implemented in real life because of this.

Indeed, particularly those people who live in rural areas because some of them does not even know that a digital currency existed. It can be the reason why the adoption is going to be difficult since those people does not even familiar with anything related in technology but I know that as times passes by someone will enlighten them about cryptocurrency or they can encounter it themselves. A decade is not enough because there are a lot of things that we need to consider and there will be some possible problems especially to the government.
356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: please help me about bitcoin atm! SCAM or No on: December 10, 2019, 08:53:05 AM
hi guys
one of my friends want to send me 30000$ bitcoin from america california with easybit bitcoin atm
but he  says you should send 700$ to atm bitcoin wallet to confirm transaction!
is there anything like this in usa ?
also he says i send money to atm and it is pending for your 700$ verification from your distance wallet
he says just in usa atm machins needs this verification
is he lier or not ?

Never trust any one who want to sent bitcoin first from you, it scammer and give your source people want to try scam you and protect the other never been people who scam by them. I got many request from telegram channel always have the same thing like you because they can't withdraw their bitcoin wallet and ask for me to sent several bitcoin balance and them give me about 1 btc, block people like this and never trust again.
Indeed, that person you consider as friend is only trying to deceive you and take advantage of you because you don't have enough understanding about bitcoin ATM's. If I were you, I'm going to have some research to find out if he's telling the truth or not, it seems like he's just getting the benefits he wanted from you so you should be cautious particularly these days because you can't easily say people's true intention.
357  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: Gaano ba kakilala sa Pilipinas ang Altcoins? on: December 10, 2019, 08:07:44 AM
di nga masyadong alam yang Bitcoin dito sa Pinas how much more yang alts.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Sa lahat ng tinuturoan ko, akala talaga nila at first ang Bitcoin ay isang company na kailangan mag invest at may return. lol
Yun ang malaking akala ng mga hindi nakakaalam sa bitcoin yan din akala nung mga tinuruan ko before na parang pyramiding daw ang bitcoin so pinaliwanag ko sa kanila ng maigi kung ano ba talaga ang bitcoin at yun napagtanto naman nila kung ano ba talaga ito. Maraming Pinoy ang nakakakilala sa bitcoin pero sa altcoins matatagalan pa siguro bago malaman ito ng karamihan usually kasi bitcoin talaga kilala nila.
Kilala nila yung bitcoin sa totoo nga niyan madami sa kanila yung nag aakalang scam ito dahil sa mga naririnig at nagbabasa nila. Familiar na sila sa bitcoin pero kung sa altcoin naman mukhang hindi, aware naman yung karamihan sa kababayan natin na nag eexist ang digital currency pero bitcoin lang yung literal na familiar sa kanila siguro kasi hindi sila ganon kainteresado para mag search ng iba't ibang information about sa mga bagay na related sa bitcoin. Kung tutuusin kasi masama yung image na makikita nila sa bitcoin kaya siguro hindi ganon kalaki yung adoption ng cryptocurrency dito sa bansa natin pero alam ko naman na dadating din yung araw na tatanggapin nila ito maging ang iba pang cryptocurrency. Hindi din kasi ganon kadali na ipakilala sa kanila ang bitcoin at altcoin kasi kung sa bitcoin nga negative side yung tinitignan nila paano pa kaya sa altcoin hindi ba? isa yun sa factor na nakakaapekto sa pag iisip nila at maging sa choices nila.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Advice to bounty hunters that wants to quit on: December 09, 2019, 03:12:01 PM
Worthless bounties are more than useful ones, so because of this, I just selectively participate in bounty hunting and not just dive into all bounty with all my energy. I don't want to be heartbroken. Sometimes a very promising project may even tell you they are cancelling the project because of lack sales.
It's pretty accurate and that is the reason why they can't blame us for thinking that way because those scam incidents had a huge impact on our decision making but I also understand that it's a part of our journey. There will be some times that we are going to experience some downfall but we should not let it stop us for achieving our goals, besides there are still another chance to grab an opportunity from bounties. We should just be patient and have our own exploration to identify which bounty is worth the risk, there are a lot of projects these days that was made to deceive us and take advantage of us .We should be more cautious because of that since we can't easily say their true intention, they can be beneficial or worthless.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Experience The Future Of Investments on: December 09, 2019, 02:01:45 PM
It will be great if you have posted enough details about it because you can't just expect people to believe in you, give them some assurance that their investment will be worth it and profitable. Some of us had experienced getting scammed and you can't blame us for being like this because we are just protecting ourselves from scammers, we are not underestimating it's potentialities, we are just making sure that our funds are safe because we can't really take it away that most ICO's are made to deceive others and take advantage of them.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New thread for self-funded projects on: December 09, 2019, 01:15:31 PM
I think this is fine creating a thread dedicated to self-funded projects. but do not expect all of them are real because I once participated in the self-funded project and the team decided to dump all of their coins after the community helped them listing it on the exchange, there is a possibility for them to scam you.

It's true that you can't assure yourself because you don't know people's true intention these days there is a huge chance that they will take advantage of you and that is the reason why up until now many of us still have trust issue when it comes to ICO's or even self-funded projects. Well it can be an advantage for you if you have enough understanding on researching because in that way you can easily identify which project can be beneficial to you. We don't have to underestimate their capabilities but there are a lot of possible scenarios so be cautious.
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