~snip~ harusnya kan semakin supply sedikit bisa membantu harga meningkat, tapi itu juga tentu tergantung dari progress projek tersebut sih.
Bukan hanya tergantung progress proyek Om, tapi juga tergantung minat investor atau orang2 yang ingin membeli. Supply dikit juga percuma kalo sepi peminat, ujung2nya didelisting dari market dan jadi dead coin/token. he bukankah progress proyek yang bagus akan menarik minat investor? kan semua investor juga pasti liat dari proyek dan progressnya tentu produknya juga bagaimana. kalau setidaknya progress atau perkembangannya bagus tentu mereka akan bertahan bahkan bisa listing di market besar untuk menaikan nilainya. |
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In 2020, the price of bitcoin may rise to a new peak. Then again a big fall may come. I have been in this market for 3 years and this is happening constantly. I'm making plans based on these facts. I sell when I make a profit. I get it again when it falls.
I am also hoping for that but let's not be complacent and let's also consider the worst thing and let's prepare ourselves for this when this happened, we all know that crypto is volatile, and we all know that the whales knows what normal traders/holders are thinking so they can manipulate it once they saw that there are people wanting to buy more Bitcoin. we really have to keep thinking about the bad things that happened, don't keep thinking about the best. therefore research becomes important here because in research we can find good or bad results. therefore ability becomes important, and hope is only the desire of all of us that will not necessarily happen You are right, many people think positively about high rises, but not dump deep. we will never know whether it will always be the same as before. at least we must anticipate if there is a dump, so we are not surprised, like buying when it comes down. as much as possible always take advantage when prices increase. |
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You sound like the superior over Bitcoin. You are like threatening to leave Bitcoin if halving will not give you the price that you want. Well, do not hope that it will pump high in the coming months. Halving is already known beforehand. And it cannot be enough to pump the price high. For me, I will keep hodling regardless of the price after halving.
It should be like that, we all expect halving so that it can make prices increase like halving before. so what would make the price of bitcoin go up so high if halving had no effect? because the supply and demand factors are very big influence on prices. but I will not be disappointed if indeed there is no significant movement. as long as bitcoin still has a high value, I will stay focused on quantity. |
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Berarti untuk menjaga kestabilan harga, apakah tim harus ikut campur tangan didalam market ?? Jika hal ini yang dilakukan, maka tim developer sudah melakukan proses manipulasi market dan tentunya kondisi ini tidak bagus buat market itu sendiri.
Ane rasa ini masuk wilayah abu-abu om. Buyback juga bisa dibilang manipulasi market, token burn juga bisa dibilang manipulasi. Pemanfaatan market maker untuk menjaga agar spread tidak besar juga bisa dibilang manipulasi. Kalau dilihat dari kasusnya Binance yang ngepump habis-habisan di awal sih kayaknya ga ada pihak yang merasa dirugikan, kecuali yang belinya telat. kalau ga ikut campur tangan ya paling harganya bakalan turun terus, banyak contohnya juga kan. klo event buyback emang seperti manipulasi, toh misalkan di buy sama dia terus pas naik pasti kan dijual lagi sama dia. sedangkan kalau burn token setidaknya itu bagus untuk faktor supply dan demand, harusnya kan semakin supply sedikit bisa membantu harga meningkat, tapi itu juga tentu tergantung dari progress projek tersebut sih. |
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maksud nya sukses dalam arti apa om ? dalam arti penjualan IEO ,ICO atau di market kalau dari IEO atau ICO banyak juga proyek lokal bisa sukses malah mancapai hardcap tapi kalau dari segi coin masuk ke market memang banyak koin lokal harga terus anjlok dan susah untuk naik akan tetapi banyak juga coin luar seperti itu , hanya ada beberapa coin luar dan bisa di hitung mampu up berkali lipat dan bertahan hingga sekarang
memang rata2 dalam penjualan bisa sukses karena sebagian besar itu kemakan FUD koin lokal karena ada kata2 dukung karya anak bangsa seperti kata agan ryzaadit, selain itu dikatakan sukses, mereka juga bagus dalam menjalan progres sesuai roadmap, bisa berkembang, menciptakan suatu produk yang benar benar bermanfaat sehingga bisa menjaga kualitas nilai dari projek tersebut. kalau secara statistik faktanya memang tidak ada koin lokal yang bagus atau sukses gan, kebanyakan dari koin lokal akhirnya scam atau harganya ancur, seperti token TEN pemilik market terbesar di indonesia tapi bisa lihat sendiri gimana kondisinya skrg dan itu tidak menjamin projek yang bagus. kalau saya sih tentu udah ga minat koin lokal karena memang saya juga korban beberapa koin lokal  koin luar memang banyak yang scam, tapi setidaknya banyak juga yang sukses. kalau Ten sukses gan pada penjualan yang meraih hardcap dan bukan scam. Soal harga turun tidak bisa di kategori scam. sesuai fakta banyak yang nyangkut di coin ten karena mereka tidak memiliki tehnik dalam berdagang karena masuk ketika harga ten sudah terlalu tinggi. coba liat lagi gan, disana ada kata "atau" harganya ancur dan saya tidak mengatakan TEN scam, karena TEN itu cuma harganya yang turun. saya mengatakan scam itu pada projek lokal lainnya, kalau agan tau sebagian projek lokal cek aja gimana nasibnya sekarang. |
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saya pribadi tidak pernah mempertimbang kan coin lokal atau coin luar sebagai investasi terbaik, semua terlihat bagaimana cara devloper menjalan kan proyek itu dengan seriuz , tapi menurut saya bukan hanya coin lokal saja hilang secara perlahan ketika ICO atau IEO selesai, coin luar pun juga seperti itu
jadi kita tidak bisa mengambil kesimpulan coin lokal sebagai kesalahan investasi , coin lokal dan coin luar terlihat sama saja sekarang .
kalau secara statistik faktanya memang tidak ada koin lokal yang bagus atau sukses gan, kebanyakan dari koin lokal akhirnya scam atau harganya ancur, seperti token TEN pemilik market terbesar di indonesia tapi bisa lihat sendiri gimana kondisinya skrg dan itu tidak menjamin projek yang bagus. kalau saya sih tentu udah ga minat koin lokal karena memang saya juga korban beberapa koin lokal koin luar memang banyak yang scam, tapi setidaknya banyak juga yang sukses. |
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Good Morning! Bitcoiners. Please sell the BTC now ASAP. The price of bitcoin will fall down more and more. It will be hard to defend $7000. I think now is good time to get your original money from cryptocurrency. Regards  in terms of selling, I think depends on our goals in the beginning. if for the long term why should sell now, under 10k bitcoin prices still low imo. because I'm sure next year when many big events the price of bitcoin will go above 10k. although your prediction is correct and it had dropped to 6500 but now the price of bitcoin is rising again above 7100, so don't panic, if it goes down why not buy again? |
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I mean the halving is here.
Guys,what do you think?
You can see halving trips before, bitcoin doesn't go up in the year that halving happened at that time but it will happen the next year in 2021. But I only look at history, but of course, I hope it can go faster in 2020. |
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jadi walaupun projek tersebut masih berada di jalurnya sesuai visi dan roadmap, tapi dari segi harga mereka tidak peduli, maksudnya harganya malah semakin murah bahkan turun 90% ya seperti contoh TS ini, apakah itu ada yang salah dengan projeknya? seharusnya kan sebuah projek yang bagus progresnya untuk membuat nilainnya bagus juga.
Seharusnya klo progress dari projectnya masih berjalan sebagaimana mestinya, saya rasa pihak developer juga memperhatikan perkembangan harga dari token mereka. Contoh gampangnya dari beberapa target yang telah dituangkan dalam roadmap tentunya ada beberapa hal yang mungkin bisa mengangkat value token, dari sini saja kita bisa melihat usaha yg dilakukan oleh pihak developer guna mendongkrak harga. Selain itu kualitas bagus yang dimiliki oleh suatu project bukanlah jaminan utama jika harga dari tokennya juga akan bagus juga, karena yang namanya market tentu saja sangat dipengaruhi oleh besarnya demand dan supply yang ada, terlebih jika ada oknum-oknum tertentu yang ikut campur tangan maka market dengan tingkat likuiditas dan volume rendah akan berpotensi untuk dimanipulasi. Tetapi jika suatu project memiliki hasil yang bagus, setidaknya poin positif tersebut bakal menjadi potensi besar untuk menarik banyak investor-investor baru sehingga jumlah demand akan terus bertambah dan mampu mendongkrak harga. saya setuju sih, walaupun projek udah berjalan sesuai visi dan roadmap, tapi kalau harga malah makin turun kayanya memang ada banyak kecurangan atau manipulasi, kita tidak akan pernah tau permainan dari mereka, yang jelas mereka lebih memikirkan keuntungan saja menurut saya, dan masa bodo dengan harga yang penting progress nya terlihat sesuai roadmap. karena kita tahu investasi di crypto sangat banyak faktor yang mempengaruhi, tapi yang paling merusak tentu kecurangan atau manipulasi. ya bisa kita lihat contoh pada beberapa projek besar diluar sana, yang akhir2 ini udah naik tinggi bgt eh di dump besar2an juga. |
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dia udah hold lebih dari 1 tahun itu memang terbilang inventasi jangka panjang. tapi pergerakan harganya semakin parah dari 28k sampai saat ini 400.
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Seharusnya apapun model investasinya jika disertai dengan penerapan manajemen resiko yang bagus dapat meminimalisir potensi loss dalam jumlah besar. Dan tentunya calon-calon investor juga harus sadar bahwa yang namanya investasi tidaklah selalu berakhir dengan hasil yang manis, terlebih untuk investasi dengan jenis "High-Risk High-Return". Jika pada akhirnya ada investor yang menyalahkan Projectnya saya rasa hal tersebut wajar untuk dilakukan, terutama jika memang project yg bersangkutan terbukti melakukan scam atau tim developer melepas project tersebut. Tetapi jika project yang bersangkutan masih berjalan pada jalurnya (sesuai visi dan roadmap) dan masih menunjukkan progress yang positif, saya rasa jika ada investor yg menderita loss maka yg perlu dibenahi adalah pola beserta stratregi investasi dari investor tersebut dan bukannya malah menyalahkan projectnya. Nah ini dia ane setuju banget om,harus siap mempelajari keadaannya apapun yang terjadi. Tapi ane juga gak ngelak sih,kadang memang langsung kehilangan kesadaran,seperti udah gak bisa mengontrol diri setelah mengalami kerugian, jadi ya loss kontrol semua gitu deh om . jadi walaupun projek tersebut masih berada di jalurnya sesuai visi dan roadmap, tapi dari segi harga mereka tidak peduli, maksudnya harganya malah semakin murah bahkan turun 90% ya seperti contoh TS ini, apakah itu ada yang salah dengan projeknya? seharusnya kan sebuah projek yang bagus progresnya untuk membuat nilainnya bagus juga. |
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If I receive a tip i'll most likely gamble it because there's no specific amount mentioned. I could also split the amount, withdraw half of it then gamble what's left if the minimum withdrawal is low enough for me to move half out. No one will willingly give a tip to random people, this what if statement is a very impossible thing to happen.
I disagree that these kind of scenarios are impossible you either don't spend much time lurking or gambling in online casinos. A lot of popular casinos have an option to give out tips or something similar like rain on their chat box. There's always people who would suddenly send tips but it doesn't happen quite often. rain in the chat box often happens on the dice gambling sites some of which I know of like 999dice and primedice, but for now, I don't know whether it still exists or is rare. precisely such a thing happens a lot on online gambling sites, I am one who often expects it, not much only get around 0.001, and that I use to bet. unless they give a large enough I will withdraw it. |
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on 18/12/2019, BTC found strong support around the $6500 area with strong seller rejection, now price has rally to $7100 with resistance around $7,300 to $7,600, where you think it's heading next? Huh Huh
maybe prices will always stable in the range of 6500-7500 until the end of the year, especially before Christmas there may be a lot of needs so that the sell off occurs and make it back to 6500, or can even touch 6000? because I know that every Christmas there will be no upward movement. |
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We don't have any strong fuds that can cause this fud and provably this is the reason on why we experience the sudden dump since in past year the ICO's has been hunted by many scammers and maybe they execute there sales this days that's why it affect the market to go crash but as you said for sure there will be a good thing happen since. We should remember that there is halving which could bring the glory days back and for sure whales will catch those cheap BTC for now to prepare on halving day. I have read from a local media that in 2018-2019 there were so many hacking on crypto exchange, and in 2018 it was the highest record, so it is no wonder why after it reached ATH a large dump happened, even in 2019 it was still difficult to recover. other than that maybe the price of bitcoin will not be pumped on a large scale before halving occurs and so far they are racing to get a low price. |
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No doubt about the price as of today is lower because of the holiday season. however, if you plan to buy it just to sell it sooner, this is not a good time to buy. the price might get even lower than this as we closing to the end of the month. Anyway, If you plan to buy and will sell it after the Bitcoin halving, it's not a bad idea if you want to buy today cause you might not see as low as this price again.
buy every dip might be good enough because we can't determine what price will move lower. even when it reaches 6000 it's still good to buy, right? but honestly, I expect to fall below 5000 if I want to buy in large quantities Bitcoin will drop slowly in end of the year, so it will raise next year and all are buying this dump. Nowadays everyone know the future hype so all are concentrate the Bitcoin, But many huge volume investors are move to stable coins so it is reflect the current market. I never think it will reach 5k USD on further days. that might happen, and it seems that this is what makes bitcoin prices fall Chainalysis Report on PlusToken ‘Scammers’ Blamed for Monday’s Crypto Selloff That's a very large amount that could make bitcoin fall lower, but of course there will be lots of whales catch at a lower price for hype events next year. |
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not a strange thing to heard it, if in the company can work because of the people who are in it or behind it. for that millennial is demanded to open their own business as creatively as possible.. whereas opening a business certainly requires capital. this is happening in the current era. without the support of the government but is demanded to make works and even open up jobs..
its true, its so difficult to find a job even for a scholar even though sometimes they still have trouble getting a job. if we are not creative we will be hard to compete. I am lucky to be in the crypto world, so I have the capital to open a business and not work for others. nowadays sometimes making money on the internet is better than you working with others, if we are creative there are many ways to earn money on the internet because in this millennial era most people will surf the internet for anything. |
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Hello,
I had this question in mind, since many of my trades with an adjusted stop loss got triggered, but then the market goes in the direction I wanted, but since it got triggered basically im out. I know this is due to big fishes messing around.
What do you guys think, is stop loss something or, or not so good?
the fact that I experienced is that sometimes it can be a lifesaver, but on the other hand, also sometimes it becomes evil because of panic so then cut loss. but I still use cut loss in my trading, because I was quite afraid, my experience lost more than 80%, so now I place a cut loss if it drops below 10%. |
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Kekhawatiran saya kondisi tersebut bisa menciptakan FUD yang tentunya dapat membuat harga Bitcoin semakin jatuh, tetapi sebagai salah satu pelaku pasar kita juga tidak bisa mengabaikan faktor-faktor fundamental seperti ini.
berarti ada kemiripan dengan sejarah halving sebelumnya ya. memang sebelum halving harga akan di buat jatuh, terus nanti setelah halving atau di tahun berikutnya harga akan melonjak. saya sih liat di thread ini ada mirip2nya https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043315.0 dan memang ada beberapa kasus hack juga kan belakangan ini. |
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No doubt about the price as of today is lower because of the holiday season. however, if you plan to buy it just to sell it sooner, this is not a good time to buy. the price might get even lower than this as we closing to the end of the month. Anyway, If you plan to buy and will sell it after the Bitcoin halving, it's not a bad idea if you want to buy today cause you might not see as low as this price again.
buy every dip might be good enough because we can't determine what price will move lower. even when it reaches 6000 it's still good to buy, right? but honestly, I expect to fall below 5000 if I want to buy in large quantities |
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Before investing in a coin, we should know clearly the background of the coin, especially for new coins.. it would be nice if discussing first with other crypto-enthusiasts, usually they will give us some advice. But I personally prefer investing in popular coins like bitcoin and ethereum compared to new coins.
actually it's good enough to take advantage of new coins, like IEO. You can invest in the beginning, usually, the price is cheaper and when start trading, the price is usually pumping 2x, but it all depends on the market. at least you chose a new IEO in binance. the rest is better to choose investments in popular coins or in the top 10 coinmarketcaps. |
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