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361  Other / Meta / Re: ⭐ Forum chronicle - UP Rank List - Congratulations! (BPIP Merit stat, Trust) ⭐ on: November 22, 2018, 06:54:33 PM
   roycilik   414   
Wrong link with wrong amount of merits.
362  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk is growing up so fast. 9 years old today on: November 22, 2018, 06:50:23 PM
Happy Anniversary Bitcointalk.

I wish I could join here earlier before investing in cryptocurrency. I would not face such kinda loss. I have learned a lot and still learning. I never had familiarized with a lot of things regarding crypto investment before joining the forum.
363  Other / Meta / Re: Why can't we set up 2FA on this forum? It would be a good idea. on: November 22, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
If you search, you will get more than listed below.
Quote from: Little Mouse link=topic=5043895.msg46513384#msg46513384
Why don't you bump share your idea or opinion on an old thread? Will not it look better? This topic has been discussed thousands of times and it's really annoying to have a new thread again.

2FA on bitcoin talk
Two Factor Authentication On Bitcointalk
Isn't it time to introduce 2FA to enhance user account security ?
2fa on bitcointalk

Some others?
Quote from: TryNinja on July 15, 2018, 03:39:25 PM
Please, Google before making a repetitive suggestion.

Can bitcointalk.org get 2 factor authentication? (2013)
Why doesn't Bitcointalk support 2FA? (2016)
364  Other / Meta / Re: Is merit abuse an issue worthy of temp banning or at least DT negative trust? on: November 22, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
you basically haven't earned much, you are simply legendary based on your longevity on the forum...
Longevity, We are here just because of the longevity of some members. If they don't deserve to be Legendary, theymos definitely put some restrictions. Back in the day, the scenario was totally different. Most of the persons used to join the forum with the interest of learning about bitcoin, having some updates about bitcoins or learning about cryptocurrency. Their posts were objectively high quality because they didn't post for fulfilling signature requirements. Why most of the boards are full of shits now? Mostly because of the signature campaign, otherwise, merit system was not implemented, IMO.

What if demerit existed and it was free to give-
Well, I want to share a story with you.
I had joined a forum named icoforums.net which was paying 1 ETH for 100 posts. It was really lucrative. Of course, I had joined with the intention to earn. But, I tried to contribute to the forum. I had posted some decent posts. Apart from that, I started to report the abusers and copy/paste so that the forum gets cleaned. I was able to remove the spams through reporting but in return what I got from users who were spamming?
There was an option called upvote/downvote. To be honest, I was one of the best users of that forum but you know what, my reputation was -17, because there were some users who had fake accounts and they were only downvoted all of my posts.
That's what will be happened here too. Trust, merits are not moderated. If there is something like -1, you can easily destroy one's reputation. And that's why there is DT member for trust feedback. Otherwise, I may create 100 of accounts and paint anyone I wish which would be visible to everyone.
365  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: November 22, 2018, 04:01:12 PM
In order to get the real merit, I find it difficult because I present the article is not good
If I am not wrong, your article is full of only facebook and twitter reports.

However, I am very active in activities
Yeah, you are very active with activities. You have till now made 456 reports posts but didn't get 1 merit. This is your first post without the shit social campaign reports if I am correct. How can you expect to get merit with those?
366  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary account banned? on: November 22, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
it's not my normal way of contributing.
So, your normal way of contribution is-
Announcement (Altcoins)
Bounties (Altcoins)
Token (Altcoins)

Sometimes, your posts go with your username too.
pump=bump, some posts are looking like a clear bump.
How else you do contribute  Cheesy
367  Other / Meta / Re: Legendary account banned? on: November 22, 2018, 09:43:11 AM
As per the report, you and a bunches of accounts were posting the airdrop link in various sections. I am not sure whether you have been banned for this reason or not.
 If you are banned for this only,I think there is a misunderstanding (barely can happen, I never have seen) since you have said that you have posted in a thread where airdrops link are posted.
Wait for output from a moderator.

~

Legendary. Without reflink, but publish in wrong section.
I see that they publish in a variety of sections, trying to cover all sections of the forum. I think everyone of these posts is spam, except for those whose posts in the sections Bounties (Altcoins) and mb Tokens (Altcoins)
368  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: কিভাবে মেরিট পাবেন? on: November 22, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
৯৯% লোক ই আসে টাকা উপার্জন করার জন্য তা কেউ স্বীকার করুক আর নাই করুক।
99% people may come here for the only purpose of earning here. But, in general, what the forum is about? Having discussion on cryptocurrency although the start was with bitcoin only. Here, there are a lot of users from around the world.
Earlier, I have seen someone saying s/he had bitcoin from 2012, which he mined for a cost of $2. We have a lot of things learn from those users.
Well, what was the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto? Bitcoin as a p2p currency, not an investment opportunity. And that's why the legends joined here. Our goal also should be the same.
369  Economy / Services / Re: [FREE] Escrow or campaign manager services and others on: November 22, 2018, 12:09:49 AM
As an escrow can you please tell in details about your fee
I think you have missed the title, or you didn't read the OP. The word "free" was mentioned in both title and in OP.
370  Other / Meta / Re: I do not remember the password and email on: November 21, 2018, 08:19:19 PM
Good luck, don't forget to update us and request to delete this account (to avoid having multiple accounts) when account recovery is successful.
For your info, there is no way of deleting an account in bitcointalk. You only can forget your email address same as OP.
In addition, there has no problem with owning multiple accounts. It's allowed here.
I will show you some here.
hilariousetc alt of hilariousandco
LoyceMobile alt of LoyceV
JetAid alt of Jet Cash
Thus a lot of user have alt accounts here. People should use alt in a fair way. That's it.
371  Other / Meta / Re: Did someone noticed the new "MORE" menu in the main forum menu? on: November 21, 2018, 07:57:34 PM
I noticed it earlier. And later, someone created a thread, afaik. It's a while it has been added. Can't believe how you have missed it.

It's easy to find the option buy Copper Membership.
Click on the menu "More" and you will find 2 option. One for buying copper membership and another is for donation.
Here is the menu-


By the way, I can't find where you have been scammed.
372  Other / Meta / Re: [Explained] How DT system works on: November 21, 2018, 05:05:52 PM
~snip~
Thank you for the corrections. I was in misconception about the 2nd one.
Fixed and updated OP.

Anyone who gets confused with understanding DT system may ask question here. I also request to check the link included below where DT system has been explained as well.
373  Other / Meta / Re: How to Upload Image in Bitcointalk(China) on: November 21, 2018, 03:51:39 AM
Use another site other than imgur. You can use imgbb. There is a problem with imgur.
I think that it's a problem on imgur's end which is causing it to interact poorly with the image proxy. I changed something which may improve it somewhat, but it'll probably still occur sometimes. It may be best to use something other than imgur where possible.

Also, you may try refreshing your cache. It may also work. Press ctrl + f5 and your cache will be refreshed.
374  Other / Meta / Re: Cooper member on: November 20, 2018, 08:23:08 PM
Check the page again and I believe there is a way to wear the copper membership manually.


#Edit

YEAH, thanks
Welcome always. By the way, you could have it without creating a new thread. There are some threads where people asked about this issue and the same answer was provided by other members.

Can you please lock the thread?
375  Other / Meta / [Explained] How DT system works on: November 20, 2018, 07:11:30 PM
New update by theymos- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0
It will be better if you check the update after understanding this thread.
Link to original- Marketplace trust

Earlier I made an explanation on how trust score is calculated. And requested LoyceV to add that one to his [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?).
A part of his reply-
This reminded me an explanation of the DT-system is also needed.
And I am inspired to explain how DT System Works.

Senior people know how it works while newbie always gets confused. Sometimes, some senior member is also confused although it's quite simple. A lot of time people had replied with an answer on how DT system works. I have searched for a dedicated thread where OP has easily explained the DT system but didn't get one which is really friendly for the newbie.

So, let me write it easily so that newbie can understand it easily.

Before going to the explanation, I would like to discuss a little about feedback. In the forum, everyone can give a feedback on other member's profile. But, if you check someone's profile, not all of his/her feedback is shown on the profile page.
Let me give an example.
I have given negative feedback on Danydee's profile. If you check his profile, you will not see my feedback. Because I am not in your trust list. Now, include me on your trust list (Just for checking the feedback, later you may exclude). For including someone to your trust list,
Go to- Trust settings
You will see a blank space where only DefaultTrust is written, it's by default. Anyway, put my username there and click on update. Now, again visit Danydee's profile, you will see the negative feedback now.
By the way, those can also be seen by clicking on untrusted feedback on user's profile.

What is DT?
DT stands for DefaultTrust. Well, in fact, DefaultTrust is an account of the forum managed by admin. In your trust list, DefaultTrust is trusted by default. You can include/exclude anyone from your trust list though.
So, we got what is DT 0, you can also say list of people whom you trust.

Now, if DefaultTrust includes you on his trust list, you will be DT-1 member. If any DT-1 member includes you in his trust list, you will be DT-2 member.
If theymos wants to include someone to DT-1 list, theymos includes that person in DefaultTrust’s trust list.
Now, if DT-1 members include someone in his/her trust list, that person becomes DT-2. I have already used an example. Again, for example, a DT-1 member has included user ‘X’ in his trust list, so he/she becomes DT-2 but if another two DT-1 members exclude ‘X’ from his trust list, ‘X’ will no longer be in DT-2.

Feedback
Since you are trusting DefaultTrust by default, you are trusting all the DT-1 ad DT-2 members by default. It’s simple, if you trust your friend, and your friend trusts another guy, logically you are trusting that another guy.
But you can still exclude a member from your trust list. For example, you don’t trust DT-1 member ‘X’, go to your trust setting. In the box write tilde (~) and the DT-1 member name whom you don’t want to trust. It’s like {~X}. Or, if you don't want to trust anyone, simple put ~ before DefaultTrust.
Now if user DT-1 member 'X' gives someone a feedback, you will not see it by default.

Summary:
In trust setting, all those are mentioned as below-
Depth 0, the list of people who are included in your trust list.
Depth 1, the list of people who are trusted by Depth 0.
Depth 2, the list of people are trusted by Depth 1.



It seems enough for understanding the DT system. If someone else is still missing, feel free to ask question.
Thank you.

I will add here some replies in which DT system have been explained.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045457.msg46607635#msg46607635 by subSTRATA
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1475857.msg16157135#msg16157135 by DarkStar_
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1947120.msg19352236#msg19352236 by Vod

You might want to consider including the following link as well:

https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz

I made it so that'll update every Saturday at 02:52 UTC. -> is "trusts", and -/> is "excludes". Only people with at least 1 post are included. If someone has never touched their trust list, then their trust in DefaultTrust is not shown.

Update-

How to be DT1 member:

To illustrate, this is how the current DT1 was arrived at:

Static part: calculated only periodically
Each number includes the previous criteria.
Quote
- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
 - You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
2431 members
Quote
- Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries.
100 members
Quote
- You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
90 members
Quote
- You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
90 members
Quote
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you sent yourself.
23 members
Quote
- You must have at least 1 person directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 100, not including merit you sent yourself.
23 members, giving a final DT1 of:
Code:
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
gmaxwell
OgNasty
SebastianJu
qwk
Cyrus
monkeynuts
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
Blazed
greenplastic
suchmoon
achow101
owlcatz
JohnUser
BitcoinPenny
zazarb
actmyname
The Pharmacist
krogothmanhattan

Dynamic part: recalculated constantly
(Omitting lists for undisputed ones.)

theymos: Total votes 9 = included
HostFat: Trusted by theymos; distrusted by gmaxwell, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, owlcatz, The Pharmacist. Total votes -6 = excluded.
dooglus: Total votes 8 = included
gmaxwell: Trusted by theymos, OgNasty, Cyrus, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat. Total votes 6 = included.
OgNasty: Trusted by theymos, SebastianJu, greenplastic, achow101, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by TMAN, Lauda, suchmoon, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist. Total votes -1 = excluded
SebastianJu: Total votes 4 = included.
qwk: Total votes 5 = included
Cyrus: Total votes 7 = included.
monkeynuts: Total votes 6 = included.
TMAN: Trusted by Lauda, greenplastic, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
Lauda: Trusted by gmaxwell, qwk, TMAN, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz, JohnUser, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat, OgNasty. Total votes 7 = included.
Mitchell: Total votes 9 = included.
Blazed: Trusted by Cyrus, monkeynuts, TMAN, Lauda, Mitchell, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by zazarb. Total votes 8 = included.
greenplastic: Total votes 2 = included.
suchmoon: Trusted by dooglus, Lauda, Blazed, owlcatz, The Pharmacist; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
achow101: Total votes 2 = included.
owlcatz: Trusted by TMAN, greenplastic, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, krogothmanhattan. Total votes 5 = included.
JohnUser: No trusts/distrusts on DT1. Total votes 0 = included.
BitcoinPenny: Total votes 4 = included.
zazarb: Total votes 2 = included.
actmyname: Trusted by TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, The Pharmacist; distrusted by theymos. Total votes 5 = included.
The Pharmacist: Trusted by qwk, TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz; distrusted by OgNasty, zazarb. Total votes 6 = included.
krogothmanhattan: Trusted by monkeynuts, TMAN, greenplastic, BitcoinPenny; distrusted by owlcatz. Total votes 4 = included.

So the final result is:
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
gmaxwell
OgNasty
SebastianJu
qwk
Cyrus
monkeynuts
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
Blazed
greenplastic
suchmoon
achow101
owlcatz
JohnUser
BitcoinPenny
zazarb
actmyname
The Pharmacist
krogothmanhattan


Special Thanks:
SFR10
376  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) on: November 20, 2018, 02:19:05 PM
Added. Although I like theymos' original post better, you do link there and yours is probably more Newbie-friendly.
Exactly, the one from theymos is also easier but people have to look quite deeply if they don't have any idea about if/else. That's why I have thought to explain it in easier language.

This reminded me an explanation of the DT-system is also needed.
Well, I will do one within tomorrow. I have to find out whether there is an easier explanation.

Edit-
[Explained] How DT system works
377  Economy / Reputation / Re: A ccompletely abuse of merits, Legendary member on: November 20, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
Earlier the post was in reputation, now you have moved it to meta? Wasn't reputation the correct board? Why have you moved it here, btw? I don't see any reason to move it.
378  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sorry I cannot Hold Anymore My Love! on: November 20, 2018, 11:47:05 AM
For those people who are selling now, an example-
Bought @ $10k, price is going down and down, sold @$5k. Then, BTC started to gain price again. OMG, it's $8k, it's the bullrun. Bought @$8k. Price is now @$10k. Let's wait. Let me recover my previous loss. And price is again at @$6k. Fuck, I messed up. I should sell @$10k. Sold @$6k. And the chain will be continued, it will never end. Yeah, that's what is happening. By the way, I didn't invest too much and that's why I am still sitting on the boat easily. The universal truth-
"Only invest if you can afford to lose it."
379  Other / Meta / Re: Trust Feedback without reference on: November 20, 2018, 11:20:18 AM
Theymos didn't mention such kinda rule that you have to put reference link for providing feedback. I don't think theymos will do it in future.
On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this,
However, there are some guidelines but those are not specific rules.
Trust system is not moderated unless someone extremly abuses the system, therefore, anyone can leave a feedback. For example, I got a negative feedback from a stupid without a single reason.

By the way, I do strongly believe that there are a bunches of thread regarding this issue. You should check those before creating a new thread so that you could get the output without creating a thread.

#Edit
~snip~
I request you to read OP and about trust system.
380  Other / Meta / Re: Merit source application by Daniel91 on: November 20, 2018, 11:05:35 AM
~snip~
Merit is being distributed properly. If you take a look at the ranked up members, you will learn.
Those who are not good at English, the forum has local boards too. Afaik, we doo have some merit sources from various local section and they are active in the local boards too. So, people who are not good at English can post on their respective local board. I do think they will get merit if they become active and post quality content in local.
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