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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 19, 2014, 11:11:33 PM
Coin should try and get some publicity when you do the donation

We will send a press release to all known bitcoin media. Wink

What about final giveaway %? 2 or 10?

Maybe a surprise, 90% for giveaway and 10% for ICO investors? Grin

Its clearly stated as 2% all over the OP. Why would you think 10%??

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853242.msg9584048#msg9584048

Hi, how many shares will be provided to everyone fore signature campaign?


2% from total supply or 42000 (6.12 Shares for giveaway | 1 Share = 6860 coins) devided by number of participants. This info is in the OP and whitepaper.

They said that maybe will be higher finally because they don't want to distribute all the coins to 6 persons. But I understood it will be always lower than 10% for free.

Edit: "all the investors will get >90% of the coin, because we will decide the %free depending of the results of the ICO, but 90% minimum will be for investors. "

So it's not that clear as you think, at least for me.
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 19, 2014, 11:03:08 PM
Coin should try and get some publicity when you do the donation

We will send a press release to all known bitcoin media. Wink

What about final giveaway %? 2 or 10?

Maybe a surprise, 90% for giveaway and 10% for ICO investors? Grin
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 19, 2014, 10:58:16 PM
of course what in gods earth would we know about anything? We are only silly stupid morons that really need saving from ourselves.

If you make that statement singular, instead of plural, You would be absolutely spot on indeed.


Man, it's harsh. I know, you can behave better to fellow human beings.
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: November 19, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
It has been ages since I last posted on BitcoinTalk after serving out my second ban lol Smiley

Anywayz, covered the public testing here.

Good article, I liked it  Smiley

Once zk gets out of beta, I look forward to many such articles. We need to build the number of SDC users. Right now I only see 164 addresses with over 1000 coins:
http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000

And only 280 users with over 100 coins. But those appear to be staking users. According to my calculations 12,352,120 coins were issued in the PoW and about half of those are appearing on the block explorer, so I guess half the coins aren't staking.

But being about half of that half is held by a dozen or so people, there is no way for these coins to be distributed without a major dump. So I'll wait!


Where did you get these numbers?


OK I saw 31000 blocks, 400 coins. http://shadow.cash/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8112928#msg8112928
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: November 19, 2014, 10:25:42 PM
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Benny, return to your cave, it's already dark outside.
366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 19, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
How many coins will be distributed among those who opted for signature?

10% or 210000 if devs didn't change their mind still.
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 19, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
So EBOLAShares marketcap is 13.52351286 BTC it's ~644 sat/coin; 2.704702572 BTC will be donated to Sierra Leone Liberty Group.

Yeah, as expected, there is a little bit more people than 6, who were from the beggining. Wink

2.704702572 is about 38.25% from total BTC that they collected so far on their site.
368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: November 19, 2014, 09:00:04 PM
It has been ages since I last posted on BitcoinTalk after serving out my second ban lol Smiley

Anywayz, covered the public testing here.

Good article, I liked it  Smiley

Once zk gets out of beta, I look forward to many such articles. We need to build the number of SDC users. Right now I only see 164 addresses with over 1000 coins:
http://sdc.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000

And only 280 users with over 100 coins. But those appear to be staking users. According to my calculations 12,352,120 coins were issued in the PoW and about half of those are appearing on the block explorer, so I guess half the coins aren't staking.

But being about half of that half is held by a dozen or so people, there is no way for these coins to be distributed without a major dump. So I'll wait!


Where did you get these numbers?

369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 19, 2014, 01:34:54 PM


Can we please stop using the stupid logic that the IPO was a fail because it wasn't on an exchange, i know some people are very simple minded and see that because recently bitbay made thousands in a few days that it is all about being on an exchange, But it is a proven fact that it is possible to get 50 times more BTC while not being sold on an exchange.

There are 20 different reasons all causing the lack of funds that were collected and a few big reasons like nothing to actually see

Maidsafe - nothing to see for a long time | Success  | no exchange
Ethereum - nothing to see for a long time | Success | no exchange
SuperNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
CRAIGcoin - basic working platform | Success | BITTREX
TILEcoin - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BlockNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | ALL
BitBay - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BreakoutCoin - gaming platform soon enought | Pending... | no exchange

So what about other big reasons?

You forgot about Bitshares AGS, which also wasn't on an exchange and I believed raised over 5k BTC.  That was when BTC was closer to $1k.  There are a bunch of other off-exchange ICOs that raised a lot of funds. I think Crypti raised 750 btc.

Can we please stop using the stupid logic that the IPO was a fail because it wasn't on an exchange, i know some people are very simple minded and see that because recently bitbay made thousands in a few days that it is all about being on an exchange, But it is a proven fact that it is possible to get 50 times more BTC while not being sold on an exchange.

There are 20 different reasons all causing the lack of funds that were collected and a few big reasons like nothing to actually see


It's not my quote.

Yeah, also I forgot Via and some others too.
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 19, 2014, 12:34:35 AM


OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
Hello Breakout Community.  The previous announcement post was for discussion of proposed ideas.  Breakout Coin Team will implement the following changes after listening to feedback from the community.
A.  Elimination of the PoW stage and the 7 million coins that would cause dilution of the market over a two yr period.
B.  Bergstake to begin from day one, allowing Bergstake owners ability to earn block rewards from day one.
C.  Increasing the pool of BRO coins in the "coin sale" from 5.5 million to 10 million.
D.  Approx 700 btc goal for initial phase
E. If the total amount of btc raised falls short of the proposed 700 btc amount, we will raise the remaining amount through a "private" sale.
F.  Once the 700 btc criteria is met, the "coin sale" will end.
G. Remaining coins will be sold at a later date to be announced by Breakout Coin on this forum.
.....


I just proposed that they should first release game demos to attract more PR & build more investor confidence, before launching a 5 day coin Sale, preferably hosted by an exchange like BTER or BITTREX, to attract more investors. (Eventhough I trust my funds with BRO team, much more than with those exchanges)




How do you propose this?

Either

A . Destory all the berg stake connected to the addresses when selling on bter because you cannot transfer them - this doesn't work it gives breakout over 50% control of all future earnings for the coin.

B. They keep the coins - Even worse

C. they some how manage to set up an agreement with bter to allow people to transfer address which would be an incredible amount of fucking around which no exchange is likely to do.


The berg stake is what prevents your idea for being simple and turning into something more complex and a huge waste of time .

Can we please stop using the stupid logic that the IPO was a fail because it wasn't on an exchange, i know some people are very simple minded and see that because recently bitbay made thousands in a few days that it is all about being on an exchange, But it is a proven fact that it is possible to get 50 times more BTC while not being sold on an exchange.

There are 20 different reasons all causing the lack of funds that were collected and a few big reasons like nothing to actually see .

Maidsafe - nothing to see for a long time | Success  | no exchange
Ethereum - nothing to see for a long time | Success | no exchange
SuperNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
CRAIGcoin - basic working platform | Success | BITTREX
BlockNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | ALL
BitBay - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BreakoutCoin - gaming platform soon enought | Pending... | no exchange

So what about other big reasons?

The 2 highest earning by miles right there are the ones not on an exchange , so the logic of an IPO being limited because it wasn't on an exchange , when the top 2 IPO's in crypto history to make the most ever were not on exchanges.................... logic flawed

The reasons that i have already mentioned..........Most complex criteria for signed up and investing in the IPO, even maidsafe and ethereum were easy as hell compared to this coin, this reduces the amount of investors just like the reason bitcoin hasn't been adopted is because its not easy to use

The fact they said we would see some examples and demos of some of the features of the casino and we haven't seen anything yet

The reward structure is batshit crazy ......investing in the IPO at the beginning of the IPO gives you more than 100% more than if you invest at the end......now i agree early investors should get an advantage but 100%+ is taking the piss, now only that , but the suggestion of selling coins on an exchange which would make it impossible to use the berg stake and create unfair distribution of berg stake , while also giving investors right from the start and even bigger benefit. like 150% . Yes this is also a reason to putting people off investing

Advertisement wasn't exactly amazing, except a facebook page that was most likely paid followers

There was hardly any advertising compared to other well known IPO coins

All these small things prevent the amount of people who see it and are aware of the project or want to invest thus lowering the total amount that people will invest

I think you are missing the fact, that Maidsafe and Ethereum IPOs were in different times. With BITTREX volume ~3000 BTC and before MintPal fell in a pit.

How many more pages of "here is an idea , lets put it on an exchange for 5 days"

"you can't do that it completely ignores berg stake one of the main features of the coin, it doesn't make sense"

"i will offer no solution what soever to what has just been said, here is my idea :but lets put it on an exchange for 5 days"

It is quite feasible, all you will need, it's to replace real bergstake with tokens. People will buy tokens and in the end redeem them for breakoutcoin with bergstake.
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 18, 2014, 11:59:05 PM


OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT:
Hello Breakout Community.  The previous announcement post was for discussion of proposed ideas.  Breakout Coin Team will implement the following changes after listening to feedback from the community.
A.  Elimination of the PoW stage and the 7 million coins that would cause dilution of the market over a two yr period.
B.  Bergstake to begin from day one, allowing Bergstake owners ability to earn block rewards from day one.
C.  Increasing the pool of BRO coins in the "coin sale" from 5.5 million to 10 million.
D.  Approx 700 btc goal for initial phase
E. If the total amount of btc raised falls short of the proposed 700 btc amount, we will raise the remaining amount through a "private" sale.
F.  Once the 700 btc criteria is met, the "coin sale" will end.
G. Remaining coins will be sold at a later date to be announced by Breakout Coin on this forum.
.....


I just proposed that they should first release game demos to attract more PR & build more investor confidence, before launching a 5 day coin Sale, preferably hosted by an exchange like BTER or BITTREX, to attract more investors. (Eventhough I trust my funds with BRO team, much more than with those exchanges)




How do you propose this?

Either

A . Destory all the berg stake connected to the addresses when selling on bter because you cannot transfer them - this doesn't work it gives breakout over 50% control of all future earnings for the coin.

B. They keep the coins - Even worse

C. they some how manage to set up an agreement with bter to allow people to transfer address which would be an incredible amount of fucking around which no exchange is likely to do.


The berg stake is what prevents your idea for being simple and turning into something more complex and a huge waste of time .

Can we please stop using the stupid logic that the IPO was a fail because it wasn't on an exchange, i know some people are very simple minded and see that because recently bitbay made thousands in a few days that it is all about being on an exchange, But it is a proven fact that it is possible to get 50 times more BTC while not being sold on an exchange.

There are 20 different reasons all causing the lack of funds that were collected and a few big reasons like nothing to actually see .

Maidsafe - nothing to see for a long time | Success  | no exchange
Ethereum - nothing to see for a long time | Success | no exchange
SuperNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
CRAIGcoin - basic working platform | Success | BITTREX
TILEcoin - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BlockNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | ALL
BitBay - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BreakoutCoin - gaming platform soon enought | Pending... | no exchange

So what about other big reasons?
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: November 18, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Will ZK effectively end all competing privacy-centric altcoins (purely from an anon-tech standpoint)?  

I guess what I am trying to ask is this:  Is ZK the holy-grail of anonymity?  And will it leave all other currently available anon-tech (such as DRK, XMR, XC, etc) obsolete, inferior, & nonsensical to use?

It's like asking a question, will cars replace horses with carriage and make them obsolete, inferior, & nonsensical to use? The answer will depent on when and whom you are asking, the owner of the cart or machine. Only time will tell, ZK is providing top tier defence, that means there is nothing better to look for, absolute might (or something close).
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 18, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Hi, how many shares will be provided to everyone fore signature campaign?


2% from total supply or 42000 (6.12 Shares for giveaway | 1 Share = 6860 coins) devided by number of participants. This info is in the OP and whitepaper.

They said that maybe will be higher finally because they don't want to distribute all the coins to 6 persons. But I understood it will be always lower than 10% for free.

Edit: "all the investors will get >90% of the coin, because we will decide the %free depending of the results of the ICO, but 90% minimum will be for investors. "

Ahh, missed it.

Then 10% or 210000 (~337 shares for giveaway).
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ☣ EBOLAShares ☣ First DtP Concept ☣ Free&ISO █ LAST DAY █ on: November 18, 2014, 07:22:49 PM
Hi, how many shares will be provided to everyone fore signature campaign?


2% from total supply or 42000 (6.12 Shares for giveaway | 1 Share = 6860 coins) devided by number of participants. This info is in the OP and whitepaper.
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PTE] PiratesCoin | POW | Launch 19 NOV 23 EST on: November 18, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Logo is good but premine totally not, it will take ~3 months+ to catch it up.

But you always can feed dissatisfied to sharks, so it's not really a problem.  Wink
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 18, 2014, 03:47:39 PM
No doubt, it will be launched, maybe even before NY.

What does this mean?


Before New Year. 700 BTC are not collected, that means they will need more time to finish gaming platform, not that much time left.
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 18, 2014, 03:28:06 PM

Eternal bagholders Grin

I already see second market with sellers who charges x? for an empty wallets with bergstake.

You would have to trust the seller so I'm not sure how that would work.  Besides, even if Breakoutgaming turns out to be just a mediocre, poorly run gaming site, our Bergstake will be many times more valuable then the price we paid for it.

First things first I guess, let's get this project launched.

Via escrow of course. Thats why they will charge x? and not the price they initially paid for it.

No doubt, it will be launched, maybe even before NY.
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - rootEX™ announced - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS/PoI on: November 18, 2014, 03:21:35 PM
bitkey shit never happen, it is technically feasible to programming by the fucking scammer - bitsta programming skills 0%. root progress 0% for ever! - end time of this fucking story.



BITSTA winner ever ever! AND SAYS U FUCK U!

Bitsta is mortal and karma is a bitch. Sad, that he got spoiled by money and prefered stack of BTC to a clear conscience.
379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 18, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes.  The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons.  The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community on this forum.  Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever.  As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project.  None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders" Grin.

Eternal bagholders Grin

I already see second market with sellers who charges x? for an empty wallets with bergstake.
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 18, 2014, 02:02:06 PM

Jay's resume alone should warrant thousands of btc for this ICO. So many people missed an opportunity here.  If people did just a little bit of research they would have uncovered talent not seen in any other project on these forums.

Yep, BreakoutCoin is the only coin that has known team of celebrities behind it. I think the only reason ICO collected so small amount, this is due to the fact that it were not hosted on known exchange.
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