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3501  Economy / Economics / Re: The Need for Bitcoin and an Argument Against Regulation on: April 25, 2018, 10:30:07 PM
Regulation of bitcoin exchanges is okay, however, I think when excessive regulation comes into play so that it can almost be regarded as a "crackdown" on all bitcoin activity is uncalled for completely, and you're right, it can indeed stifle bitcoin's adoption rates and make it difficult for people who need it the most to access it.

DooMAD presents this point perfectly, if there aren't regulated exchanges, then the pretty much all exchanges would be run on fractional reserve and have much more likelihood to scam you. However, if regulators decide that KYC rules have to be tightened up to the point that it's impossible for the average Joe to access the exchange, that's when problems arise.

I'm definitely against excessive regulation, but at the end of the day, we aren't the ones making the rules. The archaic system is making the rules here, and they obviously have a conflict of interest.
3502  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Yobit is SCAM, Withdraw in process for 3 days and no reply from support on: April 25, 2018, 08:35:05 AM
What happened:: i withdraw UNIT coin 3 days ago and it still in process and i made a new withdraw with small amount and it still in process too but i got my coins, they didn't send coins and put it in process to tell people they sent it. i opened tickets and no reply from support as always 
Username : zoro0
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406594

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed: 163.8 and 78.8
Payment Method:withdraw UNIT 
Proof of Payment: still in process in withdrawal
PM/Chat Logs: Many screenshots of every support ticket
Additional Notes: please yobit send my coins now because if you send it too late i will lose it because i buy something for it will expire

UNIT's depositing is disabled, but its withdrawals are enabled for some reason. It says on their site that the wallet is online, but if it's really online, then why are deposits disabled? I don't understand that. It could potentially mean that their entire UNIT infrastructure is currently down, perhaps in maintenance, which is why your withdrawals aren't going through.

Yobit clearly isn't to be trusted, most of the coins they have listed on their site are actually inactive and leads to problems for the customer all the time. Support doesn't respond, as always.



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it still in process too but i got my coins

What is this supposed to mean?
3503  Economy / Speculation / Re: My bullish Bitcoin prediction on: April 25, 2018, 08:29:41 AM
But first, I should warn all of you that a correction will happen before it takes $10,000 and up. In that correction, we will finally see our good old friend Kwukduck again. He will shout, scream and FUD on the top of his lungs.

Take that as a good signal to buy! Study his post history and see what I say is true.

If you see him, tell him the speculation subforum is looking for him.

Depends on whether bitcoin ever hits $10k or not. But the correction is very near.

If BTC doesn't hit $10k, then I think the resistance would be at around $9.5k as we saw today when the price suddenly adjusted downwards. But even if it does hit $10k, it'll probably go up to around $10.5k, before corrections. It's inescapable either way.

There is just no way for bitcoin to rise 50% in value within just a week or two, and continue to go up after that without any corrections and adjustments. I actually would recommend against buying right now, because of the fact that we know with some degree of certainty that panic sellers will be back once the correction goes underway, and you'll have plenty of opportunities to load up cheap coins then.
3504  Economy / Speculation / Re: Сontinued growth or dramatic fall on: April 25, 2018, 08:21:59 AM
Well what's your guess with regard to the further market's pulse?
That would be a fall? What relative indicators can you see? Nothing. Possible negative news in mass media, no.. people are taught by the previous news fakes like limitations in India..
It would more likely be a growth chain reaction in spite of a little market correction or a big sales..
Anyway what's your opinion?

I don't really see the regulation FUD going away this year. Plus, I don't think that the bear market has found its true bottom yet, so the chances of there being further dumps after this pump is over is very high.

The price is still going up lightning fast, and to me that is not sustainable for much longer. Usually rallies only last weeks at a time before a dramatic fall.

Long term, I'm still very optimistic on bitcoin picking up price and adoption. But since this bear mrket probably isn't over yet, after BTC hits a strong resistance most likely around the $10k mark, prices will go down in the short run imo.
3505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Total Marketcap is rising, start of bullish market? on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:43 PM
I can see now that total marketcap started to go up since lastweek, maybe an indication of bullish market for crypto,.
we really just have to hold and believe, Patience is the key of success. Smiley  those who are still holding even 70% loss is the true warrior in market., you cant win unless we fight,, Smiley

Nobody should have bought at the all time high, because it was clear that the markets were overheated and a big correction was definitely due.

But yes, we're seeing quite a dramatic turn of events here. BTC first reached the $8k mark, and just yesterday reached $9k as well. Markets have been extremely bullish for over a week now. I think for that reason, a dump is probably going to come soon, probably around the $9.5-10k area.

We're seeing the same thing now compared to December, there are panic/FOMO buyers which means that when a small correction happens, they are likely to panic sell as well. That's why I expect the correction to be huge, so do prepare for that and don't buy up too much when markets are this bullish.
3506  Economy / Economics / Re: Are all cryptocurrencies destined to be store of value in the end? on: April 24, 2018, 09:53:56 PM
So I've been thinking about the use of cryptocurrency in the real world. Because of it's current volatility, nobody seems to be willing to spend any crypto now other than for purposes of ICOs it seems?

Before BTC boomed, we hear the story of the guy spending 10000BTC on 2 pizzas. This was BTC being used in it's intended form.

Currently, BTC is only used as a store of value, which leaves other alts. From what I see in other alts, ethereum is spent on ICOs where the trade is one coin to another type of coin. Other than that, nobody advertises accepting payments in other currencies NOR do people seem to want to spend their cryptocurrencies on anything other than something that yields a profit.

So, the question is really about adoption. How do we expect cryptocurrencies to be adopted as valid payment methods when everyone is really using them as investment stocks? Will we only see proper adoption once the current greed and "quick buck" mentality subsides?

If things continue the way they are, then cryptocurrency will always and forever be destined as store of value assets and not really a currency that can be used in the real world?

IMO, bitcoin really is whatever people decide to use it. There is no absolute "intended" use. It has the properties of a currency, so you can't say that it's only a store of value. But right now, bitcoin as an asset is definitely more used than bitcoin as a currency.

And that is mainly caused by the fact that bitcoin is as volatile as it is right now, with lots of speculators around it.

I think that once bitcoin's volatility is gone, bitcoin as a currency will be appreciated and used more. And volatility and adoption rate of BTC has an inverse relationship, more adoption and actual usage of the BTC network and currency = less volatility. So as more adopters come onto the bitcoin scene, and more merchants accept BTC, bitcoin will become more of a currency, but still retaining the important aspect of being a store of value.

Don't forget the fact that being a store of value alone is a rare trait these days, and even if BTC ends up as that, it'll still be widely used and highly regarded.
3507  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Europe Wants To Know Who You Are? on: April 24, 2018, 09:41:17 PM
Everyone hear the news, seems in Europe the so called powers that be want to put more regulation
for anyone who uses an exchange there to trade etc, they want to know who you are and when you are using the exchange for transactions in crypto.
so much for using the block chain and having a hidden ID in a transaction
must be a tactic to tax everyone in crypto?

anyone else read this? thoughts? its on cointelegraph.

something we dont want but who knows eh

Yep, source is here if anyone wants it: https://www.coindesk.com/eu-parliament-votes-for-closer-regulation-of-cryptocurrencies/

Right now, there are still exchanges that will allow you to exchange currencies without identification up to a certain limit. I think what will change in the near future on a large scale is that they want to enforce total KYC in EU exchanges, even if you're just wanting to exchange a few dollars worth of BTC. Localbitcoins is already feeling the pressure and seems to have started to ask more and more traders to verify themselves.

I mean, they've been pushing for regulation, especially stricter KYC laws, ever since bitcoin exchanges started to operate in the
EU. So when this came out it wasn't exactly unexpected or surprising for me. Stricter crypto regulation is going to be a global trend in the near future.
3508  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cryptopia(exchange) holding Bytebal deposits. Take caution while depositing. on: April 24, 2018, 10:01:01 AM
Few days ago I got a signature payment from bytebal and I had directly given cryptopia's address for my signature payments.

The payment was sent but nothing is being shown up on cryptopia now. This is happening with everyone right now.
People also seem to have issue with other currencies too.
I opened up a ticked and just got this reply to which further no action has been taken :

"Thank you for contacting Cryptopia support.

After looking at your transaction on the block explorer I can see there is an issue. For this reason I have passed this issue on to be investigated further and resolved. Please keep this ticket open for further communication, we will keep you updated. Thank you for your patience.

Regards,
Cryptopia Support"

Same thing happened here, also a GBYTE deposit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3375213.0

The situation is indeed different now because the coininfo page lists their Byteball wallet as OK. This doesn't seem like an isolated case on its own, either, since at least 2 people(most likely more) are having the same issue. I reckon it's definitely some kind of problem with their wallet that they haven't fixed during the phase of maintenance.

jhenfelipe is right, if there were issues and they are being reported on a constant basis, at least put it in maintenance so that nobody else deposits and have to have their coins held up.

But for now, you'll just have to wait for Cryptopia to sort out this mess. Their exchange seems to be flooded with problems, and they're just all over the place. I'd avoid them for now, at least until they resolve all existing issues.
3509  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Sportsbet.io phishing? on: April 24, 2018, 09:20:50 AM
Apparently this user : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1842693

Sent me a message like this

Hi max2607

I've replied to you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2267392.0


Thanks  Smiley

Now this isn't something new for me i normally get atleast one message like this in a week but this was from a person affiliated with a famous scam betting site

Do you have any screenshots for this?

It's not the first time that someone has received a PM of this format that tried to phish people into entering their forum usernames and passwords. I've received one of those PMs as well, from someone that I didn't know.

I don't think that the person that sent you the PM who is also affiliated with sportsbet.io intentionally did it. Most likely, his account was hacked as well due to his password being leaked, perhaps phished in the same way. Just don't click on the link, and let him know. But you're right, I think sportsbet.io has had some pretty shady dealings in the past, which resulted in their reputation being tainted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=832366
3510  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [CRYPTOPIA] Pending Deposit 3days since I created the ticket on: April 24, 2018, 01:11:07 AM
The only people that will able to credit you with your GBYTEs will be cryptopia.

Wait some more. That's pretty much all you can do, for now. 3 days is probably not enough for them to sort out this issue that seems to be affected others as well. I'd recommend that you be patient in the meantime and wait another ~2 weeks or so, they should be able to resolve this issue in the mean time if they're serious about it.

It does seem like that Byteball wallets are fine and are active looking at their coininfo page. So I'm not entirely sure what's causing this. Perhaps it is because of their wallets lagging behind, there is nothing to confirm that, however.
3511  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [MeritScam] etherPIC sells sMerit via Autobuy on: April 24, 2018, 01:06:26 AM
Thanks for pointing this out.

Seems like Etherpic(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1802918) is the owner of Bitproducts.us, which is an obvious scam site.

It's not even autobuy. It's their own site, that they are selling shady products from. Not only are they selling merits, they are also selling bitcointalk accounts, ebay & amazon gift cards, bitmain coupons on extremely high discounts.

If you buy anything from them, including bitcointalk merits, either the product you receive is carded/fraudulent/hacked, or more likely they will just take your money and not deliver any goods. Avoid buying merits in general since it's against the rules, and also avoid using this site.
3512  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How long does it take Poloniex to complete Open Orders? on: April 24, 2018, 12:56:20 AM
Placed an order to sell 12 BTC this morning about 10 hours ago and its still in the Open Order section. How long to actually complete the sell? Thanks

Depends on market conditions, and how much you placed the sell order for.

If your sell order is above the current market price then expect it to stay open for a while, because there are no guarantees that bitcoin go up. This has nothing to do with poloniex, since they don't control the actual trades.

If your ultimate aim is to sell your BTC as quickly as possible without any sort of expectation of BTC going up any further, then just place a sell order at the current highest bid price. You'll get slightly worse than market price, but it's instantaneous.
3513  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bittrex is automatically selling my coins on: April 24, 2018, 12:27:12 AM
I sold all my altcoins on Bittrex by choosing "auto-sell". A few days later I bought some altcoins again. I checked and saw that, right after I bought the altcoins, Bittrex immediately sold off all of them. I had done "auto-sell" for the first set of altcoins because I could not find any other way of selling my altcoins.

Two questions:

1) How do I prevent Bittrex from selling my altcoins automatically? I don't see the "auto-sell" option any more.

2) How do I buy altcoins again on Bittrex in the new interface? I don't see a way.

Thanks.


It's under settings, and on the left hand side tabs you'll see autosell.

Click on "show all balances", then you'll have a list of active altcoins that are being traded on bittrex. All you need to do is to toggle off whichever altcoins you don't want to have autosell enabled, it's simple as that.

To buy altcoins, just click on markets and search for your altcoin. Then, place a buy order just like you would normally do in the old UI.

But Bittrex isn't a must-use exchange anymore, especially when Binance is much better imho. I've personally moved on from Bittrex ages ago.
3514  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Twitter indefinitely suspends FreeBitcoins.com handle. on: April 24, 2018, 12:19:37 AM
"Hello,

Your account was permanently suspended due to multiple or repeat violations of the Twitter Rules: https://twitter.com/rules.

This account will not be restored.

Please do not respond to this email as replies and new appeals for this account will not be monitored.

Thanks,

Twitter Support"

Totally fucking random.  We have never received a warning or a temp ban.  Just all of a sudden today... permabanned.

It seems like some other Bitcoin related Twitter handles have been closed this month as well.

https://twitter.com/freeb1tc01ns

I didn't find anything in the twitter rules that seems to have been breached by your twitter handle.

Either it's some sort of crack down on crypto twitter accounts, or as alyssa said, some sort of algorithm on Twitter's end that determined your account was used to promote some sort of con/phishing scam.

Crazy stuff, seems like that they are just able to shut down whatever account they want on top of censoring crypto related ads. Hopefully this doesn't affect your business too much, BAC.
3515  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia Withdrawal Issues... on: April 24, 2018, 12:13:42 AM
About 3 hours ago I requested a BTC withdrawal. I confirmed it immediately from email and everything seemed normal. An hour, still processing... sent a support ticket... another hour and no response. I sent a follow up message on the same ticket and just received an email saying the wait time is.......

15 *DAYS*!

Cryptopia is more like a Crypt it seems. Things deposited there dont apparently leave.

Anyone else having issues or am I the lucky one?

LOL 3 minutes after I post this and 3.25 hours in, the transfer has initiated! Thank you BitCoinTalk Gods for listening to your humble servant's pleas for help! Wink

You were pretty lucky this time that your situation was resolved by itself.

Cryptopia has a pretty bad reputation for their support. Indeed, if there was any issues with your account and you needed to consult the support staff of the site, you would be looking at at least a few weeks until they respond.

Plus it seems like a lot of cryptopia account emails are leaked somehow to hackers, since some people have been getting login attempts that are unauthorised. Along with the fact that they didn't take responsibility for one of their listed coins being hacked, I think it's best to avoid storing or trading large amounts on their site.
3516  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to cancel investment plan on yobit investbox? on: April 20, 2018, 11:48:14 PM
I don't like to be the ladder that falls on the guy who fell off it, but... what on earth were you doing depositing $10k worth of crypto onto an exchange? And one like Yobit even..?

I actually have used the platform before, back when I actually played around with tokens and stuff. You really must be more careful with your funds. If you have a little more, deposit enough so you can chat in the chatbox (think it used to be 0.001 BTC) and get hold of one of the mods there. Offer to pay some kind of fee for having to deal with the trouble maybe (since it will be a hassle for their obviously already overworked support). If you get it back, don't look back. Pay your fees and bills. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose.



Agreed. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to deposit BTC in an exchange for storage, because it's just not secure, and many problems can arise. Let alone in OP's case where his BTC was actually something that he cannot afford to lose.

I think what he meant isn't that he invested into the yobit investbox. Instead, he most likely accidentally clicked on the "create new plan" button on that page which took him to pay and create a new investment plan.

In that case, I don't think you can get a refund. Unless you are able to somehow get ahold of yobit support which is very unlikely.
A better alternative would be lending to an more reputable exchange. Yobit's not a great exchange in my book from past experiences with them (delayed withdrawals and deposits, wallet problems all the time, etc.), but loaning to an exchange can sometimes be more profitable and more secure than using Yobit's investbox. I've seen numerous negative reviews from a thread about the Investbox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1922048.120), and I wouldn't recommend continuing to invest there. The vagueness of the Investbox's description doesn't exactly help.

Note that there's always risk when your coins are outside a wallet that you control. I would not suggest putting all your eggs in investing to exchanges. Only invest what you can afford to lose.
Obviously the investbox in yobit is shady as hell, and I would never go near it. But OP's problem probably isn't that he invested in one of those plans. His problem is that he created one of those investment plans which he had to pay for, for others to invest in.

Yea, I sent them ticket and also shoot a PM to some of the admin their but no response yet. I was stupid to made that mistake, and now I feel a shame on myself. That money is the money that I'm gonna pay for my uni for next trimester on July. it's a lot of money for me to be honest.

How much was lost? (if you're not willing to provide exact figures, maybe just a range)

Your only hope really resides on yobit support responding to you and hopefully actually taking action in trying to recoup what was lost. From my experience, yobit support is extremely unresponsive and unreliable in general. Since you executed everything voluntarily and nobody scammed you, they can probably cite that as a reason against refunding. Also, to my understanding of how yobit's investbox which is limited due to the amount of info they put out of how it works, as soon as you create a plan, people are able to invest and make a profit in that plan. So your funds may already have ended up in other people's accounts now.

I'd say consider this money gone, and consider this a lesson learned.

If this was money that was really important to you, you should have never stored it with yobit in the first place. In fact, you shouldn't have stored it with any exchange because anything could happen when you don't have full custody over your coins. Why did you even try to poke around with the investbox things?

I lost $10,000 worth of USD. I'm sad because this money is actually for my education but I would like to gain some profits instead of leave my coins sitting in the wallet, and greedy took over me eventually.

I'm kinda new to yobit website and that where I made a mistake. I accidentally clicked "create my plan" instead of invest in existing plans, thought it was the correct way to do it and I pay the price. Subsequently, I realise that and tried to sent a ticket via support channel and wait them to response me. However, when I did my research I found out that yobit support is take a long time to response to their customers so that make me concern about my case. I hope everthing is going well and I get a refund. if not, It's a lesson learned for me and I swear I'll NOT get involve with this exchange ever again.  Cry

Good to hear that you've learned your lesson. It's not as simple as not using yobit, though.

As a rule of thumb, if you see anything promising you above 10% p.a. returns guaranteed, you should think about how they are making that money. Yobit Investbox is not a viable way to make money in the long run, because it is fishy and I believe that it will eventually collapse. It's actually somewhat good that you made this mistake, otherwise, if you actually made a profit from Investbox and thought that it was legit, it could have ended up costing you a lot more in the long run.
3517  Economy / Economics / Re: Will regulating cryptomarkets increase or decrease trading volumes? on: April 20, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
worldwide regulatory bodies are looking to set legal guide rules to regulate crypto markets which will limit ICO.

Do you think that this will increase the size of crypto markets since it will increase trust, or would it decrease the size of crypto since the number of ICO will go down    Huh Huh

Tough question. It's hard to envision what will happen in the future as always since there are simply so many variables.

What I believe is that volumes shouldn't change that much. In fact, volume may actually be positively affected by regulation if it is reasonable and aims to protect crypto traders from scammy exchanges etc.

But if regulation comes, then I think most of the volume will shift from individual traders to institutional investors, as it becomes easier and safer for them to enter a market which regulated. It'll become harder for individual traders to execute trades, however. But ultimately, it depends on what sort of regulation we are talking about here. Whether tightening KYC, exchange licensing, and so on.
3518  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hashflare vs Genesis vs Bitforx - My experience on: April 20, 2018, 10:34:54 PM
My personal experience with Genesis Mining has been anything but positive. I put in around 0.05 BTC to mine in 2016, and I only made around 50% of my initial investment back. After that, my contract was terminated straightaway. There are plenty of other cases like this.

Trust is a big issue with cloud mining. You don't know if a company is actually mining, even if they show clips of their mining farm, it really means nothing. You don't have control over the hardware that is supposedly working for you. Even big names like Hashflare can completely screw you over, as they did.

There's a lot of people on Youtube and crypto related blogs saying that cloud mining is profitable, but inevitably they put in their own affiliate links at the end to prompt people to sign up and invest. The only way to make money off cloud mining in the long term, imho, is to get affiliates. Your profits in cloud mining really depend on whether the coin your contract is supposedly mining goes up or not. You could most likely hold that coin and make the same amount of profits, if not more profits in a bull market.

I don't see Bitforx as being different to Genesis or Hashflare. They all operate under the same business model, and the previous two have proven to be quite unsuccessful in making profits for the investor.
3519  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Has anyone ordered anything on BitProducts.us ? on: April 20, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
Hi everyone, i was looking for Bitmain coupons discount and came across a thread on this forum about BitProducts.

I was just wondering if anyone ever ordered anything from this merchant and if it's legit?  It seems very shady and selling cards at 50% of their value sounds shady.

Thank you for your input.

As swogerino said, the whois lookup shows that site was created this month, and is created with a very simple template. All they did was list the items cheaply as bait, in hopes that the victims would fall for the scam.

They seem to have everything ranging from mailing lists (shady) to gift cards. All of which are extremely cheap - too good to be true. There's also only 2 payment methods accepted on this site - bitcoin and ETH. Both of which are irreversible.

Nobody in their right mind would sell gift cards for so cheap (50% off for amazon gift cards and visa gift cards) when they can spend it and get more value than what they're selling it for. Unless, they are scammers.

Anything sent to them should be considered a donation, it's honestly a blatant scam that targets crypto newbies.
3520  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [2018-04-19]LocalBitcoins Will Implement Authentication System For The Most Acti on: April 20, 2018, 10:11:49 PM
I also received a message from Localbitcoins around 2 weeks ago saying that it is recommended that I verify my account. They quoted the fact that you become trustworthy in the marketplace after you get verified, but in reality, I think it's because of the regulators in Finland and EU forcing them to take action. Wouldn't be surprised at all if LBC decides to enforce complete KYC before anyone is able to trade on the platform soon.

Clever decision from LocalBitcoin,

It's not clever at all - the decision was forced upon them & they will lose customers because of it.

Agreed, they will lose customers for sure. People weill move to other platforms, Bisq, Hodl hodl, and whatnot. But they really don't have a choice.

If the verification system is only applicable for the high volume traders though it can probably be easily circumvented by creating numerous new accounts under different IPs. That's why I think either they'll completely enforce KYC to all customers soon, or take this step before enforcing KYC completely. If they force any sort of verification onto their customers, I'm definitely going to stop trading there and move elsewhere.
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